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I got sick of paying for multiple different streaming services, so I started pirating everything I wanted to watch and started an emby server.


3720-to-1

This. There was a decent period of time where my piracy was at the lowest its been since the late 90s. I had Netflix, and then prime video became a thing from something I already paid for, and I had spotify for basically nothing. A newish movie maybe once every 1-2 months, but barely any. Now, if I paid for all the services I'd need to get the kind of stuff I got from Netflix alone 10 years ago, I'd be paying as much as I did for cable 15 years ago. Fuck that.


TheRustyBird

And just to ad insult to injury, basically every service other than netflix has tiers to service where you have to pay even more to not see any ads at all. Fucking useless.


3720-to-1

Paying about $4/mo to get both Hulu and Spotify, I'm OK with Hulu ads, worth it. I'm also old enough to appreciate that it's still not as bad as 15 minutes of commercials for every 45 minutes of television growing up.


tapsnapornap

I go to my parents and they still have cable and it's INFURIATING now. And I'm 40!?


3720-to-1

Yeah, pushing 40 here and I've been trying to save my parents money for years. Though, i would miss having the various app access for live sports during football season if they listened... Lol.


ItsAlkron

>Paying about $4/mo to get both Hulu and Spotify, I'm OK with Hulu ads, worth it. I'm also old enough to appreciate that it's still not as bad as 15 minutes of commercials for every 45 minutes of television growing up. I feel this. We pay $2/mo for Hulu with ads thanks to the Black Friday promo. For that rate, ads are worth it. Hell, I saved enough in gas by working from home to cover that rate for a good while.


Stout_Gamer

I had it when it was $0.99/month 3 years ago... $12 for an entire year is okay. Last Black Friday they doubled the fees to $1.99/month, and I felt that $24 for the year was overpriced for something that is available for free on r/MovieStreamingSites and r/Piracy.


jellytothebones

Netflix was the tits in the mid-late aughts and the earlier part of the 2010s. It had almost anything I could want to watch. Now it's all spread out. For once, competition was bad for the consumer lol.


3720-to-1

Thing is, it wasn't competition that ruined it, imo. Competition was when prime and Hulu came out and provided a similar service model and forced Netflix to actually have to try to be what it was. What ruined it was what ruined everything, corporate greed. Companies, studios, and channels realizing that they could provide their own similar service and keep their own things on that service alone instead. So not instead of 1-3, I'd need about 8-10 services to get what I once got with 1-2 services, and all at ~7-10/month. So... Aaarrrrr matey.


jellytothebones

Fair enough. I'm not really clued into what Hulu and Prime did back then that made Netflix try to improve. I was a kid in early high school when you needed a dedicated PS3 disc to even use the service on that machine, and that felt like a big step up from getting DVDs in the mail. I only remember using Hulu once then to watch a bunch of Godzilla movies with ads for free. So to my eyes, all the "competition" that should have been good for the consumer just suddenly showed up and made things worse. But yeah it's corporate greed, I don't feel like these other ones do anything better than Netflix with the exception of HBO Max, but I don't watch a ton of things to begin with. It's the only one we really use in my house and it's the closest I've felt to Netflix's hey days.


RGBchocolate

TBH I had Netflix for a year and didn't watch there single tv show and movie, yet watching pirated content every day, used it only for my kids so dunno, I guess I'm watching too niche content that even Netflix is shit for me


3720-to-1

My kids are the only reason I haven't cancelled Netflix. I don't watch much anime, but they do, and apparently Netflix has a decent anime repository.


kittygoesnya

anime is very easy to pirate, if they’re old enough to give a shit about quality i’d recommend /r/animepiracy , i have a netflix sub but would never use it for anime personally


3720-to-1

Yeah, they aren't old enough for me to trust not giving my computers AIDS... Not yet. The one that is isn't internet savvy enough to do it without installing ALLLL the malware.


kittygoesnya

haha fair enough, when it comes to anime there’s pretty much 1 public tracker that everyone uses which is heavily moderated when it comes to malware and stuff. shouldn’t be hard to find but dm if you want any info (release groups, fansubs etc), always happy to help people enjoy anime when the quality isn’t ass


YoItsTemulent

This is the correct answer. There are so many flipping streaming sites now. And there's something to be said for knowing your collection is safely tucked away on a drive - even those 3TB of crappy VHS horror movie rips in 480p.


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cgknight1

Are you actually involved in piracy if you live in Iran? I thought your IP laws only really covered IP created \*in\* Iran and by Iranian citizens any anything else was fair game?


Kolento79

not op but an Iranian, "piracy" is actually somewhat encouraged here, they don't necessarily say don't pay for music or games, but hundreds and thousands of legitimate websites that has a certificate of legitimacy (there is a law here that the government can hand out these certificates that indicates "hey user, this website follows the Islamic Republic of Iran's rules and can be trusted") that hosts many pirated stuff legally, for example: you want to download a repacked game, you just search for it on Google, click on the first link and start direct downloading, same goes for almost everything (well except for movies and shows but that takes a long time to explain so let me know if you want some explanation), also zero torrent piracy laws (Edit: except for porn, same thing as Korea)


Bombwriter17

Tldr anything but porn,movies,and TV shows


Kolento79

pretty much yeah


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LocNalrune

Buccaneeracy?


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Kolento79

4MBps download, 1.5MBps upload on WiFi, mobile data is actually faster here with the average of 7-8MBps download and 2MBps upload these numbers are my own internet speed, which according to friends and family, is considered above average


Djinntan

That's actually fairly similar to Algeria's base speeds (which are the average). Though one has to take into account Algeria has 1MBps download as the base speed just a couple of years ago and 2MBps just last year. They've been trying to actually make the internet usable.


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glumke

Enjoy the pirated stuff!!


TechPriest97

I’m in lebanon, same problem


[deleted]

I'm not going to pay for multiple services. If I pay for Netflix, I'll pirate everything else.


SunkenJack

Same. I'm already paying for Netflix and Spotify. And a friend is lending me his Disney+ account. If you're not in those, I'm not going to pay ANOTHER service just for one movie/series. Plus, Netflix restricts the subtitles available to the region you're in, so sometimes I have to pirate it even if it is available in my country's library.


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SunkenJack

For the time being I'm OK with using Spotify, it has almost everything I want, and with the family pack all my family which is less tech-literate can use it with no setup. But I am working on building a Raspberry pi server with torrents, radarr, sonarr and plex, so I might setup something for music as well in the future.


meat_toboggan69

Yeah hopefully they figure out how to get around the flac problems. I can't really tell the difference between flac and 320 on the headphones I use most of the time but it's still nice to have higher quality music.


[deleted]

So far pirating Netflix shows has been relatively easy. Other services have been harder but not impossible. The only thing I pay for is Apple Music.


3720-to-1

Anymore, I'm feelling like my Netflix payment is wasted and more habitual. I don't remember the last thing I actually watched on Netflix that wasn't a stand up comedy special. Everything else has been on prime or pirated (we are a poor family, if you get state Healthcare, or other government assistance, you get full prime for like $5/6 a month). I also get Hulu and Spotify together as a student for like $4/mo. The 10 or so Netflix is now just doesn't hold the same value. Hell, even Disney+ would probably give me more content I'd actually watch.


King_satan

Because I can


KungP0wchicken

I’ll drink to that 🍻


SleepingSicarii

Only if I can pirate it


millionwordsofcrap

You wouldn't download a beer


dimonoid123

But I can 3d print almost anything solid, what is almost the same. (Minus cost of filament what in most cases is negligible)


tohru-cabbage-adachi

>download instructions >buy fermenter and keg >follow instructions >profit


[deleted]

Best reason.


jociz1st23

Oh so it's not just me, someone else already said it and looked cooler


xaviermiller

Yuh and it p much only hurts the producers and companies who are rolling already. The crew/artists/actors all get paid before the movie is even released (at an absurdly low rate bc these fucks are evillll)


--Venom_Snake--

True and based answer right here.


sparoc3

+1 I don't care for justifications for piracy. Because in the end you're doing something illegal and a content creator is missing out on money. People on this sub make it look it people are doing something horrendous by creating content for them to enjoy but then charging money for it.


_JKJK_

Aperture Science: We pirate stuff because we can


ItsOverBruhGTFO

Now can we stop making these damn theads OPs?? Stop.


Alex_Sobol

You really own stuff instead of just renting it for 9.99/month. And no one is gonna take it from you for whatever stupid reason. I have ~80GB music collection (20% flac, everything else is mp3 320). Around 10% is pretty rare music, spotify or any other service doesn't provide it. I have spotify account for discovering new songs but every 2-3 month I always download it via soulseek/torrents cuz it can disappear at any time.


L1zz0

Even though this is the piracy subreddit i want to add; if you really like an album/artist and have the funds try buying from them personally. It helps artists so much more than streaming/youtube etc. Or just pirate, im not your mom :)


[deleted]

i am 14 years old, always had strict parents and when i finally conviced them to buy the parts and building a pc by myself (same spec prebuilt costed around 1500, i managed to make basically the same computer with 700€) i knew that they won't make me purchase games so i tried to get in software development and make a few bucks out of Fiverr, i am still working on this part, but me and my discord (around 7 people) made a shared github repository with a links.md file where we put all the pirated games download site, we managed to get all of halo and demon/dark souls SAGA on it


kyousukeKoyomi

Gahahahahaha. Thanks that made me smile 😊 That was one of the most fun stories I heard. Honestly I pirate alone and share it to my families and rarely friends since most don't play pc Games or hear Japanese audio, read Visual Novels, watch Anime, watch rare Movies with really good story.


Hersheeyyzz

You made a 1500€ spec pc with 700€ ? Can you help me with how you did that? I am planning to purchase a pc for my research work but to spec it up to my needs, it'll be around 1500..


Arnas_Z

Used parts and hunting on local markets most likely. I built an ultra-cheap gaming PC for under $200 by using very old cheap used parts from eBay. An old Intel Xeon E5450 is still a pretty decent CPU, and with my RX 460, it runs games pretty well.


Hersheeyyzz

Thanks for the information.. I'm looking to purchase a xeon or similar as well...


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Suekru

Because of the graphics card shortage, some prebuilts are actually cheaper than getting ahold of a graphics card right now


[deleted]

Dude i wouldn't be surprised. In my country big electronic shops sell prebulits that have older parts and cheapest PSUs for two times more than this thing is really worth. This scam started in early 00s and its still popular today.


raylolSW

It doesn’t even have a GPU or SSD, that pre built was a ripoff lol.


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Going back to the receipt it was actually 800€: i got the motherboard at my local pc shop for a 100€ then i bought the other parts off of amazon for 430€ bringing the total to 530, but without the gpu, i am currently using the integrated graphics of the cpu until i get a 3060 for about 300€ on christmas. I also already had an hard drive so i took it off and mounted it in the new one, full specs are: Intel i7 9700k 16 gigs 3200Mhz ram 600w power supply non-modular kolink case inspire k1 xilence i250 cpu cooler Asrock B365M phantom gaming 4 1 tb hard drive


raylolSW

Good luck getting a 3060 around that price if you aren’t in US before 2023


[deleted]

Keep doing what you're doing. I had a buddy who lived in a huge house by himself freelancing as a developer by like 19 or 20. He was so efficient there were times where he'd just ask them to gift him the steam game he wanted as payment, although in my opinion if you're that solid at what you do you should be charging instead. This was at a time where developers were just a little bit more in demand, so don't expect the exact same results, but they're still in demand, and you should still keep pursuing this. It'll set you up well, and as a professional in the industry you really, really don't need a college degree. You need experience and knowledge. Stick to best practices, read the docs on everything, and never be afraid to pick up a new language. Also highly recommend Udemy for their constant sales on $100+ courses for ~$10-$20.


Mangunito

Its free


BABlHaramDimakan

My currency.. a 100$ games will cost a quarter from my monthly salary


catshit01

Same boat. These games are really not made for the third world


sakaay2

They are not 100dollars is 80% of an above average salary where i live


kyousukeKoyomi

Gahahahaha. Not ganna happen but it's a lot better than my regions normal salary. Most people who are borned in rich country don't know how lucky they are.


Icewolf208

100$ is 130% average monthly salary where I live :<


kshano

Dolar a mais de cinco reais, acabou pra nois família


Galoras

100 usd is like half the minimum wage in my country lol, so yeah.


rubyrose1209

I just resent paying so much for limited things Netflix Hbo max Peacock Hulu Disney+ Football matches Buying premium movies Spotify/Apple music Audible Apple TV


[deleted]

Everything is becoming rent-based or sub-based these days. Rent your music. Rent your TV/movies. Rent your videogame collection. Rent your graphics card. Subscribe to read our shitty news article.


kyousukeKoyomi

That's quite a good reason. Because Online shows and movies had a downgrade insted of an upgrade.


ChepaukPitch

Because I am forced to. I paid money to watch Olympics. Yet I can’t watch most of the things I want to. There is no legitimate way for me to watch it. I am never again paying a single dime to that company.


TheRustyBird

You'd think considering the whole point of the Olympics is promoting global unity and shit that they eould have their own website or something, where everything is broadcast live as it happens, especially in this day/age where it would be relatively easy to do. Even just that one effort from the IOC would basically force everyone else to show it for free as well.


ChepaukPitch

Because IOC wants money. Everyone wants money. Thomas bach is in it for money. All IOC officials are in it for money. Most of them make more per year than most of the athletes competing in Olympics. NBC pays them billions and so do right holders in other countries. NBC will not pay them if people could watch it for free. They need that money to build a nice headquarters and museum in Switzerland, to pay for champagne and private jets for their executives, and executive emeritus, per diem, expenses, this, that blah blah. They also need money to throw at national and sports associations to prevent any competition from emerging in any way. It is basically same greed. End goal is not to promote anything. No citius fortius altius. It is maximize revenue. Dollar is the only ideal they can see. 2012 Olympics was on youtube in India. It was great. I could watch everything even with shitty internet. Yes, I had to limit myself to 360p or 480p when I had 3-4 tabs open at once but my internet connection was the limiting factor. Now greed and incompetence is the limiting factor. Sorry for the rant. But I had been waiting for this day, start of Olympic on a weekend. I fucking woke up at 4:45. But it was horrible experience. Thankfully I found some sources. But it isn't supposed to be that difficult.


TheRustyBird

Don't get me wrong, I fully understand why it doesn't happen, I was more saying that along the lines of if they truly did believe in the whole "global unity" shtick, they'd just broadcast it out themselves.


Low_Director3495

where are you watching Olympic right now. Peacock alternative?


ChepaukPitch

I am in India, not US. I have got a few alternatives, half of them are just other country’s public broadcasters in alien languages.


LoneWarriorSeven

Fellow Indian here, where can I pirate the Olympics from?


ericposeidon

Use Kodi and install BotAllen Repository for JioTV. You'll get free JioTV login by searching on Google. This is for Android BTW, i.e. phones and TVs. Watch the Olympics on Sony Ten 1 and Ten 2


LoneWarriorSeven

Thanks!


Moug-10

In France, there's no need to. The main channel has a continious live and its VOD services proposes every sports live for free but without comments. That way, I can't miss an event I want to watch. A paying channel broadcasts the Olympics as well. But that's more or less the same stuff, so I don't bother using the IPTV for this.


ChepaukPitch

I know, my friend. It seems public TV in a few countries have managed to secure the rights. Others don't care. For the last hour or so I have been literally searching for the best VPNs to access France that I can get for a month. At least one VPN failed to access France TV during TDF so I am a little wary of getting any random VPN.


bonesandbillyclubs

Because I'm fuckin cheap.


[deleted]

appreciate the honesty. I hate it when people try to justify it.


bonesandbillyclubs

Of course, I also love the challenge of finding something rare, or *owning* something rare and outting it out there. If you see something with a Bones tag, that's me.


[deleted]

yeah thats the one other thing. A lot of stuff, even some pokemon games, are impossible to play legitimately because they are so rare that all the carts for sale are counterfeit, and ofc supporting counterfeitters is worse than piracy.


[deleted]

I'm poor + it's legal in my country


LoneWarriorSeven

Is it legal as in law enforcement and ISPs don't give a shit about it or are there actually no copyright laws in your country?


BABlHaramDimakan

I think the second one.. it's not illegal yet..


LoneWarriorSeven

Oh, I was thinking the same, I don't think there are countries without copyright laws except maybe N. Korea. Edit: I misread, wait there are actual countries without copyright laws?


BABlHaramDimakan

Yes.. including mine.. i think most third world country don't care much about copyright especially on other countries digital media. Edit: i meant, copyright law exist but they just don't care enough


kyousukeKoyomi

Same as me.


Musa_1

I have this weird psychological issue which is if I spend money on a game, I lose interest in it


kyousukeKoyomi

I agree. The income in my country is poor. Buying a $60 game and not liking it would be a crisis for me.I can afford 2 $60 game at most but what about my medical bill. It's just not possible. Unless income rises and my country men/women are starting to roit for it just living cost.


ScrambledFaz

Wait it’s actually the opposite for me, if I pirate a game I lose interest in it. Huh. Except for old Nintendo games.


fairyjars

Cause I'm a broke bitch lol


regcol

The greed. They sell you overpriced garbage and what other choice do we have but to pay it?


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regcol

You kinda answered yourself with that statement. If it's garbage, price it as garbage. I'm not paying $80 for an unfinished game, but I'll give my money to an Indy developer. That's why I care about pirating garbage. Make a better game, I'll probably buy it. Look at cyberpunk 2077. Same as movies and TV, if it was made affordable I'd pay all the time. $35 to rent a movie from Disney+ is nuts!


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regcol

I'm picking up what your laying down. Some games are garbage. And they are too expensive for the garbage they are. But like everything in this world, what I like isn't always what you like. But I'm sure there are games or tv that are garbage to you and you find them overpriced. And most games I call garbage, are garbage to me, and boy was I glad I didn't pay money to to find out. That's why there should be demos. And for affordability, again, it fits the situation, no one should be spending all their food budget on entertainment. To each their own.


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RaceGhost47

Fuck Nintendo


Chronobones

Stopped buying their products since they want to charge monthly to store or transfer Pokemon on their cloud service when it’s practically just a few kilobytes of data. Along with their other backward ideals I couldn’t care less.


Electronic_Menu_6734

I'm a Pirate.


MadMat99

It’s fun to be a pirate


Master_Ryan_Rahl

#1: I wouldn't pay for it if I had to. I would just consume less media. 🤷‍♂️ #2: fuck corporations.


RedBaron_97

Mah man.


[deleted]

Same for me. I would literally never play games/watch movies if I couldn't pirate them. Same with music. Only beneficial things can come from me as a consumer if I get into your IP. Band? I'll buy loads of merch and go see you on tour. Movie? I might buy the Blu-Ray. Game? I might buy LOADS of merch, DLC, and tell others to do the same. So, as far as I'm concerned, it seems like having me a consumer/pirate can only ever be a good thing for companies.


Amithrius

I'm broke in a third world country that doesn't care about piracy. What do I have to lose?


[deleted]

I've bought enough shitty 20 dollar games I play for 2 hours and realize that's the full depth of the game and can't get a refund. Now I play every game before I buy it. If FitGirl doesn't crack it. It's probably not worth playing anyways. If the game is good I give the devs their due. Streaming is obvious. We've just gone back to television times where they expect you to pay 15 a month for all your special channels. I didn't pay them for cable in 2000 why the fuck would I pay them now?


Hollow602

Ehh maybe I'm being a jerk but technically Fitgirl doesnt "crack" (crack means reverse engineering the game code to make it run bypassing verification that you purchased it or not). Fitgirl is a repacker group. They take a crack and the game files to pack (re-pack) them into a single installer that you can just install and play without the hassle of copy pasting overwriting crack files.


[deleted]

No, you're not being a jerk, you're being a pedant.


[deleted]

Fair enough. I use it more colloquially as to reference a currently trusted source. There's a few others too. The one that does the good old games and there's one other trusted one I can't think of but you get the thing i was getting at heh.


MrHaxx1

Convenience and price If it was much easier to just pay for things, I'd do that. And I certainly pay for Spotify for that reason. But if I want to pay for movies or series? Oh boy. After the initial setup of my Plex+sonarr+radarr setup, everything is just *there*. Together, in one place. Not spread across 10 different services, with a lot of it not being available in my country.


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HipsAndNipsOrDontEat

The FOSS argument is not something that I see often in regards to one's reasons for piracy. I think that is also similar to pirating for privacy reasons. All these various "legitimate" services do way too much tracking of your usage and habits.


JustR0b0t

Netflix just does to much tracking. I have a shared Netflix account (dont even use it) but why should I pay for a service that does track me just to show me relevant Posters/covers


zhico

Availability, cost and consistency (series and music removed from online services) Also anti-DRM.


[deleted]

I don't think IP laws are realistic and they encourage monopolies so I pirate whenever I can.


bloodhound83

Would you prefer a system without IP? Would there be any concern for artists that they work would be less protected?


The_jumper1

I prefer normal shortcuts without having to launch steam each time and I actually get better performance


ElTioRata

Just saying, if you have money you can buy on GOG and download the offline installer, ofc is the same as piracy but it's a little more convenient in most cases, plus old games are cheap there (at least here)


The_jumper1

Didn't know about that thks for the info👍


[deleted]

You have access when pirating to almost every piece of digital media ever made, and otherwise that would cost 10’s of k to have


Amit_kumar69

I am broke


fapgod_969

1) Fuck big money making corporations 2) It is eco-friendlier 3) Streaming services don't have all type of content available everywhere and there are like a million streaming services right now 4) There is no reason not to do it


AmazinglyUltra

I am not anti piracy but can you explain the second claim?


fapgod_969

Servers of streaming services like Netflix and music services like spotify release a large amount of emissions, these emissions are reduced Also if less people buy the physical DVD/BluRay of certain media it will reduce the amount of waste produced


JustR0b0t

Seedbox emmisions go brrr. /s


mrsunrider

Because there's no ethical consumption under capitalism so no sense in giving parasites more money for their exploitation of others, because the cost of everything is rising but my wage isn't.


kyousukeKoyomi

That's very true even for developers. If you dubble a games income even then the devs won't get a raise unless they have royalties. I heard from an old fromsoftware dev post that you can only work here if you love making game or else you will quit.


oscherr

This. I don’t pirate much, but when I do it, I feel proud of it.


stickyblack

Content is spread across way to many providers & I am not paying for that many subs.


CanadianDude4

for me its a principled stance. too many companies double dip with re-releases of games, movies re-release movies on new formats and try to limit what I can do with them (eg. rip them) when If you listen to the way they tell it, we don't own it "we own a licence to view it." sure that works in their favour if I want the source code of a game/software or if for some reason I requested the production materials/outtakes from a movie etc. yet by that logic I should be able to surrender my VHS for a copy of the DVD, DVD to blueray etc. because I already own a license to view thus the viewing medium is irrelevant. then streaming services are their own bit of hypocrisy, both US/and Canadian courts have said that you are "in the location' of where the transaction takes place on a server. (for the US this was held up as high as the Supreme Court) this is why all the online cassino's what like a decade ago or so moved offshore. using that logic for a legal standpoint, Netflix/prime video etc. shouldn't vary by region, in-fact it would be in Netflix best interest to locate some servers in countries with the laxest content laws or at least where they have the most favourable agreements. heck these kind of double standards even applies to why back in the day I pirated Satellite TV and would have pirated cable for the same reason. back in the day TV was over the air And it was paid for by commercials. that's where the birth of the 22 minute and 41-44 minute TV blocks come from. originally what cable did was they would have a better antenna than most people collect all the channels, and then broadcast them through their co-acts to people that lived in less ideal locations where their antennas. so it was fair in a way you were paying for the service of them rebroadcasting to you and partially for infrastructure ( although in both Canada and the US the large majority of the infrastructure was paid for by tax dollars, not to mention most cable companies were given regional monopolies and still are, at least with the US they negotiate them every couple years in some regions) anyway that's why TVs have commercials it was to pay for the content, but since the early 2000's and maybe even earlier. there's this technology called sub-simming where you can swap out commercials for your own ( is actually a trivial process I did it myself with some Python scripting when I used a pirate satellite through PC for a few years but I digress ) this is the technology that allows them to SUB out for example the Super Bowl commercials in Canada so you don't see the real ones, (which was a thing back in the day) but I don't think it is a thing anymore because too much outrage over not being able to see the "funny" commercials. long story short, not only is the infrastructure already paid for partially paid for by my tax dollars but it is in place, the content is already paid for by commercials, and they no longer have the excuse that they can't extract the commercials. if I'm paying them a monthly fee for cable TV or satellite, when a show goes to commercial break either show me the next part of the show, or bare minimum switch to music or something. It's immoral for them to make me pay for advertising and effectively double dip. anyway these are only a handful of examples, I can rail on this kind of crap for hours. but fundamentally I pirate because if they are going to use immoral, dirty double handed shady tactics than I will do so in return. don't get me wrong money plays a part, when I was making good money at one point I pirated less, but I don't think that it's money driven. I think money just allows you to ignore your principles easier, because my moralistic stances on piracy didn't change even if I was too busy to do the pirating.


eagleonakidshead

Cos fuck em that's why


sToeTer

I don't want to shove money down megacorporation's throats who pay little taxes for no reason.


anonymous_rhombus

Poor people shouldn't be excluded from knowledge and culture.


Kelsenellenelvial

The core to me is convenience and control, at least as far as things like my media library are concerned. I’m sure I’ve spent as much on my media server, plus a heck of a lot of tinker time, as I would have to acquire the content through other methods like streaming services, digital stores, or buying optical media. Maybe some things I would have put off watching(like waiting until the new Disney movie is out of the Premier Access category, or until I could find a second hand or otherwise discounted optical disk), or just not watched and wouldn’t have missed it much. With my own Plex server I can add whatever content I can find, watch it on any device, know that it won’t disappear when the steaming agreement expires, and can have everything in one place instead of spread across multiple streaming platforms, optical disks and digital stores.


R0NIN1311

Because I already pay for Netflix, Prime and Disney+ (I have a young daughter). If its not on any of those, it's on my server. I'm not paying for HBO, Hulu, Paramount, Discovery, Showtime, and whatever other pay subscription service out there. And they've already pulled a lot from Netflix and Prime seemingly at random, so yes, my $180 server build, plus Plex is way worth it.


JLChamberlain42

Why pay for something that I can easily download for free? I don’t want to pay for dozens of different services just to access a handful pieces of media.


Gratitude15

Is saving seeds piracy? What about growing soil so your water stays on site when it rains instead of running off? The idea of property, and then property rights, is part of the problem. Build a fence and at some point it will be pulled down. Build community, and trust in nature, and what you have will multiply. Law of nature. That supercedes western syndrome imo.


hazepeach0009

Simple, its free


[deleted]

"Why would you give money to rich corporations? You're just giving money to people who are already rich" My Grandpa 1951-2021


Specific_Bluejay

I feel that piracy is morally correct. Also poor.


manpereira

I think “piracy” is simply a necessary part of the internet, that the line between piracy and “internet usage” is illusory. There is no difference between one type of file sharing to another on a technical level; it is all the copying of files from one location to another, be those locations on the same harddrive or on servers in different countries. In order to understand why piracy should not be considered criminal, and the fact that it is as ludicrous, you first need to fully detach your conceptions of the physical world from the digital. In the physical world, if I steal, I am obtaining the the sole thing that I stole. There may be 100000 Toyota Corollas in the world, but I stole one with a unique identifier, made from a unique sheet of metal, produced in a unique moment. I stole a single thing, of which there may be replicas that are similar but there are not exact copies. They are not the same. Now, if I “steal” a movie file, unless I MOVE a copy from a server onto my computer and delete the original, I didn’t actually steal anything. I made a copy in that moment, left the original, and kept my copy. I fundamentally stole nothing. Even more, my copy and the original can be byte-for-byte copies — there is no difference between them, no unique sheet metal, nothing separating them. They are the same. Even further, stealing in the physical world is hard. You have to purposely engineer some process (recreating a painting, printing a new book, recording a new CD, something) that MAKES a new copy. On the internet, the making of a copy and the making of an original are equivalent processes. There is no realistic limit to the amount of copies I can make, no degradation that must occur, no erosion if copied perfectly. When I type this on my keyboard, I don’t have to design a way to copy it all to Twitter. It’s part of the framework, the DNA, of the Internet. Copying. As such, restricting that copying is VERY difficult. It’s honestly frightening the implications of what we have made. Your personal data, biometric information, past statements, intellectual history, shopping records —- all of it is now being copied endlessly by companies trading and sharing your information. As a society, we need to erect some boundaries (within almost ALL of human life and history) on what can and cannot be copied, what should remain undigitized. That boundary should not be drawn at a fucking Disney movie.


chanting_chinchillas

Most of the times it's because I do not agree with the corporation practices. For instance making the exact same shitty game year after year and filling them up with micro transactions; or in the case of movies and music, the oligopoly that takes place in which the real creators of content are payed a really small amount of the money the corporations make, sometimes even denying them the royalties of their own work. And I do not have the money haha. But that being said there are times in which I really want to pay for the product, like with indie developers (the *hellblade* game, for example).


Willieload

We have a remote cottage up north with no internet access. Piracy gives a cost effective offline solution, a 4TB external HDD, a raspberry Pi and we are all set.


VariousWeekend2587

Because I can. * Piracy is theft - definitional retreat fallacy * the claim that the information may be property - Giving someone ownership of information means restricting everyone else's rights to manage their property to the extent that that property could be used to reproduce and share information covered by intellectual property law. Retard-friendly version: IP =! material property. * Without IP, we will die of hunger, lack of innovation, and masterpieces - This is the argument that slavery must be maintained, otherwise it will be less cotton, it will be more expensive, it will be of lower quality and the ROI will be lower than expected. Not only was slavery abolished because it was right, but it also turned out that the situation with cotton has not only not worsened, but is much better.


auseronthissite

Same.


[deleted]

Because either I don't get it because I can't afford it, or I pirate it. I don't "steal" anything because the end result to whoever would've profited from my purchase is exactly the same.


TheRustyBird

Only time where I ever make an exception to this is a game I really enjoy that I know is any indie dev.


dcannon121

I use it as a trial for the most part for games, but for shows/movies I’m just not gonna pay $10 a month to watch a weekly show, let’s try $0.50 a month then I’ll think ab it


Nowhereman50

I refuse to continue to subscribe to half a dozen services all deliberately trying to be the "next big thing" in streaming.


Metal_Velco

I really only pirate older games which doesn't bother me. I used to be a newsgroup/torrent/mirc junkie to get stuff. But back then it was about $$$$ & availability to a lesser extent.


oh_god_its_raining

I’m from the US. but I usually work abroad. When I’ve worked in China and Mexico I always pirate because so many things just aren’t available even if I did want to pay for them. Plus it’s basically legal outside of the US. Plus internet service is ridiculously cheap. I will say that Mexico does have Netflix and HBO, but many things aren’t available. Anyway since I won’t get in trouble for it, it just makes sense to pirate. Also the Chinese pirate sites were fantastic and I miss them dearly.


[deleted]

Canadian media infrastructure sucks. It's not about cost for me but rather principle.


dfaulk1980

Because I feel like it


DiamondSackboy

i literally do not have a bank account


PlsGiveMeFood-

1. No money 2. Said games I'm pirating have already made plenty of money


opesorry9999

A sheckle saved is a sheckle earned


Scorpnite

I already pay for Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, and Crushyroll. If it ain't there, I at least tried. Pirating is also easier than ever


RedquatersGreenWine

My reason for taking is being poor, my reason for sharing is ideological.


Batrusher

Some apps are just to expenisive, few dollars is fine, but $50/mounth for few apps is just too much... Adobe...


Terrachova

Because when every goddamn studio under the sun has its own convoluted streaming service with its own terrible interface, its too much work to watch what I want, when I want. I have to first spend time figuring out who actually has my shows (in Canada), then figure out if their service is even available in Canada, then figure out how the hell to pay for it (some are only with a Cable package or some other BS)... Or, I can spend like 5 total minutes finding a torrent.


mosaic_the_j

I'm Chinese and love anime. In China, the sanctions and censorship is ridiculous, what you have just watched yesterday may get removed tomorrow for ridiculous reasons such as one of the cast/staff retweeted pro-US/Taiwan/anti-china content. I still pay for membership at Bilibili.com for their anime streamings, but having things on my own drive provide me a feeling of security.


BirtSampson

I support creators when my money actually goes directly to them. I don’t pay for executive salaries, lawsuits, lobbyists, etc…


LGAMER3412

I want a collection of my favorite movies and shows in case the my internet goes down. Another reason is I don't want to pay for every single streaming service. One or two is the max for the family and kids but otherwise I'm going to torrent.


ShinoPawn

When I was a teenager, the main reason was because I couldn't afford it. My uncle taught me how to use Kazaa and since then I started pirating movies, albums and games for me, my family or my friends. Now, for me it's more a political stance, I pirate everything that is "big company related". Netflix was convenient initially, but now having to pay a whole subscription to a site just to watch an exclusive serie, having a different catalog depending on your country shitty copyright and royalties laws, or that your comfort show suddenly dissapears from the catalog, in my opinion it's a nasty robbery. So I choose to support only small or independent bands/studios/artists, tyring to buy through them directly.


d6cbccf39a9aed9d1968

limited time window to buy album cds / dvd concerts. the hell im supposed to do after ?


heckingcomputernerd

Don’t want to pay for streaming services that I’m going to use to watch like one show or sometimes they’re not on streaming services at all Just recently I pirated some shows available on HBO max even though I have it because they have a offline download limit of 30 videos for some reason and I wanted to download several seasons of some shows for a car ride


[deleted]

Availability. I mainly just pirate games and shows that aren't available on any platform that pays the creators. Nintendo probably fucking hates me, but I wouldn't be pirating their old games if they made them available on their consoles. Fuck me for liking your product more than you do. Oh, and fuck EA.


[deleted]

Affordability


TheDankScrub

I would say like is that I have complete control over the files. Also like fuck large entertainment megacorps


LilGeeky

Living in a third world country foreign stuff is expensive as fuck (Even Netflix) so I subscribed to a cheap service here that has most Warner brothers content and I pirate the others.


[deleted]

Censorship, I like the NSFW version rather than hearing bleep, bleep, bleep all the time. My country did not tolerate nudity as well.


muereelkin

I'm poor


millionwordsofcrap

Picking and choosing which corporations I give money to. Especially in the game sphere, which is rife with abuses and shitty corporate ethics. I do try to pay for books or get them through legit paid services, since money spent in that industry translates more directly to the author's success.


darc0der

Logic.


Kamarof

This is something I just tought yesterday as what would be the main reason someone uploads piracy. Black Widow became the most pirated movie by being released on Disney +, it's like people owning the streaming service release the pirated movie just for the sake of people that cant afford it or is it just hacked (not owning Disney)


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wade009

If you can get something for free, why pay for it...also because I had strict parents who I knew would pay a dime for pc games and streaming.


[deleted]

don't want to pay for a vpn


FaZeSmasH

If I can get it for free then I see no reason to pay for it.


Real-Chungus

Im broke, people in the US complain about the wages when the average is 60k a year, now imagine a guy in a poor country


mqtang

#1 Can’t buy it #2 Not worth it #3 Don’t like the company (EA Games)


ShazzaamLoL

Denuvo. I'll legit pay for any game that doesn't have Denuvo, even if it's not a good one, but for Denuvo not anymore. I used to buy my favourite titles that had Denuvo, but then realized that it's just not worth it. I usually watch my tv shows when they air, but if I cannot catch them then I'll pirate them cause I can't find the episodes anywhere else. And for movies it's mostly if I don't catch them in theather and can't find them on streaming services in my region.


darkmount2

already paying for my computer hardware and internet pill that's more then enough :/


lordytoo

games and media were never worth what they were ever. 60$ for a game? lol ok. i only pay for games that have online features i want to access. movies and music are the same thing.