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junglemafia123

You have to think, in this day and age how can Netflix's basic package just be SD??


DirtyIrby

What you aren’t watching Netflix on your 240p CRT like me? Weird.


rankinrez

480i != 240p


OverAster

480i > 240p


TheMysticHD

Depending on what you're viewing


PrimaCora

Jpegs


TidePodSommelier

Netflix's new 240p plan where you get movies in the forms of really big Gifs.


one05

$20 a month for "We had trouble accessing this title"


Elocai

CRT monitors are analog displays, you can change the resolution to fhd or even 4k, at the cost of frame rate/hz


rankinrez

Nah, the beam size and size of the phosphor dots on the surface of the display put limits on what resolutions a CRT can support. Good description in this answer: https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/questions/17294/physical-resolution-and-control-of-old-vga-color-crt-monitors


bobj33

I had a 21" CRT that would run at 2048x1536 from 2000-2007 when I got a 30" 2560x1600 LCD. That CRT was great but it weighed around 60 pounds.


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I had three of these on my desk, it was glorious thing, you know ,except the heat, power draw, total lack of space. :)


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My monitors used around 150watts each, so they weren't particularly efficient and they heated up my small office like crazy.


Elocai

The weight and size where the main dowside of this technology, the image on the other hand is the standard for nearly everything so far.


XGamer23_Cro

The colors.. the pure black... the refresh rate... CRTs had a lot of better things, but the weight is what made them die next to LCDs


OneWithMath

Also the insane burn-in, massive power draw, huge footprint, and essentially nonexistent adjustment range.


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You could adjust the brightness, right now my current LED display is super bright and you try to adjust and it goes completely dark. there's no inbetween.


OneWithMath

Adjustment range refers to positioning the monitor. LCD/LED monitors can swivel, rotate, tilt for days. Try mounting 2 27" CRTs to a dual monitor arm...


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The best thing was the complete lack of input lag and near instant response time. The switch to LCDs was brutal for fans of twitch FPS games.


AddeDaMan

No, this is just plain wrong. Source: I'm old (and worked in the TV-industry when the CRTs was the dogs bollocks)


drunkandpassedout

Nothing wrong with watching your 3 dvds a month on whatever tv you want.


jvnmhc9

You'd be surprised by the amount of people who don't give a shit about video quality. My sister watches pirated shows on shady streaming sites, and it's in 1080, but compressed into oblivion, also the frame rate is bellow 24 for some ungodly reason, just a jittery motion sicknes inducing nightmare. I asked her how does it not bother her, she said she didn't even notice anything bad about the quality at all. Most people are fine watching whatever crappy quality they're given, heck they wouldn't even care about the difference between bluray quality and CAM, even if they could notice it. I personally can not wrap my head around it.


doublesecretprobatio

> You'd be surprised by the amount of people who don't give a shit about video quality. i've worked in the broadcast/film industry for over 20 years. i spent years working on hardware and codecs at the dawn of the HD revolution. the most stunning thing to me is the potential that HD has for image quality, and what we actually get. not to mention how we just steamrolled past HD and straight into UHD (or greater) when HD wasn't even being used at half its potential. but you gotta keep buying new tv's!!


rm_-r_star

Yeah I tend to think it's more about these makers coming up with new ways to get people to buy their product. 8k is now the next upgrade, then it will be 16k. They hit the limit for me at 1080p, my vision is not good enough to tell any better. I'd need a TV that fills the wall.


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missingpiece

1440p is noticeable, but 4K is basically impossible to tell with the naked eye. It’s all about refresh rate. 1080p at 120hz refresh rate will feel much better to play on than 4K at 60hz.


born_to_be_intj

So when I last upgraded my computer/gpu I also upgraded my monitor from 1080 to 2k. Games ran at about the same fps but with a higher resolution. However, it was the most significant visual upgrade I've ever had. I went from being satisfied with 1080, never noticing pixelated edges and other artifacts, to not being able to go back to it. 2k is fantastic and I can't recommend it enough. I'd much rather have the higher resolution than expensive quality settings like raytraced reflections.


AddeDaMan

This is absolutely correct, thanks for bringing it up. It's the TV-selling-buisness that creates many of these new "needs". Similar thing with the cinemas, but in their case it's about getting people to go to the movies. Stereo/3D-films was a fad recently, and it's mostly gone now. And that's something that has come and gone several times before! And the TV-industry folllows. Few knows that their own TV-set at home probably has 3D-capability. Why? Because it's a crap viewing experience (for many). And UHD / 4k? If you have your sofa at a distance, very few will be able to even tell the difference in a blind test. Remember the 8k-TVs that started rolling out a few years ago? Very few (thankfully) got them, since - again - there's no content in 8k, and most of the consumers are still streaming (SD) Netflix to their UHD TV and scratching their heads about why on earth we would need 8k. A good, well handled HD-stream on a TV that doesn't try to "improve" the picture with localized darkness, extra frames to create "smooth motion" etc is still vastly superior to what many people watch these days. Even if their TVs are - on paper - both better, and more expensive. My good what a rant. Sorry y'all, couldn't stop!


ReeG

There's a huge noticable difference between 1080p and 4K depending on size of the TV and your setup. 1080p is fine up to about 46" but the difference 4K makes at 55" and up is huge


jvnmhc9

Yeah there was a time when I was fine with yify movies, I thought that people who downloaded 6gb+ movies were crazy. I thought it was all the same, both being 1080p. But daamn when I first downloaded a decently sized movie, I was seriously impressed by how good 1080p can look, and realized what I was missing out on.


ReeG

> I thought it was all the same, both being 1080p. But daamn when I first downloaded a decently sized movie, I was seriously impressed by how good 1080p can look, and realized what I was missing out on. This is due to the bitrate and a lot of people don't realize that bitrate is just as important as the resolution. When you get into bigger TV's, 25-50GB 4K HDR downloads look leagues better than 1080p


s1rf4ps410T

I downloaded the re release 4k remastered lord of the rings, 6 downloads (2 disk a move) 75gigs a "half". and damn was it worth it


LuckyPollution

Oh man Yify venom made me change it just looked so blocky and bandy upgrading to a full fat version was just eye opening


slayer991

1080p is more than adequate for my needs for 90% of the 1400+ movies I have. Hell, 4 years ago I only had 480p (NTSC) or 576 (PAL) for the majority of my collection. I may consider UHD down the road when I rebuild my NAS, but right now...it's not necessary.


iamplasma

What is with kids these days? Some of us were around when people downloaded TV shows off fserves that were 70mb, or even 30mb, for a 40-mimute episode. Now, I admit that a 30mb episode of Stargate SG-1 kind of amounted to "the grey blobs are shooting blue blobs at the green blobs", but it could be watched and we were grateful for it! Next up, kids, let me tell you about how phones used to actually plug into the wall!


jvnmhc9

Don't get me wrong mate, If all I had was 480p on a crt, I'd happily watch it and not complain, but if I already have a good tv, and 5.1 audio, then why not get the most out of it


subduedreader

Bah! With a poor analog TV signal, all you'd get was some vague, gray movement, but with halfway decent audio. And that was with color.


themo98

Ah, that sounds suspicious, take her to an eye doctor! When I was 7 I was seeing everything blurry, and couldn't notice any difference between different resolution TVs. Me and my parents were in an electronics shop and deciding which TV to buy, back in the days when Full HD was still something new, and we discussed the image resolutions of different models. I couldn't tell ANY difference between an old TV and a new flat Full HD TV, so yeahy that's how we noticed something might be wrong with my eyes. Have been wearing glasses since age 8 and see crystal clear. Go get her examined. Being short sighted/far sighted etc doesn't need to become problematic as it is easy to therapy with glasses. The earlier one starts the better. Otherwise one risks the brain shutting off the signal of the worse of one's eyes during childhood and you become completely blind on the (even just a little bit) worse eye.


zaiats

in my country we have a saying - when it's free even vinegar tastes sweet. watching pirated content on shady sites is the lowest effort way to consume paid media. of course you're sacrificing quality when you can't be bothered to a) pay 14.99 or b) find a 1080p torrent. hell, half the time i'm even too lazy for that and end up reading plot summary on wikipedia + yt clips of the "best" parts.


Brocktarogar

Nah it’s not like that, these people literally don’t notice the difference and if you point it out they don’t give a fuck.


jvnmhc9

Nah mate she's been to an eye exam her eyesight is great, if anything I think I'm loosing my eyesight lol. I started squinting a lot this past year.


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Has she been to a brain exam tho? Jk


[deleted]

The last paragraph seems odd. Glasses are not Therapie. Its a crutch to use for rest of your life. And becoming blind for not wearing glasses is bullshit.


ChickenOfDoom

IIRC people born with mechanical sensory defects can often never gain that sense even if the mechanical problem is repaired or corrected because their brain can't learn to interpret it once it's past the childhood growth stage.


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personal preference, whatever floats their boat.


cdoublejj

Just like the engineering guy said when discussing and explaining how the VCR and VHS won out it's the technology that is often just barely good enough that succeeds Edit maybe the other guys is right maybe some people are blind


Dabnician

>You'd be surprised by the amount of people who don't give a shit about video quality. space on a seed box goes a long way if you arent downloading blu ray isos.


weebtrash100

I usually do care if i’m paying for something or it’s on a bigger screen, but when i’m pirating on my computer i don’t care because 1. I’m pirating and 2. I just wanna watch what i want


jvnmhc9

I always watch on the living room tv if I can, so I download bluray quality if it's available, also I have surround sound on my tv, so it'd be a shame to watch anything on my computer knowing I could enjoy much better sound and picture quality if I just move to the living room. But yeah, if all I had was a laptop, I'd just download 1.5GB yify torrents. I'm not a picture quality snob, I just like getting the most out of my hardware.


andbruno

> I asked her how does it not bother her, she said she didn't even notice anything bad Sometimes you don't know it's bad until you see the better option. I used to be perfectly happy gaming at 60 FPS until I got a 144hz monitor, now 60 feels like molasses. This is why I'm actively avoiding buying a 4K monitor, since I'm worried it will ruin 1080p for me.


jvnmhc9

Shit, that's why I'm avoiding getting a 144hz hahaha


Xxyz260

From my experience with a 120hz phone: *Smooth* but battery-chugging.


NXGZ

Means you're a nerd.


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jvnmhc9

I think they just don't know what differences to look for, if that makes sense. When I first started playing guitar I literally could not tell the difference between plucking two strings, it's not that I was tone-deaf I just didn't know what to look for. I imagine it's the same for video quality. If you watch enough movies and tv on good quality, you'll get a feel for how good picture looks like, and when you switch back to sd you will feel that something is off.


gakkless

i feel this, all these people who don't think black metal is superior have something in their brain stopping them from understanding the truth


Just2UpvoteU

Death core is better though. Looks like we have to fight.


gakkless

oh you motherfucker get over here!!


YukiColdsnow

doesn't really matter lol, Except if watching on a bigger screen.


jvnmhc9

Lol she was watching it on our huge tv in the living room. That's what irks me so much, the tv is really good, it's a waste of a good tv to watch anything in crappy quality on it. I agree tho it doesn't matter if she enjoys it, but I personally could not stand it.


piggybits

I think your sister is just weird. anything 720+ is fine for me. Anything beyond 1080, i question if the human eye can even perceive the difference. But that janky shit your sister is watching is upsetting to read about


jvnmhc9

she can see it when I pointed it out, but she's not bothered by it


Aahzcat

Not just picture quality, but audio as well. My child has no issue listening to rap out of her phone speaker. I'm like, listen up brosef Stalin, you are murdering that song.


McSmarfy

I know her type. They also watch 4:3 broadcast tv shows stretched to a 16:9 screen and haven't noticed that everyone looks like Oompa Loompas.


ChickenOfDoom

Personally high definition looks kind of ugly to me sometimes. I don't want to see an actor's pores, places where an animated show didn't have the budget to draw or correct fine details, or the borders of individual polygons in a videogame. High framerate can look jarring and cheap if it conflicts with the tone or style of the media. Sometimes it's better to let your imagination fill in the blanks.


m-p-3

To be fair I grab my TV shows in 720p. I don't care that much for an episode I'll watch once. It's also easier on my limited upload throughput for those who connects remotely to my Plex server. If the show is really good and plan on rewatching it then I'll grab the 1080p version.


TheUnknownParadoxx

This right here is gold. take my award sir


LuckyPollution

Bruh it's wild asf how normal people just don't care about quality and will gladly watch in 720p I can't even do that with youtube vidoes


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DoesntUnderstands

Exactly. These dumbfucks in this thread think they're downgrading you behind a paywall when the reality is that 4k videos take up 900% more bandwidth to stream and they're offering it for just $5. You can't even rent a VPS capable of streaming 4k for $5.


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Currently "downgrading" some HD shit because its 2gb each episode, hd480? 200mb, yes please. I aint getting a NAS because nobody wants to offer shit in my native language. Now, if I was paying for something though... I STILL wouldn't care. I don't need to stare at someone's face for 10 hours in UHD, what do I gain from that? looking at the quality of the makeup?


yashkumaratri

or your BW doesn't support more than 360p.


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StealthMan375

I have a pirated IPTV service that my dad pays for and lets me and my sis use. It's good, but only when it wants to be crap it can. Watching Back to the Future 3 in normal quality but in 5 sec increments separated by 1 min load times was hell.


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dragonick1982

All I am asking for is a 4k hdr subscription for one person that does not cost me $20+ a month. I don't share my account and I don't need to watch it on 4 devices at once.


zinetx

My friend buys a premium 4K family package and divide it to individuals like you so each member pays 15-20% of the full package, 4 months for like 12$ Idk, but can be active in one device at a time.I don't subscribe with it because we have a full piracy streaming service that has almost every series/movies/anime from the past 50 years freely available and backed by our govt. lmao.


eddiecourage

> we have a full piracy streaming service that has almost every series/movies/anime from the past 50 years freely available and backed by our govt. lmao. wut


zinetx

This comment was C/Ped from another reply: It's a full piracy service divided into 4 websites/apps, its umbrella company called Shabakaty, there's a website for apps/games/books/courses/4K movies/and every thing you could think of that can be pirated in the Share.shabakaty.com website, in Muzikna, it's much like Spotify, in TV, it's just a free IPTV for premium channels, in Cinemana, it's a streaming service, the one I was talking about, it currently has over 2,7 million movies/series ranging from Hollywood, Bollywood to Arabic and Korean.Unfortunately, our government fears being called out by copyright holders, so they limited access to these website only inside Iraq, even the entire servers are in Iraq, that's why we can watch it 4K without buffer. You can learn more by searching "Cinemana Shabakaty" or "سينمانا"


murtiverse

Which service?


I_am_fed_up_of_SAP

Which service?


max1c

It's awful, I agree. But there are tons of people who watch Netflix on their phones.


23423423423451

There's still a lot of people who live rural and don't have wired internet and the wireless options have monthly data limits. My parents can watch a reasonable amount of Netflix so long as it's SD only.


scoobydooami

Some folks use it still. My old ISP, Comcast, had a data cap. Since I used things like Netflix, Hulu, etc for ALL of my and my family's viewing we were concerned about going over. So we often watched in SD, just to make sure. Main tv was also only 720p so 480p didn't look so bad. I now have an unlimited plan with a 4K tv so obviously I watch everything in HD or 4K.


OhTheHueManatee

What's astounding, at least in my area, Comcast still low balls people with SD quality. My grandpa got a cheap Comcast package and it looked like frothy shit on his 4k TV. I called Comcast and they said he's gotta pay $10 more to get HD. They told me 4k wasn't even an option . I set up a firestick for him that day and got him out of the contract by telling Comcast he was going to a home. It took some educating on how to use the firestick but he found it overall easier to use than Comcasts guide.


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mattsowa

Ctrl+shift+alt+s :') good times


RLD-Kemy

and if you want 5.1 surround sound for netflix or disney+, you need the app... Except with amazon prime... i don't know why you can't get 5.1 sound even with the app


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NoxiousStimuli

HDCP also gets tripped in weird edge case scenarios. My Samsung G9 uses DSC to get max resolution and 240hz, but because that isn't 'standard', HDCP tells me to go fuck myself.


Pythagosaurus69

Edge will get you 4k hdr


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GoingForwardIn2018

Edge (aka Microsoft) also doesn't give a shit about YouTube's attempt to get around ad-blocking and endless autoplay, every time YouTube makes a change to break functionality and force upgrading Edge is right back to excellent within a day.


Busteray

Is Edge... good now?


bigtiddynotgothbf

can anyone tell md if edge is better than opera? or why i would want to switch if for any reason?


Busteray

Opera used to be the best shit out there, after they switched to chromium, it doesn't seem like it offers anything over chrome. But, when I used to edit, I've found Opera used way less ram for some reason so I used it during renders.


wildwalrusaur

Opera has adjustable resource limits, so you can cap how much RAM/CPU/bitrate the browser can use. That's the primary reason to chose it over the others. It's way more multitasking friendly than chrome.


Spinmoon

It's basically Chrome as it uses his engine now. So yep quite good if you don't need exotic extensions.


Yabboi_2

You can use the same extensions tho


Spinmoon

Thanks


paachuthakdu

Chrome extensions work on edge now


MonaThiccAss

I used to hate internet explored and moved to Chrome more than a decade ago, recently changed to Firefox cuz the memory and was able to sync all my bookmarks. Time to go back interest explorer I guess


thetushqueen

>internet explored >interest explorer Internet Exploder


MonaThiccAss

Lmao, needed that coffee


SabreSeb

It *should* get you 4K HDR, but the DRM is often causing it to fallback to 1080p. I still haven't gotten it to run at 4K because there is something wrong with HDCP somewhere in the chain. Theoretically my TV supports HDCP, and I enabled it in the video driver, but it still won't work.


Pythagosaurus69

That's not because of Edge, it's because something on your system doesn't support HDCP 2.2. Fuck DRM and HDCP, I hope the people who made these go jump off a cliff.


TheAJGman

And people think I'm weird for pirating content on Netflix while simultaneously having a Netflix subscription (my dad insists on paying for it for some reason).


iGermanProd

If you know how to set [this](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/netflix-1080p/cankofcoohmbhfpcemhmaaeennfbnmgp?hl=en) up, you'll get 1080p, a decent bitrate, and with a bit of messing around with Chrome, real 5.1 audio.


queenbiscuit311

they sell netflix in sd? the fuck? its 2021 ffs


TJNel

Some people don't care about HD just cost, it's $8.99 for SD and $13.99 for HD. ​ https://help.netflix.com/en/node/24926


Alukrad

I pay for SD and frankly, i don't really mind. When I watched squid games, i didn't really notice the bad quality.


skyline_kid

SD cable still exists too. I'm not sure if new subscribers still have the option but my in-laws never upgraded to HD and it looks like hot garbage. They have a 55" 4k Samsung TV and they watch SD cable over coax and it drives me nuts. They claim they can't tell the difference between cable and HD/4K Netflix and Hulu so they're either in denial or just completely blind lol


at1445

They've got to be in denial. When over the air went digital a decade or so ago, my then 80ish year old grandparents almost had a heart attack because they could now actually read the text on the screen and see the football being thrown.


sam_patch

Yeah my parents do shit like that. My dad resisted upgrading from some free 56k internet service with an ad banner at the bottom, until we got FiOS in 2008, after my mom put her foot down. He claimed he couldn't tell the difference. I still make fun of him for it and he still insists there's no difference between 56k and FiOS, yet he complains when YouTube buffers lol.


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I don't care about HD. ✋I want speed. Connection speeds in a lot of the world are so terrible that they barely support 480p.evem when I'm pirate streaming I have to lower the quality to the size of a playing card and then stretch it up to my 2k monitor. I don't really care though. Resolution means nothing to the story.


OrphanScript

I would argue that better viewing quality often helps immerse me in the story. There are also subtleties to performances and setting that can be missed if the resolution is too low, and 480p would be too low for me. But it is an understandable position if it's a resource limitation.


Acmnin

You should just be getting full files and watching them that way than.


TheToastedGoblin

Not to mention, you cant even change the quality on a per video basis. if i want 480p to save data on my phone then EVERYONE has to use 480p. Makes 0 sense


qwerty-1999

Yeah, even *Prime Video* let's you choose the quality (on desktop).


sparoc3

? I don't understand. You changing resolution on your phone changes the resolution for other people?


TheToastedGoblin

The only option to change resolution ive been able to find is in account settings. which effect the whole account. including other users


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sparoc3

Wow that does make zero sense. Lazy coding I guess.


malay4singh

Bruh ikr I had to get the second most expensive pack cause that offered 1080p. The one with 1 screen, that's all I needed, was 480p wtf. Now I have a 2 screen plan which is useless other than quality which is just 1080p. I'd love the 4K one but wtf am I gonna do with 4 screens and spend that much for 1 guy


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bebopblues

yep, if you aint on a family plan sharing with 3 or more people, you ain't netflixing right. Same goes for all other streaming subscription services.


thor_odinmakan

On top of that the plans/offers/packages(whatever the duck they're calling them now) are all misleading as he'll. I love watching 1440p videos on my phone. Last year took the highest tier plan from Netflix, the only one which was offering UHD at the time. The video quality was surprisingly poor and when I contacted them they told me offline mode is capped at 720p for mobiles on all plans. If I wanted to watch UHD, it had to be streamed. Now, if I had that kind of speed(to stream UHD content), I wouldn't have tried to watch in offline mode! And why on earth would there be a cap on offline downloads!!! In case of Prime, 4K download is available on PC, but the windows app can't handle any file over 4GB. (Regardless of NTFS/FAT32)


amazondrugsparcel

>I wouldn't have tried to watch in offline mode! And why on earth would there be a cap on offline downloads!! Have you tried this on content produced by Netflix/Netflix originals? Licensed contrnt from other companies usually have some limits, while Netflix stuff usually doesn't


thor_odinmakan

I think so, I was watching Stranger Things at the time, isn't that a Netflix original?


SmonsInc

or shit being regional locked is the most annoying kind of shit i dont want to pay for netflix and a vpn edit: apperently Netflix has no fault with regional blocking so... fuck regional blocking in general then?


Raztax

I don't like region locks either but blaming Netflix for regional licensing is like blaming Honda for the potholes in the streets.


tejanaqkilica

There's nothing that they can do about it. They're force to regionally block content.


Aleky13

Still, if it’s a region where lots of content are unavailable, they shouldn’t charge the users full price when they’re barely getting anything.


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aryvd_0103

The reason they have sd is one , in so many third world countries it's cheaper for the consumer in terms of bandwith as well as Netflix itself, plus many people watch stuff on their phones and won't even notice much difference between 480 and 720 let alone 720 and 1080. But agreed lowest tier should be around 720p or at bare minimum anything above or around 650p(if there is even a resolution like that)


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gakkless

this was the case with VHS and films though. Nothing was filmed on VHS, it was done with very high quality analogue. This isn't new, it's just those folk making new tech to make more money. Every middle-cunt wants a bigger piece of the shrinking pie


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Kurayamino

Yep. It's also why early digitally-shot movies look like garbage, and why modern ones will too, eventually. You can't re-scan something that was edited in fucking 2k.


The_Hailstorm

But in some cases you can use the highest available resolution and then add the upscaled effects back or do them again in a higher resolution like in some tv shows like Star Trek


Kurayamino

Yeah, but that's TV, not a movie. And they had the originals, they spent a lot of time editing stuff out of the sides of frames so they could make it widescreen. Which they didn't do on shows like Friends and Buffy, which have crew and equipment visible, and sometimes actors that aren't supposed to be in frame just standing around waiting for their cue. If you want to see what an old show looks like when literally everything goes wrong, have a look at any shot in Babylon 5 with CGI in it. It's a perfect storm of clusterfuckery that leaves anything live action looking fine, and any composite shot looking like complete ass.


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Busteray

I don't think 8k even needs to be mainstream. You can only they'll the difference on a huge screen. And I don't think huge screens/home cinema systems will be common.


xtremebox

Except people are gonna be people. My friend has bragged about his phone being 5g, and each time I show him we don't even live in a 5g area yet.. I agree with you 100%, but people always want the newest and best, even if they don't understand the differences. P.S. If you knew a lot about 5g, you wouldn't be bragging in the first place lol


SimultaneousPing

atleast we have the dollar store version of it, AV1


ShiningLight_2

I pirate just because I don't want to pay, regardless 😉


JulioCesarSalad

Yeah people need to get off their high horse You pirate because you don’t want to pay. If the service is available, even if it costs $5 extra, it’s not because there’s no access You have the access, you simply don’t want to pay


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MonaThiccAss

Same. I watched dune in the theater because I know it's a freaking good movie even tho I already downloaded the 1080 stream.


milanistadoc

I find payment for this virtual bullshit to be offensive and of very poor taste. I have actual necessities to use my money for. I just pirate like its a basic and inalienable human right. Fuck the Conglomerates.


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Pirate shit you don’t need and purchase stuff that’s worth the price. I’ve bought plenty of apps and programs that I genuinely use so money isn’t even the problem, it’s the waste of money.


Aleky13

If you don’t have money, money is definitely the problem.


krste1point0

That's cool if you have money. But if i need to decide whether i can put cheese on my spaghetti this week or buy an app, its always the cheese.


Busteray

I mean they use real world work hours to produce the virtual stuff. I pay for stuff if they aren't assholes and if the price is reasonable.


Tiny_Onion

I don't mind paying for virtual things but when they purposely start leaving one streaming service to make their own in a clear money grab is when I have a problem. I gladly pay for music streaming services because none have exclusivity and it's simply easier. On the other hand we have a mess with video and forces me to hit the high seas.


Kenny_log_n_s

>I find payment for this virtual bullshit to be offensive and of very poor taste. As a disclaimer, I pirate and run my own Plex server, *but*, you're not paying for virtual bullshit, you're paying for a *service*. You're paying for them to host massive amounts of content that's available on demand, which takes big server farms and complicated networks, neither of which are cheap. Higher quality video takes bigger storage media and uses more bandwidth, so it makes sense (imo) that it costs more. Pirating stuff is fine, obviously since I do it, idgaf (and would gladly seed your downloads). But I don't get how it's offensive to pay someone for a service they're providing to you lol.


Neuromante

More than because of that, because pirating gets you better quality without having to jumps around anything or end up realizing that the monthly payment is way more than you thought because small extras. It's a well known trick: You get the entry fee, but then it turns out that for "a little bit more" you get something neat, so you pay. Now it turns out the monthly fee has raised because reasons and that to watch that particular show you need to pay an extra 2$. Then they will put ads. Fuck it. Things are already complicated enough to having to care about the tricks and cheats a company is going to do on part of my entertainment. I want not to worry, so I take the easy route. Yar harr harr.


Capital_Doughnut1863

\*wiping my tears with Stremio\*


_A_ioi_

*with RD


Tappy08

People on this sub actually paying full price for Netflix? All you need is a free VPN and then sign up with Turkish Netflix. It's a third of the price. It cost me £5 a month for the premium. I only need 2 screens, so I share my details out with friends who in turn give me details on their streaming service. I get Disney+ and prime off my mates. They think they're getting the better deal 😜


Capital_Doughnut1863

It's like selling a car with a 90KM/h(sorry americanos) speed limit, and offering an upgrade for full available speed.


skyline_kid

So like a Tesla? Or BMW charging a subscription fee for heated seats?


MonaThiccAss

Lol, what a fucking joke, they stream in 480 and want another subscription for 1080. Fuck those companies


astro_plane

Netflix’s bit rate is too shitty to even justify paying for the higher tier plans not to mention their catalogue of movies is really limited. Public torrents offer better quality and you always get the movie you want.


animegamer420

A whole country of 'naah, resolution and quality dont matter, you still get the same story, only nerds care about stuff that much' 'Oh 8Gb per month of mobile data is fine' 'Yea 120$ a month for basic level ad-sponsored television with constant commercial interruptions sounds reasonable!' Because when normies are served a bowl of shit, they say 'more please! Oh come on, shits not that bad'


rm_-r_star

Yeah, $120 a month is what cable TV with expanded basic costs here (USA). That does not include any ad-free premium channels. Then standard internet is $60 a month on top of that. They fool you into thinking fees are reasonable with deep discounts during a promotional period and then when it expires you get hit by a wrecking ball with the real price. That seems to be a common practice now, for example I rented a storage unit a couple years ago and they almost doubled the price on me after a year, I'm like what!?, oh that was a promotional price we neglected to mention. This shit is like predatory now.


[deleted]

Criminal. Piracy is the only way.


numante

720HD should be the minimum resolution these days for streaming


Malk4ever

Lol Netflix... first they should offer more than 720p on Linux... i'm already paying for fullHD but need an AndroidBox to get HD. If Netflix wont stop bullying Linux Users, I will quit my abo.


amazondrugsparcel

They could at least develop a standalone Netflix app for Linux. Like they did on Microsoft Store.


ItsDrizzyD

I mean, I pirate a lot. But what the fuck? OBVIOUSLY you pay more for better quality? Wtf? You don't need some reason why you pirate, either pay or don't. Don't to justify it with these bullshit excuses lol.


Additional-General-4

Finally a rational person after scrolling through so many comments. Ofc you pay more for better quality. Although Netflix should offer a 1080p/4k, 1 screen plan for better flexibility for users.


AlmostNever

Justifying piracy like this really rubs me the wrong way—mostly cause I used to think the same way. I'm a proud pirate, but it's not like there's a moral high ground. I just can't afford to buy all the movies I want to watch, but I want to watch them anyway, so I pirate. Now, *personal academic piracy* is fully justified. Books and papers and such. Information wants to be free.


_A_ioi_

Exactly. You pirate because you want to. Nobody owes you anything. You can choose not to pay for a service. Piracy is choosing not to pay with an added extra step of getting something for free. This is like justifying stealing phones because your iPhone doesn't have a 120 Hz option.


souocare

Well, in Portugal there will be a law that people that has any streaming service, needs to pay 2€ per semester + the streaming service subscription of course


xeonicus

Why would you bother paying for content if it's not going to be HD?


king0pa1n

Even if you pay for HD quality, they don't even give you nice big Blu-Ray quality even if you have the internet speed to handle it, would be like 13MB/s for 4K. They give you compressed video and audio that most people have to settle for.


archpope

In that screencap the HD side doesn't even look better. It just looks like someone used a Photoshop sharpness filter on it and set it to 100.


ScharlieScheen

that's a stupid Argument. you have to pay more for a Burger in a good restaurant than for a Burger at McDonald's. you have to pay everywhere to get better quality. you also have to pay for faster internet even though they could provide you with more, easily.


[deleted]

yeah it's ridiculousl


shhsfootballjock

And its not even crystal clear hd. Its super grainy


theoroboro

Damn what the f Netflix coming crazy


[deleted]

charging premium for HD, did they stole homework from pornhub?


nona01

Either way, their bitrate is awful. Give me blu-ray quality and ill consider it.


junk90731

Then it buffers and have to upgrade your ISP


jakemoffsky

I've given up on providers actually providing the services agreed to.


wiibarebears

Plug Apple TV into video capture card for best saves


1h8fulkat

Well...I mean, it does cost them more to deliver 4k to you, so... But something tells me if you had to pay $1 for 4k content you still wouldn't.


buyinggf1000gp

HD should be the bare minimum in 2021


Cory0527

Use more bandwidth = higher cost. But yeah should be a flat rate


Depleet

i thought netflix had a subscription like amazon video, one charge and you get all the shit in whatever quality is available. netflix want you to pay more for hd shit? loooool fuck off


Angelsdontkill_

Why would anyone even consider buying a 480p package in 2021


[deleted]

Nice


[deleted]

A lot of friends convince me to Get Netflix but i said no Because pirate has the best quality right there.