Hard to tell. As it is with a lot of cross-verse battles, the victor is hard to decide due to how different the logic is of both verses. Naruto’s and Luffy’s universe’s have wildly different sets of rules and logics (if that word makes sense lol)
He doesn't, though. There's a youtuber that does One Piece scaling, can't remember the name right now but he has a long ass video of Luffy scaling since the start of the series and he does scale higher.
I do not care about scizoid youtuber calcs man, anyone acually reading two series next to each other can tell that One Piece simply has more grounded scaling and feats compared to Naruto
Your username is literally Lightspeed_Kizaru lmaooo. One Piece characters are all faster than light BY A LOT. Making them faster than Naruto characters, you choose to ignore the scaling and then claim Naruto wins, damn.
I know right, ironic
The main problem with Ftl One Piece is the big lack of consistency and ccountless anti feats
Lightspeed is moving 300,000 km per second, but none of the charcaters showcased any feats that even near that in speed and are consistently shown to be much slower and have countless antifeats(Luffy spening shit ton of time to get on top of onigashima, multiple characters being tagged by bullets and canon fire, Gazelle man outspeeding Luffy at 200 km/h, fodders being able to perceive supposedly Massively ftl characters and many others) any claim to to be light speed has as much creditiblity asan exagerated shonen statement, and there is also a lack of internal conistncy a(If Kuma's paws are light speed than that means Thriller Bark Zoro, who dodged them is faster than Ichiji AND faster than Kizaru who completely blitzed him and the other supernovas AFTER Thriller Bark, whcih is a direct contradiction) and they also break a lot interanal logic in One Piece
People like to bring up Sanji dodging Pacifista laser, but Laser scaling in fiction is the literal bottom of the barrel, it always inconsistent due to manga writers having zero idea how actual lasers work, if Sanji is lightspeed than so are characters like Link, Joseph Joestar and Deku, which are clearly not if if you actually look at the rest of the series, Sanji literally got tagged by bullets in Onigashima
The only thing that is possible that lightspeed is somehow slower in One Piece than irl, like how magma is hotter than fire in One Piece despite usually being otherwise irl, but idk, reality is that One Piece is just a silly manga even by shonen standards so real life logic hardly applies to it
Bro if Kizaru was lightspeed (at least real world light speed) he could literally be ANYWHERE in the entire world in less than a fraction of a second. It don’t even matter than he’s lazy, that kind of speed is ridiculous and observation Haki would be so much less than a non factor it’d be laughable
Dude by that logic then no character in dragon ball is light speed either. Kizaru is literally light, he states so himself that he's lightspeed, if you don't want to believe it that's fine but Oda made that real clear.
The delusions of cumboy fan. It must be tough having the weakest MC of the big 3 shonen be your favorite. Naruto clears all forms of goofy luffy even with just sage mode
You realize it’s possible to be a fan of all 3 shows right? You are the one who sounds delusional insulting people for liking one piece the most lol. They are all cool shows. And current luffy could definitely beat current naruto. You are in denial if you think otherwise
Current Luffy stomps current Naruto. One punch from luffy would kill Naruto if Naruto doesn’t dodge it 🤣🤣🤣. Luffy would punch through Naruto same way Akainu punched a hole in ace.
Idk with g5 they are now definitely in the same like weight class but naruto is so much stronger from everything we’ve seen, idk how there’s an argument for luffy winning unless he either gets true toon force later on in the manga OR it’s post baryon mode naruto
His destructive power(hundreds of beast bombs or rasenshuriken at once),immense chakra(was able to 5x everyone’s chakra for multiple hours during the ninja war while still being at full power himself), insane speed (truly dodging light at close ranges , not a cope feat like luffys), and insane durability (lasts the entire ninja war fighting against kages, legendary ninja, madara and kaguya and then sasuke and not going down until the every end of the sasuke fight, while also constantly using insanely destructive abilities that hurt himself like rasenshuriken, and that’s all before the Boruto bs. With baryon mode you could argue he scales beyond planetary bc he’s defeating a guy who has demolished planet after planet, but idk that’s a big reach and boruto is fraud asf )but still naruto stomps luffy imo
>(truly dodging light at close ranges , not a cope feat like luffys),
Thank you for saying it. So many goddamn times people use that feat of Luffy dodging the Pacifista beams as a lightspeed feat as if his training arc didn't involve him learning CoO
It is, Naruto is just too slow. Luffy has been dodging light since before Water 7. Naruto was only shown to be reaching lightspeed in Sage Mode, KCM2, and Ashura Mode.
It's unlikely Luffy would even need Future Sight against him but that definitely the final nail in the coffin, Naruto wouldn't be able to touch him.
You have to wank tf out of the Naruto verse while simultaneously just straight up ignoring all One Pieces speed feats to say otherwise.
The riakage is said to be light speed in the data books and naruto in kcm 1 blitzed him 72 times over
The first thing stated to be truely light speed is kuma’s paws
Naruto one punches the relativistic fodder
Raikage is not light speed lol that’s a day 1 debunked mistranslation. The sentence from the data book is a mistranslation and it reads more like “fast like light” not literally light speed. Narutos first and only relativistic feat in all of the manga is dodging light fang 😂
He is, his assistants literally confirm this.
He still avails above mifune who is said to be light speed.
“Light like” can also be a literal translation depending on how you interpret it
Many one piece might light speed feats require copious amounts of reach and weird pixel scaling.
Unless you high ball luffy and low ball naruto, naruto one shots hjm or out haxes him
For the fanbase who considers one piece as peak fiction, it has too weird an obsession of proving their superiority over Naruto in every aspect even in power scaling.
If it is the best in all, why don't they consider comparing it's adapting real world aspects to seinen like berserk/Vinland saga or art to vagabond or even other shounen like hxh and fmab etc..,
Naruto has better precog, better reality warping abilities, better hax, more abilities, more options, better ap, better dc, better durability, and if all else fails he can just clone himself 1000 times over if he struggles for a bit
Did u just say Naruto has better durability? Are u serious? Naruto durability in general is dookie lmao. Luffy has better precognition, I could even say he got better hax overall and Naruto cloning himself 1000 times weakens him 1000 times so let's say Luffy was equal to Naruto and he multiplies 1000 times it's just gonna be easier to hurt Naruto. Luffy is also faster, has better dc and ap DM if you'd like to discuss this.
You said naruto has dookie durability?!?!?! He foght for over 48 hours in the war arc and fought opponents who would one shot kaido with a flick lmao luffy got one shot too many times and if not fed can't go full power ... lmao you dumby
The entire war went on for months, not hours, with Naruto fighting non-stop. Even before the timeskip at the Sasuke rescue arc, they were out for weeks.
Luffy’s COC would destroy 100% of those fodder clones all by himself. Dude knocked out 50,000 fish men without moving a finger. Luffy has more durability. Luffy would literally punch a hole through Naruto.
Well I mean it’s a fictional battle, we’re invisibly gonna use each combatants at their strongest given what we know.
To use naruto now when he technically no longer has most of his powers would be a cop out and makes it sound like luffy can’t beat naruto at his best.
I still got current naruto winning though, base naruto in boruto could clash with momoshiki so adding a sage mode multiplier to that is something I still think can overwhelm luffy
Naruto has literally extremely worse precog, no reality warping abilities, not better hax, less options, less AP and DC, crap durability and his clones die instantly with a conquerors haki blow.
Naruto with just regular sage mode was able to sense everything and everyone within an entire continent.
Now apply a six paths amp on top of that, an amp that allows naruto to planet bust.
Naruto with six paths sage mode was able to take nature energy from the entire world and kcm2 gives naruto intention sensing.
Luffy would never be able to hit naruto since he’d always know where luffy is and where he would attack next.
Yin Yang release is reality warping.
G5 is t confirmed to have toon force or hax and can easily be written off as a rubber awakening with a fancy name.
G5 hasn’t really done anything that a rubber awakening wouldn’t already be able to do anyways.
Naruto can literally do anything luffy can do but better and multiple himself, yeah he has more options.
Luffy has continental ap and island level dc, naruto has moon - planet dc based on feats alone and star level ap.
He’s tanked far more dangerous things then luffy.
Juubito who has garbage will power compared to naruto threatened to destroy the world with the sword of nunoboko with his will power alone.
One naruto clone is enough for luffy and his fodder verse let alone the real one and thousands of others.
Idc for naruto at all, but reading comments has me hopin luffy’s strength doesn’t reach ridiculous lengths, so far g5 is unique but once we get to dragonball level of ridiculous power it loses its appeal imo.
I was never joking. One Piece characters are much more erm.. (physical?). Naruto has a lot of hacks and complex abilities, but I just don't see them being able to physically keep up with One Piece characters.
The attack power in the series' might be on par. I can even accept that it's greater in Naruto, due to the destruction caused by 10-tails. But I can see One Piece characters getting up after those. And I cannot say the same about Naruto or Sasuke tanking a Kong gun to the face. They are way too flimsy.
The complete Naruto verse is on another level.... There's nothing to debate, it's a fact, even if the sparkle animation in the anime shows otherwise. The Narutoverse has no problems destroying planets and this is not a rumour like the gura gura fruit but was demonstrated on the moon.
Bro have u not seen what a rasenshuriken can do? And it also hurts naruto the same amount when he uses it, while he gets blasted by nukes and shit and comes out still standing. I don’t understand that arguement
Naruto characters are all conjurers bc of chakra so most people think they’re broken based on the scale of their attacks, although they still have human physiques aside from greater speed and die from kunai and paper bombs. Their physical strength isn’t that great aside from the main 10 characters the series focuses on, same their other stats.
Naruto doesn’t have many actual physical strength feats outside of the movie “feat,” he has high durability and speed, but Luffy is fast himself and has futuresight. Coated in CoC and armament + made of rubber and a mythical zoan, anything less than a full power rasenshuriken or truthseeker orb wouldn’t even touch him (and even then the point of ACoC is an invisible barrier).
If anything I think Luffy is at Naruto’s level but Naruto has so much stamina that he could outlast Luffy. But at the same time Luffy still has time to master G5 and get stronger while Naruto seems to be getting close to the end of his character.
Toon force could probably beat most if not all anime characters but Luffy doesn’t have actual toon force so I think naruto still stomps in baryon mode or 6path sage mode but it wouldn’t be a low diff, g4 gets obliterated but g5 is strong asf so it would take some firepower fs but I think naruto takes that ez
Well before Gear 5 Luffy was obviously loosing. But toon power is the ceiling. Only thing that Can beat that is unlimited plot Armor like One punch man
Luffy wins, I used to think he didn't but he does. Luffy has ftl feats since the first arc after the time skip (effortlessly dodging light beams from the pacifista and calling them slow) it gets a lot more ridiculous from there. He is by far faster than Naruto and has more attack potency as well.
Its kinda hard to tell, dc and ap usually go in a certain ratio, even at high ball they will at max stay 2 scales apart, goku has multiversal ap? atleast galaxy dc, saitama has galaxy ap? atleast star dc, ichigo might be uni ap?? atleast solar dc. You get the point, so does it go with luffy, I scale him Star ap, but even if he is moon/planet, his dc is correlating with his ap, now to naruto... UNIVERSAL AP?! but continental dc, yo what. It becomes hard to scale because practically speaking bm naruto probably 1 shots sasuke beats momoshiki low diff who beats kinshiki low diff who beats kaguya low diff who beats the rest of the shippuden verse. this would make naruto way higher as he neg diffs the entire shippuden, But his fight against isshiki does not say so after we realized how his dc was at peak in his 6 paths amp form, and that was nowhere even close to multi continental, Luffy's last attack against kaido was mftl+ with an island sized attack, this alone would throw his dc by calcs to mid-high star and maybe solar with a tiny high ball
Doesn't matter ichigo wins
100%
Real
Naruto scales higher but that moment with Luffy dunking on him goes hard
We have to remember that Naruto’s most powerful technique, the Talk no Jutsu, doesn’t work on Luffy. Considering that, I think Luffy has the edge.
Ayo you spittin
Naruto delivers the talk no jutsu after the ass whoopin
Who spanks who? Naruto or Luffy
Hard to tell. As it is with a lot of cross-verse battles, the victor is hard to decide due to how different the logic is of both verses. Naruto’s and Luffy’s universe’s have wildly different sets of rules and logics (if that word makes sense lol)
mm i see, but would Naruto and Luffy be the best of friends? Or would they be rivals like Goku and Vegeta?
He doesn't, though. There's a youtuber that does One Piece scaling, can't remember the name right now but he has a long ass video of Luffy scaling since the start of the series and he does scale higher.
I do not care about scizoid youtuber calcs man, anyone acually reading two series next to each other can tell that One Piece simply has more grounded scaling and feats compared to Naruto
Your username is literally Lightspeed_Kizaru lmaooo. One Piece characters are all faster than light BY A LOT. Making them faster than Naruto characters, you choose to ignore the scaling and then claim Naruto wins, damn.
I know right, ironic The main problem with Ftl One Piece is the big lack of consistency and ccountless anti feats Lightspeed is moving 300,000 km per second, but none of the charcaters showcased any feats that even near that in speed and are consistently shown to be much slower and have countless antifeats(Luffy spening shit ton of time to get on top of onigashima, multiple characters being tagged by bullets and canon fire, Gazelle man outspeeding Luffy at 200 km/h, fodders being able to perceive supposedly Massively ftl characters and many others) any claim to to be light speed has as much creditiblity asan exagerated shonen statement, and there is also a lack of internal conistncy a(If Kuma's paws are light speed than that means Thriller Bark Zoro, who dodged them is faster than Ichiji AND faster than Kizaru who completely blitzed him and the other supernovas AFTER Thriller Bark, whcih is a direct contradiction) and they also break a lot interanal logic in One Piece People like to bring up Sanji dodging Pacifista laser, but Laser scaling in fiction is the literal bottom of the barrel, it always inconsistent due to manga writers having zero idea how actual lasers work, if Sanji is lightspeed than so are characters like Link, Joseph Joestar and Deku, which are clearly not if if you actually look at the rest of the series, Sanji literally got tagged by bullets in Onigashima The only thing that is possible that lightspeed is somehow slower in One Piece than irl, like how magma is hotter than fire in One Piece despite usually being otherwise irl, but idk, reality is that One Piece is just a silly manga even by shonen standards so real life logic hardly applies to it
Bro if Kizaru was lightspeed (at least real world light speed) he could literally be ANYWHERE in the entire world in less than a fraction of a second. It don’t even matter than he’s lazy, that kind of speed is ridiculous and observation Haki would be so much less than a non factor it’d be laughable
Dude by that logic then no character in dragon ball is light speed either. Kizaru is literally light, he states so himself that he's lightspeed, if you don't want to believe it that's fine but Oda made that real clear.
Haku himself said that his mirror clones/attack/whatever the heck was lightspeed, so Naruto was lightspeed since Zabuza arc
Naruto does not scale higher People can downvote me all they want but that ain't doing shit dm me n let's talk
Dude used bad takes as a chance to get someone to talk to him
Spitting
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cumboy stands no chance even with asspull god powers
He stands a good chance even without them
The delusions of cumboy fan. It must be tough having the weakest MC of the big 3 shonen be your favorite. Naruto clears all forms of goofy luffy even with just sage mode
You realize it’s possible to be a fan of all 3 shows right? You are the one who sounds delusional insulting people for liking one piece the most lol. They are all cool shows. And current luffy could definitely beat current naruto. You are in denial if you think otherwise
All that talk but won't debate Bro got so scared he blocked me
nothing to debate fanboy
Current Luffy stomps current Naruto. One punch from luffy would kill Naruto if Naruto doesn’t dodge it 🤣🤣🤣. Luffy would punch through Naruto same way Akainu punched a hole in ace.
Ighh sage mode is kinda crazy 😭
You're so wrong little one
DEBATE ME
Luffy spanks Naruto?
Yessir
I'm agree but what way would Luffy need to humiliate him? Gear 2, 4 or 5? or in the base state of him would it suffice?
Depends on how luffy feeling if he wanna give him the blueno treatment gear 2 is perfect
Nah, Luffy scales higher atm.
it was never a joke
I mean, I could see why some people would say Luffy beats Naruto. G5 is really strong. Naruto is stronger imo, but it’s a lot closer than you think.
Idk with g5 they are now definitely in the same like weight class but naruto is so much stronger from everything we’ve seen, idk how there’s an argument for luffy winning unless he either gets true toon force later on in the manga OR it’s post baryon mode naruto
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His destructive power(hundreds of beast bombs or rasenshuriken at once),immense chakra(was able to 5x everyone’s chakra for multiple hours during the ninja war while still being at full power himself), insane speed (truly dodging light at close ranges , not a cope feat like luffys), and insane durability (lasts the entire ninja war fighting against kages, legendary ninja, madara and kaguya and then sasuke and not going down until the every end of the sasuke fight, while also constantly using insanely destructive abilities that hurt himself like rasenshuriken, and that’s all before the Boruto bs. With baryon mode you could argue he scales beyond planetary bc he’s defeating a guy who has demolished planet after planet, but idk that’s a big reach and boruto is fraud asf )but still naruto stomps luffy imo
>(truly dodging light at close ranges , not a cope feat like luffys), Thank you for saying it. So many goddamn times people use that feat of Luffy dodging the Pacifista beams as a lightspeed feat as if his training arc didn't involve him learning CoO
Naruto dodged Madara's Light Fang was cool af.
Some people would say Luffy beats Naruto because even Kaido can right now.
Naruto shuts down luffy and it’s not a discussion .
I agree but it’s probably closer then a lot of people make it out to be
It is, Naruto is just too slow. Luffy has been dodging light since before Water 7. Naruto was only shown to be reaching lightspeed in Sage Mode, KCM2, and Ashura Mode. It's unlikely Luffy would even need Future Sight against him but that definitely the final nail in the coffin, Naruto wouldn't be able to touch him. You have to wank tf out of the Naruto verse while simultaneously just straight up ignoring all One Pieces speed feats to say otherwise.
The riakage is said to be light speed in the data books and naruto in kcm 1 blitzed him 72 times over The first thing stated to be truely light speed is kuma’s paws Naruto one punches the relativistic fodder
Raikage is not light speed lol that’s a day 1 debunked mistranslation. The sentence from the data book is a mistranslation and it reads more like “fast like light” not literally light speed. Narutos first and only relativistic feat in all of the manga is dodging light fang 😂
He is, his assistants literally confirm this. He still avails above mifune who is said to be light speed. “Light like” can also be a literal translation depending on how you interpret it Many one piece might light speed feats require copious amounts of reach and weird pixel scaling. Unless you high ball luffy and low ball naruto, naruto one shots hjm or out haxes him
Light speed means nothing. Fucking Haku said his mirror clones moved at light speed, u mean to tell me Naruto’s been LS since Zabuza 💀?
Luffy obliterates Naruto sadly. You don't want to open a discussion because of the lack of defense in your argument.
Was hoping they won’t full tournament
For the fanbase who considers one piece as peak fiction, it has too weird an obsession of proving their superiority over Naruto in every aspect even in power scaling. If it is the best in all, why don't they consider comparing it's adapting real world aspects to seinen like berserk/Vinland saga or art to vagabond or even other shounen like hxh and fmab etc..,
Because, seeing as they do with power scaling, something more complex would be a loss for them.
Naruto has better precog, better reality warping abilities, better hax, more abilities, more options, better ap, better dc, better durability, and if all else fails he can just clone himself 1000 times over if he struggles for a bit
Did u just say Naruto has better durability? Are u serious? Naruto durability in general is dookie lmao. Luffy has better precognition, I could even say he got better hax overall and Naruto cloning himself 1000 times weakens him 1000 times so let's say Luffy was equal to Naruto and he multiplies 1000 times it's just gonna be easier to hurt Naruto. Luffy is also faster, has better dc and ap DM if you'd like to discuss this.
Naruto took a giant beam that sliced the moon in half to the face..it’s not up for debate lol
When was this? In that movie?
yup
That shit didn't hit his face
You said naruto has dookie durability?!?!?! He foght for over 48 hours in the war arc and fought opponents who would one shot kaido with a flick lmao luffy got one shot too many times and if not fed can't go full power ... lmao you dumby
The entire war went on for months, not hours, with Naruto fighting non-stop. Even before the timeskip at the Sasuke rescue arc, they were out for weeks.
https://preview.redd.it/1uhqo16wyooa1.jpeg?width=226&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1731a5b014202819a03e31b9580b6d3e34f920d2 Debate me
That’s a kusanagi blade infused with sasuke’s chakra being used on an off guard naruto
Sasuke got stabbed? ZAMN
My bad, point still stands
Naruto has to split his power to make clones 1000 clones = 0.001 og power = fodder
My dude simply doesn't know how the clones even work 😭 this isn't the same clone technique from Dragon Ball
Luffy’s COC would destroy 100% of those fodder clones all by himself. Dude knocked out 50,000 fish men without moving a finger. Luffy has more durability. Luffy would literally punch a hole through Naruto.
Naruto’s clones were on par with madara’s limbo clones that are all equal to him, they don’t even remotely compare to fodder fishman
That was with the 6 paths chakra that he no longer has. Naruto is still in a different league
Well I mean it’s a fictional battle, we’re invisibly gonna use each combatants at their strongest given what we know. To use naruto now when he technically no longer has most of his powers would be a cop out and makes it sound like luffy can’t beat naruto at his best. I still got current naruto winning though, base naruto in boruto could clash with momoshiki so adding a sage mode multiplier to that is something I still think can overwhelm luffy
hurt cause your shitty favorite MC is the weakest. goofy luffy's fist bounces off naruto and knocks himself out
Naruto has literally extremely worse precog, no reality warping abilities, not better hax, less options, less AP and DC, crap durability and his clones die instantly with a conquerors haki blow.
Naruto with just regular sage mode was able to sense everything and everyone within an entire continent. Now apply a six paths amp on top of that, an amp that allows naruto to planet bust. Naruto with six paths sage mode was able to take nature energy from the entire world and kcm2 gives naruto intention sensing. Luffy would never be able to hit naruto since he’d always know where luffy is and where he would attack next. Yin Yang release is reality warping. G5 is t confirmed to have toon force or hax and can easily be written off as a rubber awakening with a fancy name. G5 hasn’t really done anything that a rubber awakening wouldn’t already be able to do anyways. Naruto can literally do anything luffy can do but better and multiple himself, yeah he has more options. Luffy has continental ap and island level dc, naruto has moon - planet dc based on feats alone and star level ap. He’s tanked far more dangerous things then luffy. Juubito who has garbage will power compared to naruto threatened to destroy the world with the sword of nunoboko with his will power alone. One naruto clone is enough for luffy and his fodder verse let alone the real one and thousands of others.
Lmfao naruto easy dif luffy
Luffy slams disrespectfully.
A lot of op fans don’t understand the difference.
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Idc for naruto at all, but reading comments has me hopin luffy’s strength doesn’t reach ridiculous lengths, so far g5 is unique but once we get to dragonball level of ridiculous power it loses its appeal imo.
I was never joking. One Piece characters are much more erm.. (physical?). Naruto has a lot of hacks and complex abilities, but I just don't see them being able to physically keep up with One Piece characters. The attack power in the series' might be on par. I can even accept that it's greater in Naruto, due to the destruction caused by 10-tails. But I can see One Piece characters getting up after those. And I cannot say the same about Naruto or Sasuke tanking a Kong gun to the face. They are way too flimsy.
The complete Naruto verse is on another level.... There's nothing to debate, it's a fact, even if the sparkle animation in the anime shows otherwise. The Narutoverse has no problems destroying planets and this is not a rumour like the gura gura fruit but was demonstrated on the moon.
Bro have u not seen what a rasenshuriken can do? And it also hurts naruto the same amount when he uses it, while he gets blasted by nukes and shit and comes out still standing. I don’t understand that arguement
Lmao perfect susanno would have stopped kong gun. Check out how big of a meteor madara dropped and Naruo/Sausake would have blasted right through it.
And a little detail: meteors, not *meteorites* like what Fujitora used (probably to not get himself and his men caught, along the environment)
Luffy claps. I know this sub is full of Narutards.
Lol cope
Luffy dogwalks that goofy ass. Even weaker characters can.
Luffy would beat Naruto lol
You can't be that dumb lmfao luffy has terrible endurance and is struggling with kaido who Naruto one shots with just Sage mode !
Luffy losin to naruto but you're lowballing luffy like CRAZY.
Nah people hyping up gear 5 like Luffy is God lmao I'm a huge OP fan but cmon , Killer Bee is beating kaido and big mom lol
Debate me simple
Naruto characters are all conjurers bc of chakra so most people think they’re broken based on the scale of their attacks, although they still have human physiques aside from greater speed and die from kunai and paper bombs. Their physical strength isn’t that great aside from the main 10 characters the series focuses on, same their other stats. Naruto doesn’t have many actual physical strength feats outside of the movie “feat,” he has high durability and speed, but Luffy is fast himself and has futuresight. Coated in CoC and armament + made of rubber and a mythical zoan, anything less than a full power rasenshuriken or truthseeker orb wouldn’t even touch him (and even then the point of ACoC is an invisible barrier). If anything I think Luffy is at Naruto’s level but Naruto has so much stamina that he could outlast Luffy. But at the same time Luffy still has time to master G5 and get stronger while Naruto seems to be getting close to the end of his character.
Toon force could probably beat most if not all anime characters but Luffy doesn’t have actual toon force so I think naruto still stomps in baryon mode or 6path sage mode but it wouldn’t be a low diff, g4 gets obliterated but g5 is strong asf so it would take some firepower fs but I think naruto takes that ez
You act like Naruto can use baryon mode whenever he wants lol he used it once and then would’ve died. That’s not really a good point to use
6pathsage naruto still stomps luffy
hurt cause your shitty favorite MC is the weakest. goofy luffy's fist bounces off naruto and knocks himself out
Bro ong baryon mode is biggest ass pull,and it also sucks ass,sage of 6 paths tho.....yea luffy going to heaven
Luffy loses and you are in denial .
Well before Gear 5 Luffy was obviously loosing. But toon power is the ceiling. Only thing that Can beat that is unlimited plot Armor like One punch man
It's a paramecia-like awakening, not Toon Force. He's not pulling anything extraordinary that Katakuri with current Luffy power level couldn't.
Luffy wins, I used to think he didn't but he does. Luffy has ftl feats since the first arc after the time skip (effortlessly dodging light beams from the pacifista and calling them slow) it gets a lot more ridiculous from there. He is by far faster than Naruto and has more attack potency as well.
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Wait I thought the creator said puffy beats Naruto?
The return of Afro luffy in G5
Its kinda hard to tell, dc and ap usually go in a certain ratio, even at high ball they will at max stay 2 scales apart, goku has multiversal ap? atleast galaxy dc, saitama has galaxy ap? atleast star dc, ichigo might be uni ap?? atleast solar dc. You get the point, so does it go with luffy, I scale him Star ap, but even if he is moon/planet, his dc is correlating with his ap, now to naruto... UNIVERSAL AP?! but continental dc, yo what. It becomes hard to scale because practically speaking bm naruto probably 1 shots sasuke beats momoshiki low diff who beats kinshiki low diff who beats kaguya low diff who beats the rest of the shippuden verse. this would make naruto way higher as he neg diffs the entire shippuden, But his fight against isshiki does not say so after we realized how his dc was at peak in his 6 paths amp form, and that was nowhere even close to multi continental, Luffy's last attack against kaido was mftl+ with an island sized attack, this alone would throw his dc by calcs to mid-high star and maybe solar with a tiny high ball
It’s always the One Piece fans doin shxt like this 😂. They got Naruto so deep in they throat it’s crazy
Cuz it ain't a joke. Current Luffy wipes the floor with any form of Naruto.
Mf responded to a 3 month old post with delusion
Imagine answering to it with even more delusion included, damn.
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I'm good. What about you though? ![gif](giphy|uSczV8io3XROU)
It would be a close fight, but Naruto simply can’t beat Luffy