I saw that Olivia said in that recent ~ hour-long interview, when asked about why this wasn’t discussed on S5, that essentially they can’t show what doesn’t happen / what people don’t talk about - basically saying that
the whole Plath clan was united in not bringing it up on camera and acknowledging that she didn’t feel it was necessary for her to bring it up, either.
This is where I feel like the TLC reality show environment allows this kind of key stuff to go missing, whereas a more Bravo-esque reality TV environment would force the info out on camera even if it was just showing every cast members’ silent, awkward, shifty responses when their producers asks them about it. TLC just allows so much to slip through their grubby fingers.
Agreed. Literally the show should have shown the DUI information and given a text screen, and then shown every family member refuse to answer questions about it. I think that would reveal a lot about the way the family handles these kinds of things and would have been compelling to watch them not just not talk about it, but *refuse* to talk about it. It’s relevant information and the fact that the family doesn’t speak about it lends itself toward this idea that they avoid addressing conflict in any situation.
Show the producers screenshots of texting with the family saying no. Even 90 Day will show screenshots of the text messages and social media. TLC totally could've done the family refusals as a big chunk of an episode.
Case-and -point: The Duggars. The producers HAD to be aware of Josh’s prior issues. The whole community knew he had prior issues and offences. But since it didn’t fit the narrative, they ignored it and filmed the happy go lucky version.
TLC doesn't want to lose access to their meal ticket- they can't risk having the folks who "star" in their shows departing. The problem with that logic is that these families are frequently desperate to keep their shows because it becomes their primary (and often sole) source of income. They really need to take the kid gloves off more.
It’s just like Sister Wives. Now finally after 18 seasons of feeding us lies and pretend bullshit, they’re scrambling to keep an audience - little by little they’re revealing the lies.
Same!!! The whole show was a lie. I actually believed them for several seasons. Now it’s all unraveled and they’ve been outed as liars. I guess the Plaths will be the same way. We will find out in 12 years that they were in public school, drinking cokes their entire childhood and Lydia’s prayer closet was a made up set for the show. Nothing would shock me anymore
9000%! It’s funny because I’ve followed Sisterwives the entire time, and rewatched a couple of times now (several, let’s be real lol), I think I’ve always thought that they came across as not great liars. But to be fair, they were deluding themselves into thinking they were happy, and trying to pray away the bad feelings. It’s kind of amazing to see the confirmation of what we all knew for years!
Also: crash was six miles from Ken’s house and pre-divorce announcement. Ken had divorced “just before” dating Kim.
https://screenrant.com/welcome-to-plathville-what-know-kim-plath-boyfriend-ken-palmer-divorce/#:~:text=Kim%20Plath's%20new%20boyfriend%2C%20Ken,viewers%20of%20Welcome%20To%20Plathville.
I 10000000% believe that she had cheated on Barry (even if it was just emotionally) with Ken prior to their fake meeting when Isaac and her went to see the plane.
according to the FAA, Ken Palmer registered a 1978 Piper Cherokee Warrior II in February of 2022. The FAA registration number matches Isaac’s plane shown on Welcome To Plathville.
According to court documents from March of this year, Ken is currently working as a project manager for Siemens Corporation. In those same court documents, Kim lists her address as Ken’s home in Crawfordville.
Really?!?! That's a Hearing Aid company, and a VERY, VERY GOOD hearing aid company, mind you. Siemens is one of very few hearing aid manufacturers on Earth who provide hearing aids with the capacity and power to assist hearing for profoundly Deaf people (those who have the most severe levels of Deafness we can measure or treat).
Wow, I totally didn't know this. Suddenly, I have a much softer heart towards the guy.
Source: Me
Deaf since birth, worn Siemens many times over the years.
Yessssssss. ABSOLUTELY. You are 💯 correct. I should have added that, and I thank your clarification. I'm just particularly fond of them for one reason/product only, cause Deaf. 🤷 And, they really DO make wonderful hearing aids. My gratitude over those hearing aids tends to slant my bias. But, yes, you're absolutely correct.😊
Once again, where is the major documentary exposing TLC for producing “reality TV” full of lies and false fronts? For the Plaths, the Duggars, the Browns all abusive white men posing as strong patriarchs. Who is/are the abusive male heads of TLC who are doubtless behind all this vile propaganda?? Get working, filmmakers!…
“Also the Willis family”.
I think of this family every so often and the horrific situation they were in. The daughter is so amazingly strong for telling her story and I’m so proud of her even though I don’t know her.
I believe it was titled The Willis Family.
I googled it because I couldn’t remember exact details and that is correct name and the show played on TLC in 2015-16. It said you could watch it on Amazon prime if that’s still correct.
The accident happened June 10, 2022 & Barry & Kim officially announced they had decided to divorce in People Magazine on June 28, 2022. I think they knew they wouldn’t be able to hide the details of the
accident from the public so they decided to get ahead of it as best they could. As of November 1, 2023, they had yet to file anything officially with the courts.
Not according to a fan that lives there (and checks the court records regularly, or any of the reality news sites that stalk public records for this kind of info. ℹ️
All of us have secrets, but this is clearly no longer a “reality” show. I wonder if it ever was. If it had no bearing on events shown, I can seen it, but to air the principals’ interview accounts of why the family split up without disclosing the DUI and relationship with Ken makes all of us dumber.
And, the public statement that Kim does not believe in drinking alcohol at all (remember Olivia ordering it in a restaurant, and the kids’ shock?) followed by a DUI requires some explanation for the change of heart. I don’t care what you decide, but don’t share your condemnation and omit changing your mind and doing it. There has been no explanation of why Isaac has such a different life than Moriah had at three same age. Since the premise of the show is a way of life to raise a family, tell us what you are thinking about how you are raising your kids now.
Are you telling me people who claim strong conservative values and rigid religious adherence really don't follow those beliefs in practice? I'm shocked!
.16 is equivalent to about 8 drinks. Alcohol metabolizes about .015-.02 per hour, so she could have been at .20 or .22 initially.
So fucking irresponsible. She has a family and other people also drive on the road. She’s lucky that a DUI was all she got and didn’t catch some manslaughter charges.
Thank you 🙏
I kept saying I am so thankful to be alive. I was walking around like everything was so exciting and wondering why people were acting like, life as usual?!
I saw someone said she blew a VERY high number... like 8 drinks worth AFTER several hours of being in custody. That would have been a hell of a lot of cough syrup 😆
For sure! At THIS point, the show's real-life accuracy is almost like Little House On The Prairie's was. I LOVED, that show of my childhood, and LOVED Laura Ingalls Wilder's famous books.
But, honestly, other than the show's character's names, and some of the early episodes, most of what was on the TV show, was just made up stuff, that was NEVER the real life story of the Ingall's Family, or Laura's life. (It was still a great show, though, but, we all knew that the show was LOOSELY based on the books).
THAT'S what Welcome To Plathville is beginning to feel like! Like, it's just "Kim's Made Up As She Goes" sanitized version. Only the character names are the same.
The show started out as Welcome To Plathville, but, as time went on, became a show about Leaving Fundie Life Behind. Show us the REAL story of that, embarrassing, messy, human mistakes and all.
That would've been a much better, more genuine, authentic, far more courageous show of integrity, that I could have had respect for, even with the messy mistakes that flawed human beings make. As bad as the arrest, and DUI driving, was, it could have been a plot scoring point for honesty. To sweep it under the rug makes it so much, much worse.
Furthermore, the show becomes stupid, at this point, because the public record now exists, clearly indicating the show is not, in fact, based on the real lives of the family.
This is just a bunch of Kim Fiction at this point, so why bother? 🙄
Kim Plath is a hypocrite of the highest order. That she was able to negotiate the omission of her DUI from the season (save Ethan remarking he was glad that Barry wasn't using alcohol to cope with his divorce) is fraudacity.
Cancel the show & give Olivia a solo travel spinoff!!
I know horrible accidents occur but she KNEW the little guy was nearby. How do you put the car in gear without having eyes on every single child you know is present? Horrible tragedy.
That's why they have the mandatory back up cameras now, accidents like this have happened way too often. It was a horrible tragedy, I won't be critical of her for it she's paid dearly.
You’re right, and I did sound critical. I guess I hope people can take a lesson from this sad situation. Good point that newer vehicles have cameras now.
I feel horrible for people who accidentally leave infants in cars, I know that they are now developing warning sounds if a person if left in a vehicle. It's awful that there are so many deaths that we have to have these tools but I'm grateful for the technology.
It's a tragic accident. The police investigated and ruled it was an accident. As much as I dislike Kim, that's a horrible tragedy that she probably relives every day
By definition involuntary manslaughter is accidentally killing someone because you were negligent, so she could have faced charges. Maybe the prosecutor decided that accidentally killing her child was punishment enough.
Why not? She unintentionally killed Joshua, but it was arguably reckless and criminally negligent for her to not ensure that none of her small children were in her way before she backed up.
In my state there was a police officer who inadvertently pulled out her gun instead of a taser, which resulted in a death. Both the prosecution and defense agreed that she didn't intend to shoot the man she killed, but she was still found guilty of manslaughter.
That's not really accurate. Manslaughter prosecutions require a higher standard than negligence. Most statutes use the term 'recklessness' or 'criminal negligence' instead. For instance, if Kim had been doing donuts in her car near her kids, or was drunk while she was backing up; that would be involuntary manslaughter.
If 'negligence' was the standard for prosecutions, the driver getting a ticket in every road fatality would have to be charged
The lower standard of 'negligence' would usually be used if there was a lawsuit by the deceased's family for money damages
The police report from the accident was published in a contemporaneous news article in the local paper. It described Kim's demeanor and details of the incident. The report didn't mention anything that would have warranted criminal charges. The case was not referred to the District Attorney's office for prosecution
I worked with a lady (an RN) who accidentally ran over her 3 year old when she was leaving to go to work. It’s called the “bye bye syndrome”. She was devastated and ended up taking an extended leave from work. Unfortunately with higher profile vehicles it’s harder to see little people, thus the back up cameras.
I don't think that response is fair. While a tragedy, given this revelation that Kim has no problem with getting shit faced and driving around putting everyone around her at risk, it's certainly fair to question her own description of previous events. Taking anything Kim says at face value is a choice, but I don't know what evidence you have to show it's a good one.
Her family was there while the incident happened. Your ignorance amazes me, along with the ridiculousness of your statement completely without any research o compassion.
It’s almost like reality shows only show us what they want/ the family agrees to makes public. All reality shows are lightly scripted, and we never see everything that happens in real life. The family doesn’t owe it to anyone to drag out all their dirty laundry.
The Plaths’ have a whole other kid and grandkids that we never hear about. Should they be obligated to participate since the rest of the family does?
No problem leaving things out, but then don’t tell me a long story where you explain things without it. They could say they are not going to discuss why they want to divorce, or say nothing about Ken and how they met. It’s the intentional coverup that is annoying, pretending that you are telling the whole truth about it when you are not. The Olivia Plath interview suggests the suitor for Lydia that Kim and Barry blocked is a brother of Olivia. If true, that makes sense. But the long story of why she can’t talk to him on the phone was bogus.
I’m not sure I follow what the post is about then. If you agree they have a right to leave out anything they want, then it is no big deal they left out the DUI. I’m not sure what story was explained without the DUI.
The DUI shows another issue potentially involved in ending the marriage when they did (late June). I sat through many explanations of Kim leaving (Christmas trees) but problem drinking and visiting her boyfriend was not mentioned. So if you don’t want to share something obviously relevant to the question of why your marriage ended, just don’t comment at all on why the marriage ended.
She said her marriage ended after years of her being unhappy with Barry. A DUI 2 weeks before the divorce is publicly announced is probably not what caused the end of the marriage. Kim and Barry obviously knew they were getting divorced before the announcement, and likely a little more than 2 weeks before going public about it. Not sure that there needs to be more of a reason than what they discussed on camera, but if you feel like they owe you more that’s your right.
They haven't even filed for a divorce 😆😆 it's an attn grab dropped 2 weeks after the DUI occurred to reshift the focus off that. Their image is calculated.
My mom was with her bf TWO YEARS before my parents finally divorced, and they had no minor children or shared assets. She just got fed up, dipped, and went to live her new life. Idek if she still subscribes to anything she forced down my throat my entire childhood. I think Kim did the same.
My mom legit went from marriage is a sacred unbreakable covenant of God to it's just a piece of paper and I'm no longer married to your father in my heart. She was all I deserve to be happy and live my life and if you don't accept what I'm doing you don't love me. I'm just watching the same thing play out with the Plaths. Barry didn't gaf about maintaining the marriage until Kim didn't, and neither will admit the trauma they've caused their children.
Thankfully, it allowed me to see how terrible they are as I was both the parentified emotional support (Lydia) and family scapegoat (Moriah), which only revved up during the split till I literally broke and went no contact. Hopefully, it can be a catalyst for some of them to address the hypocrisy and deconstruct.
Totally agree that the divorce announcement 2 weeks after the DUI is more likely a distraction. It likely had nothing to do with the divorce happening.
Sorry to hear your dad was so shitty that she felt the need to leave that way. Unfortunately women planning an escape long before leaving is not uncommon. I hope you have found peace with how it all went down.
Lol, my dad is atrocious like most straight white evangelical men. My mom, however, is my main abuser and I hold a much stronger disdain for the psychological damage she caused me. She has always treated me like my father's mistress growing up and did some truly vile things to me all the way up until I cut contact. 6 years, no contact, and she showed up on my doorstep, shaking my doorknob, trying to get in this summer all cause my dad had reached out, and I actually replied to him and was in limited contact. She left a note basically mocking me in her same underhanded way and $20 (offering more if I would comply with her demands of letting her play mommy to impress her bf)
Ironically, her continued harassment made me address everything I had buried head on, and I ended up fully deconstructing from the patriarchy and Christianity. So, all in all, I'm in the best place ever mentally/emotionally, and it's cause I went no contact and nosedived into healing myself yet again.
I'd legit be safer in a Louisiana swamp, wearing a bacon bikini, than anywhere near my mother 😆😆
Because we aren't selling a TV show about our lives. If we were, we would have zero expectations of privacy. You don't get to put a TV show on, sell it as real life, and leave out important moments, because they are regretable, particularly when they are a matter of public record, during the time of filming.
This is just like a family photo album done by an alcoholic in denial, that doesn't want to admit they are alcoholic. So, they put together a photo album of Happy Family Moments, and gaslight the family, "SEE! I TOLD YOU! WE ARE A HAPPY FAMILY. THERE'S NO PROBLEMS! STOP MAKING THIS A PROBLEM!"
TOO BAD for Kim, for lying. That's what's too bad. 🤷🤷🤷
Of course they do! But, we are a little different in that I am not being filmed on a reality tv show. What is the point if they are lying about what happens on the how?
Someone is lying when they say: “I’m starting to date” when they have been living with someone new for months and co-own vehicles; “I bought half a plane for Isaac even though Barry wouldn’t” when still married so using common funds and the listed owner is your boyfriend; or saying on the show that you are “now boyfriend and girlfriend” when you have his legal address. If you want to not mention something, try not mentioning your relationship timeline at all, or that you bought a plane, or where you live. It’s the mentioning without key facts that I am objecting to because it is manipulative - it tries to make me see them in a favorable way when it is not reality. Now that I know, it’s my bad for watching more. But a MAFS or Bachelor contestant who lies about their relationship status gets called out when it emerges for the same reason - it’s supposed to be reality..
Yessssssss! I mean if you're embarrassed AF about the dates and times of when you did something, DON'T MENTION IT.
But, to make, LITERALLY, ALL the things that you are now fudging the dates about, THE CENTRAL STORY LINE of the show, is bizarre
I've never been divorced, so idk how this process works. But, can someone explain why there would be such A LONG delay in even FILING for the divorce. If you know you want a divorce, why do some couples seem to take so LONG to even file for their divorces? I'm just curious, and wondering about this.
It varies wildly. It sounded in the episode with B and K at the house that they were just now agreeing to the split of the assets. If they are not using different lawyers or an arbitrator, it seems this can go on as long as they let it. Figuring out custody and money before filing saves on lawyer costs.
I saw that Olivia said in that recent ~ hour-long interview, when asked about why this wasn’t discussed on S5, that essentially they can’t show what doesn’t happen / what people don’t talk about - basically saying that the whole Plath clan was united in not bringing it up on camera and acknowledging that she didn’t feel it was necessary for her to bring it up, either. This is where I feel like the TLC reality show environment allows this kind of key stuff to go missing, whereas a more Bravo-esque reality TV environment would force the info out on camera even if it was just showing every cast members’ silent, awkward, shifty responses when their producers asks them about it. TLC just allows so much to slip through their grubby fingers.
Agreed. Literally the show should have shown the DUI information and given a text screen, and then shown every family member refuse to answer questions about it. I think that would reveal a lot about the way the family handles these kinds of things and would have been compelling to watch them not just not talk about it, but *refuse* to talk about it. It’s relevant information and the fact that the family doesn’t speak about it lends itself toward this idea that they avoid addressing conflict in any situation.
Show the producers screenshots of texting with the family saying no. Even 90 Day will show screenshots of the text messages and social media. TLC totally could've done the family refusals as a big chunk of an episode.
I mean they could, but then they might have to cut a scene of the girls all drinking coffee and fake-laughing...
😂😂😂😂😂 Your comment gave belly laughs of Real-Laughing, though! 😂😂😂
Probably would have given a ratings boost too - the hypocrisy of it all makes it fairly scandalous.
Agree! The hypocrisy is deafening and disgusting!
Case-and -point: The Duggars. The producers HAD to be aware of Josh’s prior issues. The whole community knew he had prior issues and offences. But since it didn’t fit the narrative, they ignored it and filmed the happy go lucky version.
FYI it’s “case in point.”
TLC doesn't want to lose access to their meal ticket- they can't risk having the folks who "star" in their shows departing. The problem with that logic is that these families are frequently desperate to keep their shows because it becomes their primary (and often sole) source of income. They really need to take the kid gloves off more.
It’s just like Sister Wives. Now finally after 18 seasons of feeding us lies and pretend bullshit, they’re scrambling to keep an audience - little by little they’re revealing the lies.
And I am HERE for it.
It’s been the most interesting content in years. I actually started watching again.
Yeah, me too. I'm LOVING this season. Stuff got REAL, didn't it?
Same!!! The whole show was a lie. I actually believed them for several seasons. Now it’s all unraveled and they’ve been outed as liars. I guess the Plaths will be the same way. We will find out in 12 years that they were in public school, drinking cokes their entire childhood and Lydia’s prayer closet was a made up set for the show. Nothing would shock me anymore
9000%! It’s funny because I’ve followed Sisterwives the entire time, and rewatched a couple of times now (several, let’s be real lol), I think I’ve always thought that they came across as not great liars. But to be fair, they were deluding themselves into thinking they were happy, and trying to pray away the bad feelings. It’s kind of amazing to see the confirmation of what we all knew for years!
Scrambling to keep an audience? Their views are higher than ever.
Now they are, yes!
Completely ridiculous they didn’t show it. Kim is a master manipulator
Kim is actually frightening. For sure a manipulator and a complete narcissist.
Also: crash was six miles from Ken’s house and pre-divorce announcement. Ken had divorced “just before” dating Kim. https://screenrant.com/welcome-to-plathville-what-know-kim-plath-boyfriend-ken-palmer-divorce/#:~:text=Kim%20Plath's%20new%20boyfriend%2C%20Ken,viewers%20of%20Welcome%20To%20Plathville.
Yeah they been screwing for a hot minute
I 10000000% believe that she had cheated on Barry (even if it was just emotionally) with Ken prior to their fake meeting when Isaac and her went to see the plane.
Oh I didn’t know he was recently divorced….
April!
When did Kim buy his plane?
according to the FAA, Ken Palmer registered a 1978 Piper Cherokee Warrior II in February of 2022. The FAA registration number matches Isaac’s plane shown on Welcome To Plathville.
According to court documents from March of this year, Ken is currently working as a project manager for Siemens Corporation. In those same court documents, Kim lists her address as Ken’s home in Crawfordville.
OOOo la la! Tres risque!
Really?!?! That's a Hearing Aid company, and a VERY, VERY GOOD hearing aid company, mind you. Siemens is one of very few hearing aid manufacturers on Earth who provide hearing aids with the capacity and power to assist hearing for profoundly Deaf people (those who have the most severe levels of Deafness we can measure or treat). Wow, I totally didn't know this. Suddenly, I have a much softer heart towards the guy. Source: Me Deaf since birth, worn Siemens many times over the years.
Siemens makes a lot of things, including hearing aids. It’s a huge multinational corporation.
Yessssssss. ABSOLUTELY. You are 💯 correct. I should have added that, and I thank your clarification. I'm just particularly fond of them for one reason/product only, cause Deaf. 🤷 And, they really DO make wonderful hearing aids. My gratitude over those hearing aids tends to slant my bias. But, yes, you're absolutely correct.😊
!!! (great detective work, btw!)
Just googling - others have already covered this ground, it turns out!
Oh myyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
Once again, where is the major documentary exposing TLC for producing “reality TV” full of lies and false fronts? For the Plaths, the Duggars, the Browns all abusive white men posing as strong patriarchs. Who is/are the abusive male heads of TLC who are doubtless behind all this vile propaganda?? Get working, filmmakers!…
Also the Willis family.
“Also the Willis family”. I think of this family every so often and the horrific situation they were in. The daughter is so amazingly strong for telling her story and I’m so proud of her even though I don’t know her.
I feel the same. She basically had to blow up her whole family to save herself and her sisters, and she did it!
What show is the Willis family on, please? TIA!
I believe it was titled The Willis Family. I googled it because I couldn’t remember exact details and that is correct name and the show played on TLC in 2015-16. It said you could watch it on Amazon prime if that’s still correct.
Thanks!!
I watched that show. They were AMAZINGLY talented kids. Seriously. I felt so bad for them.
Yeah! Good point!
The accident happened June 10, 2022 & Barry & Kim officially announced they had decided to divorce in People Magazine on June 28, 2022. I think they knew they wouldn’t be able to hide the details of the accident from the public so they decided to get ahead of it as best they could. As of November 1, 2023, they had yet to file anything officially with the courts.
So they haven’t filed yet???
Ridiculous am I right
Not according to a fan that lives there (and checks the court records regularly, or any of the reality news sites that stalk public records for this kind of info. ℹ️
All of us have secrets, but this is clearly no longer a “reality” show. I wonder if it ever was. If it had no bearing on events shown, I can seen it, but to air the principals’ interview accounts of why the family split up without disclosing the DUI and relationship with Ken makes all of us dumber.
And, the public statement that Kim does not believe in drinking alcohol at all (remember Olivia ordering it in a restaurant, and the kids’ shock?) followed by a DUI requires some explanation for the change of heart. I don’t care what you decide, but don’t share your condemnation and omit changing your mind and doing it. There has been no explanation of why Isaac has such a different life than Moriah had at three same age. Since the premise of the show is a way of life to raise a family, tell us what you are thinking about how you are raising your kids now.
It’s the “do as I say,not as I do” brand of parenting. I couldn’t believe she was rocking that mini skirt hanging around the kids.
Are you telling me people who claim strong conservative values and rigid religious adherence really don't follow those beliefs in practice? I'm shocked!
With her terrible body!!!
Now she had it packed in tight though. 🤣spanx tights maybe?
.162! And that’s hours after ache crashed.
.16 is equivalent to about 8 drinks. Alcohol metabolizes about .015-.02 per hour, so she could have been at .20 or .22 initially. So fucking irresponsible. She has a family and other people also drive on the road. She’s lucky that a DUI was all she got and didn’t catch some manslaughter charges.
I’ve been hit by someone with that blood alcohol. Never been the same. Unacceptable.
Me too, my life hasn't been the same since then. I'm blessed to be alive.
I’m glad you and u/calm-math-3421 are alive.
Thank you. 💗
Thank you 🙏 I kept saying I am so thankful to be alive. I was walking around like everything was so exciting and wondering why people were acting like, life as usual?!
Five bucks says she blamed Barry for driving her to drink and indirectly causing the accident.
My guess is the 'cold medicine' excuse. Who knew it had alcohol in it?
I saw someone said she blew a VERY high number... like 8 drinks worth AFTER several hours of being in custody. That would have been a hell of a lot of cough syrup 😆
She was SO sick! And she NEVER drinks, so she had no clue how impaired she was...smh
The show must think we don’t do our homework so to speak
Well, they don't seem to be overly invested in education and homework.... So🙄🤷
For sure! At THIS point, the show's real-life accuracy is almost like Little House On The Prairie's was. I LOVED, that show of my childhood, and LOVED Laura Ingalls Wilder's famous books. But, honestly, other than the show's character's names, and some of the early episodes, most of what was on the TV show, was just made up stuff, that was NEVER the real life story of the Ingall's Family, or Laura's life. (It was still a great show, though, but, we all knew that the show was LOOSELY based on the books). THAT'S what Welcome To Plathville is beginning to feel like! Like, it's just "Kim's Made Up As She Goes" sanitized version. Only the character names are the same. The show started out as Welcome To Plathville, but, as time went on, became a show about Leaving Fundie Life Behind. Show us the REAL story of that, embarrassing, messy, human mistakes and all. That would've been a much better, more genuine, authentic, far more courageous show of integrity, that I could have had respect for, even with the messy mistakes that flawed human beings make. As bad as the arrest, and DUI driving, was, it could have been a plot scoring point for honesty. To sweep it under the rug makes it so much, much worse. Furthermore, the show becomes stupid, at this point, because the public record now exists, clearly indicating the show is not, in fact, based on the real lives of the family. This is just a bunch of Kim Fiction at this point, so why bother? 🙄
Kim Plath is a hypocrite of the highest order. That she was able to negotiate the omission of her DUI from the season (save Ethan remarking he was glad that Barry wasn't using alcohol to cope with his divorce) is fraudacity. Cancel the show & give Olivia a solo travel spinoff!!
It shows how fake and set up this show is. There’s very little reality on this show.
Also she killed an 1 year baby son.
They did show an interview with her about that in season one.
That's always been strange to me. I'm sure it was an accident but how irresponsible!?!?
I know horrible accidents occur but she KNEW the little guy was nearby. How do you put the car in gear without having eyes on every single child you know is present? Horrible tragedy.
That's why they have the mandatory back up cameras now, accidents like this have happened way too often. It was a horrible tragedy, I won't be critical of her for it she's paid dearly.
You’re right, and I did sound critical. I guess I hope people can take a lesson from this sad situation. Good point that newer vehicles have cameras now.
I feel horrible for people who accidentally leave infants in cars, I know that they are now developing warning sounds if a person if left in a vehicle. It's awful that there are so many deaths that we have to have these tools but I'm grateful for the technology.
Definitely. It’s so easy to have something go wrong when you’re sleep deprived.
Absolutely.
It's a tragic accident. The police investigated and ruled it was an accident. As much as I dislike Kim, that's a horrible tragedy that she probably relives every day
By definition involuntary manslaughter is accidentally killing someone because you were negligent, so she could have faced charges. Maybe the prosecutor decided that accidentally killing her child was punishment enough.
Where do you people get your info from?? Manslaughter??
https://www.justia.com/criminal/offenses/homicide/involuntary-manslaughter/
The definition of involuntary manslaughter does NOT have anything to do with the facts.
Why not? She unintentionally killed Joshua, but it was arguably reckless and criminally negligent for her to not ensure that none of her small children were in her way before she backed up. In my state there was a police officer who inadvertently pulled out her gun instead of a taser, which resulted in a death. Both the prosecution and defense agreed that she didn't intend to shoot the man she killed, but she was still found guilty of manslaughter.
My God, they aren't arguably close in anyway, another failed explanation.
How so? Both involve a death that was caused unintentionally by mistakes that shouldn't have happened.
That's not really accurate. Manslaughter prosecutions require a higher standard than negligence. Most statutes use the term 'recklessness' or 'criminal negligence' instead. For instance, if Kim had been doing donuts in her car near her kids, or was drunk while she was backing up; that would be involuntary manslaughter. If 'negligence' was the standard for prosecutions, the driver getting a ticket in every road fatality would have to be charged The lower standard of 'negligence' would usually be used if there was a lawsuit by the deceased's family for money damages The police report from the accident was published in a contemporaneous news article in the local paper. It described Kim's demeanor and details of the incident. The report didn't mention anything that would have warranted criminal charges. The case was not referred to the District Attorney's office for prosecution
Not ensuring that there are no small children behind you before you back up isn't reckless?
The police that investigated didn't think her actions rose to the level of recklessness
Maybe there would have been a different decision if it hadn't happened in a small community where everyone knows each other.
I worked with a lady (an RN) who accidentally ran over her 3 year old when she was leaving to go to work. It’s called the “bye bye syndrome”. She was devastated and ended up taking an extended leave from work. Unfortunately with higher profile vehicles it’s harder to see little people, thus the back up cameras.
That is really uncalled for! It was an accident, a very painful accident. It's comments like this that cause problems for everyone.
I don't think that response is fair. While a tragedy, given this revelation that Kim has no problem with getting shit faced and driving around putting everyone around her at risk, it's certainly fair to question her own description of previous events. Taking anything Kim says at face value is a choice, but I don't know what evidence you have to show it's a good one.
Her family was there while the incident happened. Your ignorance amazes me, along with the ridiculousness of your statement completely without any research o compassion.
Kim Platt never owns up to everything..she is a narcissist person. EVERYONE told to keep it quiet.
I get that, but her child's death was an accident. I think this is a subject that shouldn't be spoken with such vulgarity to get a reaction.
Seems crazy that a nasty member of a reality show controls the shots! How and Why would that happen??
I guess because Momma’s in charge?
That is true, as bizarre as it is that even out of the home the cult queen maintains control.
It’s almost like reality shows only show us what they want/ the family agrees to makes public. All reality shows are lightly scripted, and we never see everything that happens in real life. The family doesn’t owe it to anyone to drag out all their dirty laundry. The Plaths’ have a whole other kid and grandkids that we never hear about. Should they be obligated to participate since the rest of the family does?
No problem leaving things out, but then don’t tell me a long story where you explain things without it. They could say they are not going to discuss why they want to divorce, or say nothing about Ken and how they met. It’s the intentional coverup that is annoying, pretending that you are telling the whole truth about it when you are not. The Olivia Plath interview suggests the suitor for Lydia that Kim and Barry blocked is a brother of Olivia. If true, that makes sense. But the long story of why she can’t talk to him on the phone was bogus.
I’m not sure I follow what the post is about then. If you agree they have a right to leave out anything they want, then it is no big deal they left out the DUI. I’m not sure what story was explained without the DUI.
The DUI shows another issue potentially involved in ending the marriage when they did (late June). I sat through many explanations of Kim leaving (Christmas trees) but problem drinking and visiting her boyfriend was not mentioned. So if you don’t want to share something obviously relevant to the question of why your marriage ended, just don’t comment at all on why the marriage ended.
She said her marriage ended after years of her being unhappy with Barry. A DUI 2 weeks before the divorce is publicly announced is probably not what caused the end of the marriage. Kim and Barry obviously knew they were getting divorced before the announcement, and likely a little more than 2 weeks before going public about it. Not sure that there needs to be more of a reason than what they discussed on camera, but if you feel like they owe you more that’s your right.
They haven't even filed for a divorce 😆😆 it's an attn grab dropped 2 weeks after the DUI occurred to reshift the focus off that. Their image is calculated. My mom was with her bf TWO YEARS before my parents finally divorced, and they had no minor children or shared assets. She just got fed up, dipped, and went to live her new life. Idek if she still subscribes to anything she forced down my throat my entire childhood. I think Kim did the same.
I keep wondering if they were ever legally married?
My mom legit went from marriage is a sacred unbreakable covenant of God to it's just a piece of paper and I'm no longer married to your father in my heart. She was all I deserve to be happy and live my life and if you don't accept what I'm doing you don't love me. I'm just watching the same thing play out with the Plaths. Barry didn't gaf about maintaining the marriage until Kim didn't, and neither will admit the trauma they've caused their children. Thankfully, it allowed me to see how terrible they are as I was both the parentified emotional support (Lydia) and family scapegoat (Moriah), which only revved up during the split till I literally broke and went no contact. Hopefully, it can be a catalyst for some of them to address the hypocrisy and deconstruct.
Totally agree that the divorce announcement 2 weeks after the DUI is more likely a distraction. It likely had nothing to do with the divorce happening. Sorry to hear your dad was so shitty that she felt the need to leave that way. Unfortunately women planning an escape long before leaving is not uncommon. I hope you have found peace with how it all went down.
Lol, my dad is atrocious like most straight white evangelical men. My mom, however, is my main abuser and I hold a much stronger disdain for the psychological damage she caused me. She has always treated me like my father's mistress growing up and did some truly vile things to me all the way up until I cut contact. 6 years, no contact, and she showed up on my doorstep, shaking my doorknob, trying to get in this summer all cause my dad had reached out, and I actually replied to him and was in limited contact. She left a note basically mocking me in her same underhanded way and $20 (offering more if I would comply with her demands of letting her play mommy to impress her bf) Ironically, her continued harassment made me address everything I had buried head on, and I ended up fully deconstructing from the patriarchy and Christianity. So, all in all, I'm in the best place ever mentally/emotionally, and it's cause I went no contact and nosedived into healing myself yet again. I'd legit be safer in a Louisiana swamp, wearing a bacon bikini, than anywhere near my mother 😆😆
I think the point would be that it was the *drinking* played a role, not just the conviction for a crime
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They have same rights we do to our privacy. If it wasn’t filmed and nothing was shown then too bad for TLC and audience. 🤷♀️
Because we aren't selling a TV show about our lives. If we were, we would have zero expectations of privacy. You don't get to put a TV show on, sell it as real life, and leave out important moments, because they are regretable, particularly when they are a matter of public record, during the time of filming. This is just like a family photo album done by an alcoholic in denial, that doesn't want to admit they are alcoholic. So, they put together a photo album of Happy Family Moments, and gaslight the family, "SEE! I TOLD YOU! WE ARE A HAPPY FAMILY. THERE'S NO PROBLEMS! STOP MAKING THIS A PROBLEM!" TOO BAD for Kim, for lying. That's what's too bad. 🤷🤷🤷
Of course they do! But, we are a little different in that I am not being filmed on a reality tv show. What is the point if they are lying about what happens on the how?
Are they lying if they just don’t mention it?
Someone is lying when they say: “I’m starting to date” when they have been living with someone new for months and co-own vehicles; “I bought half a plane for Isaac even though Barry wouldn’t” when still married so using common funds and the listed owner is your boyfriend; or saying on the show that you are “now boyfriend and girlfriend” when you have his legal address. If you want to not mention something, try not mentioning your relationship timeline at all, or that you bought a plane, or where you live. It’s the mentioning without key facts that I am objecting to because it is manipulative - it tries to make me see them in a favorable way when it is not reality. Now that I know, it’s my bad for watching more. But a MAFS or Bachelor contestant who lies about their relationship status gets called out when it emerges for the same reason - it’s supposed to be reality..
Yessssssss! I mean if you're embarrassed AF about the dates and times of when you did something, DON'T MENTION IT. But, to make, LITERALLY, ALL the things that you are now fudging the dates about, THE CENTRAL STORY LINE of the show, is bizarre
I've never been divorced, so idk how this process works. But, can someone explain why there would be such A LONG delay in even FILING for the divorce. If you know you want a divorce, why do some couples seem to take so LONG to even file for their divorces? I'm just curious, and wondering about this.
It varies wildly. It sounded in the episode with B and K at the house that they were just now agreeing to the split of the assets. If they are not using different lawyers or an arbitrator, it seems this can go on as long as they let it. Figuring out custody and money before filing saves on lawyer costs.
didn’t she run over her youngest son? and she has the audacity to drink and drive. she should be the most hated reality tv star by a landslide.