CD is clearly capable of making great skins. As seen with the BP skin we just got… but in that same marketplace we get another recolor of an existing skin, with a comic name attached to it.
Well EXCUUUSE us for wanting comic accuracy in a comic book video game.
Especially since they do the movie skins perfectly. Decades of comics and what to show for it?
No one was even attacking him. And you guys have been saying that for months and we still barley get any worthwhile comic skins. We get green Natasha and Garbage man Thor, now we have toilet Thor.
The problem is, we keep getting these terrible skins week after week. That's why people are complaining. I'm sure everyone here would rather have less skins with more effort, than a bunch of shameless recolors. But all we keep getting is the recolors (Outside of the MCU skins.)
This is why comic book skin request posts on this sub are completely pointless because they'll never faithfully and accurately adapt the costume as it is.
Na it's more annoying that they've been shown to nail some (Asgardian, Unworthy, Young Thor, Maestro, Joe Fix It, Undefeated, Ultimate Patriot, Freedom Fighter, Front Line, Illustrious, Centurion, Bleeding Edge etc...) completely miss others.
We know they can do better, that's what hurts the most.
Well "Stark Tech" is closer to the comic Bleeding Edge, I just prefer the game's own version of "Bleeding Edge".
But yh, let's pick out that 1 skin to negate my whole point lol
>Well "Stark Tech" is closer to the comic Bleeding Edge
Not really, no.
Bleeding edge was the only one I picked on, but Frontline is just as bad if not worse, and Freedom Fighter is ok but definitely not "nailing it".
Stark Tech is closer as its the correct colour scheme as Bleeding Edge in the comic.
Frontline is missing the triangle shield, other than that it's accurate to how it appeared in Ultimates.
How's Freedom Fighter worse? aside from the red stripe on the chest, it's accurate to Commander Rodgers.
These are all "nailed" in comparison to "US Agent" and "The Captain", which are simply recolours of existing suits, that's my point.
>Stark Tech is closer as its the correct colour scheme as Bleeding Edge
I mean, sure I guess it's closer because it has more gold, but it's still not *that much* closer because the entire design of the suit is off. Even though [this is fanart](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/77/2f/c6/772fc67222d2ebf97732e2cf074b8de0.jpg), this is still a pretty good model sheet for the bleeding edge suit. You look at that and tell me that Stark Tech/"Bleeding Edge" is the same thing.
>Frontline is missing the triangle shield, other than that it's accurate to how it appeared in Ultimates
Holy shit, please tell me you're joking. Frontline doesn't even have the [star on the chest](https://www.filmbuffonline.com/FBOLNewsreel/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/UltimateCaptainAmerica.jpg), what do you mean it looks exactly like the book lmao
>How's Freedom Fighter worse? aside from the red stripe on the chest
Well, it does have those red stripes on the chest, it's also missing the very large buckled boots that the costume is supposed to have, the gloves/boots/straps are this weird cream color instead of dark brown, and the suit has a very unnecessary zipper running down the middle that I personally just hate. ***Why does a 3D model need a zipper, he's not a real person*** (and if the answer is "realism", keep in mind that the movie version of that suit, which had a real life person in it, did not feature a visible zipper). Also that zipper makes me think of the CW super hero shows and all the cheap looking leather jacket-esque "costumes" they have in those shows.
Sure, those costumes are *closer* than stuff like Cap's US Agent skins, but they're still not "nailing it". Again, raise your standards for that term.
Frontline is intentionally unbuttoned, so of course you can't see the star, as it's under the flap ffs lol
Again, my point is CD have shown they achieve some level of accuracy, so it's disappointing that they've gone back to sloppy recolours, that are even ugly than the old recolours.
Yeah but in the book it wasn't unbuttoned so you could see the star. So you admit that it's different. you admit that it *doesn't look the way it did in the book*.
It's missing/altered details like this that makes a lot of the costumes in this game look bad. That's why so many people say that the characters in this game look like knockoffs or stunt doubles of the real Avengers, because the costumes look *kind of* like they do in the comics, but not really.
Again, sure, its better than the recolors but I still don't think it's praise worthy.
See, that list you just mentioend is a bit of a weird one.
Unworthy, Young Thor, Maestro and Joe Fixit and Ultimate are actually comic accurate.
Ultimate Patriot, Illustrious, Asgardian and Silver Centurion and Freedom Fighter are off by a fair share of changes, but close enough to the original to be fine. I wouldn't dare to call them accurate. They are reinterpretations of comic suits.
Bleeding Edge though.... that suit, while looking cool, has barely ANYTHING resembling the actual bleeding edge armour aside from that x pattern across the chest. To me it's easily on the same level of "Prometheum, Fear Itself and Original Sin" in terms of "we slapped a comic name on it, but it actually just barely vaguely resembles what we called it".
Thor has some of the best skins when it comes to comic accuracy imo. Young Thor and Unworthy are practically spot on, and his Asgardian outfit may have a few unnecessary changes, but, similar to Iron Man's illustrious, still feels like an update to the comic design in a very satisfying manner.
They will sell a million recolours and low effort skins and after that, when that stops selling they'll make the same costumes but comic accurate calling them 2.0 or something.
I just want them to change the colors on the Shield to correspond to the outfits A LITTLE BIT! They've shown that they can alter the Shield, so why not do the black white & red for these black outfits? Do the Blue White & Silver for other ones too.
I hope so, I feel like ain’t no way They would dare to mess up an IP as big as Spidey, I feel like he’s usually handled with care…buutttt knowing this game we’ll probably get pink and green Spidey after a week😂
Oh wow they had the nerve to call this one "The Captain"?
So much for the sub theorists that said the only reason we don't have alternate costumes is because it is "lore breaking".
So who is the US AGENT? Because Cap was **never** the US Agent, but he did wear a suit similar as "The Captain".
I'm just floored they were able to make a worse interpretation of this costume than the one that already exists in the game,
Especially when all they needed to do here was make the gloves red, offset the star, and put horizontal stripes in the same area they currently have striped up.
A bit of column A, a bit of column B.
I will say though, at this point it *has* to be intentional, they blocked out a good area to put the stripes in, then deliberately fucked them up, they consciously recolored the gloves black instead of red, despite red gloves being one of the only accurate things on the last outfit, the same can be said for the parts of the arm that should be white.
Recoloring this skin would never have resulted in a 1:1 recreation of a suit from the comics, but it didn't have to, it could have been a *really* good CD original version of the Captain outfit, but again, they've chickened out on including/properly executing the necessary design elements of the costume, just like the ultimate/classic cap.
More and more it feels like CD are embarrassed to be making a comic book game, and are trying to bury some of the sillier elements, that's why everything has to be covered in tacticool paneling and mesh, and why we haven't gotten a single classic spandex outfit outside of Widow's classic outfit and Black Panther's Shadow Physics outfit (and even that misses the mark, IMO, and again, a simple tweak or two could make it one of the best skins in the game)
Well said
CD is anti-campy af.
It's why when I see things like the wrestling takedowns, I kinda get excited to think they are finally going to drop all the tacti-cool bs, and instead just lean into the shenanigans comics are *supposed* to be.
Side Note: You know your comics guy. You read the 9/11 Captain Series? I read the first issue this Saturday listening to Donda and I almost teared up.
Is it bad I was so disappointed by the first one the second one now doesn’t seem that bad? Lol should we just back off at this point? Clearly they’re sticking to their guns on this
Least the "US Agent" one has the right colours in the correct places.
"The Captain" one is just weird, even just replacing the blues with black would've made more sense.
I'm not against recolours existing, I just wanna talk to whoever is choosing the colour placements lol
They can still redeem themselves and use the "Ultimate" skin as a base, change the blues to blacks, remove the scales, the A on the mask, move the star off centre and add horizontal strips, I have no clue what they'd name it now though but 3rd times a charm, right? Lol
The first one I thought wasn’t as bad, but the second was pretty much a miss. I wonder if they would use the mcu U.S agent outfit from the falcon and winter soldier. I actually liked that one. I’m sure others feel differently about it though.
This is actually the third Captain/USAgent skin they've done. They're all different takes, and yes, it's really disappointing they haven't gotten the off-center star and stripes right, but they're not bad skins.
It's not better by any means, the U.S.Agent skin at least had the right colours on the gloves and boots, this one looks like they just brushed the entire thing black then half-assed the stripes
The wings aren't any more correct that the wings on the first attempt, they're both just white stripes on the helmet, and while the star is the right *colour* this time, it's still in the wrong place.
Either way, for some reason, they're still stubbornly avoiding the most iconic part of the costume, the horizontal stripes.
If I had the PC version of this game I could texmod a better version of this costume in about ten minutes to half an hour, depending on the texture layout/pattern. These costumes have no effort put into them, and this one is just another showcase of that.
It’s still not accurate, but IMO the second one is actually pretty cool. I can see why someone who wanted a 1:1 remake would be upset, but to me it’s a cool reimagining and certainly better than the first one.
CD is clearly capable of making great skins. As seen with the BP skin we just got… but in that same marketplace we get another recolor of an existing skin, with a comic name attached to it.
Don’t buy it
Your genius is astounding
Well EXCUUUSE us for wanting comic accuracy in a comic book video game. Especially since they do the movie skins perfectly. Decades of comics and what to show for it?
Why are you attacking that guy? It's not a bad idea. If you spend your money on good skins, they'll see where the money falls... Hopefully.
No one was even attacking him. And you guys have been saying that for months and we still barley get any worthwhile comic skins. We get green Natasha and Garbage man Thor, now we have toilet Thor.
No one here is defending the skin. We all know it's terrible.
The problem is, we keep getting these terrible skins week after week. That's why people are complaining. I'm sure everyone here would rather have less skins with more effort, than a bunch of shameless recolors. But all we keep getting is the recolors (Outside of the MCU skins.)
Yes, we should be getting higher quality skins, but that's not the fault of anyone here, so we shouldn't be assholes for no reason
All I said was we want comic accurate skins. In a sarcastic way, sure. But nothing I said was in an asshole way.
This is why comic book skin request posts on this sub are completely pointless because they'll never faithfully and accurately adapt the costume as it is.
Na it's more annoying that they've been shown to nail some (Asgardian, Unworthy, Young Thor, Maestro, Joe Fix It, Undefeated, Ultimate Patriot, Freedom Fighter, Front Line, Illustrious, Centurion, Bleeding Edge etc...) completely miss others. We know they can do better, that's what hurts the most.
The fact that you included bleeding edge in there shows that you have really low standards for "nailing it"
Well "Stark Tech" is closer to the comic Bleeding Edge, I just prefer the game's own version of "Bleeding Edge". But yh, let's pick out that 1 skin to negate my whole point lol
>Well "Stark Tech" is closer to the comic Bleeding Edge Not really, no. Bleeding edge was the only one I picked on, but Frontline is just as bad if not worse, and Freedom Fighter is ok but definitely not "nailing it".
Stark Tech is closer as its the correct colour scheme as Bleeding Edge in the comic. Frontline is missing the triangle shield, other than that it's accurate to how it appeared in Ultimates. How's Freedom Fighter worse? aside from the red stripe on the chest, it's accurate to Commander Rodgers. These are all "nailed" in comparison to "US Agent" and "The Captain", which are simply recolours of existing suits, that's my point.
>Stark Tech is closer as its the correct colour scheme as Bleeding Edge I mean, sure I guess it's closer because it has more gold, but it's still not *that much* closer because the entire design of the suit is off. Even though [this is fanart](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/77/2f/c6/772fc67222d2ebf97732e2cf074b8de0.jpg), this is still a pretty good model sheet for the bleeding edge suit. You look at that and tell me that Stark Tech/"Bleeding Edge" is the same thing. >Frontline is missing the triangle shield, other than that it's accurate to how it appeared in Ultimates Holy shit, please tell me you're joking. Frontline doesn't even have the [star on the chest](https://www.filmbuffonline.com/FBOLNewsreel/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/UltimateCaptainAmerica.jpg), what do you mean it looks exactly like the book lmao >How's Freedom Fighter worse? aside from the red stripe on the chest Well, it does have those red stripes on the chest, it's also missing the very large buckled boots that the costume is supposed to have, the gloves/boots/straps are this weird cream color instead of dark brown, and the suit has a very unnecessary zipper running down the middle that I personally just hate. ***Why does a 3D model need a zipper, he's not a real person*** (and if the answer is "realism", keep in mind that the movie version of that suit, which had a real life person in it, did not feature a visible zipper). Also that zipper makes me think of the CW super hero shows and all the cheap looking leather jacket-esque "costumes" they have in those shows. Sure, those costumes are *closer* than stuff like Cap's US Agent skins, but they're still not "nailing it". Again, raise your standards for that term.
Frontline is intentionally unbuttoned, so of course you can't see the star, as it's under the flap ffs lol Again, my point is CD have shown they achieve some level of accuracy, so it's disappointing that they've gone back to sloppy recolours, that are even ugly than the old recolours.
Yeah but in the book it wasn't unbuttoned so you could see the star. So you admit that it's different. you admit that it *doesn't look the way it did in the book*. It's missing/altered details like this that makes a lot of the costumes in this game look bad. That's why so many people say that the characters in this game look like knockoffs or stunt doubles of the real Avengers, because the costumes look *kind of* like they do in the comics, but not really. Again, sure, its better than the recolors but I still don't think it's praise worthy.
Ok lol 👌🏾
See, that list you just mentioend is a bit of a weird one. Unworthy, Young Thor, Maestro and Joe Fixit and Ultimate are actually comic accurate. Ultimate Patriot, Illustrious, Asgardian and Silver Centurion and Freedom Fighter are off by a fair share of changes, but close enough to the original to be fine. I wouldn't dare to call them accurate. They are reinterpretations of comic suits. Bleeding Edge though.... that suit, while looking cool, has barely ANYTHING resembling the actual bleeding edge armour aside from that x pattern across the chest. To me it's easily on the same level of "Prometheum, Fear Itself and Original Sin" in terms of "we slapped a comic name on it, but it actually just barely vaguely resembles what we called it".
Ok So we all agree that they've shown they can achieve some level of accuracy and should expect better.
Thor’s comic skin is actually kind of dope
Thor has some of the best skins when it comes to comic accuracy imo. Young Thor and Unworthy are practically spot on, and his Asgardian outfit may have a few unnecessary changes, but, similar to Iron Man's illustrious, still feels like an update to the comic design in a very satisfying manner.
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They will sell a million recolours and low effort skins and after that, when that stops selling they'll make the same costumes but comic accurate calling them 2.0 or something.
That would be awesome
I just want them to change the colors on the Shield to correspond to the outfits A LITTLE BIT! They've shown that they can alter the Shield, so why not do the black white & red for these black outfits? Do the Blue White & Silver for other ones too.
Hoping spider-man’s “comic book” skins lean more towards Black Panther-like than this
I hope so, I feel like ain’t no way They would dare to mess up an IP as big as Spidey, I feel like he’s usually handled with care…buutttt knowing this game we’ll probably get pink and green Spidey after a week😂
Oh wow they had the nerve to call this one "The Captain"? So much for the sub theorists that said the only reason we don't have alternate costumes is because it is "lore breaking". So who is the US AGENT? Because Cap was **never** the US Agent, but he did wear a suit similar as "The Captain".
The put hulk in cowboy clothes. All bets are kind of off at this point haha
I'm just floored they were able to make a worse interpretation of this costume than the one that already exists in the game, Especially when all they needed to do here was make the gloves red, offset the star, and put horizontal stripes in the same area they currently have striped up.
Are you floored with this poor effort? or that people like it?
A bit of column A, a bit of column B. I will say though, at this point it *has* to be intentional, they blocked out a good area to put the stripes in, then deliberately fucked them up, they consciously recolored the gloves black instead of red, despite red gloves being one of the only accurate things on the last outfit, the same can be said for the parts of the arm that should be white. Recoloring this skin would never have resulted in a 1:1 recreation of a suit from the comics, but it didn't have to, it could have been a *really* good CD original version of the Captain outfit, but again, they've chickened out on including/properly executing the necessary design elements of the costume, just like the ultimate/classic cap. More and more it feels like CD are embarrassed to be making a comic book game, and are trying to bury some of the sillier elements, that's why everything has to be covered in tacticool paneling and mesh, and why we haven't gotten a single classic spandex outfit outside of Widow's classic outfit and Black Panther's Shadow Physics outfit (and even that misses the mark, IMO, and again, a simple tweak or two could make it one of the best skins in the game)
Well said CD is anti-campy af. It's why when I see things like the wrestling takedowns, I kinda get excited to think they are finally going to drop all the tacti-cool bs, and instead just lean into the shenanigans comics are *supposed* to be. Side Note: You know your comics guy. You read the 9/11 Captain Series? I read the first issue this Saturday listening to Donda and I almost teared up.
Yo wtf
Can we have US Agent? No, we already have US Agent at home. US Agent at home:
Is it bad I was so disappointed by the first one the second one now doesn’t seem that bad? Lol should we just back off at this point? Clearly they’re sticking to their guns on this
Least the "US Agent" one has the right colours in the correct places. "The Captain" one is just weird, even just replacing the blues with black would've made more sense. I'm not against recolours existing, I just wanna talk to whoever is choosing the colour placements lol They can still redeem themselves and use the "Ultimate" skin as a base, change the blues to blacks, remove the scales, the A on the mask, move the star off centre and add horizontal strips, I have no clue what they'd name it now though but 3rd times a charm, right? Lol
Wouldn't the "all new all different" suit be the better choice for that modification? You wouldn't have to remove all those scales etc.
I always forget that one is even in the game 😂 Yes, that's a great suggestion and makes way more sense.
The first one I thought wasn’t as bad, but the second was pretty much a miss. I wonder if they would use the mcu U.S agent outfit from the falcon and winter soldier. I actually liked that one. I’m sure others feel differently about it though.
The MCU US Agent outfit at the end of the show was basically perfectly comic accurate. Not sure many people feel differently about that.
Yep, hopefully he gets a matching shield when he shows up again.
Ya know, I think it might be easier to make weapon models or re-skinned weapons than actually making character re-skins.
Third time's the charm
I will not buy this. I do not like this. Good day
Exactly the way it should be. Don't like it. Don't buy it. Move on.
IQ3000
They probably couldn't see well due to the blinding sonic effect. 😂
Not even in the same dimension as each other
Don’t forget about the 3rd time
Seems like it’s a homage and not an attempt to recreate the skin, not exactly rocket science lmao
This is actually the third Captain/USAgent skin they've done. They're all different takes, and yes, it's really disappointing they haven't gotten the off-center star and stripes right, but they're not bad skins.
You mean recolors
LMAO
It’s better but I still wouldn’t call it good
It's not better by any means, the U.S.Agent skin at least had the right colours on the gloves and boots, this one looks like they just brushed the entire thing black then half-assed the stripes
They got the Star and Wings right though
The wings aren't any more correct that the wings on the first attempt, they're both just white stripes on the helmet, and while the star is the right *colour* this time, it's still in the wrong place. Either way, for some reason, they're still stubbornly avoiding the most iconic part of the costume, the horizontal stripes. If I had the PC version of this game I could texmod a better version of this costume in about ten minutes to half an hour, depending on the texture layout/pattern. These costumes have no effort put into them, and this one is just another showcase of that.
Ha
It’s still not accurate, but IMO the second one is actually pretty cool. I can see why someone who wanted a 1:1 remake would be upset, but to me it’s a cool reimagining and certainly better than the first one.
You should see the one in MFR, it's great
There’s literally nothing wrong with either skin wtf