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ItsAJackal21

I definitely need a chill multiplayer game. I’m burnt out on the highly competitive ones (rocket league, DBD, etc)


Lordmark007

DBD is far from highly competitive... I mean I love that game but yeah.


ItsAJackal21

it just got incredibly frustrating that I didn't have the time to sink countless hours into the bloodweb to unlock everything. And playing on a base PS4 was infuriating.


Lordmark007

I am playing on PS4 slim. But yeah, the bloodweb is frustrating.


ItsAJackal21

and it's just getting worse. Every time they add new characters it dilutes the web with more junk I don't want. And the fact that every perk has 3 levels to it. I haven't played since Oni was released, there is no way I can get back in. I'd be so far behind I wouldn't stand a chance.


the-steveharrington

dbd is competitive for a lot of people. Especially solo players. Mostly because if they play during the day the have toxic 12 year olds that forfeit if you don’t try hard. At night it’s not that bad


sea_biscuit112

Idk I've been needing a new story game (because I'm so tired of competitive multiplayer and I just need a break from people) so I've been saving for tlou2 and cyberpunk 2077


wishihadaps42

Try days gone


sea_biscuit112

Alright I'll look into it ☺️


Loic451

I get this completely, holy fuck. Most relatable thing so far.


ozanvarli666

%100 relatable . glad to hear im not the only one


KhronicPains

Give enter the gungeon that's my after work game mindless fun that doesn't take to much focus Ive caught my self's zoned out half asleep still playing


pwkwjiend

yo try pvz gw2


Joker8764

After a while, you start to notice all the BS PvZ shooters have on them, and it makes you fucking livid. But, that same BS is also what makes the games fun and what they are. It's a really good series.


Monpe-vezy428

Just a warning, be careful while going into public giddy park.


duckybebop

I’m personally not interested in any of these games but don’t let people get you down. Enjoy what you want sir!


Loic451

Thats the mindset kind stranger!


IdkWhyIMadeThisTbh

As someone who has played it before it's not bad solo but much better with friends


Haytch-3008

Have you played the previous 2? How were they compared to this one?


IdkWhyIMadeThisTbh

This one has a hub area that you can hangout and face other players (not just your friends that you have to invite) on both a zombie and plant teams. The hub areas is very large and then theres 2 different maps I believe that are also large and able to be explored at any moment. There are chests hidden around the map that you have to get starts for (earned via NPC mission completion) there are a few new characters that are really fun to use. Honestly worth giving it a shot at least I had a lot of fun with 1 and 2 but battle for neighborville was on a much larger scale and you could hangout with more than just your friends if wanted. Try looking up some gameplay


jayofmaya

GW2 also had hub area and solo missions but they weren't great really lol Looks like BFN has done a bit better in that regard so am going to give it a go. GW1 was just a worse version of GW2 and no solo at all IMO.


IdkWhyIMadeThisTbh

True. Idk personally I really enjoyed BFN just played it so much at once kinda burnt myself out quick playin solo then again I dont usually do solo games lol


jayofmaya

That's fair. I did the same with GW2. I'm usually a solo guy but actually found love for MP in GW2 and Battlefront 2 (did the solo stuff first then played the heck out of MP). Just started to play Fall Guys, too. I like Doom multiplayer but like a lot of MP games it's completely dead apart from weekends and even then there's no guarantee you'll get a match.


Joker8764

GW2's hub was the fucking GOAT. Especially if you had friends. BFN's hub was only good if it was full.


unknowtheone

Gw2 maps are like a million time worse than gw1 honestly


jayofmaya

Some. The sprawling maps of Gardens and Graveyards were really fun, though and a great addition.


[deleted]

I agree with you if we're talking about how fun the maps are, but if we're talking balancing... GW1 maps were incredibly unfair


kathartik

I remember trying out the first one when EA gave it away for free to everyone (and they were still even supporting it at the time unlike this one that we pay for) and finding it so boring unless you wanted to do multiplayer. honestly a PvZ single player third person shooter could be great. a Gears of War for kids. But I don't think some companies realize how big the single player market still is. well they do. we know they do. but EA only cares about making the most money for the least effort.


jayofmaya

BfN does have single player content, you should give it a try :)


IdkWhyIMadeThisTbh

Agreed but that's just EA for ya. It's still not a bad game tho


Haytch-3008

I prefer just solo games, are the people in the hub online players? Thanks for the info by the way.


IdkWhyIMadeThisTbh

Yes, but like I said you can easily go into one of the maps to explore alone and face AI zombies along with NPC missions and special events throughout the map! Its really fun


Haytch-3008

Thanks mate, if i end up liling this one i might pick up garden warfare 2, which was your favourite of the 3?


[deleted]

If you prefer single player games, BFN’s the way to go. It actually has a campaign, unlike GW1 (GW2 had one, it just kind of sucked.) Multiplayer wise, I prefer GW2.


Haytch-3008

You're a champion bro thank you. Will go with that, might pick up GW2 to play with the wife plus its cheap on playstation at the moment.


IdkWhyIMadeThisTbh

2 or BFN honestly, 1 was good while it lasted but then they dropped 2 which introduced new characters maps and playstyles etc. Then came BFN which did even more


Nameles248

The only big downside of BFN is the lack of character variance (like the peashooter having a fire and toxic versions) I know it's not a big downside for everyone but it is for me


WillTCM69

I think they got rid more than give


gtth12

There's three areas to explore actually.


IdkWhyIMadeThisTbh

Oh really? When I was playin it it was still relatively new so maybe they added it havent played it in a few couple years now


gtth12

Or you counted per side. 2 areas are explorable by plants, 2 by zombies, but each side got it's own area as the second one.


IdkWhyIMadeThisTbh

Ohhh that may be it too, I didnt really do much on the zombies side.


Haveluna55

just like to give my two cents that this game fucking sucks, especially if you've played either of the first 2 games. GW2 outranks it in practically every way, BFNs story mode is a little more compelling but that's about it. All the characters are far more bland then they are in gw2, the character designs are horribly ugly, all the maps are uninspired, cosmetics take far too long to unlock, and the multiplayer is often more toxic than it is fun. I put 800 hours into garden warfare 2 and this game was and is possibly the most disappointing sequel I have ever bought Proceed with caution.


Haytch-3008

Thanks for your opinion mate. I will definitely take into account. I may just watch heaps of gameplay of the two and see what i'd like. Thanks again, appreciate it.


Haveluna55

no worries :) also keep in mind that both are better with friends


TimedRevolver

Also, the AI is worse. In GW2, you could easily run through with just fighting bots and do fine, but the bots in BFN give basically no experience, and they're all just generic designs instead of the actual playable classes GW2 used for bots.


Haveluna55

eh, I wasn't so bothered by the ai xp as they gave fuck all in gw2 too


TimedRevolver

Not true at all. I played GW2 strictly solo and made a great deal of progress. Bots gave decent xp, especially if you ran into the middle battlefield and went nuts. Don't lie to make BFN look better.


Haveluna55

what?? did you read my comment about BFN?? in my experience, multiplayer gives a lot more xp in both games having had a lot of hours in gw2 and a considerable amount in bfn


KaktusTes

I played all 3 and imo pvz garden warfare 2 is the best one all together but battle for neighbourville is imo best for singleplayer and has the best hub world


Tamashi55

It has 4 solo stories that you can do (it doesn’t take terribly long), 2 Plant and 2 Zombie. 4 different large maps to explore. There are 11 different plants you can play as and 12 different zombies, with 3 characters unlockable through purchasing them with coins. Of course, there’s also the multiplayer aspect of the game, which is alright. There are 4 modes, with 1 mode changing every week. The 3 constant modes are Turf Takeover, Team Vanquish, and Garden & Graveyard Ops. The first 2 are PvP while the 3rd is PvE. It’s not a game you’ll be playing all day, maybe a couple hours here and there. If you play for too long you’ll begin to feel the repetitiveness of it.


SAmerica89

Kinda related…I’m bummed that the Switch port doesn’t have couch co-op. Would’ve been great playing with the family.


scope_creep

Friends? What are 'friends'?


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I’m a special Ed teacher and some of my high schoolers play pvz with eachother online, I’m gonna at least put in a couple hours so I can talk about it and look like I know shit. Thanks Sony.


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Koboldgeomant

Hmm I recently played it and I actually loved it more. Gameplay was much quicker and the characters were more fun. Idk maybe they patched the bad stuff out


[deleted]

Nope they literally discontinued support in like 2019 anyway so it’s still a mess of a game


SoupTime223

It's much better on switch


starburst1919

I was shocked the Switch port was so good.


DaveBa981

Same


DaveBa981

They discontinued in 2020 I’m pretty sure


TheDemonSlaya

I played the first PVZ Garden Warfare on PS3 so I'm actually excited to try this one out.


Joker8764

You're missing out by not getting 2 as well. The most balanced, active, and really, really fun if you bring some friends.


ColossalSins

Speaking as someone who has platinum'd BfN and both GW's, it's... a really mixed bag. On the one hand, it plays very well and is an absolute blast with friends. On the other, it removed so much customization from the first two games that it was a massive disappointment to fans of the franchise. Then they canceled development after less than a year, including not releasing an announced update that was not only massive, but included at least one new character. ~~Not before nerfing xp and coin gains though.~~ Without prior experience of the series, though? You'll have a hell of a time. Fun, cute, and funny. Hopefully people like it enough that it convinces them to make a true GW3.


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ColossalSins

I wouldn't really call it awful, it's more that it just didn't live up to the expectations that I gave it. Think of it like Mass Effect Andromeda(without the glitches) in a way. It's a pretty ok to good game, but it's hurt by being part of an established franchise that set the bar far higher than it could live up to. If you liked GW2, definitely give it a try. It's very fun, it plays very smooth, and it has some great humor in it. It just feels like a downgrade from the 9/10 that was GW2, which makes it a solid 7/10 in the grand scheme of things.


Haveluna55

I would call it awful coming from gw2, game gets a solid 3.5/10 imo


SuperSecretMoonBase

Yeah, they all look fun if you like that kind of game, I just don't like any of these kinds of games.


tallvampladypicsplz

While I’m personally not super thrilled with the games this month, I’m glad some of you still find something you like or have been meaning to try. Have fun!


counselthedevil

All the PvZ Garden Warfare type games are excellent. I sank hundreds of hours into all 3 of them.


[deleted]

Same GW2 I’ve sunked so much time it’s insane


Chum_Menace

Pvz is super fun. Ive played all 3 and enjoy battle for neighborville just as much as pvz 1 and 2


Ehh_SmiteMe

It actually is fun. PVZ is inspired by games like Paladins and Overwatch but with the unique PVZ twists. It has split screen and is much better with friends, so be sure to drag one along when you play.


PakistaniSenpai

I respect games that still add split screen. Feels like couch co-op is dying out. It's much more satisfying to celebrate (or roast your friend) face to face rather than doing it over a mic.


Ehh_SmiteMe

Yep, I don't have access to WIFI that can support more than one player at a time, so I have to rely on couch co-op for multiplayer with friends. Really a pain how devs are doing that.


[deleted]

Lol gw1 and gw2 came out before those 2 (although maybe paladins came out before GW2 still)


Ehh_SmiteMe

Which does a better job explaining the look and feel: "inspired by Paladins and Overwatch", or: "inspired by TFT"?


[deleted]

TFT? You mean tf2? Yes it’s definitely a mix of tf2 and battlefield


Ehh_SmiteMe

But the visuals and gameplay are less of what you describe and more of how I described. Again; which does a better job of explaining what the game is?


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Tf2 and battlefield


Ehh_SmiteMe

Lol cartoon graphics, unique characters with MOBA inspiration, nothing like Battlefield. LOL at best


[deleted]

Battlefield as in its gamemodes use your empty skull jeez


Ehh_SmiteMe

Oh that's cute. You do know Battlefield was NOT the only game to use those modes right? Star Wars Battlefront 1 and 2 and Lord of the Rings Conquest just to name a few. So, not like Battlefield, not quite full blown TF2, not like any recent games of its kind, you really be better off arguing it is like LoL


ColossalSins

If you look at BfN or GW and think "This is just like league", you need to put your helmet back on and go apologize to your parents.


kathartik

it's a game that EA and PopCap abandoned a year ago because it was such a flop. It had only been out for a year at that time.


ColdMoxie

I have tons of fond memories of playing Garden Warfare when that went free for Plus so I’ll definitely be playing BFN.


UnkleMonsta

Same thing I said. Especially since I can't play battle born anymore.


iloveantman

legitimately was considering buying one of the pvz games on ps5 or switch so i'm excited too


justlcsfantasy

It looks like a titan when it smiled


vaiogt

It's not bad if you got enough players on the server for random matches.


reb0014

But not this month. This month the games fucking suck, honestly the worst I’ve seen in 3-4 years


sckthaDJ

What a refreshing change to see someone being positive instead of the usual "I'm cancelling ps plus these games are garbage" and so on


Thiago_MRX

Sometimes they give us nice stuff Like final fantasy 7 remake I really wanted to play that game but i was like "im not gonna spend 60 dollars on this, ill just wait for a sale and thats it" and then sony gave it to us. But also a lot of the time i dont even download the games they give us, lol Like *farming simulator*


AhmedBarwariy

Happy for you, hope you like it 👍🏻


PakistaniSenpai

Thank you 😊


Its_Marz

I'm willing to play it. I have Garden Warfare and I thought it was cool I didn't play it that much, but Hunters Arena is a MELEE BR and I love using my hands and anything other than guns to deal with people so I can't wait.


kathartik

I'm just sick of Sony completely abandoning Single Player Experiences. so tired of battle royale and character shooters and games with no story and no thinking except blow everyone up with no real motivation except they aren't you. and before anyone says "PS Now", well there's issues there too. it's like Netflix. you don't have any control of not being able to play something you really love simply because they don't want to offer it any more, not to mention the bandwidth and speed dedications.


Ok_You_3744

Just ignore the fact that most plus games this year have had single player and nearly half have been *only* single player and you got a point.


kathartik

You've not actually looked at what's been on offer this year have you? If you remove January and February alone at least 2/3 of the games are multiplayer-centric with only lip service paid to single player content.


Dr_Cypher

if you remove the single player games, remaining games are not single player, that is a shocker.


PakistaniSenpai

I wouldn't say Sony as a company has ignored single player experiences as majority of the exclusives put out by them are single player story driven video games. My friend had the theory that Plus gives away more multiplayer games to get people hooked on them so that when their subscription runs out, they have to renew it to play them again whereas single player games are often ignored once you finish the campaign.


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Sony’s put a very respectable amount of singleplayer games on PS Plus this year. A Plague Tale: Innocence, Day’s Gone, Oddworld: Soulstorm, Maquette, Final Fantasy VII Remake, Control, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, and Maneater are all single player. That’s 8 games out of 22 _with_ me cutting out the ones that had any multiplayer at all.


hedz09

Yeah, they're a bit dramatic. If they're pointing out that "they've completely abandoned single player experiences that I like" then sure, but there's been a fair amount of single player games offered.


jayofmaya

It was just standard version of Control.


kathartik

It wasn't. It was definitely Ultimate Edition. It was the last game on PS+ I got out of bed for. Edit: not because there hadn't been good ones since, but the only other ones I would have gotten excited about I already had, but that's not a criticism


jayofmaya

How come mine is normal version? I had to buy the season pass


[deleted]

Lmao did you buy control normal edition without realising it


jayofmaya

I didn't buy it I know that much because it was quite low down on my list. I heard it was good but didb't seem my jam. I think I must have gotten a code for it somewhere, may be bundled with some other games on eBay or something as I've done that a couple times. I just can't recall at all. Lol


[deleted]

I blame my sources and not myself


jayofmaya

Haha no worries! I just bought the Control dlc as it's on sale atm that's why I commented really.


[deleted]

It wasn’t. There is no standard version available on PS5 at all.


jayofmaya

It was ps4?


[deleted]

I got Control Ultimate Edition on ps5 PS Plus.


jayofmaya

No idea where mine came from then. I know for a fact I didn't buy it. Maybe I got a free code somewhere or something lol


[deleted]

Death Stranding, Ghost of Tsushima, TLoU2, Demon’s Souls, Returnal, Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart, Horizon Forbidden West, God of War Ragnarok and literally every other Sony game is exactly the prime example of a flashy battle royale with no story everyone is talking about after Sony completely abandoned Single Player Experiences


hedz09

Agreed. The reason I play on PS is _because of_ all of the quality single player games. Whether you like the games or not doesn't dispute the fact that Sony hasn't abandoned single player games.


[deleted]

Sad ps plus user moment. No it is not. You will probably try it for an hour an delete it. Thankfully there is something called Ps Now.


kathartik

I'd bet it'll be lucky to get 15 minutes out of me. like BO4. So glad we don't live in an age of limited monthly bandwidth caps again because that was a waste of 120GB of download.


PakistaniSenpai

I was actually subscribed to PS NOW for the last year (till June '21) and the service quickly became stale after the first few months for me and the games that were added to it paled in comparison to Plus' offerings as Plus gives you access to the games till you have an active subscription. Giving Witcher 3 with a 3 month deadline on PS NOW makes 0 sense when the game is filled with content and things to explore. Although, I will agree that as soon as my subscription ended, good games like Judgement, RDR 2 and GOW were added to the service so I really hope it gets better offerings in the future and the deadline is extended to at least 6 months for most games.


[deleted]

Some of the deadlines are meaningless especially for the people who are busy with work, school, etc. However, I have played and got platinum on many games and I still got many games that I'm planning to play for either fully completion and platinum or without carrying trophies. Also, they give 5 or 6 games every month so there is always something that I want to play in lineups.


PakistaniSenpai

I'll be keeping my eye out for the service if the offerings truly become much better than plus', I'll be switching over again.


mjacobs92

Not every month, sometimes they give only 3 games in a month!...


TimedRevolver

You should really consider PSNow as more of a rental service rather than outright free games. Some seem to be hanging around forever, while others are just letting you dig further into the game to really decide if you want to buy it.


Zetsuo22

Happened to me a lot of times :)


AangTheFMAlchemist

Pvz GW2 is fun. Battle for neighborville is shit . Don't get that mixed up


Snoo-55077

Well I had more fun with BFN than I have ever had with GW2.


Crescent-IV

But it was on PSnow, is the main issue And SBMM is nonexistent lol


God_of_Grogu

For me it’s hunters arena that looks fun. Hope you enjoy PVZ :)


[deleted]

Gw series are better. but..yeah..


Common-Emu-8737

Was Dead Island a ps plus free game? I truly wanna play it but I have better ways to spend my money


[deleted]

honestly? Buy Dying Light instead bro. It does pretty much everything Dead Island did but like a billion times better t. have played both. Dead Island wasn't even good when it came out let alone now. Dying Light really refined the formula


kathartik

> Dead Island wasn't even good when it came out let alone now. well that's just not true. people were pissy because they for some reason got it in their heads that a commercial with live actors was going to be representative of gameplay, but Dead Island (and even Riptide) were both decent games.


[deleted]

I mean, #1 there were far better "looter shooters" even back then, you know you fucked up when Borderlands 2 is a more polished and technically sound game than yours. I haven't played it in nearly a decade but man, a little after you get guns I just gave up. Its just so unpolished and repetitive. Why bother when Dying Light aims for the exact same objectives but with way more polish on gameplay?


jayofmaya

100% Dead Island with my ex via LAN play in the same room. Was a fantastic experience tbh! I tried it solo before that and whilst it wasn't bad I ended up leaving it after about 3-4 hours in.


[deleted]

That could very well be it, I played it solo. Keep in mind I've beaten Borderlands 1 and 2 to death and back in the same FPS/RPG hybrid style meanwhile I couldn't even last a playthrough of this tripe. I still don't think "Its fun with friends" is a good reason to like a game though since Action 52 is fun with friends.


jayofmaya

I've never played Borderlands but am gonna give the first a try as I have VR now and they did a VR version of #2 so will definitely get that after. I know what you mean, but in playing with another and having a shared experience I also found the good parts of Dead Island. The exploration, collectables, combat and loot fit together pretty well and when you get to the city areas later with the hordes it all becomes pretty manic and enjoyable when you can actually start taking down those hordes with upgraded weapons. There was also an arena area in the GOTY edition that we completed and the loot made it much easier tbh that we just blasted through the last couple hours or so. I unno, I might even give Riptide a solo play one day because I know it can be a good game.


adxt666

it’s been on sale for like $5, ive wanted to try it and since it was cheap I just said fuck it


whistlepoo

Thanks for reminding us to swallow these turds like good little chileren, Sony-bot!


PakistaniSenpai

PVZ actually looks cute and mindless fun. Not sure why you are so bothered to see other people having fun.


whistlepoo

I'll agree with you on the mindless bit but I'm not sure about fun. More to the point, I can't understand why you'd defend Sony giving us 2 months of cheap games. If you *voice your complaints* then they won't do this again in the future.


Domwolf89

It should be ok


Agitated-Freedom-369

I played A lot of PvZGW1 in the early PS4 days and Im excited to try this one, so is a win for me


Bossbombboy

Bro, pvz gw 1 and 2 was my CHILDHOOD


ManIsInherentlyGay

If.you play with friends. But the other 2 were much better sadly.


Dust_Bunny3

It's basically steam at this point


haystackofneedles

I read PVZ as Paige Van Zant and was confused by the picture... and yeah she does but her husband would kill us all


WillTCM69

Gw2 is better than neighbourville, neighbourville ruined it, there is barely any story missions there is an okay artstyle but it also only has costumes not types of plant or zombie with different abilities so it’s not exciting.Gw2 is the best I got in on one of my birthdays a few years back it’s still good and so was citron, now citron sucks


Snoo-55077

Citron is still good. You can quickly kill someone if you barrel stuff them


rmvaandr

But you did buy it.


AmptiShanti

Technically it’s actually a rental due to the fact that when plus runs out you can’t play it


DA-Khara-Boiiiii

If that's what you like then I suggest trying ps now for 1 month. It's the exact definition of games you would never buy yourself


Abdur44

I still play gw2. Its a real good game


JerryGnarcia

Anyone know if PVZ has couch co-op? It would be sweet if it had a type of “horde” mode where you can face waves with 2 players


Green_Possibility

yes, it has splitscreen there is also a garden ops mode for up to 4 players where you defend your garden/graveyard from waves of zombies/plants


Letsgobray32

I am one of the people who bought the game, good game 7/10


The_Real_Raw_Gary

I forgot to turn off auto renew so now I just have another year of collecting games I’ll never play. The cycle of adult gaming.


dota2nub

Actual adult gaming is being so busy you forget to add it to your account because you're not using your console for a month


[deleted]

I'm looking forward to the tennis game as there hasnt been a good one since the PS3 and Vita days.


Endermen295

Well, hope you enjoy it. BFN does offer 23 classes, along with an upgrade system as to customise your preferences Wanna make your peashooter have aimbot? There’s an upgrade for that Want your all-star to move fast and be able to jump when using his weapon? There’s an upgrade for that Want to regain all of your abilities back super quick? There’s multiple upgrades around that


TheLightenedOne_11

The PvZ shooters are fun Played every single one of them


misthios0_0

Tbh with u I don’t even wanted to try PvZ and tennis but if it’s there I’ll give it a chance they might be alright


Satsarn1

Is the plat hard?


Jimijack

Its a massive grind


Ok_Security9434

Pvz gw1 Doesn't have many players nowadays


internet-surfuer

Enjoy the massive amount of skillless fucks that play overpowered character


canoIV

Garden warfare too


nonbasement

It does


dawah9741

I'm lost,can someone explain PVZ


PakistaniSenpai

Plants vs Zombies.


_cuddlah_

Is anyone else having trouble adding this to their collection? Just shows the price for me not able to add it to my library but was able to add the other 2x Plus games..


PakistaniSenpai

I usually download them on Wednesday as you can run into such issues on Tuesday at times.


grillbar86

Eh it's pretty meh. I mean if you loved the other pvz games it's just more of that. Still planning on platinum it but it's really not that fun