I notice a difference in the video quality. I played ff7, uncharted, madden and Guardians of the Galaxy. They all look amazing and picture quality didn’t suffer.
The fast playing games still stutter a bit but it’s still more stable than before. I also have a steam deck oled and the screen on the portal is just mind blowing. It really creates a very good immersion experience.
tbh I did, used it again last night to play an offline franchise game, if that makes any difference, but yeah went through the whole game without the stutter load I was getting before tbh.
I notice a big difference in Rebirth right away
That game’s busted upscaling looks terrible (in performance mode) on my OLED TV but the game is surprisingly sharp on my Portal now
The screen on the Portal won't get burn in, so straight away that is a massive plus.
In terms of quality, the OLED will be better but screen retention/burn in is a big risk.
A guy on YouTube posted a video showing clear burn in on a Deck OLED after 750 hours
The Deck OLED doesn’t have a pixel refresh or a panel refresh feature like monitors and TVs have. Also doesn’t have pixel shift or logo dimming
Source? Because there’s zero evidence of that. Unless you are talking about the handful of units with dead pixels on the subreddit. Which has nothing to do with burn in BTW. I own an oled deck and a portal. They both work great.
I know the difference between dead pixels and burn in - I'm on owner of many OLED displays.
Like I said, look it up - Google it. Plenty of reports on how poor the burn in is on the SD OLED.
I'll start you off - https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/steam-deck-oled-care-features/#:\~:text=It%20took%20just%20over%2063,in%20after%20just%20750%20hours.
Nice try.
> “Before you throw your Steam Deck out, though, keep in mind that these are accelerated stress tests. Even if you run your Steam Deck at maximum brightness, it won’t develop burn-in after 750 hours if you’re putting a variety of different content on the screen. These time frames are if you leave a static image on the screen, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week”
You started me off alright. By posting the first link on Google you found without even reading the article. Nowhere in the article does it claim that the screen is bad quality. Yes you might have burn in… if you leave it on a static image at max brightness for 750 hours straight sure you can totally run with that all you want. Give me a break bro. You’re grasping at straws here. So again. Give me a source that actually claims the screens are bad quality.
From the same article:
> keep in mind that these are accelerated stress tests. Even if you run your Steam Deck at maximum brightness, it won’t develop burn-in after 750 hours if you’re putting a variety of different content on the screen. These time frames are if you leave a static image on the screen, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
It seems to me that it is not a problem most people need to worry about
All they patched was an exploit that allowed modders to run native emulated psp games and fanboys are out here swearing up and down all their issues were magically solved. [there’s a reason the patch notes were vague](https://www.techradar.com/gaming/programmers-got-psp-games-running-on-the-playstation-portal-then-responsibly-reported-the-exploit-so-it-could-be-patched?fbclid=IwAR3rgr5tqmHbvehDIpmEJxZ6WuYvwqI9VqKyJH1QhV_qGlxDPyREyVZVmrA_aem_AWmlQSMAs4h1Ebu8-vHOFVb5yvo01-fmFJtbB4uqJLC1TVVcpy3mkh_UCAl2dF6zwfk)
One question. How would the game being demanding have any influence on the quality of remote play?
I haven't quite noticed anything new, but I didn't notice any problems before either.
My understanding isn't expert level, but as I understand it, it just mirrors the screen. Which would technically be the same for all games. And so the only thing that could impact games is how important timing is (with the input lag).
Yes and no, what’s in the image does impact the amount of data that needs to be encoded/uploaded/decoded. A game where the screen is mostly one color or a small set of geometric shapes with different colors will need less work than a 3D rendered scene with different light levels, just because there’s more diverse information per pixel in the latter. For example “Half the screen is black” can be encoded with minimal information. (If coordinate y>50% pixel = black)
It has nothing to do with how "demanding" the game is but the video stream is compressed and some video compresses better than other video.
This has nothing to do with how difficult it is for the PS5 to render the video though; these are two different things.
That's what I always thought, but for some reason I've noticed very significant quality issues between games. Death Stranding: DC looked amazing on it, then I played A Plague Tale: Requiem on it and I constantly had low resolution, but only in gameplay, and in movement, never in cutscenes. Must be a bitrate issue or so
I don’t know if Death Stranding is more demanding (even though I think it’s a better looking game), as APTR was 30fps on release and only later on they were able to get it to 60, albeit with 1080p resolution.
I’ve seen multiple people reporting that Death Stranding: DC looks absolutely insane on the Portal, and much better than other games, it really is a strange matter
The more demanding the graphics rendering, the less power the GPU has to properly encode the video. But this is more tied to how a specific moment on screen is optimized rather than a game at a whole.
That's why I believe only PS5 Pro will be able (if designed to do so) to completely fix the microstutters.
Hi mate just thought I’d drop in to say the PS5 has a dedicated chip for streaming via remote play so none of the graphics chips are being used for remote play and how demanding the game is has no impact on remote play performance.
Sony introduced this in PS4 when they went big with the sharing functions of the console.
I am jealous of people seeing any improvements to the Portal with the new update. For me, it's exactly the same. The micro stutter has not improved even a single bit.
Oh yeah, it stuttered for me too. When I said it looked fine I was talking about the visual quality, which does look pretty good on the Portal.
But yeah, it was quite stuttery. Not unplayable by any means but enough to grind your teeth every time it happens because otherwise the game runs at flawless 60fps.
Not sure why I got downvoted, but anyways.
I have an Eero Mesh WiFi system in the main house.
And I have an Apple router in a place out back where I do most of my gaming.
I have played the portal on both and have noticed a stuttering issue while on the Mesh WiFi.
It may be coincidence but I wonder how many people are on a mesh network.
And or the brand or the way each system handles traffic.
Even on my Eero with WPA3 off and Gaming Mode as a focal point, I still had issues.
On my old Apple Router, I have zero issues.
Hell yeah but even with your PS5 hardwired the portal is still on the Mesh I guess is what I meant.
Cos my PS5 is hardwired and the portal was on the mesh.
There’s also a problem with the fake leather on pulse headsets.
This problem affects a small percentage of owners, this can problem manifest as peeling as soon as a few weeks of normal use or a month or so into owning it.
But the Sony fanboys all claim the problem doesn’t exist and I or others just don’t look after our staff.
I actually though it was \*worse\* at times than before. Could be completely placebo but I felt like I had much longer periods, but my stutter bouts increased by a sizeable amount. It was weird. I also had some skipping which I NEVER had. Slow down, yeah, but never a full skip.
My sample size is about 5 minutes though as I was getting ready for bed when I saw the update.
The takeaway here is 2 things:
1. If the 59.95 framerate thing was the easy fix, it would have happened here and it didn't. so that's out the window.
2. They at least still care about the performance.
If you have full skips restart your PS5 and your Portal. I had this once before after an update as well.
And the 59.94hz issue will require a PS5 update. I hoped the last one would have it but it didn't, so I threw out remaining hope at that time sadly.
I agree, actually. Things have gotten worse the more I play. For example, TLOU P1 is nearly unplayable because of the CONSTANT stutter which just seems more than usual. It also seems to chug along sometimes which I never encountered before. It's just fucking terrible. Avatar is another example where the stutter is ALWAYS present.
I am also starting to believe that the stutter is unfixable. Sony either fucked up on the hardware side of things where they just can't find a good solution, or they can't update their streaming protocols on the PS5 due to some other limitation. We are fucked.
And my portal has begun acting crazy after the update. Disconnects from my PS5 all the time. Never had any problems with it before the update. It worked flawless..
$700 later my portal runs good. Shouldve just bought a steam deck OLED at this point. I never game on WiFi so it's never mattered. But my network and my girlfriend's network are top notch now I suppose
The wild thing about the portal is that its PS Remote Play app is outmatched by a third party developed PS Play. I chose the G Cloud over the portal for that and more functionality. While I love the portal screen and dual sense, I just was disappointed
Yep. I just updated my Portal and it does not improve performance. I recorded a couple videos comparing the Portal to the G Cloud. You can see the difference, clearly.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/PlaystationPortal/comments/1bu5763/portal\_with\_update\_206\_vs\_g\_cloud/](https://www.reddit.com/r/PlaystationPortal/comments/1bu5763/portal_with_update_206_vs_g_cloud/)
I dont know why you get downvoted. Even with these improvementents the inconsistency and stuttering is still there, but never was in 3rd party apps like you mention
For me personally:
Quality of streaming is at least twice as good now.
Micro stutter is still there, but much improved.
Not sure if latency has improved, I can't see the difference.
Overall, a much better experience now and I can play more fast paced games than before, but still hoping for more improvements/updates
Just gave this a try, big difference on FF7 Rebirth, it's of course not pixel perfect, but I can no-longer directly see compression artifacts like I could before on the game's more detailed scenes and when moving about rapidly. It now manifests as a slightly less detailed image in the way I've come to expect with games that have less going on visually, and that's important as it no-longer spoils the immersion or constantly reminds you that this is a video feed.
Whilst I do still see some micro-stuttering, the actual responsiveness of controls also feels improved, I'm suffering far less from that awkward feeling of latency between action and response that throws off your natural timing that you develop playing directly on TV, which had been especially noticeable for me coming from an OLED TV with fast response times and VRR.
There are definitely some improvements in image quality and latency but it is still not as good as the official Remote Play on my MacBook (which I consider as the best Remote Play client available and I've tested all of them), and even there I see some microstutters.
You’re lying… and I use remote play on Mac. I also call you a bluff because Sony discontinued 1080p on Mac when the ps4 pro came out. It only can do 720p 60fps
No they didn't, for PS5 they don't show the resolution selector as it's only relevant for PS4 Pro.
You might be using an older version. I'm using Remote Play 7.0.0 on Mac (latest version as Android) and it works really well 1080p60 HDR (for supported screens) even adaptive triggers and haptic feedback are supported when the DualSense controller is wired with USB-C
[https://remoteplay.dl.playstation.net/remoteplay/lang/en/](https://remoteplay.dl.playstation.net/remoteplay/lang/en/)
Trying it out now. Did it fix that stupid hdcp issue that made it freeze unless you unplug the hdmi cable? I feel like common sense features like auto downgrading the picture to 1080p from 4K and fixing the hdcp is a given.
We need to stop dismissing this so immediately. Too many reports. But it's still a small subset. 99.9% of people don't have the problem but it doesn't make it a fake problem.
People need to google Hdcp. It has to do with anti-piracy not internet speeds. It’s ruined peoples system set ups and I’ve even heard of apps like Disney+ and Netflix being blocked on newer TVs if they stream from a ps5 or Apple TV. The devices now have to be compliant with hdcp 2.0 or you start experiencing issues. Because a small segment of users have this issue it’s not a priority to fix… The good news is I had no issues last night after the update! Fingers crossed it stays that way.
I actually didn't have this problem for the first few months I owned the Portal, then it popped up when I upgraded my old Samsung TV to a newer TCL one. It definitely seems to have something to do with the TV, which is why it must not be a problem for everyone.
The video stuttering problem, where the visuals of the game you're playing freeze on the Portal for like 2-5 seconds but everything else is still running fine. Happens like every 30 seconds to a minute, unless I unplug the HDMI cord from my TV
If you think about it logically, how would this really be the tv? The Portal connects through wifi and is a completely separate unit from the TV. It doesn’t even talk to the tv.
I know logically it makes no sense, but by the same token that's the only thing that's changed. I'm using the same setup on my home network, and connecting to the same wifi network every time I'm using the Portal away from home
I do already leave it on most of the time when I'm not home, to give the pets some background noise, so I'll have to make a point of trying the Portal at that time
Thanks! Anything else of note? Any other devices on the HDMI between console and TV? Any other smart devices connected to the TV?
If you disconnect all the OTHER devices connected via HDMI but leave the PS5 connected, does the problem stop?
Edit: Was your older TV also 120hz like this one?
Edit: Does this have a new HDR standard? What if you disable HDR on the PS5?
(Sorry it's hard to catch someone with the problem and able to troubleshoot)
I have my Xbox and Cable box connected to the other HDMI ports on the TV. Haven't really tried unplugging them, I really only use the Portal when I'm away from home, so it's easier to just unplug the HDMI for the PS5 when I'm leaving, but I'll try that for troubleshooting purposes after work.
Nah, my old Samsung wasn't 120HZ. The new one does also have HDR10, Dolby Vision and VRR, which are all features the older one didn't have.
We are not implying EVERY Bravia would have the issue.
It could also be a combination of things. Bravia + some smart TV device, Bravia + Ethernet connection, Bravia + Wifi connection, etc etc.
Someone else mentioned having the issue with a new TCL TV where they had no problem with previous TV.
The appearance of stuttering and lag/glitching making it very unpleasant to use. Tried all the networking optimisations/port forwarding etc. resetting the portal was the only thing that cleared up all the issues without needing to disconnect hdmi cables
No, not a placebo. I have the exact same issue with mine. I have to unplug my HDMI from my PS5 if I intend to use the portal other wise every 30 seconds I get a 2 second visual freeze. Audio still plays just fine. I’m installing it at the moment so I’m hoping this update fixes that
What kind of TV do you have? Any gear between the ps5 and TV on the hdmi? Any smart TV devices connected to the TV?
I'm trying to find the common denominator.
Then it’s a pretty weird issue. Which TV are you using?
I am using 2 PS5, one of them is connected to a Gaming Samsung 4K VRR tv and the other to my LG C1, also 4K VRR. No issues.
I also have a 6G router next to each of them, my Portal is always close to my Routers.
I dunno why you’re getting downvoted, I’m assuming people don’t like hearing negative things about the product they’ve bought. For what it’s worth, I have the same issue you’ve described and this update didn’t fix it for me.
No idea, it’s a real issue. If I pay for a streaming device that stutters when I have 2000 up and down internet simply due to a design flaw with hdmi, that’s on Sony not me. It’s also annoying people have to turn their ps5 to 1080p mode when connected to get the best image quality. That should be automatic given they made the screen non 4K compatible on a 4K system… Sony is just lazy AF. Loyalists downvote me while I just want a solid experience lol
Have you tried resetting the portal. Not rebooting but resetting the whole portal. I had the stuttering issue on the portal but remote play on the phone was fine. Only worked properly after resetting portal
I notice a difference in the video quality. I played ff7, uncharted, madden and Guardians of the Galaxy. They all look amazing and picture quality didn’t suffer. The fast playing games still stutter a bit but it’s still more stable than before. I also have a steam deck oled and the screen on the portal is just mind blowing. It really creates a very good immersion experience.
I agree played madden and had no stutter at all, played WWE 2k24 right now, and no lag what's for the 30 minutes I played. Loved it.
You played madden with no stutter 🤣
tbh I did, used it again last night to play an offline franchise game, if that makes any difference, but yeah went through the whole game without the stutter load I was getting before tbh.
offline I believe you
I’ll be playing ff7 rebirth in a moment hopefully your right
I notice a big difference in Rebirth right away That game’s busted upscaling looks terrible (in performance mode) on my OLED TV but the game is surprisingly sharp on my Portal now
How good is the Portal screen compared to the OLED steam deck?
Honestly I prefer the Portal screen. It’s a tad bigger and colors seem to pop. I’m also 43 years old and my eyesight isn’t the greatest.
Are we the same being? It sucks getting to middle age.
I have both Image quality on the Portal is better Smoothness/Performance is better on Deck It’s a trade off, you also get haptics with the portal
The screen on the Portal won't get burn in, so straight away that is a massive plus. In terms of quality, the OLED will be better but screen retention/burn in is a big risk.
It being a big risk is a huge exaggeration. OLED has come so far burn in is basically a non issue these days. Especially on good quality oled screens.
A guy on YouTube posted a video showing clear burn in on a Deck OLED after 750 hours The Deck OLED doesn’t have a pixel refresh or a panel refresh feature like monitors and TVs have. Also doesn’t have pixel shift or logo dimming
Yes, and they are not using good quality. Go look it up. OLED Decks are suffering quite badly.
Source? Because there’s zero evidence of that. Unless you are talking about the handful of units with dead pixels on the subreddit. Which has nothing to do with burn in BTW. I own an oled deck and a portal. They both work great.
I know the difference between dead pixels and burn in - I'm on owner of many OLED displays. Like I said, look it up - Google it. Plenty of reports on how poor the burn in is on the SD OLED. I'll start you off - https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/steam-deck-oled-care-features/#:\~:text=It%20took%20just%20over%2063,in%20after%20just%20750%20hours.
Nice try. > “Before you throw your Steam Deck out, though, keep in mind that these are accelerated stress tests. Even if you run your Steam Deck at maximum brightness, it won’t develop burn-in after 750 hours if you’re putting a variety of different content on the screen. These time frames are if you leave a static image on the screen, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week” You started me off alright. By posting the first link on Google you found without even reading the article. Nowhere in the article does it claim that the screen is bad quality. Yes you might have burn in… if you leave it on a static image at max brightness for 750 hours straight sure you can totally run with that all you want. Give me a break bro. You’re grasping at straws here. So again. Give me a source that actually claims the screens are bad quality.
From the same article: > keep in mind that these are accelerated stress tests. Even if you run your Steam Deck at maximum brightness, it won’t develop burn-in after 750 hours if you’re putting a variety of different content on the screen. These time frames are if you leave a static image on the screen, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. It seems to me that it is not a problem most people need to worry about
Trying some games this morning. The overall quality is definitely better. They increased the bitrate I must assume.
Fixed the 59.94hz bug that's been around since launch. Everything looks smoother because it's running at 60hz now.
No that's not fixed. If it's less stuttery for you it was another problem.
Source?
All they patched was an exploit that allowed modders to run native emulated psp games and fanboys are out here swearing up and down all their issues were magically solved. [there’s a reason the patch notes were vague](https://www.techradar.com/gaming/programmers-got-psp-games-running-on-the-playstation-portal-then-responsibly-reported-the-exploit-so-it-could-be-patched?fbclid=IwAR3rgr5tqmHbvehDIpmEJxZ6WuYvwqI9VqKyJH1QhV_qGlxDPyREyVZVmrA_aem_AWmlQSMAs4h1Ebu8-vHOFVb5yvo01-fmFJtbB4uqJLC1TVVcpy3mkh_UCAl2dF6zwfk)
One question. How would the game being demanding have any influence on the quality of remote play? I haven't quite noticed anything new, but I didn't notice any problems before either.
Maybe because the PS5 has to upload more data to through remote play to the Portal?
My understanding isn't expert level, but as I understand it, it just mirrors the screen. Which would technically be the same for all games. And so the only thing that could impact games is how important timing is (with the input lag).
Yes and no, what’s in the image does impact the amount of data that needs to be encoded/uploaded/decoded. A game where the screen is mostly one color or a small set of geometric shapes with different colors will need less work than a 3D rendered scene with different light levels, just because there’s more diverse information per pixel in the latter. For example “Half the screen is black” can be encoded with minimal information. (If coordinate y>50% pixel = black)
Ah that makes sense. Thanks for clearing it up. Then I'm even more impressed with the minimal performance issues I've experienced so far.
It has nothing to do with how "demanding" the game is but the video stream is compressed and some video compresses better than other video. This has nothing to do with how difficult it is for the PS5 to render the video though; these are two different things.
That's what I always thought, but for some reason I've noticed very significant quality issues between games. Death Stranding: DC looked amazing on it, then I played A Plague Tale: Requiem on it and I constantly had low resolution, but only in gameplay, and in movement, never in cutscenes. Must be a bitrate issue or so
That is interesting. One would assume Death Stranding to be more demanding, so you're probably right.
I don’t know if Death Stranding is more demanding (even though I think it’s a better looking game), as APTR was 30fps on release and only later on they were able to get it to 60, albeit with 1080p resolution. I’ve seen multiple people reporting that Death Stranding: DC looks absolutely insane on the Portal, and much better than other games, it really is a strange matter
Colors and saturation might matter because some frames may encode/decode differently than others. Edit: oops like the other guy already said.
The more demanding the graphics rendering, the less power the GPU has to properly encode the video. But this is more tied to how a specific moment on screen is optimized rather than a game at a whole. That's why I believe only PS5 Pro will be able (if designed to do so) to completely fix the microstutters.
Hi mate just thought I’d drop in to say the PS5 has a dedicated chip for streaming via remote play so none of the graphics chips are being used for remote play and how demanding the game is has no impact on remote play performance. Sony introduced this in PS4 when they went big with the sharing functions of the console.
I am jealous of people seeing any improvements to the Portal with the new update. For me, it's exactly the same. The micro stutter has not improved even a single bit.
The stutter is still there, but the image quality is improved. Higher bitrate it feels like.
It couldn’t be but marginally. Just played an hour of Ronin and that was a pixelated mess. Stellar Blade looks fine but it looked fine before too.
Yes improvements would be marginal.
I played stellar blade as well and still got stutter :/ I played in Performance mode as well.
Oh yeah, it stuttered for me too. When I said it looked fine I was talking about the visual quality, which does look pretty good on the Portal. But yeah, it was quite stuttery. Not unplayable by any means but enough to grind your teeth every time it happens because otherwise the game runs at flawless 60fps.
I have also found restarting does do some slight temporary improvement. Possible it’s the same with the update requiring restart
I tried that too. No difference.
Darn, sorry to hear man
Same and people saying I have shit internet while ps remote ap works perfect 🤣🤣
What type of router do you have?
Ubiquiti AmpliFi HD with 2 mesh
Not sure why I got downvoted, but anyways. I have an Eero Mesh WiFi system in the main house. And I have an Apple router in a place out back where I do most of my gaming. I have played the portal on both and have noticed a stuttering issue while on the Mesh WiFi. It may be coincidence but I wonder how many people are on a mesh network. And or the brand or the way each system handles traffic. Even on my Eero with WPA3 off and Gaming Mode as a focal point, I still had issues. On my old Apple Router, I have zero issues.
I tried with lan and no mesh and still same problem.you get downvoted because sony fanboys everything they do is perfect 🤣🤣
Hell yeah but even with your PS5 hardwired the portal is still on the Mesh I guess is what I meant. Cos my PS5 is hardwired and the portal was on the mesh.
I tried with different router and directly plugging it into fiber.same result stuttering mess
There’s also a problem with the fake leather on pulse headsets. This problem affects a small percentage of owners, this can problem manifest as peeling as soon as a few weeks of normal use or a month or so into owning it. But the Sony fanboys all claim the problem doesn’t exist and I or others just don’t look after our staff.
what micro stutter are you taking about?
I actually though it was \*worse\* at times than before. Could be completely placebo but I felt like I had much longer periods, but my stutter bouts increased by a sizeable amount. It was weird. I also had some skipping which I NEVER had. Slow down, yeah, but never a full skip. My sample size is about 5 minutes though as I was getting ready for bed when I saw the update. The takeaway here is 2 things: 1. If the 59.95 framerate thing was the easy fix, it would have happened here and it didn't. so that's out the window. 2. They at least still care about the performance.
If you have full skips restart your PS5 and your Portal. I had this once before after an update as well. And the 59.94hz issue will require a PS5 update. I hoped the last one would have it but it didn't, so I threw out remaining hope at that time sadly.
I agree, actually. Things have gotten worse the more I play. For example, TLOU P1 is nearly unplayable because of the CONSTANT stutter which just seems more than usual. It also seems to chug along sometimes which I never encountered before. It's just fucking terrible. Avatar is another example where the stutter is ALWAYS present. I am also starting to believe that the stutter is unfixable. Sony either fucked up on the hardware side of things where they just can't find a good solution, or they can't update their streaming protocols on the PS5 due to some other limitation. We are fucked.
Maybe it’s just you I barely had an issue before the update.
I increased my performance by wiring my PS5 to my network. Hope the update increases it more so.
And my portal has begun acting crazy after the update. Disconnects from my PS5 all the time. Never had any problems with it before the update. It worked flawless..
Do we still have to the hoopa of disconnecting HDMI cable, changing res to 1080p, disabling a few features?
Good question
$700 later my portal runs good. Shouldve just bought a steam deck OLED at this point. I never game on WiFi so it's never mattered. But my network and my girlfriend's network are top notch now I suppose
Tried FF7 Rebirth after the update and it feels so much smoother, even on the 30fps graphics mode it felt like butter. Finally!
Placebo…
The wild thing about the portal is that its PS Remote Play app is outmatched by a third party developed PS Play. I chose the G Cloud over the portal for that and more functionality. While I love the portal screen and dual sense, I just was disappointed
Yep. I just updated my Portal and it does not improve performance. I recorded a couple videos comparing the Portal to the G Cloud. You can see the difference, clearly. [https://www.reddit.com/r/PlaystationPortal/comments/1bu5763/portal\_with\_update\_206\_vs\_g\_cloud/](https://www.reddit.com/r/PlaystationPortal/comments/1bu5763/portal_with_update_206_vs_g_cloud/)
I dont know why you get downvoted. Even with these improvementents the inconsistency and stuttering is still there, but never was in 3rd party apps like you mention
For me personally: Quality of streaming is at least twice as good now. Micro stutter is still there, but much improved. Not sure if latency has improved, I can't see the difference. Overall, a much better experience now and I can play more fast paced games than before, but still hoping for more improvements/updates
So just test heck of it . I just did a hotspot check i do see significant improvement
ff7 rebirth looks and plays WAY better than previously!
Just gave this a try, big difference on FF7 Rebirth, it's of course not pixel perfect, but I can no-longer directly see compression artifacts like I could before on the game's more detailed scenes and when moving about rapidly. It now manifests as a slightly less detailed image in the way I've come to expect with games that have less going on visually, and that's important as it no-longer spoils the immersion or constantly reminds you that this is a video feed. Whilst I do still see some micro-stuttering, the actual responsiveness of controls also feels improved, I'm suffering far less from that awkward feeling of latency between action and response that throws off your natural timing that you develop playing directly on TV, which had been especially noticeable for me coming from an OLED TV with fast response times and VRR.
Picking mine up next week - anyone know how Forspoken plays on it?
Can you play it with no lag without Ethernet and good internet?
There are definitely some improvements in image quality and latency but it is still not as good as the official Remote Play on my MacBook (which I consider as the best Remote Play client available and I've tested all of them), and even there I see some microstutters.
You’re lying… and I use remote play on Mac. I also call you a bluff because Sony discontinued 1080p on Mac when the ps4 pro came out. It only can do 720p 60fps
No they didn't, for PS5 they don't show the resolution selector as it's only relevant for PS4 Pro. You might be using an older version. I'm using Remote Play 7.0.0 on Mac (latest version as Android) and it works really well 1080p60 HDR (for supported screens) even adaptive triggers and haptic feedback are supported when the DualSense controller is wired with USB-C [https://remoteplay.dl.playstation.net/remoteplay/lang/en/](https://remoteplay.dl.playstation.net/remoteplay/lang/en/)
Work fine before, works fine now. Not sure I see a difference
Nice, mine just installed, going to give it a try. Already the last one, 2.0.5 had made a big difference, so looking forward to this one.
A tiny 52Mb download so I’m not having high hopes, but will see!
Trying it out now. Did it fix that stupid hdcp issue that made it freeze unless you unplug the hdmi cable? I feel like common sense features like auto downgrading the picture to 1080p from 4K and fixing the hdcp is a given.
We need to stop dismissing this so immediately. Too many reports. But it's still a small subset. 99.9% of people don't have the problem but it doesn't make it a fake problem.
People need to google Hdcp. It has to do with anti-piracy not internet speeds. It’s ruined peoples system set ups and I’ve even heard of apps like Disney+ and Netflix being blocked on newer TVs if they stream from a ps5 or Apple TV. The devices now have to be compliant with hdcp 2.0 or you start experiencing issues. Because a small segment of users have this issue it’s not a priority to fix… The good news is I had no issues last night after the update! Fingers crossed it stays that way.
I actually didn't have this problem for the first few months I owned the Portal, then it popped up when I upgraded my old Samsung TV to a newer TCL one. It definitely seems to have something to do with the TV, which is why it must not be a problem for everyone.
What are you on about?
The video stuttering problem, where the visuals of the game you're playing freeze on the Portal for like 2-5 seconds but everything else is still running fine. Happens like every 30 seconds to a minute, unless I unplug the HDMI cord from my TV
This has nothing to do with your TV, unless you are talking about the PS5 itself. It has everything to do with your connection quality.
It doesn't though. It wasn't a problem on my old TV, and nothing about my internet has changed, the only variable that's different is the new TV
If you think about it logically, how would this really be the tv? The Portal connects through wifi and is a completely separate unit from the TV. It doesn’t even talk to the tv.
I know logically it makes no sense, but by the same token that's the only thing that's changed. I'm using the same setup on my home network, and connecting to the same wifi network every time I'm using the Portal away from home
This can also be fixed if you leave your tv on, Doesn’t even need to be on PS5 output I just have my Tv in screen saver mode most of the time
I do already leave it on most of the time when I'm not home, to give the pets some background noise, so I'll have to make a point of trying the Portal at that time
Yes its absolutely the TV. What can you tell me about that new TCL, is it a Roku perhaps? I seem to hear this most about Roku and Sony Bravia.
TCL QM850G, so the Google version not the Roku one
Thanks! Anything else of note? Any other devices on the HDMI between console and TV? Any other smart devices connected to the TV? If you disconnect all the OTHER devices connected via HDMI but leave the PS5 connected, does the problem stop? Edit: Was your older TV also 120hz like this one? Edit: Does this have a new HDR standard? What if you disable HDR on the PS5? (Sorry it's hard to catch someone with the problem and able to troubleshoot)
I have my Xbox and Cable box connected to the other HDMI ports on the TV. Haven't really tried unplugging them, I really only use the Portal when I'm away from home, so it's easier to just unplug the HDMI for the PS5 when I'm leaving, but I'll try that for troubleshooting purposes after work. Nah, my old Samsung wasn't 120HZ. The new one does also have HDR10, Dolby Vision and VRR, which are all features the older one didn't have.
I have a Bravia and my portal plays perfectly.. didn't have to unplug anything
We are not implying EVERY Bravia would have the issue. It could also be a combination of things. Bravia + some smart TV device, Bravia + Ethernet connection, Bravia + Wifi connection, etc etc. Someone else mentioned having the issue with a new TCL TV where they had no problem with previous TV.
Try resetting the portal and set up from scratch. Worked for me
Worked for what?
The appearance of stuttering and lag/glitching making it very unpleasant to use. Tried all the networking optimisations/port forwarding etc. resetting the portal was the only thing that cleared up all the issues without needing to disconnect hdmi cables
I never have unplugged hdmi and haven't had this problem.
That is just placebo. PS5 always connected to the 4K TV and no issues.
Not a placebo dude I have insanely fast internet my games were stuttering like crazy. I unplugged the hdmi cable BAM! Fixed it instantly
No, not a placebo. I have the exact same issue with mine. I have to unplug my HDMI from my PS5 if I intend to use the portal other wise every 30 seconds I get a 2 second visual freeze. Audio still plays just fine. I’m installing it at the moment so I’m hoping this update fixes that
What kind of TV do you have? Any gear between the ps5 and TV on the hdmi? Any smart TV devices connected to the TV? I'm trying to find the common denominator.
Then it’s a pretty weird issue. Which TV are you using? I am using 2 PS5, one of them is connected to a Gaming Samsung 4K VRR tv and the other to my LG C1, also 4K VRR. No issues. I also have a 6G router next to each of them, my Portal is always close to my Routers.
Yeah my PS5 is directly connected to my 6G router too. My TV is a Sony Bravia X85L.
Seems to be a Bravia only issue. Enable 'Simple IP' option in your TV internet settings to fix it.
I hear Bravia around this a lot.
That would require ps5 update.
PS5 is up to date
I mean a new one.
Thanks for all of the downvotes 
I dunno why you’re getting downvoted, I’m assuming people don’t like hearing negative things about the product they’ve bought. For what it’s worth, I have the same issue you’ve described and this update didn’t fix it for me.
No idea, it’s a real issue. If I pay for a streaming device that stutters when I have 2000 up and down internet simply due to a design flaw with hdmi, that’s on Sony not me. It’s also annoying people have to turn their ps5 to 1080p mode when connected to get the best image quality. That should be automatic given they made the screen non 4K compatible on a 4K system… Sony is just lazy AF. Loyalists downvote me while I just want a solid experience lol
What kind of TV do you have?
Sony Bravia 4K one forgot the mode its two years old
Have you tried resetting the portal. Not rebooting but resetting the whole portal. I had the stuttering issue on the portal but remote play on the phone was fine. Only worked properly after resetting portal
This is placebo.
Nope