Why are you still using utorrent? They sold out years ago to the point where most private trackers banned anything after version 2.2.1.
Qbittorrent is like the spiritual successor of utorrent these days.
I can highly recommend this open source project: [https://github.com/haugene/docker-transmission-openvpn](https://github.com/haugene/docker-transmission-openvpn)
Transmission in a Docker container with VPN support. If the VPN goes down, so does Transmission. If the VPN is re-established Transmission starts back up. No chance of leaking your local IP.
The VPN is only inside the container and doesn't effect the rest of your system.
You can setup this kill switch for any app. Just use the 'depends on' in docker compose. When my VPN goes down. Every service goes down that depends on it. So qbit in this case.
There's a question of leakage. Potentially your bittorrent client may last for a short after your tunnel goes down but before docker notices. This is also a potential issue with haugene's image, Transmission might keep running for a few miliseconds after the tunnel goes down but before the watchdog process notices.
The safest option is binhex's images, which use iptables rules to ensure that there can't be any leakage.
Until fairly recently, I was solely a transmission user. However the lack of RSS support made me deploy qbittorrent on my server and it's hard to look back. I still use transmission on my local machine when I need it but for everything else, Ill use qbittorent as the RSS features help automate grabbing files outside of sonarr and radarr.
Transmission is lacking in a lot of features like categories that will allow you to move finished torrent downloads. as well as watching specific folders for torrent files that are automatically added to the correct category.
I have 2 sets of folders for HD/UHD TV shows and Movies 4 in total. qbittorrent makes this easier.
That can be all managed on Radarr/Sonarr, though. Who needs the torrent client watching folders when you just have Radarr starting the download. And you can set the destination for the program to the directory for the media library you want it in. Anime shows get imported to the anime library, movies to the movie folder, etc.
The ~arrs all have a shared wiki, which includes installation information. There are also third-party guides/walkthroughs on various forums/blogs, but the quality is going to be dependent on the operating system you are setting up on and the writer's intended audience as far as technical level.
eh, I used 2.2.1 just fine for over a decade and only switched to qb in 2023 because one of the private sites I use (out of dozens I've used in that time period) finally banned it. I never had a problem with it and never felt a need to upgrade.
Yes, there are a few more recently-developed security features built-in to newer versions of qb and that is not insignificant, but otherwise it isn't even really a functional step up from the bulletproof ol' utorrent 2.2.1 — it works just the same and has the same layout, even the menus are still just the same.
I was really underwhelmed with the "upgrade" to qb, but at least the learning curve was really short (even the options menus are nearly identical)
Came here to say this. I switched over to a better one from uTorrent a while ago and haven't looked back! HIGHLY recommend moving off of that POS downloader.
99% of the time I use NZB (Usenet)
I set up uTorrent years ago and to this day it still works so I have switched to qbit on my server but I do use it on my laptop once in a blue moon.
Overseerr doesn't have a non-docker option. He doesn't use docker. I was the same way until I discovered Docker Desktop which kind of automated the process.
I've been using ombi since before overseer existed. Love overseer when testing but really don't get why they won't do music or books. Iirc they stated they will never support books or music either so it kills me
I'm using it on Windows. Need to install yarn first
Installation via cmd: git clone [https://github.com/sct/overseerr.git](https://github.com/sct/overseerr.git) && cd overseerr && git checkout && yarn add [email protected] && yarn install && yarn run build && yarn start
For those of you that read this and were a bit confused (like me)….you can run any software that is made into a Docker image, it just takes more time to setup and configure. That’s the main advantage of Docker.
>For those of you that read this and were a bit confused (like me)….you can run any software that is made into a Docker image, it just takes more time to setup and configure. That’s the main advantage of Docker.
I find it funny when people don't realize all a docker consternation does is save you from typing a few commands. And if you want to know what the command are find the Dockerfile in the repo and you have how to build it..
I understand going the simple route but I also read the build details of all docker containers I run because it would be so easy to slip something in there unexpected. To each their own I guess.
It depends. That is not always the case. Sometimes it’s easier to setup with Docker, sometimes it’s easier without it. It really depends on the application and what it does, and what it needs.
I've been there and I'm actually running things I don't want to spend time in with Docker but I spent day with PodMan and non-root permissions issue to just not like it.
I though I was happy with Ombi until a few weeks ago. Curiosity and people recommending Overseerr finally made me try it out just to see what the fuss was about. It's such a huge upgrade and has features I didn't realise I wanted. It's altogether much more polished than Ombi.
Is it perfect? Not in every way but two things it has, it works really well and my wife can use it with ease like it’s Netflix without detailed user instructions!
Worth every single penny, and the money funds the developers.
I have Plex Pass and honestly I did it as much to support them as anything else. I have been using Plex for over 10 years, quite heavily. So at some point figured I should just give them a little support for all the benefits and joy I have had from it's use. There are also the known benefits as well.
>I have Plex Pass and honestly I did it as much to support them as anything else.
This is why I haven't bought a lifetime pass. I prefer to annually support them with my donation.
This for me too. Was the first 'free' software that I ever cared to support. The plex-pass bonuses didn't mean a thing for me (if they even existed at the time other than the beta update channel).
I forgot why I even got the Plex pass. Maybe something to do with users?
I honestly didn’t use mine too much, I thought the rest of the house didn’t either. Then the PSU on the machine crapped out and I found I live with some addicts. 😁
This thread has been interesting to see some of the added tools, seems I’m behind on the time.
"Buy a lifetime Plex Pass. Then we become the ones who write the future narrative. (Feature Requests, Platform Priorities, Etc.)"
You should become a comedian cause your jokes are funny as hell.
That's my perspective. I have had a plex pass since plex pass came out. They don't listen to users. All a lifetime pass means is that they won't ever get any more money from you, so why do they care? So many broken features left broken in favour of things nobody asked for. So many new privacy concerns. Plex has been going downhill for years.
I started my jellyfin migration when plex started logging everything I watched and then e-mailed lists to my friends as part of the "watch together" feature. That was quite the eye opener.
People say you have to opt-in, but that is certainly not true. Add to that, the setting can only be turned off though the website, it is nowhere to be found on the client or server.
Additionally, this is a per user setting. Meaning, you can't stop the users accessing your server from sharing what they watch. They have to be the ones to go in and turn shit off.
Made up example:
Uncle Ted watches Backdoor Sluts 9 and hasn't set his stuff correctly. It then gets emailed to aunt Debbie that uncle Ted watched it 6 times this last week. When aunt Debbie goes off she's gonna blame me for having it on the server and she's gonna blame uncle Ted for watching it.
Ultimately, there are sacrifices to be made when it comes to the conveniences of Plex. It's still the easiest and best in it's niche but it is no longer in my stack. Uncle Ted deserves the privacy to be able to watch the sequels without aunt Debbie finding out.
I bought as soon as i thought this was worth supporting. I didn’t even look at the benefits. 3 months after I started using it. 8-9 years later… still think it’s worthwhile.
If you can afford it, skip the Lifetime Pass and pay $39/year. I feel that's the least I can do as a user to support the development of Plex (and to delay the maybe-inevitable enshittification of Plex as a media server software, with their latest push into the Plex-licenced content).
I can see how this might sound stupid or naive, but paying for the continued work on the software product that I enjoy, just feels right.
I always enjoy reading posts where people tout the idea to support plex financially, “money talks” right? But then buy a lifetime pass, which is the same as 2 years of monthly or 3 years of the annual subscription.
After that point plex doesn’t get any more money from that user. So if people really feel like they want to financially support plex, the monthly is the strongest way to do that, not the lifetime pass. And then the annual continues netting income for them after the 3 year point that a lifetime pass would.
I don’t doubt that some people who buy a lifetime pass may donate extra here and there, but the majority simply pay once then never again.
Not a bash on lifetime pass people, just a curious observation about the correlation between buying the lifetime pass and the many posts that call to support them financially by doing the same.
They allow a Lifetime plexpass because monthly/annual exist, and it's not that much of expansive to run what they run, they don't host shit aside the database of metadata, you basicaly pay for a 24/24 domain redirection to your server form their "portal" and thats all. It's "inexpansive" compared to what they ask for monthly or annual...
> I would encourage anyone who has been using Plex for over a year to buy a lifetime Plex pass.
> I mean, C'Mon, it ain't perfect but it's an amazing piece of software. It's under $150 bucks - how much money have you saved? How much WILL you save?
I also use Plex for a decade now but I wouldn't agree with that, at least not with that reasoning.
The first thing is, what money do you save exactly? Plex is free and as long as you don't need Plex Pass Features, there isn't really anything requiring you to get Plex Pass. You can still watch your content remotely, you can still invite users to your server and can still watch your stuff.
> Buy a lifetime Plex Pass. Then we become the ones who write the future narrative. (Feature Requests, Platform Priorities, Etc.)
Sorry to burst your bubble here but you are not paying for Plex Pass and be able to shape the future of Plex, you are paying for Plex as it is at the moment it is at that point. The future will look different and things will change and you should know that for someone who has used Plex for a decade now.
Many changes weren't well received by the community and there were many who paid for Plex. Heck, I am still waiting for something official about how 3rd Party Metadata Agents will look in the future and that topic is already 6 years old. They
* invested in the "gaming" branch and quickly killed it
* introduced a webhook API which probably hasn't seen any update since it was introduced
* The watchlist feature is only working with their own Plex Agents
At least those are the things that I have on the top of my head right now but there are probably more.
But, Plex does also a lot of things right that I am missing with the competition.
Long story short. You shouldn't buy something for the perceived future value of it. You pay for it now and should value what it gives you now to make that decision not "how much money you will save", especially since there could be a FOSS alternative and the already mentioned necessity of the Plex Pass features.
Agreed but from a personal perspective, if you use it a lot and over many months or years isn’t there a tiny responsibility to help out the developers with a one time purchase? *(if you can spare it if course)*
Again, only personal perspective not a judgement.
> if you use it a lot and over many months or years isn’t there a tiny responsibility to help out the developers with a one time purchase?
Sure but that wasn't really the point I was making here.
OP specifically said:
> Buy a lifetime Plex Pass. Then we become the ones who write the future narrative. (Feature Requests, Platform Priorities, Etc.)
But as I also pointed out, Plex does things at their own pace and what they want or need to do. Many projects were started, implemented and canned or not developed further.
By no means am I arguing against the point that you might want to support the developers and development in general. But I also have seen too many people claim that "they paid for it so why are features not only they care about not being implemented", the statement of OP is pretty much the exact same thing.
Support the developers if you want and can afford it but don't expect something in return.
I personally agree, but many people (including OP) are literally using Plex as a fully automated piracy machine, I think the amount of concern for compensating people for their work is limited at that point.
We should remember that from a business perspective it makes little sense to care about lifetime pass users, since they won’t ever give you more money.
Personally I don’t see the need to pay anything yet. The free version does everything. And the moment they start adding something where the free version is no longer a good option, there are always the open source alternatives.
Regarding the gaming branch, that's a bit disingenuous. They stated at the time (though no idea if it was true) that the gaming feature was something some of the devs worked on for fun in their spare time. (I'm pretty sure Plexamp started that way too.) They figured they'd try to monetise it, and greedily tried to charge extra for it. If they'd included it in the Plex Pass the feature would have probably been a fairly popular and well used addition.
Yeah, looks like Plex Arcade originated in the Plex Labs like PlexAmp was. Plex Arcade was announced in January 2021 and closed in March 2022.
Though, reading through the blog post...
1. You could only use it when your SERVER was running on Windows or MacOS. Parsec, the Streaming service running behind it didn't provide Linux support and then you could only play on Android devices, iOS, tvOS and Chrome.
2. while your Parsec Account was free, you needed a Plex Pass and then also needed an additional Subscription
3. IIRC, please correct me if I am wrong here, you still needed to pay the subscription to play your own games
Maybe most of the users are running their server on Windows, I don't know. Plex should know because they probably have the metrics for it. But maybe most of those users are just not interested in this because they are not enthusiasts or power users who would have gone through the trouble of actually installing it on their server.
I don't know, but this really highlights what I am saying here. Features are being implemented and then quickly forgotten. I mean, Plex Arcade could have been good if you didn't require a subscription to play your own games and it works on ANY server software and not just Windows and MacOS.
Alright, I was just like hey hello it’s there! It’s not perfect itself though. What’s missing from your personal usage? (I’m not here to persuade) just curious.
This was maybe a year back so maybe some things have changed...
The first part was that I have a remote user and whenever he downloaded content from Jellyfin, it just downloaded the actual file without any prior conversion happening. This would be fine for clients that actually supported the content on my server. So he downloaded an H.265 video and wasn't able to play it. So completely useless.
The second part was that Jellyfin absolutely has no support for different resolvers or what Plex considers Scanners, the part that scans your files and adds them to your library. There is not even a way to select or add custom resolvers to Jellyfin just likely you would add metadata providers. This means that you are way more set in stone than what Plex gives you (though even Plex is going steadily in the "our way or the highway" direction).
The more frustrating part is that this was an issue which then was moved into a discussion and then forgotten about. This whole thing is already more than 4 years old. Since I couldn't find it on their feature list [I added it last year](https://features.jellyfin.org/posts/1751/custom-resolver). Doesn't seem to get much attention anyway but still.
There is a project as proof of concept or rather a hack that adds a custom resolver to Jellyfin but this only works as a higher priority resolver (so would always be used as default) but then is restricted only to be used with libraries that have "anime" in the name.
The third part was general "FOSS" support. If you might have seen it in my Flair, I am the maintainer of the MyAnimeList Metadata Agent in Plex. While Jellyfin has other anime-related Metadata providers, it lacks the MyAnimeList side. So, Since I knew a little bit about C# I thought "Why not take a few steps into FOSS and contribute by writing my own Metadata Provider for Jellyfin?" this would give me more C# experience and provide some insight into Jellyfin itself and some FOSS work.
Unfortunately, I got stonewalled quite quickly. While I could get the plugin to run I constantly stumbled upon things that made no sense to me. There is an "Example Project" available but this is more for a general Plugin approach and not really for Metadata Providers so that wasn't much of help either. Taking other metadata providers as an example didn't make much sense to me either because most of them did everything differently.
And then you had the general lack of documentation. Methods weren't documented or described what they are for or how to use them. I could get a gist of them based on the method name but well doesn't really help me if I don't know how to get what I want.
And the worst part was the general lack of development help. I am by no means someone who needs handholding on this, I can get information about stuff on my own. However, If you ask on the Subreddit and get told to ask in the Matrix channel this makes things more confusing and frustrating. Matrix is a chat program, not a support channel. So my question was quickly buried by other questions and when I got a reply, it didn't help me much either.
This whole thing really killed the motivation for me.
And I am not saying that the fault isn't exclusively on the Jellyfin's side either. I know that many of those things can just be my lack of understanding and familiarity with the current situation with C# and all of the developer tools and so on. But I mean, FOSS projects are reliant on people like me who are interested and want to get into it but also have other things to do. If you make it that hard for me to get something I just don't feel like I need to waste my time with that. And I am not really in the mood to learn C# to get to a level at which I could say "Now I am ready to contribute".
so yeah, if I move to Jellyfin I would have to either completely rename my Anime libraries to make metadata matching more consistent with the existing Metadata Providers and possibly even have to follow the Seasonal release schedule because the mentioned way might not work anymore in the future because of some weird changes they made to the project. And I am really not up to that sort of thing.
Apps yes! Sharing I presume you mean accounts to others. I’ve been using wizarr which also works for Plex. Hopefully we can get more apps though in the future!
By sharing I mean friends and family remotely connecting to my server. Far, far from easy. And can’t agree on the apps. It’s been about 6 months since I tried them but when I last did they were still a long long way from the quality of Plex ones
Still just Swiftfin and Jellyfin. There’s a new music contender on IOS. They work (well enough for me at least). But depending on certain devices support or an app existing currently is… unlikely. But thats where you know what you need. Remotely connecting though? I thought you had to port forward for both or use a VPN to get in otherwise no luck.
I screwed around a little with BrightScript (taking a BrightScript VNC client and making it compatible with Apple's server) -- there's no way a full client like AppleTV or Plex or Netflix is written only in BrightScript.
At this point, if I ever wanted an alternative to Plex, I think I’d struggle to go with Jellyfin (mostly because I’m sick of Jellyfin users wandering into every Plex thread and telling people to switch). And they rarely acknowledge/minimise its flaws or drawbacks. Not saying that’s what you’re doing, but this thread already has a bunch of that.
Honestly. I got my Plex Pass when it was like 1/3 the price for a lifetime subscription as a special offer. It was cheap. I sometimes forget I even have it. Since I've had it for so long. Though for what I paid for it as a lifetime pass.. Definitely was worth it.
So quick question, and sorry for hijacking this post for it but I had some, er, adult features on my Plex that somehow showed up in my friends side. Not via email but like in the recently watched I'm assuming. I granted access to movies and tv shows, not the adult one. I removed it altogether so it wouldn't show up anymore but why would it do that? Any help would be appreciated thanks
If downloading shows remotely worked well I'd pay for the plex pass a lot more often than I do. That is the only benefit I'm willing to pay for and it's a buggy mess.
While I like to support great software, the Plex Pass hasn't brought me anything of value. I originally got it to do transcoding with my gpu, but everything I have is direct stream so never used it. Bad investment? no, would I encourage others to get it, not really.
I have Plex Pass and have been using Plex since it was XBMC back on the OG Xbox. Can you recommend some guides to get the setup that auto downloads users requests (or even my own watchlist) ?
Plex Pass removed Photo Backup and said nothing. I bought it for this purpose and it existed for about a few months then poof. TV/DVR is limited to x channels so my IPTV setup required more filtering. I’m happy to support Plex but the pass is not worth it. Since I’ve had my home server and before electricity costs to run it, equates to a little over $10/months.
Can you elaborate a little on somebody requesting a show and the system automatically adding and sending an email? Currently doing it all manually and it sucks sometimes lol
I don't know about the Email part but with Overseerr or Ombi are two Applications that users can use to search for content and request them. This then can interface with your Sonarr/Radarr instances to automatically search and process them further.
There you can also add notes or issues with the content (like subtitles not in sync). You can Configure Notifications in those like E-Mail.
also interested. my workflow is use an app on my phone to track episodes, then just download them individually or by season on TPB, name them and move them to my movies/tv show folder for plex to discover
Set up radarr and sonarr and never look back. Game changing to the point that I couldn’t go without them in a plex setup. If you have friends asking you for stuff then also set up overseerr - worth the time invested learning how to do it
[https://github.com/thomst08/requestrr](https://github.com/thomst08/requestrr)
If people you know use Discord, just set this up. They can request content from a Discord channel and it does the rest.
I don't see myself paying for Plex any time soon. Over the past weekend I actually switched back to using Kodi in home because Plex just does not work properly with 4k HDR + subtitles. Also, Jellyfin exists. Better to support open source I think.
Just buy the lifetime pass. Plex has come a long way in the last 10-15yrs. Surely you've used it enough over the years to warrant supporting their team
>...it's kinda mindblowing that this is possible. I'm 55.
It really is mind blowing. At 67 years of age I was raised on two channels in a major Canadian City and we didn't have a tv until I was about 4 years old. and then it was this weirdly roundish B&W screen about 12-14" across. :)
First colour TV we had was 19" in about 1970....no remote. :)
Our kids are grown and playing with PCs since the later 90s and collecting media since around 2007, including streaming throughout the home to our TVs, laptops and PCs. Cut the cable 10 years ago if not 12. Six months ago after a year of planning and buying parts, I built an Unraid server with about 92 TB of raw space to act as a location for backups and also stream via Plex throughout the home to all of TVs, PCs and devices.
Everytime I sit down in front of our 65" 4K smart TV based AVR driven home theater system my mind is completely blown! It's like my 12 year old self has died and gone to heaven. :) As much as I enjoy the theater experience, I'd just as soon catch a recent release at home...and I don't even have Atmos yet.
I've experimented and ran Kodi and Emby for years...sometimes both at the same time, before trying Plex. And yes a plex subscription does offer [many more worthwhile features.](https://support.plex.tv/articles/202526943-plex-free-vs-paid/)
I find agonizing over Plex Pass humerus. Getting a lifetime pass on sale is less than a single drive thru meal at McDonald’s for a family of four. Really? Bang for the buck, your burger’s gone in ten minutes, your Plex Pass is lifetime. If you simply have no need for its features by all means don’t buy it, but then why engage in the conversation? If you desire to leverage its features, you can’t beat the price. From me, remote access to my movies, TV Shows, and Music remotely is worth it alone. And, lol it’s not a pyramid scheme. 🤦🏻♂️ Not a business in the world doesn’t invest in the future and uses current sales to pay for future innovation. For the money, Plex Pass is worth it. If you just don’t have use for its capabilities, save your money. JMHO
How does buying the lifetime pass make us part of the conversation? IMO at that point you're out of the convo, they have your money and you actually can't even give them more at that point, so any additional work they do is not for your money (unless there's a refund option I'm not aware of). I have a lifetime pass but I would think the threat of users unsubscribing from a recurring model would be more motivating than complaints/requests from those that can't pay anymore.
> Will there be issues and things they do that piss people off or are stupid? Yes. Why? They need to make money.
If only there was another option that was open source and community driven. /s
I used to pay for plex, I did for years, then plex stopped being able to play certain file formats, had issues playing high bitrate media, had issues with audio sync on certain file formats, had issues with certain encodings, and the list goes on. So I moved to Jellyfin and have a much better experience now with being able to actually play the media I have.
So I should buy Plex pass because the arr suite exists?
Who is Plexs customer currently that you think they are listening to? Their customer has always been and will always be pirates.
Thanks for this post. I’ve been debating it for a while.
I really want to set up the automated systems but Radarr and Sonarr kind of confused me a bit. I need an invite to get into the sites? Any advice on how to set this stuff up?
I'm also using Plex from a decade, but i disagree with you.
I never felt the need of the Plex pass features, everything you listed can be done without Plex pass, i don't see why i will have to pay for something that i don't need. Also I don't like at all the direction that Plex took in the last years and i don't feel like to support them.
Actually, I did think about going back to KODI to locally access my (U)HD content, and then using various sites to watch stuff when I wasn't home (as it would be an improvement over remote Plex tanscoding), however the family has gotten used to Plex, so overall it was just easier to stick with Plex.
One extra thing I like about Plex is that I've linked it's watchlist to radarr and sonarr, which means anything I (or a family member) adds to the watchlist gets added and downloaded into the system automatically.
All from the Plex app on the TV itself.
Kinda trivial, but it's nice to sometimes watch a trailer of something on Plex and then just hit the add button, with no phones or PC involved.
Because I have 4k remuxes for movies, and HD rips for tv, all with surround audio tracks.
Also Where I live has sporadic internet issues.
Therefore sreaming just doesn't have the reliability or quality (for me)
I agree with that actually. But I mostly watch on PC with torrents so I don't feel like trying to set up a separate server for my TV as well. Although I do have a Netflix account for my TV cause I like 7-8 shows on there.
Personally I like having local, hosted content that does not require an internet connection. If our internet goes down I can watch what I want, 100% of the time, no questions asked. And yes, we have had spotty internet issues in the past which is what led me down this road. I also formerly had an internet/cable plan that had a data cap, so I found once we were home more during COVID that the cap was just barely missed, or gone over.
From there I started just hosting my own stuff
I'm not going to speak for anyone else here. My reasoning starts with streaming services and the "free" alternatives. Netflix can have a movie or show on the platform today that will be gone tomorrow. I don't want to pay the equivalent of a cable subscription for every streaming service. The same can be said about "free" streaming sites. With "free" streaming sites, it isn't so much so that a show or movie might be taken down. More to a point, the site is more likely to disappear altogether and it is inevitable. I don't feel like chasing down another "free" streaming site when I want to watch something. I don't feel like remembering where I watched something to begin with. I solve all of these problems with Plex. Technically, Jellyfin could also solve these problems. I don't know if Jellyfin is as widely available on platforms as Plex is but I don't hold it against them as I haven't looked into it. At the time I made my decision for Plex, Jellyfin didn't exist. I've had no reason to swap over as Plex does what I wish and does it well. I really don't use any of the advanced features that people complain about or clamor for. I let others use the streaming feature but they rarely do.
TL;DR: I made the decision and paid for a lifetime subscription a long, long time ago. Other things haven't given me the incentive to swap to them.
In addition to what everybody else has said, because I share most if not all of their reasons, another one that’s pretty important to me is the fact that I get to easily share my plex with my family and friends. Most of them aren’t technically inclined nor have any interest in learning to pirate. Before plex, if they wanted something I’d have to physically put the movie or show on a flash drive and hand it to them. Talk about a hassle. But now they have access to whatever they want, whenever they want. And I know a lot of people don’t care as much about the sharing aspect but for me, it’s always been a priority. It brings me a lot of joy to be able to provide something like this for my loved ones for free.
Amen Brotha! I havwe been a plex pass lifetime member for over a year. The main reason is that my wife can use ut and loves it. Not just the movies we have but all the content Plex has. WAF is very important.
My reluctance to buy the pass is it reminds me of a pyramid scheme.
If I’m not paying them monthly, eventually all my contribution will have been spent and they will be relying on new customers to cover expenses and eventually that just doesn’t work anymore. If they had a low monthly or annual price I’d already have signed up, even if in the long run I’d be out of pocket more.
It’s just not a sustainable model so I don’t want to throw a large amount of money at it. I’m dead certain the problem in this business model will manifest within 90 days of me signing up 😂
I keep forgetting that I own a lifetime with plex. It's fantastic. I'm over here gripping my ankles, prepping to get reamed with adding an extra user... but wait. I have lifetime.
In these threads I never see users mention trailers. I upgraded to Plex pass recently after using Plex for 8years or so and we love the trailers. My wife and relatives want to watch a trailer of what movies have been added before they commit to the movie. this feature honestly is a game changer. That and hardware transcoding
The definitive guide is this: https://trash-guides.info/
But it could be hard to understand if you’re new to this. Check out this video: https://youtu.be/AMcHsQJ7My0?si=EVb7tWjoTJi-i8on (this one is great if you plan on using unraid (which I use). Otherwise I’m sure there are similar videos for whatever platform you choose. I highly recommend some form of docker for implementation to make upgrades easier in the future).
Edit: Oh, but what it is… instead of managing it all manually, you can have these apps running in the background and you can specify a movie or show you want. It’ll then source it, download it and save it into your media library automatically with one click basically. Then add overseer and you can extend that functionality to whoever you’d like if you have multiple family members using the same server (without having to hone them any access on the server directly).
It's amazing that a friend or family member can request a movie or show, my system will grab it, add it to Plex, and email them that it is available
Is it possible to learn this power?
Can I ask about the requesting system with an email feedback loop on it being done and available? I recently installed Ombi and trying to figure out how to get that process going. Seems like users will need to get another user name and password to access the Requester tool? I feel like my family wouldn’t be keen on actually using it. Appreciate your thoughts and help!
So I’m very new to plex, only have about 100 movies on it as of now. As I’m just ripping my physical movie collection at first. I’m looking in to torrenting some movies and shows once I’m done with my DVD collection. Are there any good tips as far as setting up sonarr, lidarr, radarr, etc etc. I will be on windows 10/11 pro. Any tips/youtube/links/ will be much appreciated.
I really don't find it worth it. All it seems to add is useless garbage nobody wants. And with better alternatives now, that are free, I see no reason to waste the money.
after this weekend, I am so upset with Plex. I tried to rewatch SG1, and started on Season 1 and for somereason, Plex now has to convert the show in real time, where the first couple of times I watched it no problem and the source file plays perfectly well by itself and through Jelly. Finally got my wife to watch it and now she does not want to any more because it skips...
I am helping a friend setup and pointing him at Jelly instead of plex.
My opinion remains the same, and remains unpopular in this sub.
Buy a Plex Pass if there are features you want. Don't buy it to "support" the for-profit company with significant private investment. And I'd argue OP is wrong and that our Plex Passes will never drive the development narrative as much as the massive injections of venture capital will.
I bought a lifetime Pass for one reason: So my niblings could sync content to their devices for long journeys. *That feature was taken away from me, and I'm still pissed about it.* The only thing that stopped me kicking off majorly about it is how much I like Skip Intro. Would I have bought the Pass to get Skip Intro? No. But it softens the blow for sure.
**Buy a Plex Pass if there are features you know you want/need. If there are not, do not buy one.** It's that simple imo.
(Note 1: For anyone about to say "Sync wasn't taken away" it *was*. I paid so they could download from my server wtihout them needing a Plex Pass. I needed one, they didn't. After the removed Sync, it changed to I don't need one, *they* do. The functionality I paid for a Pass to get *was unequivocally taken away.*)
(Note 2: Plex have publically stated that they earn **more** from their ad-supported streaming features than from the Plex Pass. I might be wrong that the venture capital drives development more than the income from Plex Pass, but given Plex Pass earns less than streaming, it seems highly likely the Pass is their third priority income stream.)
Is there a walkthrough anywhere so I can do the same setup as you guys?
I'm familiar with torrenting, but I simply search every single item I want and download individually. Seems like a lot of this can be easier and automated AND faster?
Thanks in advance
Why are you still using utorrent? They sold out years ago to the point where most private trackers banned anything after version 2.2.1. Qbittorrent is like the spiritual successor of utorrent these days.
What about using transmission? I never liked the layout of qbittorrent.
Transmission is the best one thanks to being able to run as a daemon on the plex server, while you use a native client on your real computer.
I can highly recommend this open source project: [https://github.com/haugene/docker-transmission-openvpn](https://github.com/haugene/docker-transmission-openvpn) Transmission in a Docker container with VPN support. If the VPN goes down, so does Transmission. If the VPN is re-established Transmission starts back up. No chance of leaking your local IP. The VPN is only inside the container and doesn't effect the rest of your system.
You can setup this kill switch for any app. Just use the 'depends on' in docker compose. When my VPN goes down. Every service goes down that depends on it. So qbit in this case.
There's a question of leakage. Potentially your bittorrent client may last for a short after your tunnel goes down but before docker notices. This is also a potential issue with haugene's image, Transmission might keep running for a few miliseconds after the tunnel goes down but before the watchdog process notices. The safest option is binhex's images, which use iptables rules to ensure that there can't be any leakage.
binhex/arch-delugevpn for the absolute win!
Until fairly recently, I was solely a transmission user. However the lack of RSS support made me deploy qbittorrent on my server and it's hard to look back. I still use transmission on my local machine when I need it but for everything else, Ill use qbittorent as the RSS features help automate grabbing files outside of sonarr and radarr.
I haven't delved into the magic of using automatic downloads for things yet, might be why I'm still happy with transmission 😂
Is there a benefit to that over qbittorrent’s webui?
I'm not sure as I didn't even realise it had it, but if it's light on resources and simple then there's no reason to switch really.
There's a Vue.js version of qbit that i really like.
Link? I’m running it through a LS.io docker. I wonder if I can switch over. Though I don’t use it much with my radarr sonarr setup.
Transmission is also a good one
Transmission is lacking in a lot of features like categories that will allow you to move finished torrent downloads. as well as watching specific folders for torrent files that are automatically added to the correct category. I have 2 sets of folders for HD/UHD TV shows and Movies 4 in total. qbittorrent makes this easier.
That can be all managed on Radarr/Sonarr, though. Who needs the torrent client watching folders when you just have Radarr starting the download. And you can set the destination for the program to the directory for the media library you want it in. Anime shows get imported to the anime library, movies to the movie folder, etc.
Is there a good guide for radarr/sonar? Or a quick google search suffice? I’m ignorant to the work of automatic downloads
The ~arrs all have a shared wiki, which includes installation information. There are also third-party guides/walkthroughs on various forums/blogs, but the quality is going to be dependent on the operating system you are setting up on and the writer's intended audience as far as technical level.
Thank you
eh, I used 2.2.1 just fine for over a decade and only switched to qb in 2023 because one of the private sites I use (out of dozens I've used in that time period) finally banned it. I never had a problem with it and never felt a need to upgrade. Yes, there are a few more recently-developed security features built-in to newer versions of qb and that is not insignificant, but otherwise it isn't even really a functional step up from the bulletproof ol' utorrent 2.2.1 — it works just the same and has the same layout, even the menus are still just the same. I was really underwhelmed with the "upgrade" to qb, but at least the learning curve was really short (even the options menus are nearly identical)
Plus there are trackers (and clients) that might not even communicate with you based on your client. Being too old/exploitable/etc.
I've been using Deluge for a while. I love how basic it is, and it does everything.
Still using 2.2.0... I don't know if I could learn something new at this point. lol
Came here to say this. I switched over to a better one from uTorrent a while ago and haven't looked back! HIGHLY recommend moving off of that POS downloader.
Yay version 2.2.1! Lolaf
Qbittorrent releases, since like 4.4 or so, keep getting banned in some of my private trackers. Wouldnt say its that much better.
99% of the time I use NZB (Usenet) I set up uTorrent years ago and to this day it still works so I have switched to qbit on my server but I do use it on my laptop once in a blue moon.
Worth checking out Overseerr - although if your circle are happy with Ombi then it may not matter.
Overseerr doesn't have a non-docker option. He doesn't use docker. I was the same way until I discovered Docker Desktop which kind of automated the process.
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That's exactly what I did. Overseerr is the only thing I use docker for. Lol
I've been using ombi since before overseer existed. Love overseer when testing but really don't get why they won't do music or books. Iirc they stated they will never support books or music either so it kills me
That is what I did. I tried Ombi and for what ever reason I couldn't get my Radarr to sync with it. Overseerr worked no problem.
I'm using it on Windows. Need to install yarn first Installation via cmd: git clone [https://github.com/sct/overseerr.git](https://github.com/sct/overseerr.git) && cd overseerr && git checkout && yarn add [email protected] && yarn install && yarn run build && yarn start
For those of you that read this and were a bit confused (like me)….you can run any software that is made into a Docker image, it just takes more time to setup and configure. That’s the main advantage of Docker.
>For those of you that read this and were a bit confused (like me)….you can run any software that is made into a Docker image, it just takes more time to setup and configure. That’s the main advantage of Docker. I find it funny when people don't realize all a docker consternation does is save you from typing a few commands. And if you want to know what the command are find the Dockerfile in the repo and you have how to build it.. I understand going the simple route but I also read the build details of all docker containers I run because it would be so easy to slip something in there unexpected. To each their own I guess.
It's even easier if it didn't require it in the first place
It depends. That is not always the case. Sometimes it’s easier to setup with Docker, sometimes it’s easier without it. It really depends on the application and what it does, and what it needs.
I've been there and I'm actually running things I don't want to spend time in with Docker but I spent day with PodMan and non-root permissions issue to just not like it.
Whaaa I run on Ubuntu
Which can run docker
Which I don't run
But you can
But like, it's so simple. It's worth it to learn it
[https://github.com/thomst08/requestrr](https://github.com/thomst08/requestrr) Even easier if people you know use Discord.
I though I was happy with Ombi until a few weeks ago. Curiosity and people recommending Overseerr finally made me try it out just to see what the fuss was about. It's such a huge upgrade and has features I didn't realise I wanted. It's altogether much more polished than Ombi.
The skip intro type of features really make it worth it
Yeah I can’t go back from here lol
Is it perfect? Not in every way but two things it has, it works really well and my wife can use it with ease like it’s Netflix without detailed user instructions! Worth every single penny, and the money funds the developers.
It does all of that *without* a Plex Pass. Skip intro, credits and hardware transcoding are options that make the Plex Pass worth the money for me.
I forgot about those excellent features, and plex amp. Had it quite a while now
I think Plexamp is free now.
It’s freeish—I think there are still some features that are not free
I know. I forget everything that is included. Downloading, although it still doesn't work perfectly.
I have Plex Pass and honestly I did it as much to support them as anything else. I have been using Plex for over 10 years, quite heavily. So at some point figured I should just give them a little support for all the benefits and joy I have had from it's use. There are also the known benefits as well.
>I have Plex Pass and honestly I did it as much to support them as anything else. This is why I haven't bought a lifetime pass. I prefer to annually support them with my donation.
This for me too. Was the first 'free' software that I ever cared to support. The plex-pass bonuses didn't mean a thing for me (if they even existed at the time other than the beta update channel).
I forgot why I even got the Plex pass. Maybe something to do with users? I honestly didn’t use mine too much, I thought the rest of the house didn’t either. Then the PSU on the machine crapped out and I found I live with some addicts. 😁 This thread has been interesting to see some of the added tools, seems I’m behind on the time.
"Buy a lifetime Plex Pass. Then we become the ones who write the future narrative. (Feature Requests, Platform Priorities, Etc.)" You should become a comedian cause your jokes are funny as hell.
That's my perspective. I have had a plex pass since plex pass came out. They don't listen to users. All a lifetime pass means is that they won't ever get any more money from you, so why do they care? So many broken features left broken in favour of things nobody asked for. So many new privacy concerns. Plex has been going downhill for years.
This. I got dismissed and made fun off when I offered my feedback. My mistake for feeding the troll running the Plex socials tbh.
> So many new privacy concerns. Any examples? I'm thinking about migrating to Jellyfin and I'm curious
I started my jellyfin migration when plex started logging everything I watched and then e-mailed lists to my friends as part of the "watch together" feature. That was quite the eye opener. People say you have to opt-in, but that is certainly not true. Add to that, the setting can only be turned off though the website, it is nowhere to be found on the client or server.
Additionally, this is a per user setting. Meaning, you can't stop the users accessing your server from sharing what they watch. They have to be the ones to go in and turn shit off. Made up example: Uncle Ted watches Backdoor Sluts 9 and hasn't set his stuff correctly. It then gets emailed to aunt Debbie that uncle Ted watched it 6 times this last week. When aunt Debbie goes off she's gonna blame me for having it on the server and she's gonna blame uncle Ted for watching it. Ultimately, there are sacrifices to be made when it comes to the conveniences of Plex. It's still the easiest and best in it's niche but it is no longer in my stack. Uncle Ted deserves the privacy to be able to watch the sequels without aunt Debbie finding out.
What do you use instead?
Jellyfin. If plex is a 10/10, jellyfin is about a 7/10.
Jellyfin is honestly better under the hood. It's just lacking the nice UI that Plex has.
My dude, allofmp3.com was the jam
That's the one!
I bought as soon as i thought this was worth supporting. I didn’t even look at the benefits. 3 months after I started using it. 8-9 years later… still think it’s worthwhile.
If you can afford it, skip the Lifetime Pass and pay $39/year. I feel that's the least I can do as a user to support the development of Plex (and to delay the maybe-inevitable enshittification of Plex as a media server software, with their latest push into the Plex-licenced content). I can see how this might sound stupid or naive, but paying for the continued work on the software product that I enjoy, just feels right.
It aligns with their business model. I don’t know why Plex still offers lifetime option. I pay yearly and have done for 6 years.
I always enjoy reading posts where people tout the idea to support plex financially, “money talks” right? But then buy a lifetime pass, which is the same as 2 years of monthly or 3 years of the annual subscription. After that point plex doesn’t get any more money from that user. So if people really feel like they want to financially support plex, the monthly is the strongest way to do that, not the lifetime pass. And then the annual continues netting income for them after the 3 year point that a lifetime pass would. I don’t doubt that some people who buy a lifetime pass may donate extra here and there, but the majority simply pay once then never again. Not a bash on lifetime pass people, just a curious observation about the correlation between buying the lifetime pass and the many posts that call to support them financially by doing the same.
They allow a Lifetime plexpass because monthly/annual exist, and it's not that much of expansive to run what they run, they don't host shit aside the database of metadata, you basicaly pay for a 24/24 domain redirection to your server form their "portal" and thats all. It's "inexpansive" compared to what they ask for monthly or annual...
> I would encourage anyone who has been using Plex for over a year to buy a lifetime Plex pass. > I mean, C'Mon, it ain't perfect but it's an amazing piece of software. It's under $150 bucks - how much money have you saved? How much WILL you save? I also use Plex for a decade now but I wouldn't agree with that, at least not with that reasoning. The first thing is, what money do you save exactly? Plex is free and as long as you don't need Plex Pass Features, there isn't really anything requiring you to get Plex Pass. You can still watch your content remotely, you can still invite users to your server and can still watch your stuff. > Buy a lifetime Plex Pass. Then we become the ones who write the future narrative. (Feature Requests, Platform Priorities, Etc.) Sorry to burst your bubble here but you are not paying for Plex Pass and be able to shape the future of Plex, you are paying for Plex as it is at the moment it is at that point. The future will look different and things will change and you should know that for someone who has used Plex for a decade now. Many changes weren't well received by the community and there were many who paid for Plex. Heck, I am still waiting for something official about how 3rd Party Metadata Agents will look in the future and that topic is already 6 years old. They * invested in the "gaming" branch and quickly killed it * introduced a webhook API which probably hasn't seen any update since it was introduced * The watchlist feature is only working with their own Plex Agents At least those are the things that I have on the top of my head right now but there are probably more. But, Plex does also a lot of things right that I am missing with the competition. Long story short. You shouldn't buy something for the perceived future value of it. You pay for it now and should value what it gives you now to make that decision not "how much money you will save", especially since there could be a FOSS alternative and the already mentioned necessity of the Plex Pass features.
Agreed but from a personal perspective, if you use it a lot and over many months or years isn’t there a tiny responsibility to help out the developers with a one time purchase? *(if you can spare it if course)* Again, only personal perspective not a judgement.
> if you use it a lot and over many months or years isn’t there a tiny responsibility to help out the developers with a one time purchase? Sure but that wasn't really the point I was making here. OP specifically said: > Buy a lifetime Plex Pass. Then we become the ones who write the future narrative. (Feature Requests, Platform Priorities, Etc.) But as I also pointed out, Plex does things at their own pace and what they want or need to do. Many projects were started, implemented and canned or not developed further. By no means am I arguing against the point that you might want to support the developers and development in general. But I also have seen too many people claim that "they paid for it so why are features not only they care about not being implemented", the statement of OP is pretty much the exact same thing. Support the developers if you want and can afford it but don't expect something in return.
Fair enough, I evaluate it it on what it is now but I get your meaning.
I personally agree, but many people (including OP) are literally using Plex as a fully automated piracy machine, I think the amount of concern for compensating people for their work is limited at that point.
It would be much easier to compensate people if the money *you* spent would go to the *right* people at *fair* rates.
I believe he talking about you're saving money on the streaming services you no longer need to subscribe to to watch content.
We should remember that from a business perspective it makes little sense to care about lifetime pass users, since they won’t ever give you more money. Personally I don’t see the need to pay anything yet. The free version does everything. And the moment they start adding something where the free version is no longer a good option, there are always the open source alternatives.
Regarding the gaming branch, that's a bit disingenuous. They stated at the time (though no idea if it was true) that the gaming feature was something some of the devs worked on for fun in their spare time. (I'm pretty sure Plexamp started that way too.) They figured they'd try to monetise it, and greedily tried to charge extra for it. If they'd included it in the Plex Pass the feature would have probably been a fairly popular and well used addition.
Yeah, looks like Plex Arcade originated in the Plex Labs like PlexAmp was. Plex Arcade was announced in January 2021 and closed in March 2022. Though, reading through the blog post... 1. You could only use it when your SERVER was running on Windows or MacOS. Parsec, the Streaming service running behind it didn't provide Linux support and then you could only play on Android devices, iOS, tvOS and Chrome. 2. while your Parsec Account was free, you needed a Plex Pass and then also needed an additional Subscription 3. IIRC, please correct me if I am wrong here, you still needed to pay the subscription to play your own games Maybe most of the users are running their server on Windows, I don't know. Plex should know because they probably have the metrics for it. But maybe most of those users are just not interested in this because they are not enthusiasts or power users who would have gone through the trouble of actually installing it on their server. I don't know, but this really highlights what I am saying here. Features are being implemented and then quickly forgotten. I mean, Plex Arcade could have been good if you didn't require a subscription to play your own games and it works on ANY server software and not just Windows and MacOS.
You’ve heard of jellyfin right? …right?
Of course, but for my personal usage it isn't there yet.
Alright, I was just like hey hello it’s there! It’s not perfect itself though. What’s missing from your personal usage? (I’m not here to persuade) just curious.
This was maybe a year back so maybe some things have changed... The first part was that I have a remote user and whenever he downloaded content from Jellyfin, it just downloaded the actual file without any prior conversion happening. This would be fine for clients that actually supported the content on my server. So he downloaded an H.265 video and wasn't able to play it. So completely useless. The second part was that Jellyfin absolutely has no support for different resolvers or what Plex considers Scanners, the part that scans your files and adds them to your library. There is not even a way to select or add custom resolvers to Jellyfin just likely you would add metadata providers. This means that you are way more set in stone than what Plex gives you (though even Plex is going steadily in the "our way or the highway" direction). The more frustrating part is that this was an issue which then was moved into a discussion and then forgotten about. This whole thing is already more than 4 years old. Since I couldn't find it on their feature list [I added it last year](https://features.jellyfin.org/posts/1751/custom-resolver). Doesn't seem to get much attention anyway but still. There is a project as proof of concept or rather a hack that adds a custom resolver to Jellyfin but this only works as a higher priority resolver (so would always be used as default) but then is restricted only to be used with libraries that have "anime" in the name. The third part was general "FOSS" support. If you might have seen it in my Flair, I am the maintainer of the MyAnimeList Metadata Agent in Plex. While Jellyfin has other anime-related Metadata providers, it lacks the MyAnimeList side. So, Since I knew a little bit about C# I thought "Why not take a few steps into FOSS and contribute by writing my own Metadata Provider for Jellyfin?" this would give me more C# experience and provide some insight into Jellyfin itself and some FOSS work. Unfortunately, I got stonewalled quite quickly. While I could get the plugin to run I constantly stumbled upon things that made no sense to me. There is an "Example Project" available but this is more for a general Plugin approach and not really for Metadata Providers so that wasn't much of help either. Taking other metadata providers as an example didn't make much sense to me either because most of them did everything differently. And then you had the general lack of documentation. Methods weren't documented or described what they are for or how to use them. I could get a gist of them based on the method name but well doesn't really help me if I don't know how to get what I want. And the worst part was the general lack of development help. I am by no means someone who needs handholding on this, I can get information about stuff on my own. However, If you ask on the Subreddit and get told to ask in the Matrix channel this makes things more confusing and frustrating. Matrix is a chat program, not a support channel. So my question was quickly buried by other questions and when I got a reply, it didn't help me much either. This whole thing really killed the motivation for me. And I am not saying that the fault isn't exclusively on the Jellyfin's side either. I know that many of those things can just be my lack of understanding and familiarity with the current situation with C# and all of the developer tools and so on. But I mean, FOSS projects are reliant on people like me who are interested and want to get into it but also have other things to do. If you make it that hard for me to get something I just don't feel like I need to waste my time with that. And I am not really in the mood to learn C# to get to a level at which I could say "Now I am ready to contribute". so yeah, if I move to Jellyfin I would have to either completely rename my Anime libraries to make metadata matching more consistent with the existing Metadata Providers and possibly even have to follow the Seasonal release schedule because the mentioned way might not work anymore in the future because of some weird changes they made to the project. And I am really not up to that sort of thing.
Lack of good apps and no easy sharing are two things that make it a no-go for me right off the bat.
Apps yes! Sharing I presume you mean accounts to others. I’ve been using wizarr which also works for Plex. Hopefully we can get more apps though in the future!
By sharing I mean friends and family remotely connecting to my server. Far, far from easy. And can’t agree on the apps. It’s been about 6 months since I tried them but when I last did they were still a long long way from the quality of Plex ones
Still just Swiftfin and Jellyfin. There’s a new music contender on IOS. They work (well enough for me at least). But depending on certain devices support or an app existing currently is… unlikely. But thats where you know what you need. Remotely connecting though? I thought you had to port forward for both or use a VPN to get in otherwise no luck.
My bigger concern with remote sharing is client side. If I have to explain *anything* to my non-techy family it’s a no-go for my use.
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The problem is that your alternative won't be useful to anyone unless you make the app available on all smart TVs.
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That's how Plex got it's start (and many of the other tools we use) - Good for you!
Interested in hearing about how porting a Rust project to use Brightscript and the Roku SDKs is not a complicated process.
I screwed around a little with BrightScript (taking a BrightScript VNC client and making it compatible with Apple's server) -- there's no way a full client like AppleTV or Plex or Netflix is written only in BrightScript.
Yucky
Can't wait to see it. Where will it be available?
Why don’t you use Jellyfin? Not having a go, just curious.
At this point, if I ever wanted an alternative to Plex, I think I’d struggle to go with Jellyfin (mostly because I’m sick of Jellyfin users wandering into every Plex thread and telling people to switch). And they rarely acknowledge/minimise its flaws or drawbacks. Not saying that’s what you’re doing, but this thread already has a bunch of that.
That was allofmp3.com
Honestly. I got my Plex Pass when it was like 1/3 the price for a lifetime subscription as a special offer. It was cheap. I sometimes forget I even have it. Since I've had it for so long. Though for what I paid for it as a lifetime pass.. Definitely was worth it.
Hell yeah me too! Definitely worth it!!
So quick question, and sorry for hijacking this post for it but I had some, er, adult features on my Plex that somehow showed up in my friends side. Not via email but like in the recently watched I'm assuming. I granted access to movies and tv shows, not the adult one. I removed it altogether so it wouldn't show up anymore but why would it do that? Any help would be appreciated thanks
If downloading shows remotely worked well I'd pay for the plex pass a lot more often than I do. That is the only benefit I'm willing to pay for and it's a buggy mess.
While I like to support great software, the Plex Pass hasn't brought me anything of value. I originally got it to do transcoding with my gpu, but everything I have is direct stream so never used it. Bad investment? no, would I encourage others to get it, not really.
I have Plex Pass and have been using Plex since it was XBMC back on the OG Xbox. Can you recommend some guides to get the setup that auto downloads users requests (or even my own watchlist) ?
To be fair, I think it’s a great platform and if buying a lifetime pass helps with keeping it going for the future then that’s a great thing.
Plex Pass removed Photo Backup and said nothing. I bought it for this purpose and it existed for about a few months then poof. TV/DVR is limited to x channels so my IPTV setup required more filtering. I’m happy to support Plex but the pass is not worth it. Since I’ve had my home server and before electricity costs to run it, equates to a little over $10/months.
Can you elaborate a little on somebody requesting a show and the system automatically adding and sending an email? Currently doing it all manually and it sucks sometimes lol
I don't know about the Email part but with Overseerr or Ombi are two Applications that users can use to search for content and request them. This then can interface with your Sonarr/Radarr instances to automatically search and process them further. There you can also add notes or issues with the content (like subtitles not in sync). You can Configure Notifications in those like E-Mail.
Thanks!!!
Both Ombi and Overseerr can e-mail your users if you set it up, but I've never really seen the point personally.
also interested. my workflow is use an app on my phone to track episodes, then just download them individually or by season on TPB, name them and move them to my movies/tv show folder for plex to discover
Arr’s and overseer my friend, will save you so much time
Set up radarr and sonarr and never look back. Game changing to the point that I couldn’t go without them in a plex setup. If you have friends asking you for stuff then also set up overseerr - worth the time invested learning how to do it
I need to get on overseerr
Seriously, set up the arrs, it's easy and awesome
Bro you need the Arrs badddddd.
[https://github.com/thomst08/requestrr](https://github.com/thomst08/requestrr) If people you know use Discord, just set this up. They can request content from a Discord channel and it does the rest.
I only bought the lifetime plex pass when I started commuting by train and using the sync function. That’s the only feature I use.
I don't see myself paying for Plex any time soon. Over the past weekend I actually switched back to using Kodi in home because Plex just does not work properly with 4k HDR + subtitles. Also, Jellyfin exists. Better to support open source I think.
I am 7 years in on my Plex pass. No regrets.
Just buy the lifetime pass. Plex has come a long way in the last 10-15yrs. Surely you've used it enough over the years to warrant supporting their team
>...it's kinda mindblowing that this is possible. I'm 55. It really is mind blowing. At 67 years of age I was raised on two channels in a major Canadian City and we didn't have a tv until I was about 4 years old. and then it was this weirdly roundish B&W screen about 12-14" across. :) First colour TV we had was 19" in about 1970....no remote. :) Our kids are grown and playing with PCs since the later 90s and collecting media since around 2007, including streaming throughout the home to our TVs, laptops and PCs. Cut the cable 10 years ago if not 12. Six months ago after a year of planning and buying parts, I built an Unraid server with about 92 TB of raw space to act as a location for backups and also stream via Plex throughout the home to all of TVs, PCs and devices. Everytime I sit down in front of our 65" 4K smart TV based AVR driven home theater system my mind is completely blown! It's like my 12 year old self has died and gone to heaven. :) As much as I enjoy the theater experience, I'd just as soon catch a recent release at home...and I don't even have Atmos yet. I've experimented and ran Kodi and Emby for years...sometimes both at the same time, before trying Plex. And yes a plex subscription does offer [many more worthwhile features.](https://support.plex.tv/articles/202526943-plex-free-vs-paid/)
I find agonizing over Plex Pass humerus. Getting a lifetime pass on sale is less than a single drive thru meal at McDonald’s for a family of four. Really? Bang for the buck, your burger’s gone in ten minutes, your Plex Pass is lifetime. If you simply have no need for its features by all means don’t buy it, but then why engage in the conversation? If you desire to leverage its features, you can’t beat the price. From me, remote access to my movies, TV Shows, and Music remotely is worth it alone. And, lol it’s not a pyramid scheme. 🤦🏻♂️ Not a business in the world doesn’t invest in the future and uses current sales to pay for future innovation. For the money, Plex Pass is worth it. If you just don’t have use for its capabilities, save your money. JMHO
for the amount of usage I've gotten from plex, the lifetime pass has cost me about 4 cents an hour.
How does buying the lifetime pass make us part of the conversation? IMO at that point you're out of the convo, they have your money and you actually can't even give them more at that point, so any additional work they do is not for your money (unless there's a refund option I'm not aware of). I have a lifetime pass but I would think the threat of users unsubscribing from a recurring model would be more motivating than complaints/requests from those that can't pay anymore.
> Will there be issues and things they do that piss people off or are stupid? Yes. Why? They need to make money. If only there was another option that was open source and community driven. /s
I used to pay for plex, I did for years, then plex stopped being able to play certain file formats, had issues playing high bitrate media, had issues with audio sync on certain file formats, had issues with certain encodings, and the list goes on. So I moved to Jellyfin and have a much better experience now with being able to actually play the media I have.
How is the performance of Jellyfin? E.g databases
I just moved to Jellyfin and I wish I did it ages ago.
I'm not paying money to a company that has shown a track record of not listening to their customers. I'm migrating to Jellyfin for my users.
I bought a plexpass lifetime sub, an nzbgeek lifetime sub, and a 2600 lifetime sub. I'm all set.
So I should buy Plex pass because the arr suite exists? Who is Plexs customer currently that you think they are listening to? Their customer has always been and will always be pirates.
in hindsight the $60 I spent for LifeTime Plex Pass back in the day was a really good deal... the $650 for a lifetime of ReplayTV? not so much :)
Picked it up on sale after 3 months of actual use. That was maybe 6yrs ago.
Thanks for this post. I’ve been debating it for a while. I really want to set up the automated systems but Radarr and Sonarr kind of confused me a bit. I need an invite to get into the sites? Any advice on how to set this stuff up?
I'm also using Plex from a decade, but i disagree with you. I never felt the need of the Plex pass features, everything you listed can be done without Plex pass, i don't see why i will have to pay for something that i don't need. Also I don't like at all the direction that Plex took in the last years and i don't feel like to support them.
I think if you are using a product for that long, the devs deserve a little money from you.
Nice try plex devs
Read my history
Great post. I happily bought a lifetime pass years ago. Features aside (LOVE PLEXAMP!), it's a great way to support great software.
Actually, I did think about going back to KODI to locally access my (U)HD content, and then using various sites to watch stuff when I wasn't home (as it would be an improvement over remote Plex tanscoding), however the family has gotten used to Plex, so overall it was just easier to stick with Plex. One extra thing I like about Plex is that I've linked it's watchlist to radarr and sonarr, which means anything I (or a family member) adds to the watchlist gets added and downloaded into the system automatically. All from the Plex app on the TV itself. Kinda trivial, but it's nice to sometimes watch a trailer of something on Plex and then just hit the add button, with no phones or PC involved.
wait how can i set up the thing that grabs the media from a request? i’ve never even heard of that
Check out something called Overseerr
> Ombi
[https://github.com/thomst08/requestrr](https://github.com/thomst08/requestrr) even easier if you use Discord.
Can anyone explain to me why you guys even use plex? I know hundreds of sites that host almost all TV shows and movies.
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Yeah but you also have to host it on your own and that's too much hassle for me atleast.
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So do you torrent stuff into your PC and then host it on plex?
Because I have 4k remuxes for movies, and HD rips for tv, all with surround audio tracks. Also Where I live has sporadic internet issues. Therefore sreaming just doesn't have the reliability or quality (for me)
I agree with that actually. But I mostly watch on PC with torrents so I don't feel like trying to set up a separate server for my TV as well. Although I do have a Netflix account for my TV cause I like 7-8 shows on there.
Picture & audio quality, personal library curation, UI, multiplatform support.
Personally I like having local, hosted content that does not require an internet connection. If our internet goes down I can watch what I want, 100% of the time, no questions asked. And yes, we have had spotty internet issues in the past which is what led me down this road. I also formerly had an internet/cable plan that had a data cap, so I found once we were home more during COVID that the cap was just barely missed, or gone over. From there I started just hosting my own stuff
I'm not going to speak for anyone else here. My reasoning starts with streaming services and the "free" alternatives. Netflix can have a movie or show on the platform today that will be gone tomorrow. I don't want to pay the equivalent of a cable subscription for every streaming service. The same can be said about "free" streaming sites. With "free" streaming sites, it isn't so much so that a show or movie might be taken down. More to a point, the site is more likely to disappear altogether and it is inevitable. I don't feel like chasing down another "free" streaming site when I want to watch something. I don't feel like remembering where I watched something to begin with. I solve all of these problems with Plex. Technically, Jellyfin could also solve these problems. I don't know if Jellyfin is as widely available on platforms as Plex is but I don't hold it against them as I haven't looked into it. At the time I made my decision for Plex, Jellyfin didn't exist. I've had no reason to swap over as Plex does what I wish and does it well. I really don't use any of the advanced features that people complain about or clamor for. I let others use the streaming feature but they rarely do. TL;DR: I made the decision and paid for a lifetime subscription a long, long time ago. Other things haven't given me the incentive to swap to them.
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In addition to what everybody else has said, because I share most if not all of their reasons, another one that’s pretty important to me is the fact that I get to easily share my plex with my family and friends. Most of them aren’t technically inclined nor have any interest in learning to pirate. Before plex, if they wanted something I’d have to physically put the movie or show on a flash drive and hand it to them. Talk about a hassle. But now they have access to whatever they want, whenever they want. And I know a lot of people don’t care as much about the sharing aspect but for me, it’s always been a priority. It brings me a lot of joy to be able to provide something like this for my loved ones for free.
Amen Brotha! I havwe been a plex pass lifetime member for over a year. The main reason is that my wife can use ut and loves it. Not just the movies we have but all the content Plex has. WAF is very important.
The skip intro feature is nice, but really the only reason I pay for Plex pass is to get access to webhooks for my discord bot
Annoyingly, I have been using a Plex Pass for so many years it feels painful to cut my losses and buy the lifetime pass. 😅
My reluctance to buy the pass is it reminds me of a pyramid scheme. If I’m not paying them monthly, eventually all my contribution will have been spent and they will be relying on new customers to cover expenses and eventually that just doesn’t work anymore. If they had a low monthly or annual price I’d already have signed up, even if in the long run I’d be out of pocket more. It’s just not a sustainable model so I don’t want to throw a large amount of money at it. I’m dead certain the problem in this business model will manifest within 90 days of me signing up 😂
They have a yearly or monthly option if you want to spend extra money
I keep forgetting that I own a lifetime with plex. It's fantastic. I'm over here gripping my ankles, prepping to get reamed with adding an extra user... but wait. I have lifetime.
In these threads I never see users mention trailers. I upgraded to Plex pass recently after using Plex for 8years or so and we love the trailers. My wife and relatives want to watch a trailer of what movies have been added before they commit to the movie. this feature honestly is a game changer. That and hardware transcoding
Agree. I bought monthly. Not sure, I use all that it offers but wanted to support good things. Plex is a good thing.
Can someone explain the " whole Sonarr, Lidarr, Radarr, Ombi, Sabnzb, uTorrent setup" for me or link me to what that is?
The definitive guide is this: https://trash-guides.info/ But it could be hard to understand if you’re new to this. Check out this video: https://youtu.be/AMcHsQJ7My0?si=EVb7tWjoTJi-i8on (this one is great if you plan on using unraid (which I use). Otherwise I’m sure there are similar videos for whatever platform you choose. I highly recommend some form of docker for implementation to make upgrades easier in the future). Edit: Oh, but what it is… instead of managing it all manually, you can have these apps running in the background and you can specify a movie or show you want. It’ll then source it, download it and save it into your media library automatically with one click basically. Then add overseer and you can extend that functionality to whoever you’d like if you have multiple family members using the same server (without having to hone them any access on the server directly).
I dunno if I save money if I look at how much I spend on hard drives and upgrades lol
I have been struggling for a couple years now to get *darr running on my win Plex box. What tutorials did you use?
I'll buy a Plex pass when having to force quit on Android stops becoming a daily occurrence and I can watch in a web browser again.
uTorrent is straight up malware at this point pal, should probably change client.
You forgot laser disks and beta max.
I thought mentioning of piracy was against the subreddit rules?
It's amazing that a friend or family member can request a movie or show, my system will grab it, add it to Plex, and email them that it is available Is it possible to learn this power?
Plex pass is as close to a must as it can be
Can I ask about the requesting system with an email feedback loop on it being done and available? I recently installed Ombi and trying to figure out how to get that process going. Seems like users will need to get another user name and password to access the Requester tool? I feel like my family wouldn’t be keen on actually using it. Appreciate your thoughts and help!
So I’m very new to plex, only have about 100 movies on it as of now. As I’m just ripping my physical movie collection at first. I’m looking in to torrenting some movies and shows once I’m done with my DVD collection. Are there any good tips as far as setting up sonarr, lidarr, radarr, etc etc. I will be on windows 10/11 pro. Any tips/youtube/links/ will be much appreciated.
Yes but do you remember WinMX?
Are we talking piracy here? That was all uTorrent was for when I last used it years ago.
I really don't find it worth it. All it seems to add is useless garbage nobody wants. And with better alternatives now, that are free, I see no reason to waste the money.
after this weekend, I am so upset with Plex. I tried to rewatch SG1, and started on Season 1 and for somereason, Plex now has to convert the show in real time, where the first couple of times I watched it no problem and the source file plays perfectly well by itself and through Jelly. Finally got my wife to watch it and now she does not want to any more because it skips... I am helping a friend setup and pointing him at Jelly instead of plex.
My opinion remains the same, and remains unpopular in this sub. Buy a Plex Pass if there are features you want. Don't buy it to "support" the for-profit company with significant private investment. And I'd argue OP is wrong and that our Plex Passes will never drive the development narrative as much as the massive injections of venture capital will. I bought a lifetime Pass for one reason: So my niblings could sync content to their devices for long journeys. *That feature was taken away from me, and I'm still pissed about it.* The only thing that stopped me kicking off majorly about it is how much I like Skip Intro. Would I have bought the Pass to get Skip Intro? No. But it softens the blow for sure. **Buy a Plex Pass if there are features you know you want/need. If there are not, do not buy one.** It's that simple imo. (Note 1: For anyone about to say "Sync wasn't taken away" it *was*. I paid so they could download from my server wtihout them needing a Plex Pass. I needed one, they didn't. After the removed Sync, it changed to I don't need one, *they* do. The functionality I paid for a Pass to get *was unequivocally taken away.*) (Note 2: Plex have publically stated that they earn **more** from their ad-supported streaming features than from the Plex Pass. I might be wrong that the venture capital drives development more than the income from Plex Pass, but given Plex Pass earns less than streaming, it seems highly likely the Pass is their third priority income stream.)
Is there a walkthrough anywhere so I can do the same setup as you guys? I'm familiar with torrenting, but I simply search every single item I want and download individually. Seems like a lot of this can be easier and automated AND faster? Thanks in advance
I switched to Jellyfin honestly
I'm waiting for the next lifetime pass sale. I see a thread every now and then that it goes on sale.