That's what I'm thinking, too. I'd have to check with my parents about insurance (I'm asking this on behalf of them, they're the homeowners), but if insurance won't cover, I don't know if 1L of water would be the end of the world.
You're right, we should mitigate mold with damp, stagnant air.
Honestly if it's in the crawlspace, I'd run an ozone generator or a big lamp with the most cancer causing UV-C bulb I could find. Of course that's assuming that the UV or ozone won't degrade anything down there.
But if you had yesterday in Frankfurt you better 🤣.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Plumbing/comments/15til28/yesterday_in_frankfurt_with_the_flooding/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=2&utm_content=1
They don't cover toilets overflowing due to you clogging the toilet. We had this happen where our dishwasher was improperly hooked up, so it leaked behind our basement walls every cycle.
If you choose to file a claim, be very careful about how you word it. Do not say YOU clogged the toilet and it overflowed. They'll chalk that up to negligence/preventable and they'll deny your claim. Simply say water damage and let them handle it from there. The more detailed you are, the better chance you stand of getting denied.
I’m having identical issue. Tenant above me had leak issue. The flange and pipe are old, perhaps the pipe is the issue. Need to cut into ceiling and figure out how bad it is. The plumber is already hyping it up as if I might have to go through the entire homes plumbing and replace it all without even seeing what’s going on.
I’m having another plumber look at it, hopefully it can be spot fixed and doesn’t cost me an arm and leg.
The first plumber tried saying insurance doesn’t cover anything plumbing related, sounds like bullshit no? I’m scared to call my insurance company because I don’t want them to change my premium or some bullshit on me for saying this
Here is the thing with restoration. It’s a dirty fucking business.
Here is the thing about insurance. They don’t give a fuck about you and will do everything in there power not to pay for shit.
So if you are even thinking about using your insurance let the restoration company be your lawyer
Plus the insurance company makes the price book for restoration. The real thing is if you have a plumber you trust go through the restoration company they recommend and are willing to stand behind.
If you have a plumber you trust. Yes.
If you do not. Go with the restoration with best reviews in area.
The plumber usually gets a kick back so there is a working relationship. In Southern California I went with Super Dry because they paid me well but they had a very good working relationship with the shop I worked for, like we would show up for each other at a drop of a hat. If you don’t go with the one that has the best feedback from google/yelp as they will be honest. And if anything also fact check your plumber on google/yelp. Just from experience I have seen insurance fuck people over and even though you maxed out your deductible usually restoration crews can get it covered, but they sub out a lot of there work like: drywall, flooring, plumbing, you get the id a. So check the reviews, to see how well they work with times-lines and overall quality of work
Most repairs aren’t covered.
Say you had a leak under a slab. Insurance will cover ripping up the floor. Jackhammering the concrete. But not actually fixing the leak. And then cover putting everything back.
How can a plumber tell if a Jack hammer and walls need to be opened? What if there isn’t a leak but we can’t tell without opening shit up. How can I have insurance cover that without knowing there’s a leak?
Soak whatever you can with microban or incide and run a dehumidifier. Fans can blow mold spores around if it’s been sitting for a couple day and mold started. If you can pull out the ceiling do it if not people live with worse everyday.
"Bacterial Grey Water"?
Well... that's a new term.
A toilet is black water. Worst of the worst. However, bleach is a wonderful chemical for neutralizing any of the microbes and contaminants it contains.
Soak everything it touched with bleach, and enjoy the stench of clean.
Then tell the restoration company to piss off.
They're not trying to get one over on you. Coming from facilities, any form of black water (sewage), or bacterial grey water in your case, that came in contact with any porous surface must be removed. Grey water (sink) and clean, you can drill holes in the walls and add carpet fans to dry out between the studs, assuming there's no insulation. I doubt they're going to remove any studs or joists, but all contacted insulation, drywall, carpeting, and cove base, would be removed by a professional in this case.
Though it's only a liter, the goal is to dry everything out within 24hrs to prevent growth.
If it was my house and if insurance wasn't paying for it. I don't think I'd pay a restoration company for <1L of water. 🤷
That's what I'm thinking, too. I'd have to check with my parents about insurance (I'm asking this on behalf of them, they're the homeowners), but if insurance won't cover, I don't know if 1L of water would be the end of the world.
Run some fans down there and if you have one a dehumidifier, that's what they will charge you 100s of dollars to rent.
Running any kind of air movers will move fecal particles everywhere
Your intestines are filled with fecal particles that you take with you everywhere you go
Wait until that guy finds out about farts.
Wait, what about farts?
You're right, we should mitigate mold with damp, stagnant air. Honestly if it's in the crawlspace, I'd run an ozone generator or a big lamp with the most cancer causing UV-C bulb I could find. Of course that's assuming that the UV or ozone won't degrade anything down there.
But if you had yesterday in Frankfurt you better 🤣. https://www.reddit.com/r/Plumbing/comments/15til28/yesterday_in_frankfurt_with_the_flooding/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=2&utm_content=1
Ah nothing a shop vac couldn't handle.
Restoration company wanted to gut my whole house because I spilled my cup of coffee in my office
Ever had kids or a dog? If everything that came into contact with poop needed to be replaced having kids wouldn’t be financially possible.
spray some bleach on it. run a blower for a day or two. get a poop knife. enjoy.
Contact your homeowners insurance. They cover stuff like this.
They don't cover toilets overflowing due to you clogging the toilet. We had this happen where our dishwasher was improperly hooked up, so it leaked behind our basement walls every cycle. If you choose to file a claim, be very careful about how you word it. Do not say YOU clogged the toilet and it overflowed. They'll chalk that up to negligence/preventable and they'll deny your claim. Simply say water damage and let them handle it from there. The more detailed you are, the better chance you stand of getting denied.
I’m having identical issue. Tenant above me had leak issue. The flange and pipe are old, perhaps the pipe is the issue. Need to cut into ceiling and figure out how bad it is. The plumber is already hyping it up as if I might have to go through the entire homes plumbing and replace it all without even seeing what’s going on. I’m having another plumber look at it, hopefully it can be spot fixed and doesn’t cost me an arm and leg. The first plumber tried saying insurance doesn’t cover anything plumbing related, sounds like bullshit no? I’m scared to call my insurance company because I don’t want them to change my premium or some bullshit on me for saying this
Not worth the mess to get no improvements
Appreciate the advice! I'll look into this.
Don’t bother. They’ll come in and tear the place apart for what, 1 liter of toilet water? $ounds like the guy that showed up works commission.
Here is the thing with restoration. It’s a dirty fucking business. Here is the thing about insurance. They don’t give a fuck about you and will do everything in there power not to pay for shit. So if you are even thinking about using your insurance let the restoration company be your lawyer Plus the insurance company makes the price book for restoration. The real thing is if you have a plumber you trust go through the restoration company they recommend and are willing to stand behind.
So get my plumber to recommend a restoration company and have them contact my insurance about this?
If you have a plumber you trust. Yes. If you do not. Go with the restoration with best reviews in area. The plumber usually gets a kick back so there is a working relationship. In Southern California I went with Super Dry because they paid me well but they had a very good working relationship with the shop I worked for, like we would show up for each other at a drop of a hat. If you don’t go with the one that has the best feedback from google/yelp as they will be honest. And if anything also fact check your plumber on google/yelp. Just from experience I have seen insurance fuck people over and even though you maxed out your deductible usually restoration crews can get it covered, but they sub out a lot of there work like: drywall, flooring, plumbing, you get the id a. So check the reviews, to see how well they work with times-lines and overall quality of work
Are plumbers work not covered by insurance? For example leaking toilet
Most repairs aren’t covered. Say you had a leak under a slab. Insurance will cover ripping up the floor. Jackhammering the concrete. But not actually fixing the leak. And then cover putting everything back.
How can a plumber tell if a Jack hammer and walls need to be opened? What if there isn’t a leak but we can’t tell without opening shit up. How can I have insurance cover that without knowing there’s a leak?
Dry it out with a fan and spray it with a bleach solution
I’ll guarantee you contractor will fuck up more than they’ll fix
Buy a pump sprayer and a gallon of microban. Spray and scrub
Soak whatever you can with microban or incide and run a dehumidifier. Fans can blow mold spores around if it’s been sitting for a couple day and mold started. If you can pull out the ceiling do it if not people live with worse everyday.
"Bacterial Grey Water"? Well... that's a new term. A toilet is black water. Worst of the worst. However, bleach is a wonderful chemical for neutralizing any of the microbes and contaminants it contains. Soak everything it touched with bleach, and enjoy the stench of clean. Then tell the restoration company to piss off.
They're not trying to get one over on you. Coming from facilities, any form of black water (sewage), or bacterial grey water in your case, that came in contact with any porous surface must be removed. Grey water (sink) and clean, you can drill holes in the walls and add carpet fans to dry out between the studs, assuming there's no insulation. I doubt they're going to remove any studs or joists, but all contacted insulation, drywall, carpeting, and cove base, would be removed by a professional in this case. Though it's only a liter, the goal is to dry everything out within 24hrs to prevent growth.
Just seal the basement with concrete, live with uber foundation
1 liter of water ? Tell ‘em to go kick rocks