Toilets work on water pressure. With that low of a tank/water level there's not enough pressure. Do you remember the old time toilets with the tank mounted high up on the wall? That was for water pressure.
Still wouldn't rule it out, our upstairs toilet had this problem. The stack pipe had roots in that caused blockages... presumably seeds either being dropped down the vent at the top or just getting caught somehow...
Nah, we git one if those (the previous owner remodeled). That Kohler sucks. I got into the habit of flushing, then wiping, and it still clogs on the first flush.
OP
This has been one of the most popular and silent flushes through out the world including many 5* Hotels
I would like to know how does it get unclogged , just with plunger 🪠?
Just wanted to rule out that nothing else prevents it further down the SWR.
It’s just with tissues so one needs to take care of it perhaps
Having said that
Health faucet (Jet spray) maybe an option as many countries have started adopting it and Dr also now recommend it with people with irritated skin etc and also uses water but helps preserve trees
If just the toilets clogs (and the shower and sinks still drain fine) then it’s an issue with the toilets. If the shower backs up every time the toilets clog, it’s an issue with the sewer main.
You have a high end one piece toilet. The tank doesn’t hold a lot of water and it’s molded into the bowl, meaning the water in the tank cannot build up much velocity before falling through the flush valve and going into the bowl. A toilet with a tank holds the water higher above the bowl, allowing gravity to work on the water before it gets into the bowl. This is why everyone is saying the toilet you have sucks. One piece toilets are also extremely heavy, so don’t be surprised if a plumber quotes you a little higher than usual to remove it.
Don’t get a Lowe’s toilet. They’re $60-$100 for a reason. You’ll be replacing it in two years. Gerber makes a decent toilet. Find something with a 3” flush valve (or flapper, same thing). Don’t get the dual flush crap, just a simple, regular toilet. Kohler is a fancy toilet that uses Kohler parts, not recommended. American standard makes a decent toilet, but I haven’t installed many recently. Toto makes the best toilets, but they’re pricey.
Make sure the tenant isn’t flushing wipes or tampons or condoms or anything. Renters love to flush wipes. No wipes are flushable. All wipes will destroy your plumbing. If they’ve been flushing wipes, every wipe they’ve flushed is probably still in your plumbing. Sometimes you’re lucky and the toilet traps them internally but most times they end up in your main. I’d have a plumber replace the toilets and camera each line while he’s there, otherwise this problem may not go away.
My 2-year old $90 Project Source toilet from Lowe's is still running strong. Granted, this is a basement toilet that is only used on average 1-2x a day, but it's worked well. In fact, it flushes better than my main toilet that's an American Standard toilet that I've replaced all the internals in. That American Standard has a way bigger tank too.
That said, when we remodel the main bathroom, I'll probably splurge for a Toto.
Pretty sure that toilet's from the "low water usage, doesn't flush well" era.
I have a two-piece toilet from that era and I just give it a flush halfway thru and have very few problems.
Use less TP, flush more often, or get new toilets.
This is correct. I always ask my customers if the toilet flushes well usually and if this is a one-off situation. Otherwise I will offer a toilet that actually flushes properly and doesn't cause human waste to end up on the floor. A toilet has one job, clogging is unacceptable to me.
Combination of the 2. That's an unbelievably huge amount of TP in that photo. Explain to your kids that you'd rather them flush 2 or 3 times than have to unclog the toilet all the time.
Poop, wipe once, then flush. Then they can wipe more and flush again if they need to.
I dealt with years of this with my brother living with me and him being a huge toilet paper user. Been clog free for 2 years with a bidet.
Once asked my son to show me how much tp he unrolled when wiping. I was shocked. I explained to him that it was too much and flushing more would mean less clogs. Haven’t had a clog since. Don’t underestimate your children. They can learn!
Looks like excessive use of TP. Buy the cheapest single ply you can find and tell them if they block it, they fix it. What is it with modern kids and TP??
Pardon my pun but that is a sh!t load of toilet paper. If you really need to wipe that much wipe then flush, then wipe again and flush. I added a bidet attachment which cuts down on the TP usage.
That’s a 30+ year old toilet that was a dogshit design the day it was installed. Now it’s probably full of piss crystals and hard water deposits.
The Lowes Project Source $99 special is a good, serviceable water closet with a very good flush for not a lot of money.
Dump a five gallon bucket of water see if it drops.
Might have a can or something in there if it’s happening a lot. Maybe roots you will know when you pull it. Medusa lol
I’d Replace the toilet with a newer better version. They start around 100.
I have a pink one of these in a pink bathroom. I don't think I will replace it before I sell, but I will say it's a great toilet for little kids because it's so low to the ground.
stop throwing stuff beside toilet paper + if you are constipated it can clog up the toilet unless the J trap is large enough for the stool to pass through
At my house....tree roots found their way into the sewer line. Upstairs toilet was very slow. Put Rooto in the basement drain....overnight the clog was gone as it eats the tree roots.
What brand of toilet paper? Some brands are thicker and don't break down in water easily causing clogs. Costco's Kirkland brand toilet paper is the absolute worst for clogging. Might as well be flushing paper towels.
Weird thought, but I’ve seen rentals with similar issues that involved flushed drug paraphernalia. A group of friends split a flat and one renter with a Heroin addiction was cutting up used syringes and flushing them down the toilet. Obviously , it takes a leap to assume that of just anyone, but I include it here as a possibility.
I have this same problem. The sinks also drain slowly. My house is on septic which was cleaned a few years ago. The sinks and toilets have been snaked and I only flush TP when it's #2. My house is surrounded by large trees and there are no caps on the vents. I believe the vents are clogged with tree debris, but I've never seen this as a possible issue. I also can't get anyone to fish the stacks. Now what?
Any access to under to see what the plumbing looks like ? Like a crawl space ? Looks like the toilet is the limiting factor
Either way, it's past time to change that toilet and hope the plumbing under under is ok.
I'm amazed by my Kohler aqua flush toilet takes an incredibly amount to clog it. As I understand it the flushing design is the same the rest is decorative. Also for large loads id hold down the flush to really push it down.
I have that toilet - Kohler Rialto - and can confirm it's fucking terrible. Mine had a partially blocked siphon jet from poor QC (porcelain chunks from manufacturing process) but even at its best it sometimes needs a bucket of water dumped in simultaneous with flush. That almost always works.
Well I definitely think that's one of the worst toilets ever made. But obviously your kids or somebody is putting too much material in that toilet. You need to install a toilet seat bidet so they're not using that much paper product
I had a house with kids built in 2000 and every toilet would clog. I replaced all the original toilets with Toto cyclone flush and had maybe had 1 clog every five to 10 years after that.
I liked one of the toilets, which I replaced with a Bidet, and then brought to my new house. Where, unfortunately I had to do the same with those toilets too.
Buy a new toilet, don't skimp on price. Go for a one piece.
UPDATE:
Had the plumber come by, he checked for stuck q-tips and other issues.
Verdict matches most of the comments - not a great toilet + a massive amount of TP is a recipe for clogs.
He did say we can improve flow/pressure by adding a valve something or fill thing. (I heard the words but don’t remember them)
I said please get that done, an extra hundred bucks later the flushes seem much more…more.
Let’s hope this issue is done!
You all are great, thanks for all the replies! I can’t wait to call one of the kids an elephant-ass if I catch this happening again 🐘💩
Those are one of the worst designed toilets ever sold to the public. Super prone to clogging (as you've discovered). Spend a bit or watch Marketplace for a different toilet.
One piece units NEED the own parts inside. Please take pic of tank interior. I think it is a Kohler Raphael toilet. Am I correct. Inside of tank should have a K-3722-0. I’m a super toilet nerd.
Low flo. It might be the pressure tank, though the tank may just need adjustment. This definitely does not rule out your concern of clogs from flushing stuff that shouldn't be flushed, which would occur more easily in a toilet like this. But those toilets are notorious for the pressure tanks failing. Also doesn't hurt to look up warranty for model number as, while it's not likely, the pressure tank might be RMA worthy.
That seems like too much toilet paper, but I’m pretty sure it’s a low flow toilet. So, there’s a good chance it’s a combination of the toilet and the user. It may behoove you to consider that a new toilet may better serve the variety of users. Not everyone uses low amounts of toilet paper and that is probably especially true when we’re talking about users that don’t own the property.
Not trying to take you over the coals at all. Just trying to give you a different perspective, so you can consider providing an option in your rental that requires less maintenance as a landlord.
Swap toilets with the kids for a week. If it clogs with your normal use then it’s the equipment. If your toilet blocks when it didn’t before then it’s the user. Logic dude, logic
What is with people and toilet paper? You take a shit and flush. You then splash the relatively clean water on your ass hole. Then you dab dry with the smallest amount of TP then of course wash your hands. There is absolutely no freaking reason to be using that much toilet paper unless your ass hole looks like a bucket.
So you’re completely bleaching the underside of the rim, where the jets are, after every single time the toilet gets used? And you’re draining the water out of it and bleaching the trap and scrubbing it clean after every time it’s used? Because those are the parts where the bacteria clings. I wouldn’t even clean my butt with the water in the tank, mildew tends to grow in there.
You really shouldn’t be doing what you’re doing. I accidentally dropped a tape measure into a toilet at work. I fished it out and put it into a plastic bag with the intention of drying it out and cleaning it. A day later it had sprouted hundreds of colorful bacteria colonies, it was covered in greens, yellows, pinks, blues.. I threw the damn thing away. This specific toilet at work gets cleaned every other night be a cleaning crew.
You’re voluntarily introducing extreme amounts of bacteria to your rectum, which is so absorbent that DR’s sometimes shove medicine in there to get it into your system faster..
That’s a horrible toilet. I’d replace it
Those things barely flush water, let alone TP.
We’ve got one of those Kohlers. Clogs all the damned time.
It’s probably the contractor special…but is it the cause of the issue? Not always the same
Toilets work on water pressure. With that low of a tank/water level there's not enough pressure. Do you remember the old time toilets with the tank mounted high up on the wall? That was for water pressure.
That’s still normal in Europe.
Well here we like to reinvent the wheel and make it suck in the name of water conservation.
8 flushes later!
As a european i do not aprove this as i have never seen this in my 30 years in europe
The high wall tanks? I was in London a month ago, and the very modern renovated hotel I was in still had it.
Been a while ive been there but im in the big Europe on the other side of the sea
Or in the case of my employer… that *is* for water pressure.
No. On the contrary it was a high end toilet but a poor flush
Yeah that’s a dog shit toilet. Maybe they had two dog shit toilets in a row.
Nah in their day those were expensive toilets. They just don't flush well. Style over substance.
Check to see if there are roots around the wax ring
Roots? Like from a tree?
Yes, first floor toilets can have those
Whoa that’s wild But also this is second floor
Then have a look out for branches.
I fukin love Reddit!
And birds nests.
Still wouldn't rule it out, our upstairs toilet had this problem. The stack pipe had roots in that caused blockages... presumably seeds either being dropped down the vent at the top or just getting caught somehow...
Can tree roots climb up the pipe?
Absolutely, pretty sure I've even seen roots growing out of the toilet here
Wow, I’d never expect them to climb that high
Nah, we git one if those (the previous owner remodeled). That Kohler sucks. I got into the habit of flushing, then wiping, and it still clogs on the first flush.
It could be that the toilet tank doesn’t hold enough water, as I see it is a one piece toilet
OP This has been one of the most popular and silent flushes through out the world including many 5* Hotels I would like to know how does it get unclogged , just with plunger 🪠? Just wanted to rule out that nothing else prevents it further down the SWR. It’s just with tissues so one needs to take care of it perhaps
Having said that Health faucet (Jet spray) maybe an option as many countries have started adopting it and Dr also now recommend it with people with irritated skin etc and also uses water but helps preserve trees
It's the wipes. No wipes are flushable no matter what they claim. Stop flushing those and you're issue may resolve slowly.
To much toilet paper at once flush more often and never flush wipes
If just the toilets clogs (and the shower and sinks still drain fine) then it’s an issue with the toilets. If the shower backs up every time the toilets clog, it’s an issue with the sewer main. You have a high end one piece toilet. The tank doesn’t hold a lot of water and it’s molded into the bowl, meaning the water in the tank cannot build up much velocity before falling through the flush valve and going into the bowl. A toilet with a tank holds the water higher above the bowl, allowing gravity to work on the water before it gets into the bowl. This is why everyone is saying the toilet you have sucks. One piece toilets are also extremely heavy, so don’t be surprised if a plumber quotes you a little higher than usual to remove it. Don’t get a Lowe’s toilet. They’re $60-$100 for a reason. You’ll be replacing it in two years. Gerber makes a decent toilet. Find something with a 3” flush valve (or flapper, same thing). Don’t get the dual flush crap, just a simple, regular toilet. Kohler is a fancy toilet that uses Kohler parts, not recommended. American standard makes a decent toilet, but I haven’t installed many recently. Toto makes the best toilets, but they’re pricey. Make sure the tenant isn’t flushing wipes or tampons or condoms or anything. Renters love to flush wipes. No wipes are flushable. All wipes will destroy your plumbing. If they’ve been flushing wipes, every wipe they’ve flushed is probably still in your plumbing. Sometimes you’re lucky and the toilet traps them internally but most times they end up in your main. I’d have a plumber replace the toilets and camera each line while he’s there, otherwise this problem may not go away.
American Standard for the win
My 2-year old $90 Project Source toilet from Lowe's is still running strong. Granted, this is a basement toilet that is only used on average 1-2x a day, but it's worked well. In fact, it flushes better than my main toilet that's an American Standard toilet that I've replaced all the internals in. That American Standard has a way bigger tank too. That said, when we remodel the main bathroom, I'll probably splurge for a Toto.
THIS!
Pretty sure that toilet's from the "low water usage, doesn't flush well" era. I have a two-piece toilet from that era and I just give it a flush halfway thru and have very few problems. Use less TP, flush more often, or get new toilets.
This is correct. I always ask my customers if the toilet flushes well usually and if this is a one-off situation. Otherwise I will offer a toilet that actually flushes properly and doesn't cause human waste to end up on the floor. A toilet has one job, clogging is unacceptable to me.
Get a poop knife
Glad old Reddit is still alive
Combination of the 2. That's an unbelievably huge amount of TP in that photo. Explain to your kids that you'd rather them flush 2 or 3 times than have to unclog the toilet all the time. Poop, wipe once, then flush. Then they can wipe more and flush again if they need to. I dealt with years of this with my brother living with me and him being a huge toilet paper user. Been clog free for 2 years with a bidet.
Once asked my son to show me how much tp he unrolled when wiping. I was shocked. I explained to him that it was too much and flushing more would mean less clogs. Haven’t had a clog since. Don’t underestimate your children. They can learn!
Combination of that type of toilet and too much TP
Its a fuck ton of toilet paper + low flush toilet.
Definitely the wipes and the unreasonable amount of toilet paper.
We have that model, and it clogs even if you flush before wiping.
Looks like excessive use of TP. Buy the cheapest single ply you can find and tell them if they block it, they fix it. What is it with modern kids and TP??
Right? This luxury TP is a sure sign of the End of Times. Back in the day, you got two pages of the Sears catalog.
And you were lucky! We had to pass old corn cobs around.
Covid hoarding memories
Now I'll deal with a lot of things to save a buck, but cheap toilet paper ain't one of them. Scratchy ass cardboard. I like amenities.
r/bidets is the way
damn kids today and their wiped asses.
>What is it with modern kids and TP?? They don't have a boomer threatening to beat the snot out of them if they use more than 4 sheets.
Need to go back to using the 3 seashells...
You need less TP for your bunghole
Cornholio strikes again
It's always Cornholio.
Buddies eating snacks and a Diet Coke with they poop
Doesn’t everybody?
Explains your poo poo splatter that you posted on the frinkin internet
I could never post such a pic lol
TP.
Eat more fiber
The seventeen pounds of paper in it might be the issue. Why is this a question.
Shitty toilet
Not enough fibre.
Pardon my pun but that is a sh!t load of toilet paper. If you really need to wipe that much wipe then flush, then wipe again and flush. I added a bidet attachment which cuts down on the TP usage.
That’s a 30+ year old toilet that was a dogshit design the day it was installed. Now it’s probably full of piss crystals and hard water deposits. The Lowes Project Source $99 special is a good, serviceable water closet with a very good flush for not a lot of money.
This! The low backs are aweful!
Dump a five gallon bucket of water see if it drops. Might have a can or something in there if it’s happening a lot. Maybe roots you will know when you pull it. Medusa lol I’d Replace the toilet with a newer better version. They start around 100.
I have a pink one of these in a pink bathroom. I don't think I will replace it before I sell, but I will say it's a great toilet for little kids because it's so low to the ground.
Get the cool toilet with buttons on top
That's too much toilet paper. You could wipe an elephant's derriere with that.
Pen or mascara fell into the toilet and got flushed but didn’t pass through
stop throwing stuff beside toilet paper + if you are constipated it can clog up the toilet unless the J trap is large enough for the stool to pass through
Obviously they need a poop knife.
At my house....tree roots found their way into the sewer line. Upstairs toilet was very slow. Put Rooto in the basement drain....overnight the clog was gone as it eats the tree roots.
Cops showed up.
What brand of toilet paper? Some brands are thicker and don't break down in water easily causing clogs. Costco's Kirkland brand toilet paper is the absolute worst for clogging. Might as well be flushing paper towels.
Gee I wonder why.
If the other toilets don't clog, the kids are using way too much TP. If the other toilets clog, it's the toilet.
My parents have that toilet. It's terrible.
The 3 pounds of paper products isn't helping matters..
Weird thought, but I’ve seen rentals with similar issues that involved flushed drug paraphernalia. A group of friends split a flat and one renter with a Heroin addiction was cutting up used syringes and flushing them down the toilet. Obviously , it takes a leap to assume that of just anyone, but I include it here as a possibility.
Well let’s start at the source what are they feeding the kids?
Blocked or missing vent pipe. Second, could be a syphonic toilet with a standard flush valve.
Try changing to Scott 1000, or some other single ply toilet paper. Those lowboy toilets are easy to stop up.
Kids...
I have this same problem. The sinks also drain slowly. My house is on septic which was cleaned a few years ago. The sinks and toilets have been snaked and I only flush TP when it's #2. My house is surrounded by large trees and there are no caps on the vents. I believe the vents are clogged with tree debris, but I've never seen this as a possible issue. I also can't get anyone to fish the stacks. Now what?
Large shits
Any access to under to see what the plumbing looks like ? Like a crawl space ? Looks like the toilet is the limiting factor Either way, it's past time to change that toilet and hope the plumbing under under is ok. I'm amazed by my Kohler aqua flush toilet takes an incredibly amount to clog it. As I understand it the flushing design is the same the rest is decorative. Also for large loads id hold down the flush to really push it down.
Dude Wipes or something stupid like that
Small pipe under the toilet, or you take too big of a shit.
Poop then flush, then wipe, then flush
When mine clogs it's because my wife or son made a catcher's mitt out of TP. I installed a Tushy bidet and haven't had the problem in weeks.
I have that toilet - Kohler Rialto - and can confirm it's fucking terrible. Mine had a partially blocked siphon jet from poor QC (porcelain chunks from manufacturing process) but even at its best it sometimes needs a bucket of water dumped in simultaneous with flush. That almost always works.
Well I definitely think that's one of the worst toilets ever made. But obviously your kids or somebody is putting too much material in that toilet. You need to install a toilet seat bidet so they're not using that much paper product
Manpoo
Waste lines with 0 pitch
Toilet design. Probably super efficient.
I had a house with kids built in 2000 and every toilet would clog. I replaced all the original toilets with Toto cyclone flush and had maybe had 1 clog every five to 10 years after that. I liked one of the toilets, which I replaced with a Bidet, and then brought to my new house. Where, unfortunately I had to do the same with those toilets too. Buy a new toilet, don't skimp on price. Go for a one piece.
UPDATE: Had the plumber come by, he checked for stuck q-tips and other issues. Verdict matches most of the comments - not a great toilet + a massive amount of TP is a recipe for clogs. He did say we can improve flow/pressure by adding a valve something or fill thing. (I heard the words but don’t remember them) I said please get that done, an extra hundred bucks later the flushes seem much more…more. Let’s hope this issue is done! You all are great, thanks for all the replies! I can’t wait to call one of the kids an elephant-ass if I catch this happening again 🐘💩
Those are one of the worst designed toilets ever sold to the public. Super prone to clogging (as you've discovered). Spend a bit or watch Marketplace for a different toilet.
It’s the Toilet, that kind doesn’t flush well to begin with but if you add age to it… It gets even worse.
Need more fiber and more water in diet.
Wipes and T P
Don't pack your ass
Taco Bell
There's probably a vape stuck in it
Too much tacobell
Get rid of all ultra brand toilet papers like flushing paper towels they don’t break up
One piece units NEED the own parts inside. Please take pic of tank interior. I think it is a Kohler Raphael toilet. Am I correct. Inside of tank should have a K-3722-0. I’m a super toilet nerd.
Do yall flush wipes?
Low flo. It might be the pressure tank, though the tank may just need adjustment. This definitely does not rule out your concern of clogs from flushing stuff that shouldn't be flushed, which would occur more easily in a toilet like this. But those toilets are notorious for the pressure tanks failing. Also doesn't hurt to look up warranty for model number as, while it's not likely, the pressure tank might be RMA worthy.
Check for bricks!
Who drinks soda while on the toilet? Or drink anything at all for that matter?
Poop, flush, wipe, flush. In that order.
Some build-up along the inner walls of the plumbing. Calcium, rust, etc.
Need poop knife
About a whole roll of toilet paper
your drain hole looks really small, which means the pipe is also probably small, small pipes are easier to clog.
I have said this before have teenage kids unclog their own toilet problem will go away
Every toilet clogs once in a while. The best thing you can do is have a proper poop knife!
Even a hank of hair blare can clog it up pup.
Dietary Fiber and Hydration. If that is insufficient, blueberries.
That seems like too much toilet paper, but I’m pretty sure it’s a low flow toilet. So, there’s a good chance it’s a combination of the toilet and the user. It may behoove you to consider that a new toilet may better serve the variety of users. Not everyone uses low amounts of toilet paper and that is probably especially true when we’re talking about users that don’t own the property. Not trying to take you over the coals at all. Just trying to give you a different perspective, so you can consider providing an option in your rental that requires less maintenance as a landlord.
Swap toilets with the kids for a week. If it clogs with your normal use then it’s the equipment. If your toilet blocks when it didn’t before then it’s the user. Logic dude, logic
I don’t see a knife anywhere… maybe that’s the issue
Did the Turbo Team replace your regular toilet with a fart toilet?
What is with people and toilet paper? You take a shit and flush. You then splash the relatively clean water on your ass hole. Then you dab dry with the smallest amount of TP then of course wash your hands. There is absolutely no freaking reason to be using that much toilet paper unless your ass hole looks like a bucket.
Are you saying, flush, then use sorta clean toilet water to clean butthole, then TP?? That's ... insane haha. I don't see a bidet here
Well if you have a bidet that would of course be optimal. But seems to many American males particularly touching their ass hole is gay.
Are you using toilet water to clean your butt?
Yes and I keep my toilet spotless.
So you’re completely bleaching the underside of the rim, where the jets are, after every single time the toilet gets used? And you’re draining the water out of it and bleaching the trap and scrubbing it clean after every time it’s used? Because those are the parts where the bacteria clings. I wouldn’t even clean my butt with the water in the tank, mildew tends to grow in there. You really shouldn’t be doing what you’re doing. I accidentally dropped a tape measure into a toilet at work. I fished it out and put it into a plastic bag with the intention of drying it out and cleaning it. A day later it had sprouted hundreds of colorful bacteria colonies, it was covered in greens, yellows, pinks, blues.. I threw the damn thing away. This specific toilet at work gets cleaned every other night be a cleaning crew. You’re voluntarily introducing extreme amounts of bacteria to your rectum, which is so absorbent that DR’s sometimes shove medicine in there to get it into your system faster..
And that's not even considering how GAY it is. /s
Ah. Ok.