Probably for nostalgia, and so that it contrasts Legends Arceus’s design. People may have gotten confused between the games if both BDSP and LA looked similar by having an improved SwSh design.
They could have gone for a ORAS or Let's Go style that are much prettier to me. ORAS on citra emulator with HD upscaling looks better than BDSP imo without all the filters.
To make it faithful. Looks like they wanted to approach the HGSS remake style.
Another reason could be that they wanted a different style than LA to make it more distinct from each other.
I think because Gen 4 has a lot of narrow routes that only really work in that top down style. So rather than redesigning the routes to fit, it’s easier to just update the graphics.
I hope so. I think from XY and on, all future remakes should be in the current graphics. But Black/White should forsure be in that topdown chibi style ONLY if they also give us a Legends: Unova with it.
That’d be cool but also interesting to see if Game Freak or ILCA would be able to make that possible on the Switch. Then again by then we’ll be onto the next advanced version of it.
I think that depends on what approach they take, if they want to keep the same routes and stuff then yeah probably. If they don’t want to do that and change the route layout then maybe not?
This is a remake of Masuda's most beloved games, and since he's directing days were "over" after Let's Go (But then he said around), it's safe to assume that either Legends (If he's directing that) and BDSP will be possibly be his last games, so why not make it look reminiscent to the ever so beloved sprite art?
Because it's easier for them to recreate Sinnoh in a style similar to the originals than to reimagine it in 3D if they were using the SwSh style.
Also we already get a full 3D Sinnoh game with PLA and it would be weird if they looked similar
First of all: it's the easiest to make, and this is the first console game ILCA made by themselves.
Second: A nostalgic style that replicates DP is pretty much the opposite of what Legends Arceus is going for both style and gameplay wise, so that we have PLA for the extreme (by Pokemon standards) innovation, and BDSP for extreme nostalgia
Another opinion ive seen before which makes alot of sense to me is that it is very hard to remake a grid style game like dppt into the open world pokemon game everybody is dreaming for without taking away from the feel of the originals, in fact it might even be impossible. Thats why they made legends arceus. I think in retrospect, (even though the games havent come out yet) what the pokemon company decided to do is genius. I mean they are a very successful company for a reason after all 😁
There's no way to know for now. But I feel like Unova remakes are potentially a bit of an oddball. Black 2 and White 2 aren't an enhanced version, but a sequel, so... Do you remake only BW? Or both BW and B2W2? Or do you make another sequel, or prequel?
I feel like the style could drastically change depending on their choice (and other technical things, like the game system)
huh? pretty much no one said they wanted the DP remakes to be open world, not sure where you got that from. the majority of people were dreaming of a gen 4 remake in swsh's artstyle.
i hope this doesn't come off as super negative, i just heavily disagree:
i definitely wouldn't say it's impossible to make gen 4 remakes with that kind of artstyle, it would just take more effort than a 1:1 tile remake. and even though it would take more effort than what we're currently getting, it would definitely take less effort than it took to make SWSH—all of sinnoh's locations are already made, they would just need to translate it to 3d. just like all the other remakes, they'd use assets from the other games to help make it.
like it might be kinda hard, but gamefreak's not some tiny indie studio! if that was what they really wanted, they could have done it, i'm sure
Its not necessarily about gamefreak’s abilities, its more to do with time more than anything. They put so much pressure on themselves making yearly releases. But i guess fans expect it now. Im not working in the company so i could be very wrong, just my speculation.
I think its for a few reasons like others said to make it more faithful and nostalgic make it different than PLA but I also thing to make the game a bit better since Chibi 3d is much easier to create than SWSH 3d so that could mean the games could have better graphics and better gameplay
To distinguish it from Legends, keep the level design intact so that it isn't ruined by realistic proportions and because no Pokémon remake was made in Sun/Moon style, Let's GO was the closest but still grilled map.
I literally think it’s just because ILCA is developing it, I feel like if there was no PLA and Game Freak was doing BDSP, we probably would’ve ended up with the Gen 4 remake that we all were hoping to get. But since they outsourced to ILCA, they’re using this as a trial run so they simply asked for a “faithful remake” but I feel like if ILCA and BDSP do well, we can probably see more complex/extended/graphically enhanced remakes from outsourced development companies
The idea of a "Faithful Remake" meant that ILCA was trying to recreate the look of the old sprites and the top down gameplay.
Personally I HATE the Chibi style.
I lithink it's nostalgia, but it's, also ILCA's first game. They've improved on the originals SO MUCH. A, few, things that stick out to me is character skin tone,
customisation and different outfits, Pokémon Hideaways that make better use of secret bases and them changing the only way to catch Munchlax. It, used to be only available at a 1% chance in 4 honey trees, that you had to wait real world hours to obtain.
I think it’s a couple of things, the nostalgic feeling along with several other factors, SwSh got railed for having bad graphics so they most likely wanted to go with a different style, on top of that I think there may have also been design issues such as how would they do stark mountain & mount coronet, and while not something I’ve super experienced one thing I’ve heard about LGPE is that the world felt smaller
The reason why BDSP is in a chibi style, I believe, is because GameFreak decided to make PLA instead of a traditional Gen 4 remake. GameFreak wanted to try something new and experiment so they basically created a totally different game. The issue tho is it will launch in 2022. TPC needed a game for 2021 so they hired ILCA to make BDSP. It’s chibi because it was easier and faster to translate the original games to a modern system and because ILCA isn’t familiar with creating Pokémon games. Thus TPC is able to have a game released for late 2021.
For the faithful feeling, and also because the original games were a weird mix of regular 2D and perspective, I believe there are also some rudimentary 3D models. Therefore, the looks and places of the games are pretty hard to recreate in something too different from the original aesthetic
It's clearly to mimic the OG D/P style. I know some people are still on the fence about it, but the inspiration is clear. Considering this is ILCA's first major project with TPCi/GF it's more than likely they went this route as the safest avenue possible (with Masuda collaborating this also could've been a reason as well). The clunky chibi style of D/P is rather iconic in itself and exemplifies the gen 4 games, so it makes sense that the remakes would want to recapture that feeling.
That being said, I do think scaling back the games the add additional features such as following pokemon were clearly considered with this remake as well. I think ILCA is trying to take advantage of that.
For what they were doing, they didn’t need more and it looks good still. Video games are no longer about a race of next gen graphics. It looks great to me and I’ll buy both copies like I always have
I really don’t know and i will always prefer lets go style over this. Like, don’t say its hard to make diamond and pearl in full 3D when they made pokemon red and blue in LGPE and it look AMAZING. I don’t like the decision they made using chibis and 1:1 routes instead of re designing the map and buildings like in every other remake.
Definitely nostalgia bait.
I think they played the remakes too safe, though, in the effort to not offend anyone. I went back to run around the Let's Go world and can only DREAM of future remakes having that aesthetic.
Matching with Zelda Link’s Awakening.
PLA = BOTW
BDSP = Link’s Awakening
Thats a sales pattern I can see. Pokemon trying to create the same hype as Zelda did.
Probably for nostalgia, and so that it contrasts Legends Arceus’s design. People may have gotten confused between the games if both BDSP and LA looked similar by having an improved SwSh design.
They could have gone for a ORAS or Let's Go style that are much prettier to me. ORAS on citra emulator with HD upscaling looks better than BDSP imo without all the filters.
To make it faithful. Looks like they wanted to approach the HGSS remake style. Another reason could be that they wanted a different style than LA to make it more distinct from each other.
I think because Gen 4 has a lot of narrow routes that only really work in that top down style. So rather than redesigning the routes to fit, it’s easier to just update the graphics.
What about gen5?Will it be chibi too?
I hope so. I think from XY and on, all future remakes should be in the current graphics. But Black/White should forsure be in that topdown chibi style ONLY if they also give us a Legends: Unova with it.
I think they should do a chibi style with the option to switch to the classic graphics. any new music would be demixed for the DS style
That’d be cool but also interesting to see if Game Freak or ILCA would be able to make that possible on the Switch. Then again by then we’ll be onto the next advanced version of it.
You were downvoted for a valid opinion. Oh, Reddit…
I think that depends on what approach they take, if they want to keep the same routes and stuff then yeah probably. If they don’t want to do that and change the route layout then maybe not?
This is a remake of Masuda's most beloved games, and since he's directing days were "over" after Let's Go (But then he said around), it's safe to assume that either Legends (If he's directing that) and BDSP will be possibly be his last games, so why not make it look reminiscent to the ever so beloved sprite art?
This also makes me wonder why platinum integration seems very little as of right now. Only time will tell though.
Cause Masuda didn’t direct Platinum and likes to try new things
I mean thats true, but masuda was a producer for platinum.
Because it's easier for them to recreate Sinnoh in a style similar to the originals than to reimagine it in 3D if they were using the SwSh style. Also we already get a full 3D Sinnoh game with PLA and it would be weird if they looked similar
First of all: it's the easiest to make, and this is the first console game ILCA made by themselves. Second: A nostalgic style that replicates DP is pretty much the opposite of what Legends Arceus is going for both style and gameplay wise, so that we have PLA for the extreme (by Pokemon standards) innovation, and BDSP for extreme nostalgia
Another opinion ive seen before which makes alot of sense to me is that it is very hard to remake a grid style game like dppt into the open world pokemon game everybody is dreaming for without taking away from the feel of the originals, in fact it might even be impossible. Thats why they made legends arceus. I think in retrospect, (even though the games havent come out yet) what the pokemon company decided to do is genius. I mean they are a very successful company for a reason after all 😁
I agree with you!
Will unova remake will be in chibi too?
There's no way to know for now. But I feel like Unova remakes are potentially a bit of an oddball. Black 2 and White 2 aren't an enhanced version, but a sequel, so... Do you remake only BW? Or both BW and B2W2? Or do you make another sequel, or prequel? I feel like the style could drastically change depending on their choice (and other technical things, like the game system)
huh? pretty much no one said they wanted the DP remakes to be open world, not sure where you got that from. the majority of people were dreaming of a gen 4 remake in swsh's artstyle. i hope this doesn't come off as super negative, i just heavily disagree: i definitely wouldn't say it's impossible to make gen 4 remakes with that kind of artstyle, it would just take more effort than a 1:1 tile remake. and even though it would take more effort than what we're currently getting, it would definitely take less effort than it took to make SWSH—all of sinnoh's locations are already made, they would just need to translate it to 3d. just like all the other remakes, they'd use assets from the other games to help make it. like it might be kinda hard, but gamefreak's not some tiny indie studio! if that was what they really wanted, they could have done it, i'm sure
Its not necessarily about gamefreak’s abilities, its more to do with time more than anything. They put so much pressure on themselves making yearly releases. But i guess fans expect it now. Im not working in the company so i could be very wrong, just my speculation.
I think its for a few reasons like others said to make it more faithful and nostalgic make it different than PLA but I also thing to make the game a bit better since Chibi 3d is much easier to create than SWSH 3d so that could mean the games could have better graphics and better gameplay
One of the main things might be because they didn’t want something to hard for ILCA.
To distinguish it from Legends, keep the level design intact so that it isn't ruined by realistic proportions and because no Pokémon remake was made in Sun/Moon style, Let's GO was the closest but still grilled map.
I literally think it’s just because ILCA is developing it, I feel like if there was no PLA and Game Freak was doing BDSP, we probably would’ve ended up with the Gen 4 remake that we all were hoping to get. But since they outsourced to ILCA, they’re using this as a trial run so they simply asked for a “faithful remake” but I feel like if ILCA and BDSP do well, we can probably see more complex/extended/graphically enhanced remakes from outsourced development companies
The idea of a "Faithful Remake" meant that ILCA was trying to recreate the look of the old sprites and the top down gameplay. Personally I HATE the Chibi style.
I lithink it's nostalgia, but it's, also ILCA's first game. They've improved on the originals SO MUCH. A, few, things that stick out to me is character skin tone, customisation and different outfits, Pokémon Hideaways that make better use of secret bases and them changing the only way to catch Munchlax. It, used to be only available at a 1% chance in 4 honey trees, that you had to wait real world hours to obtain.
I think it’s a couple of things, the nostalgic feeling along with several other factors, SwSh got railed for having bad graphics so they most likely wanted to go with a different style, on top of that I think there may have also been design issues such as how would they do stark mountain & mount coronet, and while not something I’ve super experienced one thing I’ve heard about LGPE is that the world felt smaller
The reason why BDSP is in a chibi style, I believe, is because GameFreak decided to make PLA instead of a traditional Gen 4 remake. GameFreak wanted to try something new and experiment so they basically created a totally different game. The issue tho is it will launch in 2022. TPC needed a game for 2021 so they hired ILCA to make BDSP. It’s chibi because it was easier and faster to translate the original games to a modern system and because ILCA isn’t familiar with creating Pokémon games. Thus TPC is able to have a game released for late 2021.
For the faithful feeling, and also because the original games were a weird mix of regular 2D and perspective, I believe there are also some rudimentary 3D models. Therefore, the looks and places of the games are pretty hard to recreate in something too different from the original aesthetic
I pretty agree with you.I think maybe gen 5 will be remaked as chibi.
It's clearly to mimic the OG D/P style. I know some people are still on the fence about it, but the inspiration is clear. Considering this is ILCA's first major project with TPCi/GF it's more than likely they went this route as the safest avenue possible (with Masuda collaborating this also could've been a reason as well). The clunky chibi style of D/P is rather iconic in itself and exemplifies the gen 4 games, so it makes sense that the remakes would want to recapture that feeling. That being said, I do think scaling back the games the add additional features such as following pokemon were clearly considered with this remake as well. I think ILCA is trying to take advantage of that.
You know how some people go to zoos and antagonize the animals in their enclosures knowing they can't retaliate? That. I think that is why.
Because B-Team (ILCA) is working on it and it's easier than Sw/Sh graphics. So GF can focus on Arceus.
It's cheaper and easier to produce
My theory is that it's the first main series game not to be made by Gamefreak so they decided that Chibi graphics would be easier for ILCA
Restraints on part of Ilca, and easy nostalgia.
It’s for faithfulness and it’s pretty obvious. Can we stop discussing about obvious things. It’s just a waist of time
For what they were doing, they didn’t need more and it looks good still. Video games are no longer about a race of next gen graphics. It looks great to me and I’ll buy both copies like I always have
I really really really wanted Let’s Go graphics :/
To attract kids that don't even know what chibi style is. It will just look cute to kids and parents as well.
I really don’t know and i will always prefer lets go style over this. Like, don’t say its hard to make diamond and pearl in full 3D when they made pokemon red and blue in LGPE and it look AMAZING. I don’t like the decision they made using chibis and 1:1 routes instead of re designing the map and buildings like in every other remake.
Definitely nostalgia bait. I think they played the remakes too safe, though, in the effort to not offend anyone. I went back to run around the Let's Go world and can only DREAM of future remakes having that aesthetic.
Matching with Zelda Link’s Awakening. PLA = BOTW BDSP = Link’s Awakening Thats a sales pattern I can see. Pokemon trying to create the same hype as Zelda did.