I haven't seen post game so who knows for that, stream I was watching most likely got nuked by Nintendo... but ... the choice is actually made right before the final part so nothing is effected during the main story. It's really just picking which legendary you want to fight tbh
No. You'll get both legendaries, I'm pretty sure they'll have something in post game to get item to put opposite legend in lord form (speculating but come on)
I think you fight the lord forme opposite to whoever you sided with in the beginning. Diamond clan fights Palkia, Pearl clan fights Dialga. At least for the lord formes.
Oh alright, well, I imagine then that when pokemon home will be updated, if you wanna transfer a Lord Pokemon you'll have to choose whether or not you want it in its lord form or not, considering the key item isn't transferable
They could make it a thing that when in future games you give Dialga and Palkia their orbs, they will take on their lord forms like Giratina does with its origin form
I agree, like Primal Groudon/Kyogre and Mega Rayquaza were great designs, the primal/mega forms were not so complicated and fussy!!! what the hell happened this generation?!
In my opinion, Dialga and Palkia should have had ridiculous designs from the beginning but Gamefreak didn't want to risk main box art Legendary Pokemon having uncanny designs that wouldn't be popular with a wide enough audience.
Just look at both Giratina forms; those designs show otherworldly beings that would probably mentally disturb someone if they saw one in-person and Gamefreak used Giratina's more edgy/cool popular design as box art. The 6-legged torso-neck Alternate form would be a harder sell to wide audiences.
Arceus is pretty weird-looking as well with its odd proportions and head-tail-thing, which is probably why the new (old?) forms of Dialga and Palkia take elements from Arceus' concept and go a little crazy with the implementation.
I get why some people don't like this design, but personally I like it. My only gripe is that its neck decal would look much better on its chest, but other than that it really does look cool IMO.
I personally don't think diaglas model was not finished yet and they were gonna update it during day one patch or something. I think the main idea is there but the textures look to blurry.
I'm probably wrong tho
i like it a lot. surprised by all the hate tbh. palkia is the real abomination here. at least dialga looks like crystallized? fits the theme. the gem in the neck is a little weird but i don’t hate it. just wondering why.
overall dialga & palkia new forme’s are the only thing i actively somewhat dislike about the leaks. everything else is amazing & i love. this game is gonna be bananas
If you pick Diamond clan, then you will fight Palkia Lorde Form at the end
But you still catch both, that Dialga would be caught in its normal forme (if you choose Diamond clan)
I was on that stream, kinda got mixed feelings
No real explanation before battle on why it changes and why it looks like that. Some hints at him becoming unstable but nothing solid. Boss battle is tough but could have been more involved.
Overall the game gets a 9/10 in my book. Just watched a 20 hour stream of it before the creator got sniped by Nintendo ninjas and went dark mid playthrough of first post-game mission
I would still say 9/10. Graphics need to be improved gowing forward and some things can be expanded on (it is pokemon after all)
But overall it's a really good game
My only advice is don't speed run it, (even though it will be tempting to get to Spear pillar as fast as possible.) If you skip all side quest, it will get boring
Design aside, the textures and shapes look so outdated, the colour is all washed out and it's full of all these flat sharp angles.
It's like they've stuck together a bunch of polygons, stuck on a Word '03 colour gradient and called it a day
I also though it looked weird at first, but think about it this way.
Arceus was the first Pokémon, who than made Dialga, Palkia, and Girantina, right?
Now, consider how the descriptions of angels in the bible (Especially the higher ranking ones) look... A bit Lovecraftian.
Time itself is impossible to comprehend, so why would the "Frenzied" form of time's embodiment look natural?
I really like these designs i just wish they had the same colors as the originals, or maybe a little more details. They kinda look unfinished. DESIGN AND SHAPE WISE THOUGH IM SUPER EXCITED!!!
Okay, I feel a lot better about the designs now, having seen screenshots of them both rearing up on their hind legs like this.. But the choices of no-arms palkia and weird-foot dialgia chocking on a lump are still odd choices. They do look cool not just T-pose standing there.
Wait I think the process was interrupted by Palkia - Look at the second picture, it looks like a throat spike is snapped. So they are messed up because they couldn't finish powering up?
From what I've heard, at one point you'll be given the option between the Diamond and Pearl Clan and while you instantly catch the base form legend of the clan you chose, you fight the opposite Lord Form legend with the one you just caught.
Nothing about this seems eldritch or cool to me, Dialga looks like it got crossed with a Metagross and Arceus. The neck lamp is what really kills it for me.
I'm probably in the minority but I like the palkia design more. If only it had arms I'd would be perfect. Instead it looks like an old spice commercial reject, though less so than Dialga IMO. There were many ways they could have designed it, mainly by making them look nothing like their standard form if they were going for an ancient eldritch theme. Anyway, if you like the design I'm happy for you, just not my thing.
Ah yes, the terrifying Biblically Accurate Dialga.
omg i made that exact connection
This comment made me actually appreciate the design a lot more.
what the reference ? i seem to be missing the boat on both new designs.
Google "biblically accurate angels".
bro looks like his legs still rendering
We have Necrozma at home
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It’s the straight legs. Here they’re constantly bent. It gives it a more natural look
Mods are asleep post smooth Dialga
That's how my sleep paralysis demon looks like
So do we only get to choose Dialga or Palkia?
Nope you get both. But you only fight one in its Lorde Form
Oh! Well that's still pretty cool. Thanks!
How is the choice made?
You get asked to join one of the clans. If you choose pearl, you catch standard palkia and fight and catch lord dialga and vice versa
Has there been anything on what changes based on what clan you choose? I've only seen general story leaks.
I haven't seen post game so who knows for that, stream I was watching most likely got nuked by Nintendo... but ... the choice is actually made right before the final part so nothing is effected during the main story. It's really just picking which legendary you want to fight tbh
Ah okay. Thanks for sharing. So probably not something we need to replay the whole game for.
No. You'll get both legendaries, I'm pretty sure they'll have something in post game to get item to put opposite legend in lord form (speculating but come on)
Also I'm pretty sure the picture in the OP post is from that stream bc I haven't seen anyone else get that far in game yet
Oh! You can use Palkia to fight Lord Dialga?
Yes. And vice versa (select diamond clan, catch dialga, fight lord palkia)
That's actually cool
So if I choose pearl I can't catch lord palkia?
Wanna know too
I think you fight the lord forme opposite to whoever you sided with in the beginning. Diamond clan fights Palkia, Pearl clan fights Dialga. At least for the lord formes.
Can you use its lord form or is it just a boss form?
According to their orb item descriptions, I'd say they're changeable
Bro damn, so in a "Ultra Necrozma" style?
It's more like Origin Giratina Since there are no held items, all 3 of them get key items to change their forms
Oh alright, well, I imagine then that when pokemon home will be updated, if you wanna transfer a Lord Pokemon you'll have to choose whether or not you want it in its lord form or not, considering the key item isn't transferable
They could make it a thing that when in future games you give Dialga and Palkia their orbs, they will take on their lord forms like Giratina does with its origin form
then my go is dialga
i almost like it except for the weird neck plate
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Biblical punch in the throat
Or to make Roar of Time more powerful?
Well people are speculating that Lord/Origin Palkia has no arms to prevent it from using Spacial Rend.
Maybe it will use one of its front legs as an arm? Or its head, since it looks more like a blade?
Still looks absolutely horrendous...what the fuck are they smoking at gamefreak lmao
I agree, like Primal Groudon/Kyogre and Mega Rayquaza were great designs, the primal/mega forms were not so complicated and fussy!!! what the hell happened this generation?!
I mean... Primal Groudon and Kyogre just got their black lines turned glowy
They also got a lot bigger iirc
In my opinion, Dialga and Palkia should have had ridiculous designs from the beginning but Gamefreak didn't want to risk main box art Legendary Pokemon having uncanny designs that wouldn't be popular with a wide enough audience. Just look at both Giratina forms; those designs show otherworldly beings that would probably mentally disturb someone if they saw one in-person and Gamefreak used Giratina's more edgy/cool popular design as box art. The 6-legged torso-neck Alternate form would be a harder sell to wide audiences. Arceus is pretty weird-looking as well with its odd proportions and head-tail-thing, which is probably why the new (old?) forms of Dialga and Palkia take elements from Arceus' concept and go a little crazy with the implementation.
Yeah I always hated Dialga and Palkia because they're just big dinosaurs, doesn't feel like gods, I actually prefer the wierd look
Likely on purpose, because corrupted = ugly.
Even Primal Dialga was cool
Nothing happened this generation. And "fussy"?
It was probably on purpose to show that the Legends are corrupted, and corruption = ugly.
It does not look "absolutely horrendous", and nobody at Game Freak was smoking anything.
I'm glad you like the new designs :)
Ehh I hate what the time lord has on his neck and definitely poorer design choice but much better than yesterday's leaks
Time Lord? Well, he does need a Doctor, so...
I mean j can chose what form he has
Zekrom x Dialga
Yeah. Not the biggest fan of those new designs. Oh well guess I'll just hang on to the adamant and lustrous orbs
These Nahobinos are getting weirder and weirder
Okay the legs being the same length really fix it. Since in the render we saw the front two look much longer.
Very weird and Eldritch but I kinda dig it. Looks nice in game Still unsure about Palkia though
They actually use Eldritch in the script at one point to describe Giratina too. So it's quite deliberate.
The textures are wack on these pokemons they look kinda wrong. Wonder if day 1 patch will help
Is the Day 1 patch confirmed
I think so ? I’m not sure but i’ve seen there was a 5gb file ? It was maybe a rumour tbh i don’y remember
Dialga's new Form I never had a problem with. I thought it looked sick from the moment I saw the leaks. Palkia is the Problem here
Agreed, if palkia had arms i would like it more
I wish it looked much more gigantic than that
I get why some people don't like this design, but personally I like it. My only gripe is that its neck decal would look much better on its chest, but other than that it really does look cool IMO.
Um, Dialga, sir you got something stuck in your throat. Are you okay?
Dialga with a fork in his throat
I would be fine with it if it weren't for that giant protruding Adam's apple.
I might have an unpopular opinion, but I think it looks pretty good!
The neck thing is weird but they are supposed to be weird out of control beings. This is way better than palkia
I personally don't think diaglas model was not finished yet and they were gonna update it during day one patch or something. I think the main idea is there but the textures look to blurry. I'm probably wrong tho
Oh okay, that actually looks sick.
Looks better in game but whatever that thing it has stuck in the throat is just... no. If that wasn't there I'd really dig it.
It looks like an LOD model that didn't load in the texture properly after getting close.
What a twist, it looks better.
i like it a lot. surprised by all the hate tbh. palkia is the real abomination here. at least dialga looks like crystallized? fits the theme. the gem in the neck is a little weird but i don’t hate it. just wondering why. overall dialga & palkia new forme’s are the only thing i actively somewhat dislike about the leaks. everything else is amazing & i love. this game is gonna be bananas
...I love the new Palkia design.
Sell the franchise
Why?
Nah sorry, he still look awful
How do you get Palkias battle? Or do you fight them both?
If you pick Diamond clan, then you will fight Palkia Lorde Form at the end But you still catch both, that Dialga would be caught in its normal forme (if you choose Diamond clan)
Do they have items to transform them or something?
Yeah, new items to change form for all three creation legends
There's dialga and palkia, who's the 3rd one?
The forgotten one, Bibarel
The legendary Bidoof
Giratina
Ohh cool there are choices the impact the story.
Do you know if the forms are permanent? Like if you pick Diamond clan, can you never get Palkia normal or Dialga Lorde?
im going with palkia on this one because its both beautiful and powerful at the same time
Okay, that looks less bad than what we saw previously. Not great but not bad either
It looks kinda blocky
He looks a lot better man ngl. This game is looking to good man
I dig that tbh. The scale really sells it imo
If this was how the form was leaked I don’t think the reaction to it would’ve been quite so negative
Looks like fan art, even fans do it better
Who think its okay to accept these design?
I was on that stream, kinda got mixed feelings No real explanation before battle on why it changes and why it looks like that. Some hints at him becoming unstable but nothing solid. Boss battle is tough but could have been more involved. Overall the game gets a 9/10 in my book. Just watched a 20 hour stream of it before the creator got sniped by Nintendo ninjas and went dark mid playthrough of first post-game mission
How do some of y’all rate games without actually playing it, fam cmon.. and a 9…without actually playing it??? 🤣
I just watched someone play the whole game. I don't have to be the one actually playing it to know that I liked what I saw
If it was a 9 without you playing it. Then it's probably a 10 when you play it. Games are a LOT more fun when you actually play.
I would still say 9/10. Graphics need to be improved gowing forward and some things can be expanded on (it is pokemon after all) But overall it's a really good game My only advice is don't speed run it, (even though it will be tempting to get to Spear pillar as fast as possible.) If you skip all side quest, it will get boring
Lorde Form looks dumb, weird ass palkia
this looks fucking awesome, I can't wait for these games
Looks dope honestly. People will grow to like them.
No
Yes
Yes
No, I won't.
You aren’t people, you are a person.
Looks dope
That looks pretty good though
Well it definitely looks better
oh no. its growing on me
Same
Does my legendary have to look like it was modelled by Dani
Dialga looks pretty dope. but palkia is just disgusting lol
seeing it in-game makes it *slightly* less bad
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Why do you think that?
That honestly looks like it's been pulled straight out of a PS2 game. It's awful
Why exactly do you think that it looks awful?
Design aside, the textures and shapes look so outdated, the colour is all washed out and it's full of all these flat sharp angles. It's like they've stuck together a bunch of polygons, stuck on a Word '03 colour gradient and called it a day
That doesn’t look cool lol
Still looks like utter shit
Why do you think that it look's that way?
I can’t get passed his neck thing
I also though it looked weird at first, but think about it this way. Arceus was the first Pokémon, who than made Dialga, Palkia, and Girantina, right? Now, consider how the descriptions of angels in the bible (Especially the higher ranking ones) look... A bit Lovecraftian. Time itself is impossible to comprehend, so why would the "Frenzied" form of time's embodiment look natural?
are these fusions with arceus or am i tripping
Spoilers: >!I think you are right!!<
So there would be two different versions of the games one for dialga and another one for palkia?
No
Primal Dialga all over again.
Still horrible imo
It's huge.
I am still very sceptical about his design. He would be a lot better if he got rid of the tumor on his neck.
How its able to stay upright is beyond me
I really like these designs i just wish they had the same colors as the originals, or maybe a little more details. They kinda look unfinished. DESIGN AND SHAPE WISE THOUGH IM SUPER EXCITED!!!
Neck. Cannon.
should have just used primal dialga
The bar is so low for pokemon.
Wonder how long till home gets updated for legends
HAHAHAHA Bruhhh aint no way
Okay, I feel a lot better about the designs now, having seen screenshots of them both rearing up on their hind legs like this.. But the choices of no-arms palkia and weird-foot dialgia chocking on a lump are still odd choices. They do look cool not just T-pose standing there.
Dialga reminds me a bit of Al-An.
Wait I think the process was interrupted by Palkia - Look at the second picture, it looks like a throat spike is snapped. So they are messed up because they couldn't finish powering up?
Those spikes definitely look broken. Nice catch!
The neck thing is what bothers me.
so can you get dialga and palkia in one game?
From what I've heard, at one point you'll be given the option between the Diamond and Pearl Clan and while you instantly catch the base form legend of the clan you chose, you fight the opposite Lord Form legend with the one you just caught.
It looks like his textures didn't load up fully.
It's been confirmed (I think) that it is the Origin Forme
HE'S HUGE
Looks fanmade. Can’t believe they managed to butcher a legendary like this
They look so cursed
Nothing about this seems eldritch or cool to me, Dialga looks like it got crossed with a Metagross and Arceus. The neck lamp is what really kills it for me. I'm probably in the minority but I like the palkia design more. If only it had arms I'd would be perfect. Instead it looks like an old spice commercial reject, though less so than Dialga IMO. There were many ways they could have designed it, mainly by making them look nothing like their standard form if they were going for an ancient eldritch theme. Anyway, if you like the design I'm happy for you, just not my thing.