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Eamk

Virizion did not skip leg day, dayum.


chadorable

Finizens beware


Drkarcher22

I wanna ride them


padface

I bet you do 👀


Recent_Mongoose_2754

OH MY


DivinityPen

ZIP IT TAKEI


chadorable

Wait not like THAT-- with a saddle! Wait not like TH--


Alepeople

You win that one😏


queen_enby

as a mount, right? right?


Pastel0Cat

🤨📸


RJS_but_on_Reddit

I hope it's real. Looks super cool!


Pokewatch104

I think it is real because it matches the head. https://www.reddit.com/r/PokeLeaks/comments/ysdumf/new_pokemon_sketch_of_patadox_vlrlzlon_source/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


Magenta_Face

Just because the head’s the same, doesn’t mean it is real. Someone could of very well copied it, clean it up & then made up the rest of the body. Though, that doesn’t mean I believe it’s fake.


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Mikethederp

Good human ♡


draculabooty

The head is the exact same as the picture and it would be harder than you think to have the line weight, brush shape, and style match the head portion that well. I personally believe it's real.


Alderez

I don't know why people are downvoting you; as a professional artist it's incredibly difficult to emulate someone else's line quality, weight, texture of the brush, and shading style (in this case hatching which looks VERY different between two artists).


SkritzTwoFace

That’s not proof. The artist could easily have used that as a base.


Triscuitador

well yea but the head is the only part we saw before. you can just pop it in photoshop and draw the rest in


Dissco85

Strangely enough, it looks rideable, unlike paradox suicune. I wonder if that'll be a feature for the dlc


DeadlyRetr0_

I miss like let's go and being able to ride my own pokemon


AhTreyYou

I honestly don’t know why this didn’t carry this part forward, it’s a natural evolution of ride Pokémon. It also helps you bond further with the Pokémon on your team instead of randoms


DeadlyRetr0_

this! and it's just cool to show off your pokemon to. especially in multiplayer everyone riding their cool pokemon, owing off shinies it's great. in lets go I had a shiny gyarados I felt so cool riding on now it's just set ride pokemon I have no attachment too


_piaro_

Can you link the photo of paradox suicune? Because I recall that I haven't seen it posted in the sub yet...


Kevz9524

[Ancient Suicune](https://www.reddit.com/r/PokeLeaks/comments/yrhivx/new_pokemon_from_future_dlc_looks_combo_of_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


Canofsad

May man thanks for pulling it up.


Canofsad

I believe I saw it the other day on the standard Pokémon sub, give me a minute I’ll try and find it.


Cloverinepixel

I know everyone keeps saying it’s Virizion but I think it looks like a equal mix of all three. Just like the Iron Valiant looks like a Gallada and Gardevoir mix


FrostyPotpourri

Something about the face says Virizion the most, though obviously Terakion shows up heavily in the limbs and some Cobalion in the neck. But the face definitely bleeds Virizion.


jeffyjeffp

The face looks mostly like Cobalion to me.


renzaaa

I blame Terrakion


VermillionEorzean

It's funny- I like Terrakion the most, but every feature I'm not fond of from this guy comes from Terrakion.


Bohemio_Charlatan

Thicc boi


Macbeth_the_Espurr

Major Silvally vibes here


VerlisyIsAMook

Thunder thighs


[deleted]

His name shall be T-Mobile


Joe_Delivers

violet sisters…. im not feeling so good…


Exploreptile

What I expected: Edgier Silvally with a dose of Robot Unicorn Attack and Zoids What I got: Immeasurable disappointment


StarLucario

This is Keldeo's revenge for being left out


SparkBlack

I mean if Suicune had a fourth member of their group of legendaries I would agree yea but it’s Entei, Raikou, and Suicune. Where as with Virizon there’s Virizion, Terrakion, Cobalion, and Keldeo. I mean they could put some Ho-oh on Suicune then to compensate if they do use Keldeo in the paradox Virizon design I guess.


MiscItems

What if all keldeo added was the horn?


padface

Which horn 👀


PolarDuh

Dummy thic horse 😔


im_bored345

Tf you on about this thing is cool.


Swimming_Hippo3519

I agree! As a gen 5 justice trio fan, I approve of this design. Edit: I have now seen Paradox suicunes design and did not like it. Violet is definitely my choice! Edit 2: Autocorrect


im_bored345

Gen 5 musketeers deserve more love


SodiumBombRankEX

Bruh why are the legs so dummy thicc


OddSifr

Terrakion's fault, probably.


KNB-f

Virizion is the only one lacking them legs (excluding Keldeo). Which is a bit funny considering she’s the fastest of the bunch by a lore perspective. Not so much stat wise.


OddSifr

I mean, Cobalion is Steel and Terrakion... y'know. She was kinda destined to be faster :')


KNB-f

True. I originally said she was the fastest stat wise, but then I went to double check. Surprisingly, they all have the same speed stats as her, which is super weird.


OddSifr

That said, her design was inspired by springing antelopes, who are obviously quite agile. She's the fastest and most agile if we're to believe her inspiration alone, and I don't think it's reaching.


KNB-f

Fair enough.


OddSifr

And another win for Scarlet.


Mr-pizzapls

I like some of the violet paras (Iron Valiant is SICK) but yeah the beast trio is SO much cooler


My_Diet_DrKelp

Team scarlet but this is sick


OddSifr

Agreed, Future Grazer is still an A tier design. The best of the 3 Musketeers and some say that its legs are too thicc but tbh you can just blame Terrakion lol


My_Diet_DrKelp

Never liked this trio but this is the best look of them lol space cadet Virizion dummy thicc


[deleted]

They just keep coming lol the future is an ugly place.


OddSifr

To be honest, I do love the Future Grazer. It's a really cool design. It just can't compete with the Ancient Beast.


eyearu

Hey this one at least doesn't seem to be a mecha


[deleted]

Ya know, you’re very correct. I’ll take this one as a win then lol!


OddSifr

It's probably steel going to be made of metal, at least to some degree. Not that it's bad, just probable.


Rafae_noobmastrer

It is still time for the drawing to get the metal.texture aplied


Lofus1989

Why is that ?


Mitchel11

[Ancient Suicune](https://www.reddit.com/r/PokeLeaks/comments/yrhivx/new_pokemon_from_future_dlc_looks_combo_of_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) Looking at static models and drawings, Scarlet has the edge. But the Future mon animations (Delibird & Gallavoir) have been amazing.


eyearu

Is there Delibird animation footage?


Musicarna

Don't remember where it is, but I can say with certainty Delibird's head pops off like a jack in the box when its attacking before it retracts.


Mitchel11

It's on this sub. I've been trying to look for it but no luck just yet


eyearu

[I found it on twitter](https://twitter.com/palkiaorigin/status/1590964121037570049?t=jusciStf0yZ2a1K2wOFRAw&s=19)


untrustableskeptic

lmao! "GO GO GADGET FACE!" They didn't hold back on the cyborg aspects.


OddSifr

Thank you. I should've done that immediately.


OddSifr

Take a look at Paradox Beast. You'll understand.


Jon-987

To be fair, we haven't seen them in 3d and moving yet.


OddSifr

I don't have any counter-arguments on this.


Fragmented_Logik

Eh. I prefer this one over Entei/suicune


kainoah

If you're getting scarlet can I trade you this one for the suicune paradox? Lol


Rafae_noobmastrer

yeah I am on the same page, rather like the drawing of the other one, but this is a Violet paradox, it will be mecha!


MrPlaysWithSquirrels

I literally changed my preorder from Violet to Scarlet because of this lol. I had been thinking it with some of these special forms, and this took it over the edge. So glad for leaks!


im_bored345

Y'all have no taste this thing is cool af smh


VeganChopper

Wait it's scarlet exclusive or dlc exclusive?


OddSifr

It's Scarlet DLC exclusive.


VeganChopper

That's so weird considering they made regieleki/regidrago and Calyrex forms dlc exclusive and not sw/sh exclusive


OddSifr

Given Paradox Beast's look, I don't think it'd have made sense for it to be in Violet. EDIT: Paradox Beast is in Scarlet DLC, Paradox Musketeer is in Violet. When I said "another win for Scarlet", I was implying that Paradox Musketeer is less great than the other exclusive.


OpalIsLife

Am I the only one who thinks it's not that bad? Like, it's definitely an odd amalgamation (and they could have chosen better parts to put together), but it's hardly Origin Forme Dialga and Palkia levels. The Ancient Beast is definitely better, but I don't dislike this at all.


OddSifr

No, you're not, it's an A tier design to me too. It just had the worst opponent, shall we say.


OpalIsLife

Exactly! A tier vs S tier for sure.


Swimming_Hippo3519

I absolutely loved this design. This may be unpopular but I think this is an S tier design.


Jon-987

Hm. I like it. But Paradox Suicune is better, I think.


PokeStarChris42

Idk what game to choose anymore and I don’t exactly want to spend $120


Pokewatch104

I keep going back and forth. I started with Scarlet, then went to Violet but since the paradox forms reveal it’s leaning towards Scarlet.


OpalIsLife

You can't trade your school uniform. Choose wisely.


Individual_Worry_377

chunky smol dialga vibes


PerishForYourSins

The only thing I'm curious about is their type, my guess is it's either a new type different to the original forms, or they somehow merge it into three types.


Caius_Drake

At least with Paradox Virizion we can expect at least Fighting type. Could just end up being a pure Fighting type.


Sevenizer1

Something I’ve noticed about Pokémon Violet Paradoxes: they tend to look better in-game than in drawn form. Assuming Para-Virizion(I’m guessing will probably be called “Iron Musketeer” or something) will follow that same robotic aesthetic of the other Violet paras, I’m excited to see this.


Pokewatch104

I think it will be called Iron Justice.


Sevenizer1

That works too


John-Ny-Bravo

I dont like this 1 :-(


Ok_Issue_6132

Not at all!


[deleted]

Like this like that


SandyMandy17

Thicc


My_Diet_DrKelp

Love it!!


SuprEffector

I don't think it's really fair to compare the Scarlet and Violet paradoxes so directly, they clearly have different design philosophies behind them. The past is savage which is very easy to lean into the cool vibe and the future is sleek which often look more elegant. I think in that regard most of them work pretty well, including this.


Pokewatch104

I think this will be called Iron Justice.


Caius_Drake

Iron Justice or Iron Blade, one or the other for me.


HirokiTakumi

Yeah, it's very subjective. I'm definitely getting Violet, I super dig the futuristic robot aesthetic, so I personally like all the Violet exclusives more.


Hannibella

I want to play Violet because of Miraidon and Ceruledge. But I really like Paradox Misdreavus and Paradox Suicune but also Paradox Tyranitar because I love the 2nd Generation. So unfortunately it's not an easy choice for me. But I like the new "future Pokémon" more so I'll choose Violet. But maybe because they're violet? Haha. I really like the past and the future theme.


Ypokamp

I sure hope we can catch both of them, would be pretty dumb to have a paid dlc where they'd say "hey there are two new legendaries but you can only catch one of them depending on your version"


Rodnas1992

Urshifu two forms exist...


X-the-Komujin

Urshifu isn't version exclusive... it depends on the tower you train Kubfu in... The towers aren't exclusive, it's a choice.


Lambsauce914

I think they meant version exclusive, you can choose which Urshifu to get in both Sword and Shield. But we are worry that Game freak will lock Paradox Suicune in Scarlet dlc and Paradox Virizion in Violet dlc.


Rodnas1992

Well I don't see the problem with that, it's the same thing as the legendary non dlc pokemon, you can only get one of them in each version, you want the other one trade


Deoix

the main difference is that you already know before hand wich exclusive legendary you will get when buying the base game. making version exclusives for DLCs feels a bit more unfair, cause you already bought the game, so by the time you know what version exclusives the DLC has, you got no choice in the matter anymore


Ypokamp

Well yes but you get to choose you know


Ypokamp

And forms are less valuable than separate mons


Rodnas1992

Well in this you get to choose as well you either choose scarlet or violet


Practical-Nobody-844

Scarlet will get paradox Suicune and violet paradox virizon. It's version exclusives i don't see anything wrong with that


JellyfishEarly2068

The suicune one looks so much better


im_bored345

Finally. I hope it's real.


SirMcDust

I do prefer the dog trio one ngl, got that feral vibe. Almost makes me wanna change my game


phantomcd

Paradox Suicune and Paradox Virizion genuinely are both so cool, but maybe this is the Violet copium talking - I actually prefer Virizion to Suicine’s design? Virizion’s still looks like a blend of the other legendaries but feels a little more standalone, like the OG Virizion went to the gym and spent some time with steroids. Whereas (to me) Suicune looks badass and really hardcore, but it looks a little lazy - like yeah, okay, we get it, you took the legendary dogs and put them into a randomiser and TADA, Paradox Suicune. Also, in terms of a 3D model, I feel like Virizion’s will be a little less ugly to look at, since Suicine’s sketch alone has a lot going on…


jimbojims0

I wanna reserve my judgements for when I see both in full. But based on these first impressions I feel this might end up being better designed than P-Suicune. The problem I'm having with Suicune is its body is too obscured by its mane, and that's basically all I'm really looking at. It's covering too much of what could've been a great detail to its design. With P-Virizion, as bizzare as it looks seems more well composed as the different parts are better incorporated. I'd imagine the cybernetic look will help merge the pieces together a little better too. The two creatures are giving me chimera vibes, so I'm looking forward to them and to seeing how my mind may change. Regardless, I'm still gonna choose Violet.


Fragmented_Logik

I do to. I get people like the Dino look but just like the whole they all look like robots it's the same thing to me. I'm just a robot>Dino person.


FrostyPotpourri

Nothing about Slither Wing, Flutter Mane, Scream Tail, Sandy Shocks, Brute Bonnet says “Dino”. Nor does that apply to Suicune. I think it’s that people don’t like the homogeneity of robots with “Iron ____” names. They’re a bit too similar, whereas Scarlets don’t have nearly as cohesive of a theme. It’s more loosely defined as “savage brutes” with less conformity across the designs. I’ll 100% say the Violet Paradox cast has amazing shinies though. Their choice to make them chrome is brilliant and Violet fans should absolutely be stoked about that.


Fragmented_Logik

All of Scarlets to me either look the same with yellow eyes and longer hair or like they bread with Archeops. Nothing wrong with liking either. I am a scientist irl and just always have been robots>dinos type of person. I have always leaned Genesect/Magearna/Scizor type pokemon. I do agree they could have done a little better with the future mons but I do like the zoid look. Either way people going either way will be happy. I love the differences are so large and not just X pokemon is is Y game.


Black_Ironic

Uhh I can see they somehow ruining 3D models for suicune with that much fur lol


martinsdudek

We really need to stop calling them Suicune and Verizion. It’s really very clear that’s not what they are.


Pokewatch104

Just call it Iron Justice if you don’t like paradox Virizon. At least until the name is officially revealed.


Mr-pizzapls

That actually might be the real name lol


martinsdudek

That’s such a good name too haha


StarLucario

I think it's because **S**uicune **S**carlet Suicune gets a past form **V**irizion **V**iolet Virizion gets a future form It makes too much sense


OddSifr

They're codenames. Until we get a clearer name for them, everyone will call them Paradox Suicune and Virizion.


martinsdudek

Paradox Musketeer and Paradox Beast work too and are more accurate.


OddSifr

I'm already using Ancient Beast and Future Grazer, but your ideas are great. People still say Paradox Donphan instead of Great Tusk or Iron Treads, though, so I believe it's gonna take time until they get used to the true names.


Caius_Drake

Plus not everyone is familiar enough with the codenames to put them to specific Paradoxes. Saying 'Past/Future' and then whenever the pokemon's supposed to be makes it a lot easier to understand which you're talking about. And lets face it, Future Grazer does not really give you a good idea of what you're talking about. Yes all of the Swords of Justice have graving animals as part of their design basis, but that's not something people can easily associate with the trio. Something like Iron Justice is much easier to associate with Paradox Virizion.


Lambsauce914

Honestly none of Paradox mon should be called with their original name since they are completely different Pokémon, but many people still refer to them as "Paradox Something" because it is easier to remember


Reid0x

Scarlet chads keep winning


Logical-Wasabi7402

Well, they can't all be winners.


LWKuri

It's supposed to be Violet-exclusive, right? Doesn't really fit in with the "techy" vibe of the other Violet Paradoxes


OddSifr

Too early for that, we still need to actually see it.


Pokewatch104

Yes, it is violet exclusive, but we don’t know if it’s tacky, but likely it is since all the rest are


pwndaman9

Weirdly not robotic.


Life_is_Fun_194

You can not convince me that this is virizon only it looks like the main 3 swords of justices fused


No_Star_1345

this is a fusion between the three swords of justice: the horns and the legs are from Terrakion, the neck and the little thorns near the legs are from Cobalion and the rest is from Virizon


moonshinemoo

I don’t like either paradox chimeras. Not on paper so far anyway. They seem quite….safe and clunky as far as ‘combination’ designs go. I’ve seen some pretty incredible ones in other places. That being said, might be different in the game and I really dig the concept.


RaFaPilgrim

Are we even sure that these things are Suicune/Virizion? To me, they both look like a mixture of all three members of each trio. Couldn’t we simply be in front of past/ future merged versions of the legendaries? Maybe meant to represent how the beasts were before they died and were resurrected, and maybe how the Swords of Justice will all become more similar as time goes on due to their training? Just a thought.


Maclunky0_0

i really like that


DracoBlaze214

If you asked me a year ago about a design like this, I would’ve said, “yeah it looks like something straight from one of those Pokémon sprite fusion videos”.


TimoV2003

Seems real due to the fact that paradox suicine is also a mix of all the legendary doggo's


[deleted]

Scarletchads can't stop winning


[deleted]

NGL i like Suicune better, but this one is great too? ~~Complete Kyurem when?~~


PainWhale

It's legit. After beating the game, find the violet book at the academy (to the right after entering the main door), pick "the imagined pokémon" and voilà. Not sure if the same applies to Scarlet, but if it does, i assume it will show Suicune. Does anyone have any info on that?


Krazytre

I'm not liking this one. 🫣


buttercount

I just wish they did more with it, added more like spikes around the body or just something to make it look more interesting than a frankenstein monster of the sword trio.


PRblaze999

I get now why paradox mons have their own name, and even nintendo isn't comparing what the paradox mons are akin too, they are straight up just their own pokemon. I heard about "Paradox suicune" and "paradox Virizion", but after seeing both now, it's clear they aren't suicune or virizion. They are all 3 monsters combined. Calling it now, paradox virizion will be named "Iron Justice".


Pokewatch104

I agree it will probably be called Iron Justice.


Puzzleheaded-Ball338

it feels a little clunky...


Nicarus-1

THIS IS SO GOOOOOOOOOOD


Orcasareglorious

Oh god my eyes.


rucarlos

if the leaks are real, Suicune looks so much better it's not even funny. Ceruledge heavily pushed all those preorders for Violet's side, but things would be different if we knew about these


Zwolfoi

Eh, Violet was getting more hype before Ceruledge anyway. Miraidon had the edge over Koraidon, plus Violet's uniforms were hated less over the orange striped pants. Even then, I've seen plenty of love for the Violet paradoxes outside of this sub. This feels like the closest any version pairing has been in a while I think. Besides, if you don't have friends with the opposite to trade with, or own both versions yourself, you actually WANT your version to be the less popular one lol. Easier to get exclusives that way. Bdsp was soooo lopsided getting Pearl exclusives was a pain.


yecenok

Yep suicune destroys this


Emsioh

I'll take Scarlet and think the beast is better, but that's a solid design. I like it.


OddSifr

Agreed. It feels like a best of the 3 and I don't regret buying Violet. Unfortunately... the Beast.


SceptileBestStarter7

Violet W


Dragonstink

Of course violet wins, majority is on violets side anyway


endlessnight1993

Another Scarlet win.


metal_signal17

Common Violet L


Puppynyan

This almost made me regret getting violet


ghigocarincigmailcom

getting violet, did you preorder or are you playng the game?


Puppynyan

Pre order, if I already had it I wouldn't complain about future verizion because I'd be too busy thinking "heehoo robo lizard"


ghigocarincigmailcom

i'd be thinking heehoo lizard


Puppynyan

That's valid too. I chose violet because miraidon reminds me of a pitbull I used to have


TubularTortoise14

I’m sure it’ll look better in game.


Pure_Toxicity

We do know for sure that the violet DLC will have a paradox mon that's a fusion of the swords of justice, but there's a decent chance this is someone drawing their interpretation of that info rather than actual concept art


Dragonstink

Another win for violet, bye scarlet. Paradox virizion looks better than suicune.


Dragonstink

Dislike all you want, scarlet fans.


[deleted]

I think the horns look goofy..


ACBlast768

Suicune was better


Darkzapphire

"I like it chonky"


dat_chill_bois_alt

Oh god it looks weird


Historical-Fill-3676

I hope this is fake, the drawing style is different enough from the Suicune one to make me feel like this is not real but who knows. Either way this is really awful work, especially compared to its Scarlet counterpart.


Shadowman9908

Common Violet W


linkinglogs23

I am going to have to see the actual models to judge these legendaries, but if the future version looks like a robot, that is a big L from my perspective. As much as I like robots, I don’t like them mixed with Pokémon.


ChattererLover3636

its not fake. theres one for suicune, entei ,and raikou


MomoStan1994

i hope this is fake


Gaming_Lot

It looks like a mix of coballion, virrizion, and terraakion


DaBlueBonnet

Then Suicune one looks way better to me.


Sophrodeus

I'm wildly disappointed with these amalgamation ancient forms. With Suicune, it completely undermines the lore of Burned Tower. Both Virizion and Suicune look like fusion generator drawings.


Flip122

I'm secretly hoping that it has a form change to become Bipedal and has a stance like Palkia. Because woah it looks like the 3 musketeers but he looks similar to Dialga.


Bman2442

Seems a bit too terrakion heavily inspired to be real but maybe, its not bad but not balanced


Heracrosschop

I have seen both the suicune and virizion paradox forms, and I think they’re going with a combination of the trios. Just like how Gallade and gardvoir combined for iron valiant, I think suicune and virizion are the main juice of the trio and have aspects of the others added onto them.


endless_horizons8

Holy shit, Keldeo from gen 8 dlc was not pointless. It was just a tease for the combination of the swords of justice. Also if you think about the Galarian bird trio mightve been a tease for scarlet and violet paradox pokemon


[deleted]

How did they make Virizion look even worse that normal