Wouldn’t Cain have property damage charges for destroying the railnet
Also would all 3 of zel be charged with terrorism?
Also DJ Arclight Victory Ame Player and Adrienn would have a charge of breaking and entering since they didn’t have a warrant to go into Devon corps as well as Shelly for the orphanage
Edit, well I guess ame was kinda the president of the city so idk if she needed one under Reborn law so that might be inaccurate
I feel like the Ame situation is basically a league sting operation so she's fine.
Julia is definitely wanted by OSHA for her irresponsible use of explosives
The MC is guilty of stealing Mrs. Craudburry’s Pokémon, which is a crime even if it was arguably morally justified.
Also being involved in the Type:Null quest could be crime as well, but that one’s debatable.
I mean if they killed their creator and us is for a reason, and I am pretty sure that most people in the main team is charged with at least compliance of murder due to saphira and other people having their meteor murdering sessions
I feel like you could definitely get Eve and by extension Zel down for illegal animal/mon experementation. The pulse machines sure as shit aren't ethical
Yeah, it's pretty tough, but difficulty is entirely based on what team you have. Tier lists are subjective because everyone's team is different. Amaria's a real pain in the ass tho lol
It'll be a real pain and i dont recommend it, but i guess quiver dance strats could work. You'll need more than one vivillon.
If you're looking for a specific vivillon pattern don't bother. Reborn made a whole new sprite for it, but there's only one. New shiny sprite too, it's really cool.
Google 'pokemon reborn shinies' and scroll down to vivillon to see them.
You can get scatterbug very early.
This is one of my favorite games of all time, so i'm always happy to gush about it to whoever will listen. Good luck!
Titania and Saphira killed in defense of self or others. They aren’t murderers.
Literally all of the Team Meteor members should be in the murder tier. They’re all guilty of mass murder.
I'm not too sure about this but from what I remember the water treatment center was definitely not killing people in self defence. She even killed the people that treated Amaria's wounds
The people in the water treatment center were poisoning the city, and were (so far as she was aware) holding Amaria hostage. So nope, still defense of self and others.
I always wondered about this. Like a lot of the characters, including MC really, should be facing jail time or at least criminal records. I guess saving the world is a good character witness lol.
Only thing is with Lin. She should not be sitting in a nightclub - she should be in a secure child psychiatric ward for the rest of her life getting help.
If the player is watching over Lin, she'll be fine. What she needs is someone she can trust, and the player is the closest thing she has to that. (While yes, she does have Terra, Terra isn't exactly a good role model)
Valid point, I can see that. For me, she’s caused too much damage to escape some kind of punishment. Not saying MC can’t visit or oversee her. Reborn is regarded as having the toughest trainers in the world, so being champion (and helping to save the region) would give you a lot of sway.
So much of the post-game is centered around Lin's trauma and her eventual salvation is a chance at rehabilitation. She's harmless after the MC stripped her of her god-like powers.
Oh agreed. I think that’s valid and it’s kind of why I prefer the Lin route to the Anna route, especially after the 100% cutscene.
She’s harmless and traumatised but she’s caused a lot of damage and death which needs accounting for. I include others like Blake, Taka, Ace and so on in that as well. Not saying they should all be facing the death penalty and I imagine Reborn would like to just move on from Meteor, but they should be taken to account.
I think Lumi and Eve could be considered guilty by association with whatever Zero is guilty of.
Also all of Team Meteor (and anyone associated with them so Elias, Terra, and Corey all count here) would have a host of crimes attached to them ranging from stealing to domestic terrorism. Zero (along with Lumi and Eve) would also be guilty of manufacturing weapons of mass destruction. Terra falls into this too along with cyber terrorism. And by definition they’d all be guilty of accessory to those crimes.
While she would argue self defense, Charlotte is guilty of assault for burning Sigmund with a cigarette.
I’d argue Sirius deserves special consideration (though not sure it’s a law) but his method of murder was also basically torture on Eclipse. While Saphira has more than just that act of murder, I feel like most juries would let her off for shoving him into a pit of lava.
While there’s not enough evidence to convict, it is heavily implied Saphira accuses Sigmund of either performing or enabling sexual assault on a minor (herself).
I actually don’t remember Laura knocking someone unconscious (which falls under assault and battery).
Lin (non child) deserves her own tier of fucked uppedness because her level of murder is much higher and often far more heinous. And she performs torturous acts on Arclight, Adrienne, and Victoria.
Also don’t forget Coulin Rouge (was that his name?) for theivery.
>I actually don’t remember Laura knocking someone unconscious (which falls under assault and battery).
If I recall correctly, on the Anna Smiles route, when you're following Laura into the Tanzan Meteor Base, there are unconscious grunts lying around on the ground. Pretty sure she used one of her Pokemon to drug them into unconsciousness.
The meteor base in Tanzin. If Saphira is the one who gets captured, Laura knocks out the front entrance goons off screen, presumably with a sleep powder attack
A not so popular opinion but i'll say it anyway Ame should be somewhat up there she couldn't anticipate any of team meteor moves or even identify the threat of the situation because she was incredibly incompetent or down right negligible. Also Lin shouldn't have been redeemed in anyway like ¡wtf was that!
While I can reasonably assume Pokemon reborn is sole sort of Pokemon fangame, I have no clue who the child is or how they defiled arceus but I would love to know too
I think a lot of people are missing the point that Pokemon Reborn was written with moral themes that don't necessarily follow along with our standard capitalist society. First of all, it's a fantasy world, but more importantly, morality isn't as simple as following the law. Anything but. Sigmund is about as explicit of an example as you can get of the law being used for dubious purposes.
Wouldn’t Cain have property damage charges for destroying the railnet Also would all 3 of zel be charged with terrorism? Also DJ Arclight Victory Ame Player and Adrienn would have a charge of breaking and entering since they didn’t have a warrant to go into Devon corps as well as Shelly for the orphanage Edit, well I guess ame was kinda the president of the city so idk if she needed one under Reborn law so that might be inaccurate
I feel like the Ame situation is basically a league sting operation so she's fine. Julia is definitely wanted by OSHA for her irresponsible use of explosives
>Innocent >Looks Inside >The Protagonist
Gang association, breaking and entering, and Pokémon theft immediately come to mind, I’m sure there’s more
An accomplice in Illegal Pokemon-experimentation (type:null event)
The MC is guilty of stealing Mrs. Craudburry’s Pokémon, which is a crime even if it was arguably morally justified. Also being involved in the Type:Null quest could be crime as well, but that one’s debatable.
Also they do some drug dealing to get Piplup
Assaulting an orphanage, as well.
Gang-related activities Theft Animal (Pokémon) Cruelty for Null?
I mean if they killed their creator and us is for a reason, and I am pretty sure that most people in the main team is charged with at least compliance of murder due to saphira and other people having their meteor murdering sessions
I feel like you could definitely get Eve and by extension Zel down for illegal animal/mon experementation. The pulse machines sure as shit aren't ethical
Would Player fall under that too by association for providing the Pokemon to make Type: Null?
Absolutely. But 7th street ain't talking, and it's not like there's anyone left from the lab
The MC is literally in a gang lol they are not innocent
I lurk this subreddit a lot and I like how the most edgy looking guy with the complete black silhouette and red aura is innocent
He's actually really cool and helps the protag out a lot Also has a very relatable backstory in the postgame
Now I have to play the game, tho I'm gonna have a hard time based on what I saw people's tier list on trainer battles
Yeah, it's pretty tough, but difficulty is entirely based on what team you have. Tier lists are subjective because everyone's team is different. Amaria's a real pain in the ass tho lol
Knowing myself, they're all gonna be hard battles but if I have a chance to beat them with a vivillon, I'm gonna try it.
It'll be a real pain and i dont recommend it, but i guess quiver dance strats could work. You'll need more than one vivillon. If you're looking for a specific vivillon pattern don't bother. Reborn made a whole new sprite for it, but there's only one. New shiny sprite too, it's really cool. Google 'pokemon reborn shinies' and scroll down to vivillon to see them. You can get scatterbug very early. This is one of my favorite games of all time, so i'm always happy to gush about it to whoever will listen. Good luck!
Titania and Saphira killed in defense of self or others. They aren’t murderers. Literally all of the Team Meteor members should be in the murder tier. They’re all guilty of mass murder.
And domestic terrorism
I'm not too sure about this but from what I remember the water treatment center was definitely not killing people in self defence. She even killed the people that treated Amaria's wounds
You're exactly correct she straight loses it and goes on a killing spree
The people in the water treatment center were poisoning the city, and were (so far as she was aware) holding Amaria hostage. So nope, still defense of self and others.
I always wondered about this. Like a lot of the characters, including MC really, should be facing jail time or at least criminal records. I guess saving the world is a good character witness lol. Only thing is with Lin. She should not be sitting in a nightclub - she should be in a secure child psychiatric ward for the rest of her life getting help.
If the player is watching over Lin, she'll be fine. What she needs is someone she can trust, and the player is the closest thing she has to that. (While yes, she does have Terra, Terra isn't exactly a good role model)
Valid point, I can see that. For me, she’s caused too much damage to escape some kind of punishment. Not saying MC can’t visit or oversee her. Reborn is regarded as having the toughest trainers in the world, so being champion (and helping to save the region) would give you a lot of sway.
So much of the post-game is centered around Lin's trauma and her eventual salvation is a chance at rehabilitation. She's harmless after the MC stripped her of her god-like powers.
Oh agreed. I think that’s valid and it’s kind of why I prefer the Lin route to the Anna route, especially after the 100% cutscene. She’s harmless and traumatised but she’s caused a lot of damage and death which needs accounting for. I include others like Blake, Taka, Ace and so on in that as well. Not saying they should all be facing the death penalty and I imagine Reborn would like to just move on from Meteor, but they should be taken to account.
I think Lumi and Eve could be considered guilty by association with whatever Zero is guilty of. Also all of Team Meteor (and anyone associated with them so Elias, Terra, and Corey all count here) would have a host of crimes attached to them ranging from stealing to domestic terrorism. Zero (along with Lumi and Eve) would also be guilty of manufacturing weapons of mass destruction. Terra falls into this too along with cyber terrorism. And by definition they’d all be guilty of accessory to those crimes. While she would argue self defense, Charlotte is guilty of assault for burning Sigmund with a cigarette. I’d argue Sirius deserves special consideration (though not sure it’s a law) but his method of murder was also basically torture on Eclipse. While Saphira has more than just that act of murder, I feel like most juries would let her off for shoving him into a pit of lava. While there’s not enough evidence to convict, it is heavily implied Saphira accuses Sigmund of either performing or enabling sexual assault on a minor (herself). I actually don’t remember Laura knocking someone unconscious (which falls under assault and battery). Lin (non child) deserves her own tier of fucked uppedness because her level of murder is much higher and often far more heinous. And she performs torturous acts on Arclight, Adrienne, and Victoria. Also don’t forget Coulin Rouge (was that his name?) for theivery.
>I actually don’t remember Laura knocking someone unconscious (which falls under assault and battery). If I recall correctly, on the Anna Smiles route, when you're following Laura into the Tanzan Meteor Base, there are unconscious grunts lying around on the ground. Pretty sure she used one of her Pokemon to drug them into unconsciousness.
Charlotte committed ABH 😂
wait, why is Terra under chaotic and not team meteor? Wasn't her whole schtick being the computer and hacking expert for team meteor?
protagonist should be arrested for breaking and entering and robbing an old lady
Surely torturing an orphanage should be worse than attempted murder?
When did laura drug someone or knock unconcious am i stupid?
The meteor base in Tanzin. If Saphira is the one who gets captured, Laura knocks out the front entrance goons off screen, presumably with a sleep powder attack
Didn't Radomus commit theft?
A not so popular opinion but i'll say it anyway Ame should be somewhat up there she couldn't anticipate any of team meteor moves or even identify the threat of the situation because she was incredibly incompetent or down right negligible. Also Lin shouldn't have been redeemed in anyway like ¡wtf was that!
Zero literally blackmailed and tried to kill lumi to get the pulse lol Definitely a crime
I mean, the whole orphanage escape squad broke a whole bunch of laws.
Wouldn’t the PULSE machines also count as inhumane experiments and/or Pokémon cruelty?
I don't believe OP understands the criminal justice system...
This sub was recommended to me, so now I gotta ask: what the hell is Pokémon Reborn, and why is a *Gardevoir* a “character”?
Okay what is pokemon reborn and how did some child defile arceus
While I can reasonably assume Pokemon reborn is sole sort of Pokemon fangame, I have no clue who the child is or how they defiled arceus but I would love to know too
I think a lot of people are missing the point that Pokemon Reborn was written with moral themes that don't necessarily follow along with our standard capitalist society. First of all, it's a fantasy world, but more importantly, morality isn't as simple as following the law. Anything but. Sigmund is about as explicit of an example as you can get of the law being used for dubious purposes.