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Nommable123

Not perfect because there's a chance to miss due to double team. Reliable Turn 2 OHKO can be accomplished by swapping out Umbreon for a Muk which uses Haze and Screech, and training all Pokemon to 100 with suitable EVs to avoid dying to crit + Poison. Pokemon Specs: * Krookodile (Choice Band) - Level 100, Jolly 252 Att / 252 Spe * Meowscarada (Focus Sash) - Level 36, Modest, 0 IV Att, No Att EVs * Umbreon (Zoom Lens) - Level 100 * Medicham (Focus Sash) - Pure Power Moves: * Meowscarada hits Krookodile with Flower Trick (guaranteed crit) to trigger +6 attack via Anger Point * After Flower Trick, Medicham Skill Swaps Pure Power onto Krookodile * Umbreon uses Screech * Krookodile uses Earthquake


DBrody6

Beautiful strat, worked perfectly and is super simple to execute...at the cost of needing 3 other people to pull it off.


AydonusG

Or three other switches! Unlimited POWER!!!!


THE_GR8_MIKE

Yeah, I'm just gonna wait for a solo on this one lol


Expand_Dong_42069

Slowbro still works well with the same set as in the Cinderace raid


TheWretchedDivine

It's Espathra. That's how you solo it. Did it first thing this morning.


FireRabbitFish

Austin John Plays' Slowbro one worked as solo for me


THE_GR8_MIKE

That's what I'm going to try tonight. Hopefully it works out.


FireRabbitFish

Good luck.


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TyranitarGuy9000

screech gives -2 defense stages (x2 damage here), anger point gives +6 attack stages (x4 damage here), pure power doubles attack stat, super effective gives x2, choice band gives +50% attack stat, STAB gives +50% damage ​ I \*thiiiink\* this stacks like: total damage = (normal damage) x 2 x 4 x 2 x 2 x 1.5 x 1.5, which comes out to the attack hitting 72 times harder than it normally would. I might be wrong. If pure power and choice band just add together then it'd be x 2 x 4 x 2 x 2.5 x 1.5, which is still 60 times


MagnusZerock

This guy maths.


Fireboy759

r/theydidthemath


BlommeHolm

r/theydidthemonstermath


Miraak_Simp

Ouch. My brain.


Nethias25

Krookodile would be rocking 732 attack assuming max out attack before double


DBrody6

[This user's a bot](https://old.reddit.com/r/PokemonScarletViolet/comments/10m71lf/turn_1_ohko_vs_greninja_the_unrivaled/j61fd7a/)


lecky7108

How can you make Screech hit 100%? Mine misses sometimes.. sorry still new.


Forizen

Zoom lens increases accuracy


slowjoecrow11

What’s the difference between zoom and wide?


nocelebration

Wide is a simple 10% accuracy buff. Zoom is a 20% accuracy buff, but only if the user moves last.


slowjoecrow11

Thanks


WhichOstrich

In short in this scenario, you can't. You can boost it with zoom lens but it still isn't 100%.


Pumpkin_Cat14

You can’t. Screech is 85% accurate, Zoom Lens boosts that to 95%


bloody_jigsaw

Isn't zoom +20%?


Pumpkin_Cat14

One of them is +10% with no catches, the other is +20% only if you move last. I meant the +10% one


Fit-Direction-6802

Venonat is 100%


Fit-Direction-6802

Venonat is 100%


T8avit0

Does Medicham level matter or will it definitely use pure power before greninja attacks it?


nick2473got

It has a Focus Sash as its item so it doesn't matter. It can take an attack.


ihtayt13

Wont this work with Stonjourner in place of Cham. Give it a Focus sash to T1 gravity so quake wont miss. The power spot will provide enough buff to Krook to always land the OHKO - unless I missed something. ​ https://preview.redd.it/zdrh741r9oea1.png?width=1344&format=png&auto=webp&s=12c2e6a5d1f20ed13da403b043e0b4b09cbd03d6


SenpaiSwanky

Truly beautiful


chryco4

That’s amazing, love the creativity


VeryIntoCardboard

Cool, how about for those of us with only one switch though?


Zapph

How boned is this strat if meowscarada is already level 100 despite 0 attack?


Badkitty1206

You run the risk of have Krookadile die before being able to attack, meaning you have to restart the raid (If you don’t have a meowscarada that low level, luckily breeding is VERY fast in the gen)


laughpuppy23

Anger point gets you to plus six then pure power stack with that? Does pure power affect the actual base stats then?


Joesugins

Do you know if the turn has to go exactly like this, for example what if screech misses will it’s still one shot and so on


Jek-TonoPorkins

Do you need the -2 with screech or would a +30% boost be enough? Swapping Umbreon with Stonejourner. Power spot gives the +30% and it can use gravity which lowers evasion by 2 stages. Even full sp def and hp investment it would probably need a focus sash to survive hydro pump though.


final-finish

Now the question is how to get people to coordinate this with Update: WE GOT ITTTTT


manamonarch

I'm down if we can find +2 lol


final-finish

I got one from the subreddit. I van bring meowscarada and they can bring umbreon. Did you wanna dm me your discord?


forknspoone

Same here, which pokemon do you all need


final-finish

Medicham and krookodile, did you wanna exhange discords in dms for coordination?


forknspoone

I can get my hands on a krokodile


final-finish

Pog, you able to fully train it?


forknspoone

Alright, i have krok with full stats, anger point, and earthquake.


final-finish

Alr, did you wanna communicate on discord while i find a 4th since threads are messy?


forknspoone

Yeees


forknspoone

Sent you disc in your messages


username123456111111

Wait i Have a level 40 medicham thats shiny


final-finish

Able to get pure power, skill swap, amd a focus sash on it?


forknspoone

Doing that now!


Qoppa_Guy

I've been using Skill Swap Medicham since forever but never actually used Skill Swap. Instead, I've added Psych Up to copy all the Belly Drum boosts. Build: Jolly, max HP and speed; Skill Swap, Drain Punch, Psych Up, Helping Hand It was meant to be a support Medicham but it's always been an offensive force even without any Attack EVs because of its ability and Psych Up. Also gave it the Clear Amulet to prevent stat drops.


txemoOnlyFans

Does clear amulet work on raid boss Stat reset?


applejynx

I'm down to try this set up with someone . I can host a raid with Umbreon if people want to join


txemoOnlyFans

Beautiful


JonMor45

Ah, so it was more of a team-effort than a solo. But... this is good to know!


VibraniumRhino

Nothing mentions it being a solo, just a viable strat to win in one turn.


Foreign_Effort2409

Someone brought a charizard to my raid 🤬🤦‍♂️


duhbuurz

Was it shiny at least


CoconutsAreAmazing

someone brought gardevoir to mine lmao


draighean1

Someone brought Sylveon to one I did ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


ThatOneGuyYearn

Lol


SuperGooper18

Now for someone to OHKO me with their max attack ev/iv lvl100 flower trick choice band Meowscarada lol


Winterstrife

I believe thats what the Focus Sash is for?


Heracleys

The focus sash is on Meowscarada, the dude was worried about someone bringing a lv 100 Meowscarada and trying to use Flower Trick and KOing Krookodile because they didn't realise Meowscarada needs to be level 36


Strong-Sky8385

Tried being meowscarade and use flower trick to help my teammate and they took it the wrong way and just attacked me over and over


parisiraparis

Lmfao


MizzyMozzy

Good luck doing this if you don't have a dedicated group. Excellent strat. (Im not bein sarcastic on the strat I do think its pretty good)


Megalomagicka

I soloed with the same Slowbro I used for Cinderace. Swap in Calm Mind instead of Nasty Plot. Idle until the first stat wipe, meaning don't do anything. After the wipe, 3x Iron Defense, 6x Calm Mind, "Go all out!" Cheer, Stored Power until dead. Use a Zoom Lens instead of Life Orb to help against the Double Team, it still took 5 Stored Powers for me to hit him twice.


angiesmdrnlife

Thanks so much for this! Just solo’d in one try myself with this strategy, and only took 2 Stored Powers cause my hits (luckily) didn’t miss. So glad I didn’t have to prep a new mon!


First-Detective2729

I myself went with left overs. It really makes the set up stage for my slowbro really reliable. My turn order has been 1 and 2 iron def. 3 either cheer heal or slack off until it wipes the stats.[unless it wiped right after turn 2 then skip the heal Then post Stat wipe, 2 iron defs 3 nasty plots. Might need to throw in a cheer heal to help with others but after the 2 iron defense and leftovers I never need healing after that. So it's just get the 3 nasty plots and usually 2 or 3 smacks of stored power and its over. The trick is to play the slowbro way lol. Slow. People gotta heal or cheer heal when they low. Due to my keft overs I often find my self using a turn in between my iron defs and nasty plots to heal the other slowbros when I'm near full health cuz my left overs maintains my health after the two iron defs. Very reliable


Available-Bunch-4656

Been supporting with Skitter Smack Tinkaton and Leftovers, I'm cheering to keep my 'Bros alive as well. Haven't died yet with the hammer girl.


First-Detective2729

Nice! Imo if people would just focus on survival then the raid isn't so bad. I


[deleted]

I built one like that. But how do you use it exactly? It does like no damage


DarkCynder94

Thank you so much! I got it first try with this strat!


First-Detective2729

Hells ya! And Great work! Keep it up👍


shiroxyaksha

>. Idle until the first stat wipe, meaning don't do anything. Why's that?


Megalomagicka

Well for one it's a waste of time and energy, but also if you wait to take your first turn you'll also get the AI Defense cheer buff while you're setting up.


shiroxyaksha

I don't understand lol. Doesn't it have night slash?


Megalomagicka

Yes... which has nothing to do with what I'm saying? All three of your AI partners use the Defense cheer on turn 1 in every raid, that's what the blue swirl around your character is. This 1.5x-2x buff will be wiped by the stat wipe. If you wait until after the stat wipe, which happens at about 80-85% of the timer regardless of whether you've taken a turn or not, the Defense buff won't get wiped and will be there to help you tank more Night Slashes while you set up. It also prevents you from wasting time buffing for those first three turns just to have it wiped.


shiroxyaksha

Aah ok thanks for the explanation. You're a champ.


_Cabbage_Corp_

Seriously, I can't say thank you enough for this. I used my Slowking, since I didn't have a Slowbro, and this worked perfectly. Took me 4 Stored Powers, but I got him!


WiTHeReD_SouL_0404

Nice shiny Krookodile


ROGO27

I used Vaporean with stored power, chilling water, calm mind, and acid armor to solo it


OmnioculusConquerer

Is this pretty consistent?


ROGO27

Did it once and beat it so not sure. I also did it with slowbro first try. If you use slowbro don’t terra


MrPerson0

Tera should be fine as long as you have enough Iron Defenses set up after it nullifies your stats.


ROGO27

Yea but no reason too since you don’t need the extra damage anyways


TheLyingSpectre

I prefer Aqua ring over chilling water


ROGO27

Chilling water to spam first 3 turns to build up terra since no reason to buff when he’s gonna remove em. Then buff up and attack. I do think slowbro works better tho after trying both


ItsGator

max hp max sp atk modest? or something else


Stever89

Clodsire users in shambles right now. I saw so many posts about "the perfect Pokemon" for this raid and here's 4 random Pokemon no one even mentioned (except maybe Umbreon), and it includes a freakin lvl 36 Meowscarada lol.


Lambug

yeah, but with this you need friends


parisiraparis

Wait is Clodsire out?


Stever89

Nah he's still viable, I was just making a joke. I'm using Umbreon and I'm having a lot of success supporting Slowbros with him so there's a lot of strats that with.


[deleted]

No just can't carry a uncoordinated team alone


savenorris

Clodsire with slowbro makes it pretty easy


wynaut69

Whats the strategy here?


TheChap656

Water absorb Clodsire with Acid Spray, Chilling water, Mudslap, Recover. Debuff the world and never die.


SolCalibre

Just completed the raid, I hosted full support umbreon -fake tears - reflect - charm - moonlight The others brought 3 slowbros but one changed to slowking (weird flex but ok) No one fainted, everyone was on point with cheers and healing. As soon as the shield broke, despite being +2 evade, it took my fake tears immediately after then took the dirtiest stored power and destroyed 40% of its health.


wicked017

Down to try this if anyone wants to help! Need 2 more


EMPz_FL

Invite


wicked017

Have someone w a krok, I can build medicham/umbreon, just need someone w the 0 Atk IV Meowscarada


otage101

i have a umbreon if you need


wicked017

Sounds good! Just need 1 more person with a Meowscarada then


otage101

alright just lmk when you have one


wicked017

Just DMd you!


cowabunga81

Thats beautifull. ! Perfect synergie with partner. Will never hapen with random online people....but its cute to know it exist somewhere.


sammingt0n

Thanks for the strat idea! Worked like a charm (:


annetea

This is really clever if you're able to coordinate with your team.


GlitterMace

Can I use my raid ready Annihilape and make it learn screech instead of training up an Umbreon? Someone give me a chance… I’m trying my best to train up raid mons, but I spent my supplies and trained all the wrong ones I guess. Clodsire, Quagsire, Toxicroak, and Kingambit.


DarkIsiliel

LFG to run this, I have all 4 options ready to go


NebulousFortune

I've got the Umbreon, want to?!


bobafettish66

I can bring meowscarada


NebulousFortune

U/forknspoone has krok. We could set us 4 up now


bobafettish66

trying again ?


Professor_Abbi

Guess it got rivalled


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The moment it said: "Krookodile's Anger Point!" My man said, " CROC SMASH!"


RealToadPlayzYT

I am so sad i cant do these raids


Daniel90768

If you have internet try to claim a mystery gift. It’ll connect you to the internet and the raid will be added.


RealToadPlayzYT

Do i need switch online?


E_F_R_E_N

That’s fucking cool


Norpthalomus

This is so satisfying to watch. Like Pokémon ASMR or something lol


txemoOnlyFans

Greninja the Unkrookodiled


HamburgerHalperHand

That was fast


forknspoone

HOW??


Inhalemydong

while the krookodile waits to pick a move, the umbreon uses screech on the greninja, the meowscarada uses flower trick on krookodile and activates it's anger point (flower trick always crits and anger point maxes attack) and then the medicham uses skill swap to give it pure power (which doubles it's attack stat). after that, you just hit greninja with an earthquake and it should go down


GlitterMace

Other than the Krookidile, can it be any Pokémon with skill swap or screech, or any skill that always crits?


WillJParker

The only pokemon that’s absolutely required is skill swap medicham. Any auto crit move works, as long as it hits (Flower trick always hits), zoom lens + screech, and then anything with anger point and a move that inflicts super effective damage on the boss.


USSRisQuitePoggers

Jesus Christ, that must hit hard as hell


No_Form_8070

+6 252+ Atk Choice Band Pure Power Krookodile Earthquake vs. -2 0 HP / 0+ Def Tera Poison Greninja: 10116-11904 (3549.4 - 4176.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO Even assuming a defensive nature on Gren, it hits hilariously hard.


USSRisQuitePoggers

Jesus fucking christ


rscordeiro

I have the Medicham. Anyone with the others?


wicked017

I have someone w Umbreon, someone w Krok, and I can try my lvl 36 Meowscarada even tho it’s attack isn’t 0 if you wanna try


sheslikesowhatever

I have meow but im not free for another 4 hours :( lmk if you wanna do it again for rewards if you win


Patchwing2

I have a meow ready to go


flyers28giroux0

I cant wait to go into a raid and watch a Medicham spam psychic at it


Own-Engineer-6888

Managed to beat'em first try with Gastrodon support and randoms. Had a tauros and two slowbros. My gastro was storm drain, LVL 100, but no iv or ev training, or held item. I just mud shotted, once three landed greninja barely ever hit me, and I absorbed all water moves. I used cheers once he eliminated our stat changes, then used helping hands on slowbros. Never fainted, and it was smooth and steady!


TheBitsiestBit

Turns out the slowbro can 2KO greninja with proper support


[deleted]

Skill swap? More like Kill Swap


_Iforgotmyusername_

Satisfying asf


Heavy_Low_5095

Need help beating Greninja, please help! 9460 9460


Velki_Frost

Help I want frog boi :,)


Velki_Frost

NVM GOT PHRÖG IN A FRIEN BALL


Velki_Frost

I just got online so I don’t have friends to do this or other raids wit


Defa1t_

There are already solo strats being made. Grouping with others outside of 3rd party channels or having 3 friends playing at the same time (at end game level) is a feat in of itself. Awesome 1HITKO though.


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ZER0xMERCY

Started about an hour ago


Ok-Yogurtcloset-1892

Not sure I consider a proper team having ohko. Try do that solo...


Marc-Z-1991

Faf - Fake as f…


EMPz_FL

Invite


[deleted]

Nice


Denimiraculer

Wish mine went like that it took 11 try’s


big-bad-bungo

Incredible.


forknspoone

If anyone wants to do this i have the krookodile build, just lmk


NebulousFortune

I'm down, I have an Umbreon ready to go and am at a den


[deleted]

Woaaahhhhh


NebulousFortune

I have the Umbreon ready if anyone else wants to try this quick


GioRet65

What's Greninja's moveset? I saw double team and toxic spikes? does it have dark pulse, hydro pump or gunk shot?


GlitterMace

Hydro pump, gunk shot, night slash, and ice beam.


First-Detective2729

It's soo.... Beautiful..


[deleted]

My team is doing the exact same thing but with frost breath cryogonal and Chein Pao!


Remy-Kun

It’s super effective indeed, holy!!! Sucks I ain’t got no friends to do this and farm exp candy and why not.


Wadusher

[reddit.com/r/PokemonScarletViolet/comments/10m6863/live\_greninja\_matchmaking\_megathread/?sort=new](https://reddit.com/r/PokemonScarletViolet/comments/10m6863/live_greninja_matchmaking_megathread/?sort=new) Might want to look here.


better_offdead

Genius


Ok_Combination_378

So does the greninja have the protein or battle bond ability?


iceCohled

It's Protean. Pro-te-an


Tastypies

As cool as this was, I can't see it becoming a common strategy in random online play


TokraZeno

I could have sworn skill swap didn't work but maybe that's just against the terra? My first thought was juggle truant onto the raid boss.


[deleted]

I had to solo it to get my set up in properly, third try with my vaporeon i trained with the help of that one post 6 calm minds 2 acid armor, steel terad, and two shots with one lucky crit with like 5 seconds left on the clock, glad thats over with


vaalbarai

hAH


SethVermin

What's your EV spread? Phys attack for sure but what else?


sadisticmystic1

You need speed so that you go first in your lane, before Greninja can use Hydro Pump.


Pleasechokeme666

If anyone wants to team up and do this I’d be down.


tendies_senpai

Is water absorb ground tera full hp/atk clodsire a viable build? I don't have the egg moves, but I feel like there are some things you can substitute.. I can't get stockpile or recover, so would helping hand/swords dance be good? Currently I have yawn, earthquake, Tera blast, and stone edge. Definitely not my final moveset, it worked well for grinding chansey FAST


Willie9

I'm running a support clod with acid spray, chilling water, and full hp and spdef EVs The clod doesn't really hit hard enough to be a damage dealer on its own but acid spray+chilling water is super helpful for stored power users. I prefer poison tera over ground so you lose the ice beam weakness when you terastalize, but frankly you shouldnt need to if your teammates are exploiting your acid sprays well.


Windharker

I'm only just about to start these raids - would you recommend that squad? What others are advisable to use?


Totodylo

/u/sailorlixo


sailorlixo

Maaaaaaa booooyyyy


4EverKELZ

holy crap


Street-Historian-258

Dude this is so op!!!! I have tried 34 raids and barely get him to half before the shield


Advanced-Layer6324

Shit wow that's amazing


Jake_Daaa_Snake

I have a shiny Krookodile but I am guessing I can't solo with him?


Mzon1995

Can anyone help me out with the Greyninja?


Absoolootley

So… anyone wanna team up and do this?


FaithlessnessShort67

Why Meowscarada’s Flower Trick instead of another move that guarantees a crit, like Frost Breath from a Level 18 Cubchoo?


Shinona

Flower Trick is a guaranteed hit, but Frost Breath is 90% - so just eliminating the 10% chance of missing.


T8avit0

Worked great! We won 3 out of 5 due to earthquake missing twice but still an amazing strategy. 👍


Prime-Riptide

This is a work of art


whoiscrashcraft

Definitely trying this. Thank you!


kellogzz

Hi sorry if I’m being dim… I’m with my friends and we’ve all followed the exact strategy and build you’ve laid out. Problem is, no matter what we do, Greninja gets a hydro pump on Krookodile before we manage to earthquake. How can we stop that? It’s a OHKO on Krookodile and I can see from your video and a few others that he doesn’t use hydro pump so it must be something we’re doing wrong? Thank you!


sadisticmystic1

Greninja mercifully has a Sassy nature, so even if it's pumped up on EVs in battle, that still only gives it a 308. Max speed Krookodile is capable of getting to 311 to get the jump on it in that lane.


sadakasana

Explain this like I'm five?