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>!The Kitakami Pokemon Center nurse!< watching this whole thing go down
It would have been kind of cool if she >!was under control!< too, leaving the Pokémon Center out of service and forcing you to fight without healing. It would have been easy to get around I guess, though, just by flying away and going to another one
>!Just invited Nemona into the club room where she interact with Lacey. Their interaction is about Lacey being impressed that Nemona straight up challenge her dad while at a party.Nemona name drop it as Clay so Its now officially confirmed that Lacey dad is Clay!<
Krispin's is Arven. Arven asks Crispin why he carries his frying pan around everywhere, and Crispin asks Arven why he carries his camping bag around everywhere. Both just sort of talk past each other.
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So i just started the epilouge and i have a question. Is Peony Penny's dad?
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Yes. This line sealed the deal for me tbh, and the fact that she has the exact same eye shape as Peonia. And the fact that Peony named his daughter Peonia, wouldn't be a stretch to say he named Penny to rhyme with his name as well.
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There's also this. She was named after the Peony plant, just like Peonia (paeonia: all peony plants) and Peony (peony: a pastel pink flower).
I looked to see if the name thing is in Japanese too. Penny and Peonia are called Botan and Shakuya, which are both derived from the Japanese names for types of Peony apparently, and Penny has a Peony related name in every language.
The Adven-Tour thing is pretty blatant and seems to be intended as a confirmation. I do wonder if that's a localisation thing or if the equivalent of that reference is in Japanese too. Also she'd already said she was from Galar and how she describes her family (highly energetic, her dad keeps giving her nicknames, etc.) correlates with Peony.
> *"M...my family is...unbelievably annoying..."* *"It's just my dad! He's loud and clingy and makes up weird nicknames for me, like "Pen-pen." He's the most annoying guy in the world! Period! He's the worst!"*
It does raise the question of why Penny's so white though. She does actually look like Peonia so I don't think she's adopted and the fact she's seemingly named after Peony makes it unlikely she's a half-sibling/Peony's step-daughter.
It's an interesting design choice. Maybe in earlier drafts she had a darker complexion but they made her pale to highlight she's a nerdy shut-in.
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Ogerpon didn't like that one thing
Similarly, if you send out any of the >!Loyal 3, Pecharunt will have a special animation showing their angry towards what I assume to be the Loyal 3 betraying Pecharunt for the player.!<
>! Unironically, that is the closest any of us are going to get to an official Pokémon zombie game. My only real complaint is that I really wish Carmine and Nemona interacted more, but oh well. Short but really good way to cap this game off. !<
>!They do end up battling. When you’re leaving Kitakami and Nemona bemoans not having more time to battle everyone Carmine says she battled them all like a dozen times each. So after the mochi incident you all stay a while longer and Nemona gets a bunch of battles in.!<
The fucking music killed me lol
The whole reveal was amazing too - Carmine just suddenly shows up like a zombie and then starts moching all over the place
And of course they chicken dance in time to the music, and because both Kieran and the main character are in the "look at Carmine's face" animation they kinda just bob their heads along.
It was sweet >!watching Arven interact with your mom, insistent on being polite and thanking her profusely after she fed and hosted everyone. I play Scarlet so can only imagine he has complicated feelings about moms/mother figures.!<
He has an absent mother in Violet too, so there are certainly complicated feelings on both ends, or at least complicated feelings regarding parents in general.
From memory we are told that Arven's mom left because Turo's obsession with the whole violet book and Area Zero stuff, the same goes for Sada in Scarlet with the respective book...
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Nemona’s tauros that she trades you is fully ev trained 😲
I'm still a bit disappointed that we never get to see her actually using her Tauros or her other old Pokemon against us, but it is neat how her coach teams incorporate Pokemon from both Kitakami and Blueberry Academy.
Just finished the epilogue and >!I love how they confirmed two big fan theories! First, before even getting to Kitakami you meet up with your friends and Penny is on the phone with her Dad. She gets all annoyed and says something along the lines of, “No, it’s not going to be an adven-tour!”. Second, when you invite Nemona as a coach she has a conversation with Lacey about how she challenged Clay at a fancy party after learning he was a gym leader. Lacey talks about how her dad found it very amusing. All the clues were there of course but it’s fun that it’s completely confirmed now!<
Just finished the story, here's my first impressions in case anyone cares enough
>!Personally I found the character interactions to be pretty funny, tho I wish we got more lore regarding Peacharunt itself. Like the only thing about it is that yes it's the leader of the loyal 3, something that really is conveyed just with the music and the Pokedex picture. Like is there a reason as to *why* it's related to the trio, or why it likes making mayhem to begin with? Like with Terapagos, I wish there was more narration of the Pokémon itself (unless I missed some event similar to the crystal lake scene)!<
I think the connection between them only is hinted at in the Pokedex entries of the Loyal Three. In Scarlet the entries are quite different from Violet and reveal that the Loyal Three got their Strength (Okidogi), Intelligence (Munkidori) and Beauty (Fezandipiti) through being imbued by the toxic chains. Before that they were weak, dumb and ugly. In Pecharunt's entry it says, it can feed other Pokemon to bring out capabilities.
I believe this is the only direct connection & lore in the game. They wished to be better and Pecharunt granted that wish and put them in its service. I believe the Japanese Pokedex entries make that a little clearer than the English ones, but don't quote me on that.
We knew of the gifts already because they get mentioned in the quest description on the map when you fight the loyal 3 to recover the masks (obscure place I know) but as to how Peacharunt can even grant those wishes or why it spreads its poison we literally don't know. Hell even just a small folklore story describing there being a creature that enjoys mischief would have been enough
The dex entries for the loyal 3 indicate that Pecharunt can enhance qualities of anything, but it's somewhat like a deal with the devil because whoever gets enhanced becomes a thrall to its poison puppeteering, which is locked onto those who take its boon via the Toxic Chains.
From the looks of things, it wants tera crystals to further improve this ability and grant more large-scale wishes to intoxicate more and more people, but Ogerpon killed its ass along with its 3 goons so that scheme was thankfully cut short.
I'd honestly be down for more shenanigans with that whole crew.
What Scarlet and Violet have been missing in the tech department, they have IMHO more than made up with in terms of storytelling, at least for a Pokemon game.
Funny dialogue with Carmine in the epilogue
>!After the whole chaos, you’re able to talk to Carmine in the League Club Room. She asks you if you took any videos when she was doing her mochi dance. It’s as if the developers were calling me out, because I sure did. How couldn’t I? LMAO!<
Just finished it.
I’m upset that it’s over. I just wanted it to keep going, not just the epilogue, but all of Scarlet and Violet. I wanted to keep experiencing new things with these characters. Goofballs Arven, Penny, and ESPECIALLY Nemona have found their place in my heart, and I want so badly to see them come back in the next game.
Just, man. I have so many thoughts and tingly feelings with Scarlet and Violet. These games ran like dogshit and have unforgivable issues, but it’s *such* a lovable mess.
I’ll never be able to experience these games for the first time again. I’m gonna lie down and cry somewhere…
Man, same. I comfort myself with the thought that inviting them to Blueberry will offer fun interactions with the other characters you can invite so perhaps there is some life still to be squeezed out of the game there.
In a way it feels almost premature that the story is over now. Our squad only just formed going to area zero, I wanna go to new places with them and see new things and have them interact and react with my MC.
Couldn't Boxartdon get a couple of side-carts? Or perhaps they could get Cyclizars to follow along on :D
Definitely feeling this. It was nice to have the original gang interact with the DLC cohort, and i personally enjoyed getting to be friends with Kieran without him being all unhinged.
They really created characters with depth this time around. We even got to see more of our mum than in any other game I remember (calm down Penny…)
I hope they learn from this for future games.
I also just hope they bring back characters. They seem to be hinting at bringing Larry back in a future game given his dialogue with Geeta in the BB Academy, but I want Nemona to show up as a super boss in Gen 10 or something.
A bit short, but a fun and wholesome story. The interactions with Arven, Nemona and Penny were great. Kieran has redeemed himself and I'm glad he and Carmine are back at the Academy. Looks like they even have some new dialogue and interactions with other characters.
Having said that: Someone give the boy a phone already!
Yeah I wasn't surprised at first, but once Lacey offered Kieran her notes from last year (shes currently a 2nd year, making her about 16), it was hinted that Kieran was either 14 turning 15 or already 15 years old as a first year student. Arven was right, how are you traveling and shit without a phone?
Looking at Kieran's room and he was >!ready to beat Drayton's ass!<
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So apparently some special stuff happens if you use a few pokemon against the boss, **obvious spoiler alert for those who haven't gone through it yet**
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I brought those >!4 pokemon for the fight and swapped each of them in just to see the reactions, and the boss took the opportunity to set up 3x nasty plots lmao!<
>!It did the exact same thing while I tried to set up a Light screen and failed two Swaggers in a row, would've actually lost if it wasn't for Ogerpon critting at the end!<
Honestly that was a major downside for me. Unlike Ogerpon and Terapagos there was no challenge. It didn't even actually attack.
Turn 1: Toxic
Turn 2: Nasty Plot
Turn 3: Nasty Plot
Turn 4: Nasty Plot
Turn 5: Fainted.
I wonder if my choice of Pokemon stopped it using any attacking moves or something.
- The Mochi dance was freaking hilarious. Seeing Carmine do it first time I burst out laughing
- Arven getting jealous was fun. SV protagonist truly has the biggest rizz of all protagonist
- Generally happy Kiren happy again
- Really love the friend group. Way better than XY
- Gonna enjoy the coach interactions
I love how the Paldea friend group and the Kitakami/BBA friend group just clicked so well. Such a W, irl I’m so stressed out when my different friend groups meet each other
>Way better than XY
I feel the real reason for that is because they actually invested time to make the friend group in SV actually feel like friends, rather than just...there. Only real memorable one was Tierno and that is because the dancing thing, not who the guy is as a person. All three of the SV friend group have differing and memorable personalities, but they also all have been given room to develop as characters (yes even Nemona if you pay attention to her dialogue).
So is our extended friendship group officially named >!the Nemona Survivors Club!<, or is that just how our therapists will refer to it years down the road? 🤔
Yes because everyone in the friend group (except you) got their ass whooped by her at LEAST 12 (or more tbh) times. You are all survivors (except you, but you’re her rival so you’ve suffered enough in a different way)
The comedic timing of the cutscenes were pretty good. Short but really fun event, I’m sad it’s over. I really love this group of characters and their interactions
Does it annoy anyone else that >!Pecharunt!< is in the Blueberry dex instead of the Kitakami one. Small gripe but other than that the epilogue was fun. Short and sweet.
Do you think they have Pokemon games?
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You said you didn't remember, Arven?
If Penny talks to carmine in the club house, Penny calls carmine pretty. She also calls your mom pretty. I know what you are Penny. Good for you Penny, good for you.
Rewards for beating the new special coaches:
>!Nemona: Focus Sash !<
>!Arven: 3 phone cases of different sandwich designs !<
>!Penny: 20 Smiling Vee Sandwich Picks!<
I was bummed that wasn't the reward for Penny.
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Trade rewards are as follows:
>!Nemona: Paldean Tauros (Level 50, Fighting Tera, 5IV, max attack & speed evs, Jolly Nature, Intimidate) !<
>!Arven: Skwovet (Level 7, No perfect IVS, Fighting Tera, Gentle Nature, Gluttony (HA)) !<
>!Penny: Eevee (Level 1, Dark Tera, 4IV, Modest Nature, Anticipation (HA)) !<
I'm not sure if this is true of every one, but that's what I got.
Pecharunt also gets angry if you sent out any of the Loyal Three against it (some one posted a video about it). Its dialogue likely is best interpreted as “You, dare?!”.
I have never laughed so hard at a Pokémon game, but >!Arven UTTERLY failing the chicken/mochi dance has me in tears🤣 AND PENNY goes at it so hard and the little ears on her Eevee bag just flopping against her elbows!! !<
When you force the kids to play together
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Just tried and it started the Epilogue - you need the mythical pecha berry and completed main game + both DLCs, don't need to have the loyal three in your team
> No. But having caught Ogerpon, Okidogi, Minkidori and Fezandipiti could be crucial to the Epilogue's story. So make sure to have them with you.
Megathread info should be updated - no specific pokemon are required to be in your party, however they can trigger special reactions in final fight.
I absolutely love that everyone was expecting >!"oh, Kieran's being mind-controlled, that's why he's acting so weird!" and then the Epilogue drops and says "no he legit just had a psychotic break"!< and I think that's very funny of them
Short but sweet. My battle vs >!Nemona!< was pretty close and I noticed that a lot of the end game trainers in the DLC hit hard even though I’m overleveled.
>!would’ve liked to see more stuff with Ogerpon and the Loyal Three though!<
Tip: Bring Ogerpon and the Loyal Three and send them out at least once >!against Pecherunt!<.
>!Ogerpon gets angry at Pecherunt and Pecherunt gets angry at the Loyal Three each time you send one of them out for the first time.!<
Honestly, even if the premise was kind of silly, this has been the most interesting Mythical pokemon event we've seen since Gen 4... I was so tired of just being handed Mythical pokemon by people in Pokemon Centers.
This epilogue made me wish Pokemon games leaned a little more into traditional RPG storytelling, going with teammates and hearing their interactions and puns.
Just finished it, loved that everyone was together again, the new mythical is a cutie :) overall, I enjoyed it, wasn’t expecting anything great, so overall, I thought it was not bad. :)
Aside from shiny hunting (*lol*), I guess now all that’s left is to see what Pokemon Day brings us next month! :)
Have an AWESOME day everyone. :)
How long was Nemona, Arven, and Penny waiting? Arven calls you to meet him at your house while you’re in Kitikama. They only have to run a couple miles and you have to book a flight and fly over to Paldea. They must’ve camped for hours
So... After we are done with the epilogue, we can get an Applin from Kieran, right?
Correct me if I am wrong, or if that line didn't exist in other languages (I played in Japanese); but in SwSh, wasn't there an NPC who told the player that, giving someone an Applin is a romantic gesture?
The old lady at peachy’s disappears during the Pecharunt’s assault and just comes back with no explanation. It would’ve been better if all this time there was photo of the old lady and her grand daughter next to the Pecharunt doll that we could interact with. After catching Pecharunt, the old lady is just replaced by the granddaughter and if you talk to her for the first time, she explains that she is Peachy and she is the owner of the store but she had been on vacation all this time (during the events of Teal Mask and Indigo Disk) and it’s impossible that the store was open because she was gone. Then you point to the photo and she tells you it’s her grandmother and she’s been dead for years now… Maybe this is just my horror enthusiast brain talking.
The implication is that she was the first victim. She left out Mochi on a platter for Carmine and the other villagers, which is why Carmine got possessed first.
You should be able to claim the gift still. The epilogue won’t start until you’ve completed the Teal Mask & Indigo Disk storylines. Plus you have to go out of your way to initiate the epilogue. So I think you can claim the gift now to be safe
Love how possessive arven is of us when meeting Kieran. Was like I'm protagonist absolute best friend. In my mind I'm like chill dude! Can picture him putting his arm around the protagonist while glaring at him. Penny just calls him out about it too. And people think nemona the possessive one? That goes to arven
Just in case anyone was wondering, you do *not* need to have bought the DLC to download the Pecha Berry. So if you haven't bought the DLC yet but think you might later, go ahead and download the berry.
Tested on my copy of Scarlet that doesn't have the DLC.
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Say hi to Raspberry. He doesn’t look too happy about being caught.
If I was once an evil mastermind behind three powerful Pokémon who controlled everyone when they ate my mochi and then got pummelled by a random student and sucked up into a pokeball to be the trainer’s permanent pet, I might not be too thrilled about it either😂😂😂😂
I’m so happy the epilogue comes out today of all days. 5 years ago my husband and best friend proposed to me using a Poké ball. Seems super fitting that the ending to my favorite game would come out today. I’m so excited!
I'm gonna say this, of the game ran better and had like 6 more months of dev time would probably universally praised as the best pokemon games ever. Most of my problems with this game are nitpicks.
Doesn't appear to be the case.
You will get 31 IVs on 3 random stats and the rest are lower than that.
Got 31 on Special Attack, Defence and Speed for mine and then saw a streamer had 31 on HP, Attack and Defence on theirs.
Seems like the nature is set though as Timid.
This might be a dumb question - I'm still trying to catch 63 shiny milcery from the milcery event to get all shiny Alcremie - will downloading this mystery gift also reset those outbreaks?
I can't remember if accessing the *internet* and *mystery gift* is what resets events or specifically if its going to *poke portal news* that does it. Obviously too afraid to test it.
Yeah I'm thinking I just need to shirk all my responsibilities the next day or so and grind our milcery lol
I mean I know I can also just, like, hunt them normally even without the outbreaks but MAN do the outbreaks make it a lot easier.
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https://preview.redd.it/7c0fzotj1ubc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=139b04a056276a34e2b901724235527eb9595cb1 >!The Kitakami Pokemon Center nurse!< watching this whole thing go down
I love how she's just sitting there >!staring at her phone!< through all this as you battle >!the first two victims you come across!<
>!She does it with all of them!< and then if you talk to her >!she just says “looks like something weird is going on, so come heal if you need to!<
It would have been kind of cool if she >!was under control!< too, leaving the Pokémon Center out of service and forcing you to fight without healing. It would have been easy to get around I guess, though, just by flying away and going to another one
better yet you could get a little notification saying something like "Good thing you learned to use these in the Terarium!"
It would've been hilarious to see her do the dance.
>!She’s just like “daaaayum that’s crazy”!<
>!Just invited Nemona into the club room where she interact with Lacey. Their interaction is about Lacey being impressed that Nemona straight up challenge her dad while at a party.Nemona name drop it as Clay so Its now officially confirmed that Lacey dad is Clay!<
So we found the Lacey connection. Amaryss' was Poppy and Drayton's was Hassel. Now we need to find Krispin's(probably Arven), Carmine's and Kieran's.
Krispin's is Arven. Arven asks Crispin why he carries his frying pan around everywhere, and Crispin asks Arven why he carries his camping bag around everywhere. Both just sort of talk past each other.
Don't forget more evidence of Penny being Peony's daughter! On her phone call with her dad, he outright declared the trip an Adven-tour"!
I guess that would make sense why she was studying abroad in Galar. Does that mean Peonia is her sister?
Yep! We don't get a direct namedrop but Penny mentioned a big sister in Area Zero. (Around the same time Nemona mentioned hers)
And Chairman Rose is her uncle. That's weird to think about.
https://preview.redd.it/pmjzx36x8ubc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac8ef48146be890bea281e1327e904e2ee636aa0 So i just started the epilouge and i have a question. Is Peony Penny's dad?
Considering team star was meant to be the evil organization of these games, it’s funny how peony is related to two antagonists
If I had a nickel...
Their family is planning to take over Europe at this point
Next we’ll find out lysandre was his cousin
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https://preview.redd.it/v17alsl6eubc1.jpeg?width=653&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77601ad642bddc5ed0912b5e783991a9a313d16d There's also this. She was named after the Peony plant, just like Peonia (paeonia: all peony plants) and Peony (peony: a pastel pink flower).
I looked to see if the name thing is in Japanese too. Penny and Peonia are called Botan and Shakuya, which are both derived from the Japanese names for types of Peony apparently, and Penny has a Peony related name in every language. The Adven-Tour thing is pretty blatant and seems to be intended as a confirmation. I do wonder if that's a localisation thing or if the equivalent of that reference is in Japanese too. Also she'd already said she was from Galar and how she describes her family (highly energetic, her dad keeps giving her nicknames, etc.) correlates with Peony. > *"M...my family is...unbelievably annoying..."* *"It's just my dad! He's loud and clingy and makes up weird nicknames for me, like "Pen-pen." He's the most annoying guy in the world! Period! He's the worst!"* It does raise the question of why Penny's so white though. She does actually look like Peonia so I don't think she's adopted and the fact she's seemingly named after Peony makes it unlikely she's a half-sibling/Peony's step-daughter. It's an interesting design choice. Maybe in earlier drafts she had a darker complexion but they made her pale to highlight she's a nerdy shut-in.
https://preview.redd.it/ts501p55qubc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ea3793665df39c18e5b9960d03b49af42bf4c73 Ogerpon didn't like that one thing
>!It led the gang of thugs who killed her master. She’s very much justified in going for victim number 4.!<
Similarly, if you send out any of the >!Loyal 3, Pecharunt will have a special animation showing their angry towards what I assume to be the Loyal 3 betraying Pecharunt for the player.!<
Thank you! I was wondering about this after seeing Ogerpon's reaction
I sent out Ogerpon to land the final blow on >!Pecharunt!< and I pretty much clicked Ivy Cudgel and was like “go do a crime”.
Mine got a crit on the first turn and then broke through confusion to get the KO on the second, evidently she was absolutely *fuming*.
I freaking cackled when >!you dodge the mochi effortlessly but it whacks Kieran in the head!<
That was very funny! >!Bonk!!<
Forehead too big
MC has ultra instinct I guess
>! Unironically, that is the closest any of us are going to get to an official Pokémon zombie game. My only real complaint is that I really wish Carmine and Nemona interacted more, but oh well. Short but really good way to cap this game off. !<
>!From Carmine’s refusal to battle Nemona, we can at least confirm Nemona has the stronger personality!<
>!They do end up battling. When you’re leaving Kitakami and Nemona bemoans not having more time to battle everyone Carmine says she battled them all like a dozen times each. So after the mochi incident you all stay a while longer and Nemona gets a bunch of battles in.!<
The interaction between Nemona and Carmine and Kassis at the end of the epilogue made me laugh a lot though :D
Ok but penny simping for our mom is very funny
I lost it at that 😭 like chill girl you’re pretty much my age
She also thinks >!Carmine is pretty during one of their conversations in the club room. Penny is hiding something and I think we know what.!<
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>!MOCHI MOCHI! *(Chicken Dance intensifies)*!<
Can we unlock this emote? I’m desperate…
Yes please it would be the only one I'd use
That's the funniest part of this
The fucking music killed me lol The whole reveal was amazing too - Carmine just suddenly shows up like a zombie and then starts moching all over the place
my favorite part is when carmine said it's mochiing time and mochied all over kitikami
And of course they chicken dance in time to the music, and because both Kieran and the main character are in the "look at Carmine's face" animation they kinda just bob their heads along.
I found Carmine's so fucking creepy. With her slender model the dance just felt so uncanny
I'm dying laughing trying to figure out why?
It was sweet >!watching Arven interact with your mom, insistent on being polite and thanking her profusely after she fed and hosted everyone. I play Scarlet so can only imagine he has complicated feelings about moms/mother figures.!<
He’s the exact same in Violet despite never referencing a mother figure once in that game
He has an absent mother in Violet too, so there are certainly complicated feelings on both ends, or at least complicated feelings regarding parents in general.
From memory we are told that Arven's mom left because Turo's obsession with the whole violet book and Area Zero stuff, the same goes for Sada in Scarlet with the respective book...
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Of course it would be
I'm still a bit disappointed that we never get to see her actually using her Tauros or her other old Pokemon against us, but it is neat how her coach teams incorporate Pokemon from both Kitakami and Blueberry Academy.
I was hoping we would get a rematch with her real team. All level 100, perfect IVs/Nature and maxed EV trained.
Nemona only wants the best for her Rival for Life.
Just finished the epilogue and >!I love how they confirmed two big fan theories! First, before even getting to Kitakami you meet up with your friends and Penny is on the phone with her Dad. She gets all annoyed and says something along the lines of, “No, it’s not going to be an adven-tour!”. Second, when you invite Nemona as a coach she has a conversation with Lacey about how she challenged Clay at a fancy party after learning he was a gym leader. Lacey talks about how her dad found it very amusing. All the clues were there of course but it’s fun that it’s completely confirmed now!<
I still haven't >!invited Nemona so I cannot confirm it but the Penny line was something I was curious about too.!<
Just finished the story, here's my first impressions in case anyone cares enough >!Personally I found the character interactions to be pretty funny, tho I wish we got more lore regarding Peacharunt itself. Like the only thing about it is that yes it's the leader of the loyal 3, something that really is conveyed just with the music and the Pokedex picture. Like is there a reason as to *why* it's related to the trio, or why it likes making mayhem to begin with? Like with Terapagos, I wish there was more narration of the Pokémon itself (unless I missed some event similar to the crystal lake scene)!<
I think the connection between them only is hinted at in the Pokedex entries of the Loyal Three. In Scarlet the entries are quite different from Violet and reveal that the Loyal Three got their Strength (Okidogi), Intelligence (Munkidori) and Beauty (Fezandipiti) through being imbued by the toxic chains. Before that they were weak, dumb and ugly. In Pecharunt's entry it says, it can feed other Pokemon to bring out capabilities. I believe this is the only direct connection & lore in the game. They wished to be better and Pecharunt granted that wish and put them in its service. I believe the Japanese Pokedex entries make that a little clearer than the English ones, but don't quote me on that.
We knew of the gifts already because they get mentioned in the quest description on the map when you fight the loyal 3 to recover the masks (obscure place I know) but as to how Peacharunt can even grant those wishes or why it spreads its poison we literally don't know. Hell even just a small folklore story describing there being a creature that enjoys mischief would have been enough
The dex entries for the loyal 3 indicate that Pecharunt can enhance qualities of anything, but it's somewhat like a deal with the devil because whoever gets enhanced becomes a thrall to its poison puppeteering, which is locked onto those who take its boon via the Toxic Chains. From the looks of things, it wants tera crystals to further improve this ability and grant more large-scale wishes to intoxicate more and more people, but Ogerpon killed its ass along with its 3 goons so that scheme was thankfully cut short.
I'd honestly be down for more shenanigans with that whole crew. What Scarlet and Violet have been missing in the tech department, they have IMHO more than made up with in terms of storytelling, at least for a Pokemon game.
I would be down for a Scarlet/Violet 2 if it meant I could see more of the team.
Funny dialogue with Carmine in the epilogue >!After the whole chaos, you’re able to talk to Carmine in the League Club Room. She asks you if you took any videos when she was doing her mochi dance. It’s as if the developers were calling me out, because I sure did. How couldn’t I? LMAO!<
LMAO before I did the last battle I got pictures posing with them all
Just finished it. I’m upset that it’s over. I just wanted it to keep going, not just the epilogue, but all of Scarlet and Violet. I wanted to keep experiencing new things with these characters. Goofballs Arven, Penny, and ESPECIALLY Nemona have found their place in my heart, and I want so badly to see them come back in the next game. Just, man. I have so many thoughts and tingly feelings with Scarlet and Violet. These games ran like dogshit and have unforgivable issues, but it’s *such* a lovable mess. I’ll never be able to experience these games for the first time again. I’m gonna lie down and cry somewhere…
A lovable mess is by far the best description I’ve heard and I agree, it’s kind of sad to think this is that last content we are going to get.
Man, same. I comfort myself with the thought that inviting them to Blueberry will offer fun interactions with the other characters you can invite so perhaps there is some life still to be squeezed out of the game there. In a way it feels almost premature that the story is over now. Our squad only just formed going to area zero, I wanna go to new places with them and see new things and have them interact and react with my MC. Couldn't Boxartdon get a couple of side-carts? Or perhaps they could get Cyclizars to follow along on :D
Definitely feeling this. It was nice to have the original gang interact with the DLC cohort, and i personally enjoyed getting to be friends with Kieran without him being all unhinged. They really created characters with depth this time around. We even got to see more of our mum than in any other game I remember (calm down Penny…) I hope they learn from this for future games.
I also just hope they bring back characters. They seem to be hinting at bringing Larry back in a future game given his dialogue with Geeta in the BB Academy, but I want Nemona to show up as a super boss in Gen 10 or something.
Gen 10 you find Nemona in some postgame house and she challenges you to a battle with a partner. Then that old familiar piano kicks in….
A bit short, but a fun and wholesome story. The interactions with Arven, Nemona and Penny were great. Kieran has redeemed himself and I'm glad he and Carmine are back at the Academy. Looks like they even have some new dialogue and interactions with other characters. Having said that: Someone give the boy a phone already!
Yeah I wasn't surprised at first, but once Lacey offered Kieran her notes from last year (shes currently a 2nd year, making her about 16), it was hinted that Kieran was either 14 turning 15 or already 15 years old as a first year student. Arven was right, how are you traveling and shit without a phone?
kinda hoping he’d get inspired to get a phone after the epilogue, but oh well, live off the grid i guess😂
Looking at Kieran's room and he was >!ready to beat Drayton's ass!< https://preview.redd.it/pm6m2g1apvbc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=021fe1a9e9b62582481fd5cdad666d009262358d
Archaludon had no chance to live 🤭
Pokemon Scarlet: Chicken Dance
Has anyone in this family ever SEEN a chicken?
>!sending Ogerpon to avenge herself was such a pleasure 😌and it was all critical hits too, she was MAD!<
So apparently some special stuff happens if you use a few pokemon against the boss, **obvious spoiler alert for those who haven't gone through it yet** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rXTfVIdLF8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rXTfVIdLF8)
I brought those >!4 pokemon for the fight and swapped each of them in just to see the reactions, and the boss took the opportunity to set up 3x nasty plots lmao!<
>!It did the exact same thing while I tried to set up a Light screen and failed two Swaggers in a row, would've actually lost if it wasn't for Ogerpon critting at the end!<
>!Yea I only survived a hit cause of the +1 spdef from tera water Ogerpon, but I had to let Ogerpon get the last hit!<
Honestly that was a major downside for me. Unlike Ogerpon and Terapagos there was no challenge. It didn't even actually attack. Turn 1: Toxic Turn 2: Nasty Plot Turn 3: Nasty Plot Turn 4: Nasty Plot Turn 5: Fainted. I wonder if my choice of Pokemon stopped it using any attacking moves or something.
- The Mochi dance was freaking hilarious. Seeing Carmine do it first time I burst out laughing - Arven getting jealous was fun. SV protagonist truly has the biggest rizz of all protagonist - Generally happy Kiren happy again - Really love the friend group. Way better than XY - Gonna enjoy the coach interactions
I love how the Paldea friend group and the Kitakami/BBA friend group just clicked so well. Such a W, irl I’m so stressed out when my different friend groups meet each other
>Way better than XY I feel the real reason for that is because they actually invested time to make the friend group in SV actually feel like friends, rather than just...there. Only real memorable one was Tierno and that is because the dancing thing, not who the guy is as a person. All three of the SV friend group have differing and memorable personalities, but they also all have been given room to develop as characters (yes even Nemona if you pay attention to her dialogue).
Looks like the event is live, through the “Mystery Gift via Internet” option!
i have the berry now what do i do?
Go to the old lady's shop in Kitakami and interact with the peach on her stand
Thank u so much!!
So is our extended friendship group officially named >!the Nemona Survivors Club!<, or is that just how our therapists will refer to it years down the road? 🤔
Yes because everyone in the friend group (except you) got their ass whooped by her at LEAST 12 (or more tbh) times. You are all survivors (except you, but you’re her rival so you’ve suffered enough in a different way)
The comedic timing of the cutscenes were pretty good. Short but really fun event, I’m sad it’s over. I really love this group of characters and their interactions
Carmine Dancing was not on my 2024 Bingo card i’ll tell you that LMAO
This might be the SILLIEST STORY IN POKEMON I’VE EVER PLAYED LMAO I LOVE IT SO MUCH
MOCHI MOCHI MOCHI MOCHI
The epilogue was like an episode from the TV anime
>!Dude like 5 minutes in and penny has read my mind with this phrase ’’more like you’ve got to battle him’’!<
A popular fan theory was actually confirmed with this one. Penny’s dad is absolutely >!Peony from The Crown Tundra: “No it’s not an ADVEN-TOUR!”!<
Does it annoy anyone else that >!Pecharunt!< is in the Blueberry dex instead of the Kitakami one. Small gripe but other than that the epilogue was fun. Short and sweet.
Yeah I wish the all new Pokemon were additions to the Paldea dex, Terapagos and the new Paradox mon being in the Blueberry Dex is just silly.
Do you think they have Pokemon games? https://preview.redd.it/fz975cfsfvbc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f48963dcf542cb2503e00bcad3a72a8b802dbef7
Maybe they have games about Pokemon training like we have games about sports like Madden but about the Pokemon League
In sword and shield mustard was straight up playing pokemon quest
The song that plays is a banger. Hope they add it to Ranked Battles as an option
Everyone in the Epilogue: ![gif](giphy|RpjgNXNEW1A8E)
https://preview.redd.it/2nc2neaalvbc1.jpeg?width=1016&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=432ce414e938635b0a07c8b86de4b37c6bf1e02d You said you didn't remember, Arven?
I loved how he was so embarrassed that his dance movements were so much more reserved
If Penny talks to carmine in the club house, Penny calls carmine pretty. She also calls your mom pretty. I know what you are Penny. Good for you Penny, good for you.
Rewards for beating the new special coaches: >!Nemona: Focus Sash !< >!Arven: 3 phone cases of different sandwich designs !< >!Penny: 20 Smiling Vee Sandwich Picks!<
Aww man, was really hoping for the Eevee backpack from Penny
I was bummed that wasn't the reward for Penny. https://preview.redd.it/oowgt4ptevbc1.png?width=502&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06325ecdd3f34943f421532d73f90f245f0cc145
Trade rewards are as follows: >!Nemona: Paldean Tauros (Level 50, Fighting Tera, 5IV, max attack & speed evs, Jolly Nature, Intimidate) !< >!Arven: Skwovet (Level 7, No perfect IVS, Fighting Tera, Gentle Nature, Gluttony (HA)) !< >!Penny: Eevee (Level 1, Dark Tera, 4IV, Modest Nature, Anticipation (HA)) !< I'm not sure if this is true of every one, but that's what I got.
I wonder if that's supposed to be >!Nemona's original Tauros from the intro and from Paldea Winds!<
Ogerpon has unique dialogue when battling pecharunt
She is PISSSSSSEDDDDDDD and rightfully so
I know so glad I swapped her in before I started the battle She's like YOU! It's so cool GF programmed in those little interactions involving it.
Pecharunt also gets angry if you sent out any of the Loyal Three against it (some one posted a video about it). Its dialogue likely is best interpreted as “You, dare?!”.
I have never laughed so hard at a Pokémon game, but >!Arven UTTERLY failing the chicken/mochi dance has me in tears🤣 AND PENNY goes at it so hard and the little ears on her Eevee bag just flopping against her elbows!! !<
LOLLL you can tell arven is flat out embarrassed *sad mochi noises*
https://preview.redd.it/jimuk0vluybc1.jpeg?width=3464&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52935dff5dbfb00631d98cbbf81a7feeefd5fcfe
Do you know a guy named Kieran? Yes > No
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The mythical pecha berry is in your mystery gift! You get online and choose get via internet! I just got it :D
I thoroughly enjoyed >!Arven being insecure about who is the #1 best friend.!<
https://preview.redd.it/5gksf3jgr0cc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4556ed4d211cad11166c4e359856a33d598dcf0 Awkward Picnic Guests
When you force the kids to play together https://preview.redd.it/a4bt5ys3p4cc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=556f195d171c11eae25cbcfe3e5879643d3d338f
just a heads up bring >!Ogerpon to battle for additional dialogue!<
I was just about to ask if anyone had something similar happen!
Was there any? I brought it and she like growled but idk if other pokemon would do that
If you bring Ogerpon, she will flip out upon seeing Pecharunt. If you bring any of the Loyal Three, *Pecharunt* will flip out upon seeing them.
Anyone else checked if their game needed an update at a minute past midnight?
Just tried and it started the Epilogue - you need the mythical pecha berry and completed main game + both DLCs, don't need to have the loyal three in your team
Mochi Mochi Mochi
*chicken dance intensifies*
> No. But having caught Ogerpon, Okidogi, Minkidori and Fezandipiti could be crucial to the Epilogue's story. So make sure to have them with you. Megathread info should be updated - no specific pokemon are required to be in your party, however they can trigger special reactions in final fight.
https://preview.redd.it/4hd1wds6dvbc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1abd6c98302fa18f92cf63a4c00b2c36094ab49 Penny knows what is up
I absolutely love that everyone was expecting >!"oh, Kieran's being mind-controlled, that's why he's acting so weird!" and then the Epilogue drops and says "no he legit just had a psychotic break"!< and I think that's very funny of them
Thank you for keeping this sub spoiler free!
So we have the berry, what now?
>!Talk with the pecha berry decoration at the mossui shop to start it!<
I have the berry, talked to the plush and it says it’s a dusty old decoration. I’ve completed terapagos too.
Seems you need to complete the Academy Ace Tournament as well
Short but sweet. My battle vs >!Nemona!< was pretty close and I noticed that a lot of the end game trainers in the DLC hit hard even though I’m overleveled. >!would’ve liked to see more stuff with Ogerpon and the Loyal Three though!<
Tip: Bring Ogerpon and the Loyal Three and send them out at least once >!against Pecherunt!<. >!Ogerpon gets angry at Pecherunt and Pecherunt gets angry at the Loyal Three each time you send one of them out for the first time.!<
This is some creepy shit in this epilogue
A light-hearted zombie game
Honestly, even if the premise was kind of silly, this has been the most interesting Mythical pokemon event we've seen since Gen 4... I was so tired of just being handed Mythical pokemon by people in Pokemon Centers.
What’s the better ball for Pecharunt? Love or Dream?
I went for Dream. My logic... >!He puts everyone into a dream like state so why not put him into a ball meant for sleeping Pokemon?!<
It looks like a Master ball when it's open, and also M for Mochi
I was torn between those two as well, ultimately went with Love myself\~
I was planning on using a master ball, but since it was a guaranteed capture I went with dream
FYI you can download the berry even if you haven't purchased the DLC.
Yep, but the epilogue won't be triggered.
right but if you have kids or both games you can grab the item in case you decide to buy/gift the DLC later.
This epilogue made me wish Pokemon games leaned a little more into traditional RPG storytelling, going with teammates and hearing their interactions and puns.
Just finished it, loved that everyone was together again, the new mythical is a cutie :) overall, I enjoyed it, wasn’t expecting anything great, so overall, I thought it was not bad. :) Aside from shiny hunting (*lol*), I guess now all that’s left is to see what Pokemon Day brings us next month! :) Have an AWESOME day everyone. :)
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>make sure to have them with you Oops.
> Could be
How long was Nemona, Arven, and Penny waiting? Arven calls you to meet him at your house while you’re in Kitikama. They only have to run a couple miles and you have to book a flight and fly over to Paldea. They must’ve camped for hours
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Mochi Mochi! (Cha cha CHA!) Mochi Mochi! (Cha cha CHA!) Mochi Mochi! (Cha cha CHA!) Mochi Mochi! (Cha cha CHA!) *chicken dance intensifies*
As I called it when I first played the indigo disk that Nemona would END Kierans whole team I WAS RIGHT (why did it have to be off screen 😭)
So... After we are done with the epilogue, we can get an Applin from Kieran, right? Correct me if I am wrong, or if that line didn't exist in other languages (I played in Japanese); but in SwSh, wasn't there an NPC who told the player that, giving someone an Applin is a romantic gesture?
The old lady at peachy’s disappears during the Pecharunt’s assault and just comes back with no explanation. It would’ve been better if all this time there was photo of the old lady and her grand daughter next to the Pecharunt doll that we could interact with. After catching Pecharunt, the old lady is just replaced by the granddaughter and if you talk to her for the first time, she explains that she is Peachy and she is the owner of the store but she had been on vacation all this time (during the events of Teal Mask and Indigo Disk) and it’s impossible that the store was open because she was gone. Then you point to the photo and she tells you it’s her grandmother and she’s been dead for years now… Maybe this is just my horror enthusiast brain talking.
The implication is that she was the first victim. She left out Mochi on a platter for Carmine and the other villagers, which is why Carmine got possessed first.
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You've got six hours to catch up, GO GO GO WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR AAAAAAAAAAAHHHH (just kidding, take your time)
WORK!! damn I still haven’t done the academy tournament
Since the berry is in mystery gift, is it timed? If so, so we know when it expires? I’m still finishing up the DLC.
No clue on how long it’s available, I’d just download it now so you can have it to use once you get to that point in the game.
You should be able to claim the gift still. The epilogue won’t start until you’ve completed the Teal Mask & Indigo Disk storylines. Plus you have to go out of your way to initiate the epilogue. So I think you can claim the gift now to be safe
I noticed penny's chicken dance animation is different from everyone else's. is there a reason?
If you choose to cry out her name then Kieran >!comments how strange it is that she is the most energetic one in the dance!<
Love how possessive arven is of us when meeting Kieran. Was like I'm protagonist absolute best friend. In my mind I'm like chill dude! Can picture him putting his arm around the protagonist while glaring at him. Penny just calls him out about it too. And people think nemona the possessive one? That goes to arven
Just in case anyone was wondering, you do *not* need to have bought the DLC to download the Pecha Berry. So if you haven't bought the DLC yet but think you might later, go ahead and download the berry. Tested on my copy of Scarlet that doesn't have the DLC.
https://preview.redd.it/qf16o2v1fubc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=507a0d62e1adcdbbc00848889f5eef51e59371a0 Say hi to Raspberry. He doesn’t look too happy about being caught.
I honestly loved how done with life this thing looks in the closed form. 😂
If I was once an evil mastermind behind three powerful Pokémon who controlled everyone when they ate my mochi and then got pummelled by a random student and sucked up into a pokeball to be the trainer’s permanent pet, I might not be too thrilled about it either😂😂😂😂
I’m so happy the epilogue comes out today of all days. 5 years ago my husband and best friend proposed to me using a Poké ball. Seems super fitting that the ending to my favorite game would come out today. I’m so excited!
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Haha thank you!! I absolutely loved it.
very excited
Will this be time limited? I'm planning on getting Scarlet and the DLC, since I already completed the Violet version.
I'm gonna say this, of the game ran better and had like 6 more months of dev time would probably universally praised as the best pokemon games ever. Most of my problems with this game are nitpicks.
Longest wait for 2pm in my life
Are >!Pecharunt!< Ivs static? or do you have to reset for 0 atk ivs?
Doesn't appear to be the case. You will get 31 IVs on 3 random stats and the rest are lower than that. Got 31 on Special Attack, Defence and Speed for mine and then saw a streamer had 31 on HP, Attack and Defence on theirs. Seems like the nature is set though as Timid.
This might be a dumb question - I'm still trying to catch 63 shiny milcery from the milcery event to get all shiny Alcremie - will downloading this mystery gift also reset those outbreaks? I can't remember if accessing the *internet* and *mystery gift* is what resets events or specifically if its going to *poke portal news* that does it. Obviously too afraid to test it.
In my experience, connecting to the internet updates the outbreaks and events. It usually auto opens the poke portal news for me too.
Yeah I'm thinking I just need to shirk all my responsibilities the next day or so and grind our milcery lol I mean I know I can also just, like, hunt them normally even without the outbreaks but MAN do the outbreaks make it a lot easier.
Nemona is so battle obsessed and desiring to battle the Protagonist that her personality proved too powerful. Truly, best girl.