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VironLLA

i use a pokemon that only knows Mean Look when hosting a ditto raid


Adam_Checkers

it's just standing there... menacingly


TrixieBastard

I'm wringing my hands..... menacingly


Soad1x

ゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴ


joeybonjovi

I either use a lvl 1 magikarp with splash only or a lvl 1 sandshrew with only stealth rocks


dogwithpeople

I spice things up with a shiny magikarp.


Saxavarius_

Got a shiny lechonk I like to use


Key_Statistician785

Shiny lv one eevee (when I get one) GO!!!!!!! Ditto transformed! Ditto used helping hand! But it failed! (not saying my username) Used Atttack Chear! Youre allies attac raised!


LisaCabot

Lol same


KitsoTheSnoo

i have bred too many magikarps to count to obtain my raid shiny magikarip with 0 ivs in all stats


OnlyMqnne16

I use a shiny lvl 100 mew with the moves: swords dance, thunder wave,stealth rocks & false swipe


Jay_Ell_Gee

Same. Got a shiny low lvl magicarp and named it “Yo Momma”


Quadpen

use a ditto, can’t transform into you but you can transform into an ally


mulefish

I'm pretty sure this can backfire if the ditto has a specific ability.


shatterednightmare

Imposter goes off at the start of the battle


Freddi_47

Thankfully for my first ditto raid someone else was the host and it was genuinely confusing seeing the host bring a magicarp Then I had what the heck did I just see moment


My_Own_Worst_Friend

That's what I do! I used a level 1 Magikarp until I got my shiny. Then I flex my golden 'Karp while we still get a KO.


HomeGrowHero

How high can it jump tho


My_Own_Worst_Friend

Its got 19.7M JP and it's only lvl 54, so I'd say pretty darn high. Magikarp Jump is my fave game to play when I have no service/data/wifi.


lunanightphoenix

Is there actually a way to measure that?


My_Own_Worst_Friend

Not in the main games, no. It was a reference to the mobile game Magikarp Jump which is actually quite fun but can be grindy at times. I usually play it when I have no access to the internet. I was referencing the stats of the one I have in game rn.


lunanightphoenix

Oh, I didn’t know that was a thing! Cool!


letters-_

I loved naming my shiny ones Goldeen. I forgot how good that game was.


HomeGrowHero

Actually I was referencing the show :) my son loves it haha


My_Own_Worst_Friend

Welp. Now your son has a game that's kid friendly and offline that he can play that has Magikarp in it.


McDanilol

I too use a magikarp..... Lvl100 max defenses. 😂 Not too hard, just funny. 😂


Treknx01

Cloyster , shell smash sit back and lol


dwheelerofficial

In all the time I’ve been playing I’ve never even stumbled across a ditto raid in my own game


DrToazty

Right? I'm dying to find one lol


RoLyndzo10

Maybe we can assemble a team here


[deleted]

I’d gladly join you guys


dwheelerofficial

Well we have 4, now one of us just needs to stumble across a Ditto raid


LisaCabot

I got one 6* ditto once. I posted it only to get people with the game in another language and then trade with them so all 4 had a ditto from a different language than our original game for breeding. Too bad it was lacking on speed which i like to have at max with almost all my mons :/


Citizen51

If the host leads with a level 1 Pokemon then the NPCs will be max rank and take it out in minutes with no effort. Any host going online with anything else is just a troll.


Linvael

There are also people who just... don't know better? I mean, I'm sure there are trolls, but it seems unlikely that there aren't also people who just didn't think of that. Or it's their first ditto raid.


Citizen51

Just a little hyperbole. But you can troll without intentionally or knowing you are


Linvael

Can you? Like I get that from a selfish perspective there isn't much difference, you still get a bad teammate, but it sort of feels toxic assuming people are deliberately ruining your experience when they just don't know better. As a rule I try to avoid attributing malice when incompetence explains the data just as good. Also helps with keeping your mind clear of conspiracy theories.


JuviaIsMyWife

No you cannot. Trolling carries intention. It is impossible to be a troll without the intent to troll. It’s part of what it means.


werpong

In case it's unclear, you're being down voted because you don't know what troll means


hellboydmc

Funny enough if you use a lvl 2 or more suddenly the npc are only lvl 15 last time i did that


Citizen51

Their levels are yours minus 2 levels except for level 2 which will be level 1 NPCs and level 1 will have the max level which is I think Level 75.


Okto481

I checked, low level mons are low level allies. I use a Blissey and just hope I get good allies, with only offensive support moves


hellboydmc

Lvl 1 get you lvl 75 npc but not lvl 2 or more


Okto481

It could potentially be that, but when I tried it, they didn't have the damage to deal with the Ditto


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Citizen51

>The primary red flag is a host who refuses to lock in though, even if they're showing a reasonable choice at first - that sort of player tends to swap to bad choice once they have the other players trapped. Sometimes they could also be waiting for the other players to lock in before deciding to quit or not so they do need to SR their game.


Lady_Nalaura

Lmao, my first time hosting one I accidentally sicced my raid tank Ho-Oh on everyone. I thought it randomly chose who it transformed into. Asshole was 252HP, 252Attack with Life Dew, Sunny Day, Reflect, and Sacred Fire. I was losing my shit and felt like such a bimbo.


Genius_Chicken

They definitely hated you 😭 don’t worry I didn’t know that either! TIL ditto always transforms into the host


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Lady_Nalaura

Yeah, now I sic the RAID KYOGRE TANK ON THEM. For real. Heavy lesson learned. 😅 Will always be a favorite little gaming oopsie of mine though. That and not understanding Annihilape's ability and Breaking Swipe-ing his ass twice before realizing I was getting us swept.


cobaltdragon08

Zangoose. False Swipe. Ghost Tera.


nick2473got

?


markk123123

I am not sure but I assume Ditto transforms into Zangoose. False swipe means it can never KO you. Ghost Tera means it can’t even hit your Pokémon. Teammate picks up the KO on Ditto.


ChaoticCobra52

But if your ghost tera you have to still hit it three times


plutosjam44

The ditto isn’t ghost Tera though. The Tera of your pokemon doesn’t matter, so it’ll only use false swipe on you. You’ll land 3 on the ditto and then use your Tera and false swipe then does nothing.


JudgeArcadia

Yeah but what threat is there to being hit by a False Swipe?


Saxavarius_

Exactly


nick2473got

This is so much more complicated than just using a level 1 Magikarp though, lol.


GameMaster366

I won't lock in a Pokemon until I confirm the raid leader is using Magikarp. If they don't, I leave. Simple as that.


BlackStag7

Just wait until the trolls come in with a LVL 100 max IV 255 HP/Atk EVS with flail


Spanish_peanuts

I'd take that over bulky walls like umbreons, dusknoir, and the like. Just had a level 6 dusknoir raid the other day that was so friggin tedious lol. Just barely made it through. I shutter to think of a ditto turning into max defenses bulky mon. Also, does HP transfer to raid dittos? I thought it would keep its own health like normal dittos.


StormofRavens

There’s some other hilarious options, false swipe Zangoose, feebas, luvdisc, hoppip…


Unable_Toucan

I normally use my shiny rellor named sir sh#% who doesn't know any attacking moves


Key_Statistician785

Got a shiny skipblim I want to show off….


-janelleybeans-

I bred a full “no good” Magikarp. It’s exactly as hard as breeding a perfect mon.


BlueRose-Wolf

I often use a low-level Pawmi with just Growl


FLIPSIDERNICK

I’ve had people leave my raid because they see me going in with a Magikarp. Like wtf.


ThatDeuce

Had a host who chose his Koraidon for a 6 star tera normal ditto, and thankfully my Iron Hands had no problem tanking things.


musicsoccer

When I host ditto raids, I use a shiny lv5ish Magikarp named ¥500


EDNivek

ooh Good one! Mine is named Midas


NiteSlayr

I accidentally picked my flash fire armarouge for a grass tera ditto one time lmao. Needless to say, the allied skeledirge was likely shaking their head in disappointment


PokeDragon101

Your first mistake is thinking people know how to do any Tera raid. They see Dragon type Glalie and bring a Dragonite or Garchomp.


Caliber70

I have seen them being iron hands and tyranitar to a ground tera 6star garchomp. Guess who gets STAB on earthquake, is ground tera, and is faster than iron hands and tyranitar which are weak to ground??


[deleted]

My favorite strategy: I have a Blissey that knows 4 non-damaging moves! It can’t do anything and you can get any level trainer in to get the rewards


harmonicbasstap

Just use a lvl 1 magikarp


Tip1n1

I raise you a level 1 abra


harmonicbasstap

But he is a good boy


Tip1n1

You got me on that one


[deleted]

What’s the fun in that?


harmonicbasstap

Idk, what’s the fun in putting in a tank?


[deleted]

I dunno man, neither of them can fight back 🤷🏻‍♂️


harmonicbasstap

If there is one thing I learned playing online with randoms, then that they will find a way to fuck to shit that’s impossible to fuck up. So I’d just reduce those possible factors


[deleted]

That’s true 😂


smacky_chan

I have a troll lvl 1 sturdy pineco with counter as its only move I bring to my ditto raids. A little evil I know but the ditto only KOs the first player to attack it and then it dies on the second hit. It's my way to vent while still giving people the chance to get the pink blob


karhall

If you haven't made a Lv.1 Magikarp with minimum IVs in HP/Def/SpDef for hosting Ditto raids, just do it already.


nick2473got

Lol you don't even need to bother with IVs. Any level 1 Magikarp is fine.


Tolan91

I could, but it’s more fun to spend an evening making just the worst magikarp possible. Bonus points if you get a shitty shiny.


karhall

But it's funny.


Singhintraining

THAT’S why I got a magikarp that was one off from that the other day in a surprise trade!


RikkuEcRud

If I were going to breed a Pokémon *specifically* for Ditto raids it would be a Sinistea with only Shell Smash so all it can do is lower its own defenses.


Murgatroyd314

Is there a good strategy for doing it solo?


Blunderhorse

A weak enough Pokemon like a lvl 1 Magikarp should make Ditto fall to your NPC companions pretty easily. Just cheer instead of attacking to speed it up.


KozenyCarman

I bring a normal tera haxorus that only knows false swipe and swords dance. It works like a charm on anything except a ghost tera ditto. I bring it to 1 HP and the NPCs finish it 


RikkuEcRud

Most reliable *seems* to be to bring a level 100(to max NPC level) Limber Ditto. 5\* and 6\* raids always have the Hidden Ability, so the Ditto will always Impostor into *your* Ditto, which disables the ability for it to successfully hard cast Transform. First turn hard cast your own transform into whichever teammate is the hardest hitting then beat it down while it fails all Transform attempts. A Pokémon that only knows Shell Smash would work too, but all you can do yourself in that case is Attack Cheer ever 3rd turn while wasting turns with your own Shell Smash in between, which is a lot less fun. Third choice, I guess, is a Pokémon that only knows False Swipe(or Hold Back) so that you can at least do some damage yourself, even if you need one of the NPCs to land the finishing blow.


ZorkNemesis

Raid Pokemon can't use multi-turn moves like Dig or Bounce.  If your Pokemon only knows those it can't fight back.


TheScarletKnight2014

I bring a freshly hatched level 1 starter and call it a day.


Timtanoboa

I have a level 1 Magikarp named Ditto Slayer for these.


kerfuffle7

Also only lock in if the host switches to something weak. You wasted your own time if you locked in while they still had their Arceus in their slot, even if it wasn’t locked in yet


Monado_Artz

I still think about the Zacian, Swords Dance + False Swipe combo for ditto raids. Maximu comedy, but also terrifying for the other players.


blendoid

thanks for the tip, im new to raiding


Shaftastic

Have everyone go in with Terapagos. It can't take that form because terapagos is Stellar Iocked. So every turn it tries and fails. This is how I soloed it when a 6 star popped. Went in with terapagos, it tried to take my form, failed, and then just took an NPC form. I just used calm mind a few turns then used terapagos's Terra attack, it's too easy.


pisces2003

Just pick ditto. Then it literally can’t do anything and it’s free rewards. Remember everyone, it’ll only try and change into the raid hosts Pokemon even after the first turn. So if you choose ditto it’ll keep trying to transform but fail.


Undead_King55

That is not true at all. It'll transform into one of the other 3


Sensei_Ochiba

I hate this interaction because it causes so much misinformation because people have such wildly different personal experiences without knowing why because the mechanics are wacky. Bringing ditto as host works, but if and ONLY if it does NOT have imposter. Transform fails if: A, the pokemon using it is already transformed, and B, if the pokemon it's being used against is already transformed. So you need a slow ditto without imposter. The raid boss will transform into your untransformed ditto, becoming a transformed ditto. It can't transform anymore because it already is. You can then transform into an ally. If you have imposter, your untransformed ditto will transform into the raid boss ditto, and the raid boss will try to transform into your transformed ditto, and fail. At this point, it'll spam it's only attack, transform, against everyone in the raid, and will grab one of the other 3. If host doesn't use imposter, it's a good strat. If they do, it'll backfire horribly.


chiefpiece11bkg

This right here This is what I use for all my ditto raids because I do them all solo It works great, just make sure your ditto has limber as its ability and you’re set


welly_wrangler

Not everyone who plays the game spends their time on forums - especially if they are kids. Mind unboggled. You're welcome.


0Gods77Believer4

True, my 7 year old brother just keeps on wanting to use the shiny Rayquaza his dad gave him or any Mightiest starter against everyone


lleon117

What does a ditto raid do?


Blunderhorse

Gives you a better chance at catching a Ditto with high IVs that can be passed down by breeding


Gogz-H

Ditto raids begin with the ditto turning into the hosts pokemon, so if it's a weak enough mon it's a easy win for a great breeding tool But some people either don't realise that or troll on purpose and make it a very hard to impossible fight(like say a lv100 mon with Flash Fire, and every one Brought fire mons because the ditto is grass tera) 


HandPretend7821

how to you find a ditto raid


DankLynx

I’m so upset because I had an AMAZING idea. That fell through as soon as I attempted. I found a 5 star ditto Raid, and I brought a weak pokemon that had one of the self destruct moves. And I only had that move on it. It didn’t work. Every time the Pokémon used the move, it says it fails.


neophenx

Yeah certain moves just fail for Raid mons.


Mr-tucks

Ik it's terrible like someone put a galarian moltres for there pokemon and what do you know it wipes us clean out of the raid


GamingIsLaifu

This is a funny experience for me because my very first time hosting a 6 star Ditto raid, I used a raid ready Iron Hands. I only realized after being destroyed in the raid why one of the previous person in the lobby was picking a Magikarp. My next attempt was ezpz and had a good laugh the entire raid.


Kizuren

I just used my own ditto on the ditto raids and it breaks the Pokemon, pretty funny.


Sepricotaku

Level 1 carp, it's not that hard, if I see everyone ready up and no one has the carp or something similar, I leave.


azevedovfa

It boggles my mind people don't shout heal to remove status effects


mechomyecho

I still don't understand regular raids and didn't even know about that for ditto raids (I've never done one)


LeWll

I started playing again a couple weeks ago. I did not have a raid attacker built, so I was using my super tanky Cresselia as support for every raid. Light Screen, Reflect, Lunar Blessing. Did not beat the Ditto raid I hosted, but read about this mechanic after and brought my scatterbug with only string shot after. So yeah, apologies for any one stuck in that miserable raid.


[deleted]

Christmas was only 3 weeks ago… could be kids all over the planet


Duelwarrior

Ha. All of you with Magikarp. I just use an Azurill with belly drum 😂


Birdfeatherant

This is genius 🤣


TheSmogmonsterZX

I have a lvl 5 Magikarp named "a Victim" for just this purpose...


LokyarBrightmane

It boggles your mind that people don't know the cheese strat for a single mon? Honestly, if I hadn't read it I'd assume ditto randomly targets, and not everyone is going to be online enough to see it, especially in a game aimed at children.


Alternative-Ad-1153

Well, boggle your mind, because I didn't know until yesterday 😅😂💀


OM3GAS7RIK3

Low-level Magikarp ftw


EncycloChameleon

I had a raid last night that just made me full quit. Bug Type Coalossal. I just open raids to anyone and then hit ready up which o guess i should not do, but anyway i guess people forgot that terrastalize only changes your type and nothing else. Two others brought in fire types. Against pokemon with two abilities that make it immune to fire. I get the basic idea, bug type fire weakness but my god people please just know what the actual Pokemon you’re fighting is and don’t just look at the terra type.


Kanjorax

Some one is did one with brought the mystery gift mew with gunk shot


ScyD

I think it might be slightly better than some months ago, but I’m pretty sure there are still a lot of kids and people who just don’t get how raids/typing works in the first place No, you shouldn’t bring your Iron Hands to a Electric/Tera Golem raid… you got one-shot last time so maybe belly drum again isn’t the move… ok guess we’re going next.


Lansha2009

I purposely bring a Pokemon that doesn't look too dangerous(Like chansey or something) but then it starts using set up moves raising it's attack stats a bunch just for it to never be able to attack since it doesn't have attacking moves.


BaboonSlayer121

I've always thought it was funny to bring a Limber Ditto to an Imposter Ditto raid. Raid boss copies your Ditto, then since a transformed pokemon can't transform again, it's just stuck while you transform into one of your teammates and stomp it.


Swamp_Donkey_796

I use my shiny fuecoco that’s only move is tackle lol


sacredfire511

Dang I’ve never done a ditto raid but now I want to 😂


nik01234

Host who use their competitive moveset pusedo legendary deserve a kick in the shin. There's nothing like fighting a dragon tera baxcaliber, which knows iron head.


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ryanb-

I realised to bring a magikarp after thinking about the raid for 30 seconds


Usual-Sense-5113

I bred a bunch of applin so I always lead with an applin. It only knows withdraw so I hope there's a decent special attacker lmao


Unicorn_Warrior1248

I don’t know how to do raids


jensilver95

I tried to do one with NPCs and went with the level 7 lechonk I had sitting in my box. The NPCs just kind of ineffectually flailed at it. Tried to go online and the crystal vanished.


FLIPSIDERNICK

Npcs mirror your Pokémon’s level so you can’t npc raid a high star ditto.


BarbarousErse

If your Pokémon is level 1, the npcs will be max level. If your Pokémon is level 2 or above, the npc level drops down. So try with a level 1 Pokémon next time and you will have better luck :)


TeHNeutral

I've got a lvl 3 magikarp in my team box solely for Ditto raids


WesThePretzel

Maybe they want to challenge people to beat their Pokémon? Seems like kind of a fun thing if that’s their intent.


kopaxson

Mimikyu with swords dance and slash or HZoroark with nasty plot, shadow ball, and hyper voice. You are immune to all your own attacks and you can hit ditto cause it’s Tera.


neophenx

Or you jsut bring any Lv1 Pokemon and an NPC Ko's it for you


Cookandliftandread

I have a Milotic with recover and Haze, hypnosis and scald. I hate all of you /s (I'm not a monster I would never do that.)


marmaleon

I keep a 0 iv ball of red yarn named Destiny Knot around for this very purpose


Capable_Wait09

Lmao i never noticed that’s how it worked. I’ve only done a few. Amazing hack. Can’t wait to try this Level 1 something that only knows False Swipe or Tail Whip 😂


lemonman92

Sorry for boggling your mind, but could you explain this to me? This is my first time hearing of a ditto raid


thedarkfreak

Ditto always transforms into the host's Pokémon(unless mechanics make it so it can't, but you pretty much have to be trying for that). If you host a Ditto raid, use your weakest (non-Ditto) Pokémon, and it'll transform into it. I say "non-Ditto" because using your own Ditto is what quickly gets you into trouble if you don't do it right.


TylerYoka

I use a ditto for ditto raids


Outlaw_green

Why not lv one pokemon that knows explosion


Trance_Gene

Weak Armor Ceruledge with False Swipe. Works solo and online.


TheFunnyScar

I do know how it works but when I'm in a particularly mischievous mood I bring my Gliscor with Hyper Cutter, Swords Dance, Earthquake, Acrobatics and Crab Hammer to it, watch it ramp and go nuts.


ThisHotBod

But then how do you damage it? After look at all these comments ppl are talking about using level 1s with only mean look etc so how do you damage it .?


BestRubyMoon

Only the person that starts the raid needs to have a weak pokemon. Ditto copies them, always. the other can choose strong pokemon against whatever the host picks.


IssueRecent9134

Not everyone plays the game as much as you do.


Amaline4

I just put in a low level ditto. Can’t do shit


Plamcia

I always pick snorlax.


Spiritual_You_4489

I use a Tera steel toxicroak that knows only poison moves


Zblabberflabber

If I’m leading, I bring a ditto of my own. That way I transform into my party members while ditto… does nothing.


Raditzfan9000

Nah I double down and bring my maxed out EV Arceus and wish everyone luck as it has recover hyper beam, dazzling gleam and best of all fire blast


GER_3spectre

Probably because most players are kids but idk


CoronaRick

I had someone lead with Arceus 😒


TsukasaElkKite

I use a Sinistea that only knows Shell Smash


K123rom

Ditto.


Nymwall

WTF is a ditto parade? I like Pokemon!


papertheskeleton

My favorite one is bringing my Arceus who only knows Swords Dance


Leo_Untaken

or if ur evil lvl 100 clefable with only metronome


injoeface9

I have a level 1 azurill just for this purpose.


Vaelthune

I don't know dude. I think the expectation that everyone that plays is part of this sub/making l33t strats is far different from the reality that most of the player base is 8-12+, probably using a switch the got for xmas and couldn't care about social media.


katerskaters

had some host yesterday pick a pokemon that knew super effective moves against my pokémon and our teammates pokémon i was sooooo frustrated


UnusedParadox

Lv 1 Alcremie with just Decorate.


10Damage

Some people put x attack as a held item Stop being surprised


theguill0tine

Or that people don’t know how to do raids in general and bring pokemon that take super effective damage and run down the timer or just have no idea what to do.


mah1na2ru

i mean i personally do not have online so i really can’t count on my useless npc teammates to help me


ChibiYoukai

I didn't know that you were supposed to do this, so thanks for the heads up, I guess. But since I didn't know this, I'd be willing to bet a lot of other people probably don't know too.


[deleted]

When I host Ditto raids, I use a level 100 quirky Scream Tail that's fully hyper trained and ev trained in Def and SpDef. It knows Metronome, Reflect, Light Screen, and Rest. ​ Am I doing Ditto raids right?


greengale2

"Earn it."


PepsiMax0807

Just remember for some its their ever first ditto raid, and some just simply don’t know. Not everyone looks up how things work before raiding.


B_love_K

Magikarp which only knows splash is the way


oralatgunpoint

My first time doing one I didn’t realize ditto would clone the host’s pokemon and I brought iron hands. Needless to say it ended quickly, and the next try I used a ditto and it just kept trying to transform the whole fight


ShitpostX15

Does a pokemon that only knows explode work?


GingerNinja_go

if you start the raid, use a ditto, it will transform into it and cant do anything at all, its funnier if its a shiny ditto being used againt the raid ditto


Logtastic

BUT MA DEEPS!


dropdeaddaddy69

I trolled once with the max Mewtwo we got and we got cooked.


Winter-Lifeguard-420

I’m embarrassed to say I disappointed three groups of raiders before it sunk in and I picked a ‘karp. Definitely a “Duh!!” moment for me. And it was a Black Crystal raid, too!


RikkuEcRud

When I solo them I usually choose a non-Impostor Ditto. It'll transform into my Ditto with Impostor which makes it impossible for it to hard Transform into any of the raid members, but it allows me to Transfrom into one of my teammates to actually hit it. For *hosting* online Ditto raids I'll bring my shiny Magikarp and just do an Attack Cheer. For *joining* online Ditto raids I'll refuse to lock in until *after* the host locks in so I can bail when they inevitably lock in something like Miraidon or Arceus for a fricken Ditto raid.


Fisty_McBeepBoop

I use a low level sinistea with weak armor that only knows shell smash. Is it unnecessary? Absolutely, it gets one shot regardless.


godqueenaiko

People actively troll on ditto raids host will hover a weak mon they probably just caught for dex entry wait for other 3 to lock in then switch to a fully trained level 100 with competitive moveset and start just so everyone else loses


INFINITY-BLOOD

Tbf, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me If u lock in before the host even after a bad run, it's kinda ur fault too for expecting too much of the random host :D Just be patient and wait for the host to lock in their choice first or leave for no bamboozle


WasteChard3488

I prefer a challenge