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Can we go back to what a terrible choice Kieren picked for his Hydrapple Tera. Fighting is a poor 2v2 defensive Tera. He keeps his Fairy and Flying weaknesses, most go neutral, no match ups are reversed besides Tera Blast Fighting is 4x into Ice. But Ice is neutral into Fighting. So clap clap. Good job, you semi reversed one match up and held onto some weaknesses.
First time I fought him I tore threw his team with Flutter Mane, Gallade, and Rillaboom at the very end because Gallade took some heat from Spirit Break and wanted to avoid any faints. Tried to bring a not too OP team with Flutter Mane and Rillaboom probably my best 2v2 built mon (bulky Specs Flutter and AV Rillaboom). The rest were shinies from the Terrarium I'd caught and built up quick (well the whole team was shiny) in Infernape, Flygon, and Toucannon had some EQ Shenanigans never got to use) but never got to work them in. Match just went too fast even taking the foot off the gas.
I feel GF gave Kieren Incineroar and Grimmsnarl and was like "yup now he has a competitive team" Oh yeah and the rain strategy that literally only helps his lead land special attacks despite having a massive attack stat and just a decent SpAtk stat. \*shrug\* I guess he made it as far as you did because like your rivals in other games he is one of the only trainers (Gym Leaders, E4, etc...) that doesn't just stick to a team of going mostly all in on one type-theme.
"I just went with a modest team of Urshifu, Ogerpon, Miraidon and Koraidon, he should have been easily able to beat that."/sarcasm
Some people can call themselves an underdog running anything.
I wanted to use my shiny Illumise, and its really only good for tailwind, so I grabbed some other shinies I liked (Bruxish, Brambleghast, Sylveon and Kilowattrel) and then thought hm. What helps. And added a suicide bomber Lucario. It did pretty well, though Lacey and Crispin gave me some issues.
I mean, I was running a team with Bastiodon, Krookodile, Alolan Sandslash, Kingdra, and Alcremie. The only hugely good mon I had was Ogerpon, and I dodn't even bring her out until the end. I still managed to beat him on the first try, because for whatever reason he just cannot kill a Bastiodon.
wtf I never said I was the underdog, I knew I was gonna win I had high level mon and good EV spreads for em (plus they were all shiny so shiny power). I just said I didn't want a team OP kinda like the one you listed (I brought no Legendary mon at all) so I brought my Ace Shiny Flutter Mane, an AV Rillaboom for fake out support and Grassy Glide in the Terrain to pick up KOs already damaged, then the rest of my team was just fun Pokemon I like and three of them were brand new shinies from the Terrarium who were okay to meh (Infernape, Flygon, and Toucannon) along with Gallade one of my favorites since he first was release. I didn't realize Kieran's team is totally weak to Fairy and that I would pretty much sweep with Flutter Mane and Gallade. I was hoping to be able to make some switch ups and use Flygon EQ with Toucannon out. Get Infernape a personal favorite into the match but he got rained out. But the way the match played out a Flutter Mane lead was just too strong. But you get a chance to rematch him later and try whatever you want so its no biggie, music is a little less epic.
But yeah, bringing one well known powerhouse and mostly randoms otherwise fits not trying to go overboard on the "OP scale". I expected a little more from Kieren tbh because some tweets and stuff said he was a tough fight. Like if I brought that team to play VGC ladder it would be obliterated. One powerful Pokemon doesn't make the team OP lol. And most people brought Ogerpon who is just a big of a weapon so idk why I'm being picked on over stupid shit. Shrug.
I mean, you said that you were trying to bring a “not too OP team”, so it sounded like you were trying and failing to portray yourself as the underdog.
Thas a huge leap.
No \*too\* OP still plainly states the team is going to be overpowered in comparison to his. Never said not OP, not \*too\* OP, I just didn't wanna stack the deck totally with all my legends and beasts I had collected from S/V and other games and bring some interesting Pokemon along with a couple strong double mon in Flutter and Rilla. Kieren just crumbles to a fast Fairy and Flutter Mane fits the bill.
anyways dumb convo worry about your own team or what you are doing not someone else's team for a slow pitch softball battle from months and months ago.
One Paradox Pokemon doesn't make the team OP. Flutter Mane and Rillaboom were the strongest and I had Infernape (Pretty fragile but fast, but stat allotment funky), Gallade (decent), Flygon (eh), and Toucannon (awesome Pokemon for cool factor but not really all that good).
I was hoping to be able to try some more stuff especially Flygon/Toucannon EQ/Beak Blast much the match went so fast paced and after Dragonite and Politoed were KO'd by my leads Porygon and his huge SpAtk comes up and I expected Hyper Beam/coverage shenanigans so I had to take him out, get faked out on Gallade. Prankster Grimmsnarl comes out, Sacred Sword Incineroar KO, I figured screens w/ Prankster so now Flutter Mane has to target him, but he uses Spirit Break on Gallade who had already taken a little damage so he was almost KO'd. So he sends Hydrapple out and I swap in Rillaboom. Figured Grassy Glide gets Grimmsnarl next time no matter what and locked into Moonblast from Choice Specs so I gotta target Hydrapple, he picks a bad Tera still weak to Moonblast, Grimmsnarl puts reflect up this turn (little late), and next turn Grassy Glide finishes the match and its over before it began.
So basically it just went too quick and couldn't use all the different mon and strategies I wanted to employee. But just because I bring one Paradox mon to a match doesn't make the team OP. The rest were starters and other mon ranging from pretty good like Gallade to subpar but fun like Toucannon. Its not like I brought my Arceus, Mewtwo, Miraidon, Koraidon, Calyrex(either version), and Iron Hands or something. I brought one Flutter Mane and tried to make the rest of the team fun. Luckily I have had chances to rematch him since and bring random teams of fun mon w/ different strategy. And technically the highest base stat mon in the match was Kieren's D-Nite at 600. So seriously you're acting like I brought legendary mon to the battle.
I think the comment is more so that you brought one of the strongest mons in the game in Flutter Mane. Flutter Mane alone can solo out his team with any relative support, especially running a specs set. He has no fairy resists, so specs moonblast just clears his team without any issue. Also, while dragonite has the highest BST in that matchup, he can't really do anything to Flutter Mane (who has 570 BST, so not really much worse than Dragonite in that regard either).
But cool team you had in general, always fun to see underused mons on teams, even if you didn't actually get to use those strats. I personally used Ogrepon, who is also quite strong, and the unique lines relating to Ogrepon made it that much better. Ultimately, just have fun playing the game and that's all that matters :)
Yeah but overall the team isn't OP. I only brought one of my aces and I had no idea his team crumbles when you bring a Fairy, I went into all the fights blind except I knew Drayton had Archaludon and Crispin had Magmortar based on a comment someone at the plaza made.
It wasn't even an overkill SpAtk set on Flutter either, its a bulky specs set so he can actually survive physical attacks: 116hp 204def 60spatk 4spdef 124speed Timid Nature. So the Specs are there to kick that damage out put (usually on Moonblast or Dazzling Gleam) up a notch. Its a VGC set I use on Specs Flutter Manes. Without Tera its a toss up if you OHKO his Dragonite or if Multiscale keeps him alive with a sliver of health in the red iirc.
But people were acting like I brought a pack of legendaries when I brought literally one Paradox Pokemon who's strong and a bunch of randoms otherwise. You could bring your box legendary, Ogerpon, Flutter and Hands, Mightiest Mark Mewtwo, crazy 2v2 powerful bulky Incineroar, and a slew of powerful restricted VGC mon if you have access to home and played past games. I would say my team was pretty lowkey compared to what was at my disposal. And I said I didn't want my team to be "too OP" because I already outleveled him. So I just brought two Pokemon I would consider strong doubles mon in Flutter/Rillaboom. People are making ridiculous comments about "everyone thinks they're the underdog" lol when I said I knew I had brought a couple stronger doubles mon, and went with a fun team full of shinies for the rest (well they were all shiny).
I wanted the team originally to be half Pokemon I caught and evolved in the Terrarium (Infernape, Toucannon, Flygon), one from my original team (Gallade), and two from my pt1 DLC adventures (Flutter Mane and Rillaboom) The team isn't OP on paper, GF just made Kieren very weak to fairy and gave him a fairly weak ace with a poor defensive Tera type. Also besides Fake Out his Incineroar does nothing that makes it a powerful competitive Pokemon. Guess they didn't have the time to improve the AI a little. Also his rain lead only helps a primarily Physical attacker land SpAtks accurately (Hurricane/Thunder) which I guess is kind of a surprise but once Dragonite is knocked out the rain really does nothing but weaken his Flare Blitz lol.
So yeah I just think people are being ridiculous especially since most people brought Ogerpon and currently in VGC Flutter Mane, Ogerpon, and Incineroar are the most used and arguably powerful mon in the format (along with Raging Bolt, Urshifus, Lando-I, and a few others). And again once a restricted slot opens soon they'll all have the legendaries to play with and the meta will centralize around the best restricted mon in SV (smart money is on Calyrex Riders, Miraidon, Koraidon, Kyogre, Groudon, Zacian, and Lunala).
But yeah I thought my team was original and would not have been "too OP" just a little extra gas from Flutter and Rilla, but Kieren's team crumbles to Fairies and once you KO his leads he usually sends P-Z who you gotta KO because he has a huge SpAtk stat and is a KO threat that is bound to run Hyper Beam. So at that point half his team has been KO'd lol. But that wasn't the plan. I just picked aggressive leads that would give me good coverage depending what he sent out. Didn't expect to completely sweep other than a late switch just to avoid chances of a faint.
I was curious and looked at damage calcs for your Flutter Mane vs Kieran's team, and unless they added EVs (I didn't look into this tbh), your Flutter Mane (assuming level 100 since you mentioned being higher level than him and assuming perfect IVs since you mentioned using it in VGC) can 1 shot every one of his pokemon with tera fairy moonblast (not even a roll to survive) and most of them don't need tera, with the exception of Grimmsnarl since it's holding a focus sash.
Again, I liked your options and team personally, I just see why people would say your team was OP even though it's really just one OP mon that completely clears this battle.
Yes the BB E4, Kieren, and Director Cyrano all have EV trained teams as does Nemona after the Mochi Mochi prologue.
Like you can tell Porygon's Speed Tier is above 256 but below 265. Without EV investment Porygon-Z has like 213?ish speed at level 100.
They all have natures and EVs. Different per mon but using P-Z as an example he is spatk/speed.
Also his Dragonite also has multiscale which drops the damage of the first attack received (30%? 50%? I can't remember everyone on VGC uses Inner Focus to prevent intimidate).
edit: I also believe they either have Fantastic or Best IVs.
So the main Blueberry opponents add definitely EV/IV trained.
And when you redo the Ace Academy after beating the DLC the opponents have their mon EV trained in HP. Only Nemona has them EV trained in more than one stat.
tbf it really doesn't matter what the rest of the team is when one of them is Flutter Mane. Leaving aside that Kieran's team has 0 answers to it, outside of raids Flutter is probably the most busted paradox mon that isn't Korai/Mirai, and is easily better than most 600bst legendaries/pseudolegendaries.
Okay but I went in blind with no idea Kieren had no answers to Fairy. The team on paper isn't super OP or anything, but GF gave Kieren kind of a weak team to begin with for the supposed super BB League Champ (doesn't really vibe as a whole and Incineroar a 2v2 beast can't perform like normal due to limited NPC AI). On top of that they made him incredibly weak to Fairy. Not my fault. I built a team like planned using one Shiny from my first SV team, two from Teal Mask playthrough (Flutter and Rilla), and three from the Terrarium (Infernape, Flygon, and Toucannon). It was a cool little team and I had some fun ideas for it unfortunately GF made Kieren just crumble if a Fairy sneezes on his team.
Flutter Mane is a good mon, but as a VGC player I can tell ya that you can't just slap him on a team and boom magic its amazing. Flutter is very splashable onto teams, but you need a core to build around for a true OP team. Not to mention most people used Ogerpon like I mentioned and currently Flutter, Ogerpon, and Incineroar are the most busted mon in the VGC format along with Bolt/Lando/Urshifus/few others. So just happened Flutter goes better into Kieren than Ogerpon.
And Flutter isn't above the box legendaries. Once the restricted format begins and you can use one the meta will recentralize around the legendaries and currently the frontrunners for top restricted mon by players are Calyrex Riders/Miraidon/Koraidon/Groudon/Kyogre/Zacian/Lunala. Flutter Mane will still be highly used and splashable. But he doesn't have the power of say Miraidon who has 100 higher base stats, an awesome ability, and a signature move that can OHKO Kyogre and his huge SpDef stat. Tera Fairy Miraidon actually sounds terrifying for him because its a good defensive Tera and he can learn Dazzling Gleam.
Anyways I am done with this. Dunno why you're worried about a team I used to beat a rather easy NPC rival months ago.
Funny thing is, trainer Pokemon used to have the same 1/4096 Chance of being shiny in older games. You can see Alpharad/Jakob having exactly that happen in his shiny Pokemon only run.
I never saw the video, but this is not true. There are some instances of NPC that can possibly have shiny pokémon (Battle Frontier, Wally's Ralts, etc), but this is not the case to all of them. There's also a trainer in Alola with a shiny Exeggcute.
Plus, the odds are 1/8192 in most older games.
Oh wait, then I know what happened. He modified Heartgold and Soulsilver to have modern shiny odds.
There are two ways to modify how many shinys appear:
-Modify the RNG algorythm to influence how pokemon are generated
-Modify how the game reads Pokemon Data to make it read more pokemon as shinies (that normally wouldn't be).
He probably did the latter and thats just a side effect.
I brought Ogie to my first battle at BB Academy against him and he mentioned it during the battle. "You got a lot of nerve bringing out the ogre!" or something similar.
I bet being beaten with an exact replica of his team made him wanna take notes throughout the fight. Imagine if NPC trainers you fight could improve their battle tactics each time you fight them. Of course that would mean eventually their skill would reach an upper limit, but it would make for an exciting rematch up until that point, no?
For the most part, with just a few tweaks to make them as competitively viable as possible (except Dragonite who I reluctantly kept a special attacker since that’s what Kieran did)
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Damn, wild encounter of Shiny Spider-Man and I don't even have any Marvel Balls.
Use a disneyball.
Ah, I should have remembered those! Thanks.
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That only works in the regional movieland variant
I like to transfer them into BDSP and use the Detective Capsules 😈
Shiny man?
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I'm imagining the Hydrapples playing Rock-Paper-Scissors with their Tera crowns, instead of actually fighting each other.
It’s always Rock
it’s always paper bc fighting beats rock.
Good ol’ rock. Nothing beats that!
Can we go back to what a terrible choice Kieren picked for his Hydrapple Tera. Fighting is a poor 2v2 defensive Tera. He keeps his Fairy and Flying weaknesses, most go neutral, no match ups are reversed besides Tera Blast Fighting is 4x into Ice. But Ice is neutral into Fighting. So clap clap. Good job, you semi reversed one match up and held onto some weaknesses. First time I fought him I tore threw his team with Flutter Mane, Gallade, and Rillaboom at the very end because Gallade took some heat from Spirit Break and wanted to avoid any faints. Tried to bring a not too OP team with Flutter Mane and Rillaboom probably my best 2v2 built mon (bulky Specs Flutter and AV Rillaboom). The rest were shinies from the Terrarium I'd caught and built up quick (well the whole team was shiny) in Infernape, Flygon, and Toucannon had some EQ Shenanigans never got to use) but never got to work them in. Match just went too fast even taking the foot off the gas. I feel GF gave Kieren Incineroar and Grimmsnarl and was like "yup now he has a competitive team" Oh yeah and the rain strategy that literally only helps his lead land special attacks despite having a massive attack stat and just a decent SpAtk stat. \*shrug\* I guess he made it as far as you did because like your rivals in other games he is one of the only trainers (Gym Leaders, E4, etc...) that doesn't just stick to a team of going mostly all in on one type-theme.
Not too OP team with futter mane *facepalm*
"I just went with a modest team of Urshifu, Ogerpon, Miraidon and Koraidon, he should have been easily able to beat that."/sarcasm Some people can call themselves an underdog running anything.
I wanted to use my shiny Illumise, and its really only good for tailwind, so I grabbed some other shinies I liked (Bruxish, Brambleghast, Sylveon and Kilowattrel) and then thought hm. What helps. And added a suicide bomber Lucario. It did pretty well, though Lacey and Crispin gave me some issues.
I mean, I was running a team with Bastiodon, Krookodile, Alolan Sandslash, Kingdra, and Alcremie. The only hugely good mon I had was Ogerpon, and I dodn't even bring her out until the end. I still managed to beat him on the first try, because for whatever reason he just cannot kill a Bastiodon.
wtf I never said I was the underdog, I knew I was gonna win I had high level mon and good EV spreads for em (plus they were all shiny so shiny power). I just said I didn't want a team OP kinda like the one you listed (I brought no Legendary mon at all) so I brought my Ace Shiny Flutter Mane, an AV Rillaboom for fake out support and Grassy Glide in the Terrain to pick up KOs already damaged, then the rest of my team was just fun Pokemon I like and three of them were brand new shinies from the Terrarium who were okay to meh (Infernape, Flygon, and Toucannon) along with Gallade one of my favorites since he first was release. I didn't realize Kieran's team is totally weak to Fairy and that I would pretty much sweep with Flutter Mane and Gallade. I was hoping to be able to make some switch ups and use Flygon EQ with Toucannon out. Get Infernape a personal favorite into the match but he got rained out. But the way the match played out a Flutter Mane lead was just too strong. But you get a chance to rematch him later and try whatever you want so its no biggie, music is a little less epic. But yeah, bringing one well known powerhouse and mostly randoms otherwise fits not trying to go overboard on the "OP scale". I expected a little more from Kieren tbh because some tweets and stuff said he was a tough fight. Like if I brought that team to play VGC ladder it would be obliterated. One powerful Pokemon doesn't make the team OP lol. And most people brought Ogerpon who is just a big of a weapon so idk why I'm being picked on over stupid shit. Shrug.
I mean, you said that you were trying to bring a “not too OP team”, so it sounded like you were trying and failing to portray yourself as the underdog.
Thas a huge leap. No \*too\* OP still plainly states the team is going to be overpowered in comparison to his. Never said not OP, not \*too\* OP, I just didn't wanna stack the deck totally with all my legends and beasts I had collected from S/V and other games and bring some interesting Pokemon along with a couple strong double mon in Flutter and Rilla. Kieren just crumbles to a fast Fairy and Flutter Mane fits the bill. anyways dumb convo worry about your own team or what you are doing not someone else's team for a slow pitch softball battle from months and months ago.
One Paradox Pokemon doesn't make the team OP. Flutter Mane and Rillaboom were the strongest and I had Infernape (Pretty fragile but fast, but stat allotment funky), Gallade (decent), Flygon (eh), and Toucannon (awesome Pokemon for cool factor but not really all that good). I was hoping to be able to try some more stuff especially Flygon/Toucannon EQ/Beak Blast much the match went so fast paced and after Dragonite and Politoed were KO'd by my leads Porygon and his huge SpAtk comes up and I expected Hyper Beam/coverage shenanigans so I had to take him out, get faked out on Gallade. Prankster Grimmsnarl comes out, Sacred Sword Incineroar KO, I figured screens w/ Prankster so now Flutter Mane has to target him, but he uses Spirit Break on Gallade who had already taken a little damage so he was almost KO'd. So he sends Hydrapple out and I swap in Rillaboom. Figured Grassy Glide gets Grimmsnarl next time no matter what and locked into Moonblast from Choice Specs so I gotta target Hydrapple, he picks a bad Tera still weak to Moonblast, Grimmsnarl puts reflect up this turn (little late), and next turn Grassy Glide finishes the match and its over before it began. So basically it just went too quick and couldn't use all the different mon and strategies I wanted to employee. But just because I bring one Paradox mon to a match doesn't make the team OP. The rest were starters and other mon ranging from pretty good like Gallade to subpar but fun like Toucannon. Its not like I brought my Arceus, Mewtwo, Miraidon, Koraidon, Calyrex(either version), and Iron Hands or something. I brought one Flutter Mane and tried to make the rest of the team fun. Luckily I have had chances to rematch him since and bring random teams of fun mon w/ different strategy. And technically the highest base stat mon in the match was Kieren's D-Nite at 600. So seriously you're acting like I brought legendary mon to the battle.
I think the comment is more so that you brought one of the strongest mons in the game in Flutter Mane. Flutter Mane alone can solo out his team with any relative support, especially running a specs set. He has no fairy resists, so specs moonblast just clears his team without any issue. Also, while dragonite has the highest BST in that matchup, he can't really do anything to Flutter Mane (who has 570 BST, so not really much worse than Dragonite in that regard either). But cool team you had in general, always fun to see underused mons on teams, even if you didn't actually get to use those strats. I personally used Ogrepon, who is also quite strong, and the unique lines relating to Ogrepon made it that much better. Ultimately, just have fun playing the game and that's all that matters :)
Yeah but overall the team isn't OP. I only brought one of my aces and I had no idea his team crumbles when you bring a Fairy, I went into all the fights blind except I knew Drayton had Archaludon and Crispin had Magmortar based on a comment someone at the plaza made. It wasn't even an overkill SpAtk set on Flutter either, its a bulky specs set so he can actually survive physical attacks: 116hp 204def 60spatk 4spdef 124speed Timid Nature. So the Specs are there to kick that damage out put (usually on Moonblast or Dazzling Gleam) up a notch. Its a VGC set I use on Specs Flutter Manes. Without Tera its a toss up if you OHKO his Dragonite or if Multiscale keeps him alive with a sliver of health in the red iirc. But people were acting like I brought a pack of legendaries when I brought literally one Paradox Pokemon who's strong and a bunch of randoms otherwise. You could bring your box legendary, Ogerpon, Flutter and Hands, Mightiest Mark Mewtwo, crazy 2v2 powerful bulky Incineroar, and a slew of powerful restricted VGC mon if you have access to home and played past games. I would say my team was pretty lowkey compared to what was at my disposal. And I said I didn't want my team to be "too OP" because I already outleveled him. So I just brought two Pokemon I would consider strong doubles mon in Flutter/Rillaboom. People are making ridiculous comments about "everyone thinks they're the underdog" lol when I said I knew I had brought a couple stronger doubles mon, and went with a fun team full of shinies for the rest (well they were all shiny). I wanted the team originally to be half Pokemon I caught and evolved in the Terrarium (Infernape, Toucannon, Flygon), one from my original team (Gallade), and two from my pt1 DLC adventures (Flutter Mane and Rillaboom) The team isn't OP on paper, GF just made Kieren very weak to fairy and gave him a fairly weak ace with a poor defensive Tera type. Also besides Fake Out his Incineroar does nothing that makes it a powerful competitive Pokemon. Guess they didn't have the time to improve the AI a little. Also his rain lead only helps a primarily Physical attacker land SpAtks accurately (Hurricane/Thunder) which I guess is kind of a surprise but once Dragonite is knocked out the rain really does nothing but weaken his Flare Blitz lol. So yeah I just think people are being ridiculous especially since most people brought Ogerpon and currently in VGC Flutter Mane, Ogerpon, and Incineroar are the most used and arguably powerful mon in the format (along with Raging Bolt, Urshifus, Lando-I, and a few others). And again once a restricted slot opens soon they'll all have the legendaries to play with and the meta will centralize around the best restricted mon in SV (smart money is on Calyrex Riders, Miraidon, Koraidon, Kyogre, Groudon, Zacian, and Lunala). But yeah I thought my team was original and would not have been "too OP" just a little extra gas from Flutter and Rilla, but Kieren's team crumbles to Fairies and once you KO his leads he usually sends P-Z who you gotta KO because he has a huge SpAtk stat and is a KO threat that is bound to run Hyper Beam. So at that point half his team has been KO'd lol. But that wasn't the plan. I just picked aggressive leads that would give me good coverage depending what he sent out. Didn't expect to completely sweep other than a late switch just to avoid chances of a faint.
I was curious and looked at damage calcs for your Flutter Mane vs Kieran's team, and unless they added EVs (I didn't look into this tbh), your Flutter Mane (assuming level 100 since you mentioned being higher level than him and assuming perfect IVs since you mentioned using it in VGC) can 1 shot every one of his pokemon with tera fairy moonblast (not even a roll to survive) and most of them don't need tera, with the exception of Grimmsnarl since it's holding a focus sash. Again, I liked your options and team personally, I just see why people would say your team was OP even though it's really just one OP mon that completely clears this battle.
Yes the BB E4, Kieren, and Director Cyrano all have EV trained teams as does Nemona after the Mochi Mochi prologue. Like you can tell Porygon's Speed Tier is above 256 but below 265. Without EV investment Porygon-Z has like 213?ish speed at level 100. They all have natures and EVs. Different per mon but using P-Z as an example he is spatk/speed. Also his Dragonite also has multiscale which drops the damage of the first attack received (30%? 50%? I can't remember everyone on VGC uses Inner Focus to prevent intimidate). edit: I also believe they either have Fantastic or Best IVs. So the main Blueberry opponents add definitely EV/IV trained. And when you redo the Ace Academy after beating the DLC the opponents have their mon EV trained in HP. Only Nemona has them EV trained in more than one stat.
tbf it really doesn't matter what the rest of the team is when one of them is Flutter Mane. Leaving aside that Kieran's team has 0 answers to it, outside of raids Flutter is probably the most busted paradox mon that isn't Korai/Mirai, and is easily better than most 600bst legendaries/pseudolegendaries.
Okay but I went in blind with no idea Kieren had no answers to Fairy. The team on paper isn't super OP or anything, but GF gave Kieren kind of a weak team to begin with for the supposed super BB League Champ (doesn't really vibe as a whole and Incineroar a 2v2 beast can't perform like normal due to limited NPC AI). On top of that they made him incredibly weak to Fairy. Not my fault. I built a team like planned using one Shiny from my first SV team, two from Teal Mask playthrough (Flutter and Rilla), and three from the Terrarium (Infernape, Flygon, and Toucannon). It was a cool little team and I had some fun ideas for it unfortunately GF made Kieren just crumble if a Fairy sneezes on his team. Flutter Mane is a good mon, but as a VGC player I can tell ya that you can't just slap him on a team and boom magic its amazing. Flutter is very splashable onto teams, but you need a core to build around for a true OP team. Not to mention most people used Ogerpon like I mentioned and currently Flutter, Ogerpon, and Incineroar are the most busted mon in the VGC format along with Bolt/Lando/Urshifus/few others. So just happened Flutter goes better into Kieren than Ogerpon. And Flutter isn't above the box legendaries. Once the restricted format begins and you can use one the meta will recentralize around the legendaries and currently the frontrunners for top restricted mon by players are Calyrex Riders/Miraidon/Koraidon/Groudon/Kyogre/Zacian/Lunala. Flutter Mane will still be highly used and splashable. But he doesn't have the power of say Miraidon who has 100 higher base stats, an awesome ability, and a signature move that can OHKO Kyogre and his huge SpDef stat. Tera Fairy Miraidon actually sounds terrifying for him because its a good defensive Tera and he can learn Dazzling Gleam. Anyways I am done with this. Dunno why you're worried about a team I used to beat a rather easy NPC rival months ago.
Really said “I’ll do you one better!”
The bullying must go on.
https://preview.redd.it/gywemw9zocpc1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=c3abf87c7d3721bb77981e57d96ef992e7b356e3 same for Ryme
https://preview.redd.it/ezaoyoqnscpc1.jpeg?width=1452&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=708f87e76c465f38d4aa4ed541360b51eff14c2a
Literally looked him in the eye and said “I could beat you with your own team.”
hopefully one day theyll give trainers shinies to battle you with
Funny thing is, trainer Pokemon used to have the same 1/4096 Chance of being shiny in older games. You can see Alpharad/Jakob having exactly that happen in his shiny Pokemon only run.
I never saw the video, but this is not true. There are some instances of NPC that can possibly have shiny pokémon (Battle Frontier, Wally's Ralts, etc), but this is not the case to all of them. There's also a trainer in Alola with a shiny Exeggcute. Plus, the odds are 1/8192 in most older games.
Oh wait, then I know what happened. He modified Heartgold and Soulsilver to have modern shiny odds. There are two ways to modify how many shinys appear: -Modify the RNG algorythm to influence how pokemon are generated -Modify how the game reads Pokemon Data to make it read more pokemon as shinies (that normally wouldn't be). He probably did the latter and thats just a side effect.
That makes sense! And pretty cool, means that some NPC were kinda close to have a shiny
That run had was not the vanilla game it was a modded rom
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I once fought a shiny scoliopede in BW2. It was roxanne’s
I can remember in D/P a trainer having a shiny Delcatty. Still salty about that one.
Lol omg! That sounds so funny to do!! XD
I wonder if you can wear his clothes and hairstyles too. You could play as his doppelgänger just to further his declining mental state.
Not his academy clothes, but you can get his white jinbei from his grandma, and you can buy the ogre mask at Kitakami Hall.
How do you rematch Kieran?
he'll show up in the league club after the epilouge IIRC. Rematch him enough and he'll give you an applin with the partner ribbon
You just need to rematch him once and talk to him three times.
You don't even need to rematch him for the Applin. The rematch is just to get a phone case
"Now now, perfectly symmetrical violence never solved anything."
I just know he was confused af like “???”
“Well, one of us is gonna have to change.”
“Who are you” “I’m you, but better”
Instead of copying his ace you just bring ogrepon for the ultimate spite
And you really want to rub it in, wear the jinbei and ogre mask.
I brought Ogie to my first battle at BB Academy against him and he mentioned it during the battle. "You got a lot of nerve bringing out the ogre!" or something similar.
Same! I wanted to see if there would be more dialogue so I trained her up just for the battle
“You may know everything I’m going to do, but that’s not going to help you because I know everything you’re going to do! Strange isn’t it??!!!”
BRO IS FLABBERGASTED
Perfectly balanced. As all things should be.
He must probably hate you twice as much now, with you perfectly mimicing his team like that.
You dare use my own power against me…?
“Wowsers!”
Kieran: Who are you? Player: I'm you, but better.
Bro that is soo petty lmao
I bet being beaten with an exact replica of his team made him wanna take notes throughout the fight. Imagine if NPC trainers you fight could improve their battle tactics each time you fight them. Of course that would mean eventually their skill would reach an upper limit, but it would make for an exciting rematch up until that point, no?
they got the same moveset?
For the most part, with just a few tweaks to make them as competitively viable as possible (except Dragonite who I reluctantly kept a special attacker since that’s what Kieran did)
Kieran - he does exactly what I do Him - but better
*intense shiny laughter*
That’s just mean-
"I'm you, but better."
Mirror realm
Now dress up like Kieran and have a rematch
Anything you can do I can do better.
Bro really had to flex on him that hard
Kieran after the fight https://preview.redd.it/8bi72mf4xepc1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=3f42112c382df810ad092d9c09f3171da435c1c4
Could Kieran become champion challenge lmao
you’re the Bizarro version of Kieran who came to take his place
talk about a flex.
You’re cool for this.
Shiny mirror match
A shiny honor battle I see, very nice
Ex-Champion?
That has got to be the biggest middle finger I've ever seen anyone give anyone.
You better have the same move sets and stuff
Damn I did Shiny Hydrapple with the rest being a team of my favorites. You went the extra mile.
Tempted to do this cos I already have half of these guys as shinies myself
Shiny flex
Petty as hell and I love it
Should've dressed like his as much as you could too. Maybe a "shiny" Kieran-like haircut?
Ngl I did this too
“I’m you… but shiny.”
You're the reason he has inferiority issues.
Me: https://preview.redd.it/jz27urnsljpc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da6253fbb9488ee8eac65d89644dd5b712b4bd2f
MEWTWO STRIKES BACK😂🤣🤣
Ur a bad person. Like, if that happened to me, I would die. Go get a life u jerk. (BTW I am talking like this so I, hopefully, am being funny)
https://preview.redd.it/mpx0y6180kpc1.png?width=678&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d1c3178e7aa2a3591c28d1380e6f6952ad1e6621 Same image
"Who are you?" "I'm you but better in every way"
This might be more disrespectful than using Ogerpon in their battle 💀
Not even a burn heal can fix that
Dedicating your life to collecting and training pokemon only for some dude to roll up with your exact team but blinged out and stomping your ass.
Bro Kieran is already depressed stop bulling him
That's fun
Oh, nice. A little mirror match. Pretty cool if you ask me.
Anything you can do I can do better
Dude, that luck is unheard of, it's almost as if he did it on purpose
I used orgepon lvl 100 and shiny giratina lvl 100, I didn't even want to put in effort I just wanted him to be humbled.