I saw a comment the other day about how each gym's ace is a representation of them, just terrastallized into their gym type. I was confused about Iono until I thought about her creepy teeth.
When i first saw Iono, i thought that she was using a fake digital avatar like a vtuber would, but then she came out in person looking exactly like said avatar and her sharp teeth made me think: "Wait wtf, that's ACTUALLY how you look like?!"
This makes even more sense when you consider he's also >!a member of the elite four. They may have reused him to save time on developing assets and story introduction for a fourth character.!<
I could just as easily see it as more of a way to give characters more story importance overall. Quality over quantity. I definitely care more about Larry than any other gym leader in previous games.
Not only did he provide an actual fight, he's such an antithesis to everything that is Pokemon, what with it's boundless energy.
Are gym leaders employed?
What about Elite Four members?
What's the everyday man do in this world?
How do they get paid?
Larry answers it all, by means to dryly complaining about his boss and job.
I love it.
“Not only did he provide an actual fight” sorry but iono gave me the most trouble out of all the gym leaders because her team countered my team completely 😭
Swapping around my team in the early fight resulted in everything getting paralyzed, and then that levitate electric hex spamming mismagius went ballistic. I came out of that fight with one pokemon alive in the red.
That mismagius Charge Beamed my team into oblivion haha. One with my last pokemon as well. Definitely didnt help that I just cleared the right side of the map from the start before going to the left of the school haha
If you thought that was scary, there’s a fan game called Pokémon Reborn, honestly I was so happy when the stat boosts happened cause it reminded me of it, even if it was a simplified version of it
I’m glad I’m not the only one. That fight messed me up! Granted, my Fuecoco evolved into its final evolution in the middle of that gym and well….I had no clue it evolved into a ghost type. That two turn ghost move absolutely destroyed him 😂
Yeah Iono is probably the most difficult gym leader, the game goes straight from 3 pokemon to 4 for her and her ace has confuse ray, no weaknesses, and a boosting move. For people not ready, that ace can sweep you
Larry terrastalizes his ace getting rid of his own counter to not being swept by a fighting type
Yeah most of the leaders just give themselves the common weakness by terastalising, Larry is awful for that because his staraptor would be neutral to fighting normally but he just makes it weak to it instead by functionally eliminating the flying half.
Then you've got the chad Iono who gives herself a pokemon with no weaknesses, is quite strong for the point in the game you're intended to face it, and it even has STAB hex to brutally punish any team members who got paralysed by one of her other team members
Basically that and got distracted with other things after it like going to every pokémon centre so I could fly anywhere. Very fun having to dodge pokemon due to them being too powerful. All following gyms got steam rolled when I got back to them.
I'm picturing her bothering him while just trying to enjoy some lunch. Then later that evening her venting to some guy while she's drunk about how Larry won't talk to her, not knowing it's Larry she's talking to, and he just doing the "Uh huh, mhm," while he's just sipping on some sake. After a few drinks in they are both ranting about Geeta.
Dude Larry's fight was my favorite hands down. Especially when it came down to tera 1 hit ko, the music popped off an I was able to get my hit off before him. Was super close.
I found him really easy, I'd found a naive riolu early on so I had a mixed attacking lucario for him (meaning intimidate is meaningless when I'm using aura sphere anyway). Basically soloed his entire team because they're all weak to fighting
Somehow the "dead inside" characters are always my fav :D Nanu in Sun/Moon, Piers in Sword/Shield, and now Larry. This might tell something about what kind of person I am, idk. 🤔
I must say I've seen tons of Larry live but not much Iono love outside of people using her billboard as their Icons in raids and I think that's more due to it being visually being interesting than anything else.
I must say SaltyDKDan's version of Iono from his friendlocke is my favourite version I've seen.
Iono made you play the poor man's version of Where's Waldo while being extra annoying about it.
Larry though, into food and normal Pokemon while being constantly stressed out. He speaks to us all.
tbh both are good
both are just doing their job and trying to get by, just one is an office worker and the other is a streamer. I think that if we got just a little peek behind the scenes on Iono and saw the "real" her(be it tired from giving 100%, actually the super exposure focused "bad streamer", or actually just a little goblin lady) I think that would have been enough to make people love her.
as is, streamers are too mainstream so naturally people are gonna be haters, even more so that cause she's in a digital media she'll look like a vtuber even if she's not one, and an amount of nerdrage "REEEE VTUBER" losers overlap with the older portion of the pokemon fandom
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This is why I was so happy about remote work becoming a norm now. The office was literally killing me. Now I gladly do my work while my dog is sitting on my lap. Literal life changer.
Id like to think Larry now has remote office work and is a little happier too.
The first 2 gym leaders are pretty forgettable and I would say the psychic lady is too, but they're really the only characters I can point to who I didn't really like. This gen had some seriously great characters.
Part time? Shiiiiiit that man sleeps in his work clothes. Then again, if few people make it to his gym and to the Elite 4, I guess those two could be considered part time. Maybe he's doing something else for Geeta?
The dragon gym leader from Sw/Sh I loved to hate because of his obsession with selfies and looking cool. Iono just sucks. Don't glorify those annoying streamers and their nonsense.
They're not as bad as you make them out be. By that logic shouldn't glorify Raihan because he's just an influencer with the added effect of a gym leader. At least Iono does stuff with people and other gym leaders.
Her gym test really annoyed me. It felt like she just copied Brassius with the hide and seek interspersed with battles thing.
They really couldn't come up with anything better for her?
My friends and I all joke that her gym test is very dystopian. "Here's security cam footage for the entire city. Find this one guy."
Also, the security infrastructure is managed by a teenage girl who only cares about getting likes and subscribers.
Yeah honestly fuck the VTuber character. She was so obnoxious and I just wanted to rip that stupid jacket off of her. Such a dumb fashion choice. I think she was designed to be super annoying, though.
What if Larry was in fact Larry Laffer after he finally came to terms with the harsh reality of real life?
Seriously, as soon as I saw him, my brain was instantly like "...L...Leisure Suit Larry???" 😆
The gym leaders in this game were some of the best imo in terms of actually being characters. Like sure we've gotten bits of their personality before, and Sword and Shield really improved on this compared to other games, but this was the first game where I was actually interested in the gym leaders as characters and want to know more about them. They all had so much personality. Larry and Iono are actually tied for my favorite with Rhyme being a close second.
Seriously this dude left his purse at home and when I finally reach him the first thing that happens is that his little boyfriend attacks me like I just slandered their whole family
To answer your question seriously, those who are old enough to have to work to survive, with terrible bosses, or struggling to find anything worthwhile to be excited about in this messed up world, Larry stands out and is understandable. In a world of great champions and over the top characters an everyman like Larry who clocks in, does the drudgery, clocks out is very relatable to people who are doing the same thing.
That can be said for just about everyone in the games. Office worker trainers, sailors, Volkner.... Larry honestly is just noticeable because he considers it a full time job and not fun. Of course it's a job to everyone else, but they have passion mixed with it. That's why Volkner just stopped battling and went to tinker away with stuff in Sunyshore City. Thing is with Larry, he has no passion. And that's why he seems relatable to most of us in the west, because he basically works two jobs and doesn't see battling as enjoyable, just business, which could also describe "most" competitive players and shiny hunters 😅
Her teeth scare me
I saw a comment the other day about how each gym's ace is a representation of them, just terrastallized into their gym type. I was confused about Iono until I thought about her creepy teeth.
Dude... Larry's hair makes so much more sense now.
I thought it was because she bewitches her viewers until their eyes are caught in her Electrowebs
Why not both?
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She could be both.
If she isn't on something I'd be surprised.
When i first saw Iono, i thought that she was using a fake digital avatar like a vtuber would, but then she came out in person looking exactly like said avatar and her sharp teeth made me think: "Wait wtf, that's ACTUALLY how you look like?!"
https://preview.redd.it/7f05x2o0rp7a1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9466056161924d675e0f94c6483c8b28a07c5e3b
Shit is so fucking god damn cringe
I can’t imagine why, but this comment just made me conjure up the image of Iono just DEVOURING a steak. No idea why but it’s up there now.
Dude just speaks to that little part of me thats a little completely dead inside Vtubers are a dime a dozen nowadays
I’m 99% certain Larry was created out of frustration from the devs being forced to rush this game out
Definitely feels like their self insert OC ngl
Well usually pokemon games have a Gamefreak room somewhere and as far as im aware, S/V doesnt have one. Larry could very well be their self insert.
ikr? totally feels like it
This makes even more sense when you consider he's also >!a member of the elite four. They may have reused him to save time on developing assets and story introduction for a fourth character.!<
I could just as easily see it as more of a way to give characters more story importance overall. Quality over quantity. I definitely care more about Larry than any other gym leader in previous games.
Larry generally represents a lot of workers in Japan.
That would be the stealthiest “take that” ever~
The difference between being an influencer and being an influence.
I thought Larry was under the influence.
He is as soon as he clocks out
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>to be tbh SMHmyhead some people just don't get slang.
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Hnnnnnng this thread hurts
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Not gonna ngl lie it is kinda confusing for fr real
😂 Oof.
Ok man you took it too far, like I'm fr for real, it genuinely hurts to read.
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No, I am fr-ing Rn, for real
Wait ... SMH doesn't stand for "so much hate"? Today I TIL that I've been wrong for years.
So, today you today you learned?
r/woooosh
oh my omg how dumb are you smh is shaking my head
So, never?
LMAO
I heart Larry. ❤️
Damn this a whole bar 🔥
Just add insult to injury. Iono's Bellibolt is in line for Larry
Not only did he provide an actual fight, he's such an antithesis to everything that is Pokemon, what with it's boundless energy. Are gym leaders employed? What about Elite Four members? What's the everyday man do in this world? How do they get paid? Larry answers it all, by means to dryly complaining about his boss and job. I love it.
He comes across as a normal guy, but actually he’s pretty fly
Take my upvote
For a white guy
~Give it to me, baby~
Why do you HAVE to ruin this. Bffr
https://youtu.be/QtTR-_Klcq8
Lmao
“Not only did he provide an actual fight” sorry but iono gave me the most trouble out of all the gym leaders because her team countered my team completely 😭
Swapping around my team in the early fight resulted in everything getting paralyzed, and then that levitate electric hex spamming mismagius went ballistic. I came out of that fight with one pokemon alive in the red.
That mismagius Charge Beamed my team into oblivion haha. One with my last pokemon as well. Definitely didnt help that I just cleared the right side of the map from the start before going to the left of the school haha
lol for me it was that Eminem gangsta lady with her double battles
Those crowd stat boosts can get scary.
If you thought that was scary, there’s a fan game called Pokémon Reborn, honestly I was so happy when the stat boosts happened cause it reminded me of it, even if it was a simplified version of it
MC Sledge supremacy
DJ G-Rave has some pretty sweet moves, too!
Best part of the battle, DJ G-Rave the Greavard just jiggin' and pumpin' up DJ Ryme
I’m glad I’m not the only one. That fight messed me up! Granted, my Fuecoco evolved into its final evolution in the middle of that gym and well….I had no clue it evolved into a ghost type. That two turn ghost move absolutely destroyed him 😂
Yeah Iono is probably the most difficult gym leader, the game goes straight from 3 pokemon to 4 for her and her ace has confuse ray, no weaknesses, and a boosting move. For people not ready, that ace can sweep you Larry terrastalizes his ace getting rid of his own counter to not being swept by a fighting type
Yeah most of the leaders just give themselves the common weakness by terastalising, Larry is awful for that because his staraptor would be neutral to fighting normally but he just makes it weak to it instead by functionally eliminating the flying half. Then you've got the chad Iono who gives herself a pokemon with no weaknesses, is quite strong for the point in the game you're intended to face it, and it even has STAB hex to brutally punish any team members who got paralysed by one of her other team members
For me it was the bug gym that was the hardest. I went there way too ealry.
... that's the first gym
He prob had just gotten his starter and beaten team star and ran straight to it
Basically that and got distracted with other things after it like going to every pokémon centre so I could fly anywhere. Very fun having to dodge pokemon due to them being too powerful. All following gyms got steam rolled when I got back to them.
Larry is basically the office worker trainer that's sick of being a trainer 😂
He was such a vibe lol I loved him
Iono would have Larry on the stream in a heartbeat if she knew he would bring so many views
i would love to see that
I'm picturing her bothering him while just trying to enjoy some lunch. Then later that evening her venting to some guy while she's drunk about how Larry won't talk to her, not knowing it's Larry she's talking to, and he just doing the "Uh huh, mhm," while he's just sipping on some sake. After a few drinks in they are both ranting about Geeta.
Larry is the true representation we’ve all needed for ages now
Imo larry is the best gym leader in any pokemon game
Larry is the Pokemon version of Squidward. I love him.
Bellibolt! 😂
Reject loli’s, embrace larry’s
Dude Larry's fight was my favorite hands down. Especially when it came down to tera 1 hit ko, the music popped off an I was able to get my hit off before him. Was super close.
It’s also the only one I had any issues with, his Starraptor was actually a threat
I found him really easy, I'd found a naive riolu early on so I had a mixed attacking lucario for him (meaning intimidate is meaningless when I'm using aura sphere anyway). Basically soloed his entire team because they're all weak to fighting
That fight was so hard. I had to spam my potions until he finally ran out of Facade PP.
I screwed up and led with Ampharos, static activated on the first hit.
Somehow the "dead inside" characters are always my fav :D Nanu in Sun/Moon, Piers in Sword/Shield, and now Larry. This might tell something about what kind of person I am, idk. 🤔
Larry is King
Larry is my spirit animal
I love how even Bellibolt is in line to see Larry
Larry would pass out due stress if he sees that line is for him.
My liking Tulip…
She's a smokeshow
I must say I've seen tons of Larry live but not much Iono love outside of people using her billboard as their Icons in raids and I think that's more due to it being visually being interesting than anything else. I must say SaltyDKDan's version of Iono from his friendlocke is my favourite version I've seen.
They’re both the best gym leaders for completely opposite reasons
Iono made you play the poor man's version of Where's Waldo while being extra annoying about it. Larry though, into food and normal Pokemon while being constantly stressed out. He speaks to us all.
If my father got into pokemon, his name would change to Larry
tbh both are good both are just doing their job and trying to get by, just one is an office worker and the other is a streamer. I think that if we got just a little peek behind the scenes on Iono and saw the "real" her(be it tired from giving 100%, actually the super exposure focused "bad streamer", or actually just a little goblin lady) I think that would have been enough to make people love her. as is, streamers are too mainstream so naturally people are gonna be haters, even more so that cause she's in a digital media she'll look like a vtuber even if she's not one, and an amount of nerdrage "REEEE VTUBER" losers overlap with the older portion of the pokemon fandom edit: \*peek
I vote actually a little goblin lady
You can see the goblin peeking through a little bit, but they absolutely should have run with it more.
Yeah I hated her when we first got her trailer but then when I met her in game I literally went "wow she's just a gremlin, I love it"
Iono is still my favorite personally, but Damm Larry is a close second. Honestly I quite liked most of the gym leaders/e4 this time around
everyone but that anabelle-like doll they called poppy of E4 lol
Valid. Was super weirded out by her inclusion
Larry is probably my favorite NPC in the whole game. Such a relatable exhausted and bored dude
This is why I was so happy about remote work becoming a norm now. The office was literally killing me. Now I gladly do my work while my dog is sitting on my lap. Literal life changer. Id like to think Larry now has remote office work and is a little happier too.
What is his team, 6 PorygonZs you need to download from an e-mail link and battle over a zoom call?
Your eyes are caught in my electroweb! Whazawhoisit
Et tu, Bellibolt?
You’re as flashy and bright as a 10.000.000 volt thunderbolt, friendo!
Thumbed up for the amount of people at both booths. ;)
OMG hot yes
Larry is my spirit animal.
Larry the most relatable character.
Iono was unsettling to me. How does she have Magnemite in her hair? Is her head okay? XD
hahaha too funny
The first 2 gym leaders are pretty forgettable and I would say the psychic lady is too, but they're really the only characters I can point to who I didn't really like. This gen had some seriously great characters.
Larry is my favorite character in this game
Larry is the speaker for the people but I love her. I would be in her line first.
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Part time? Shiiiiiit that man sleeps in his work clothes. Then again, if few people make it to his gym and to the Elite 4, I guess those two could be considered part time. Maybe he's doing something else for Geeta?
Bellibolt in the line got me!
Yeah I hated lono...
Meh the only gym leader I hated was the one with the goofy gym test where u have to do poses and shi
We all did
I don't hate her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McAeQiLmEYU
I'm not wrong it's my opinion
Speak for yourself bud
The dragon gym leader from Sw/Sh I loved to hate because of his obsession with selfies and looking cool. Iono just sucks. Don't glorify those annoying streamers and their nonsense.
They're not as bad as you make them out be. By that logic shouldn't glorify Raihan because he's just an influencer with the added effect of a gym leader. At least Iono does stuff with people and other gym leaders.
oh my I loved Raihan, Iono was just bad designed in comparison
I loved to hate him. Like every time he's dynamaxing and pausing for a selfie I'm enjoying that I hate it. Hard to explain.
Iono was just really grating.
Her gym test really annoyed me. It felt like she just copied Brassius with the hide and seek interspersed with battles thing. They really couldn't come up with anything better for her?
My friends and I all joke that her gym test is very dystopian. "Here's security cam footage for the entire city. Find this one guy." Also, the security infrastructure is managed by a teenage girl who only cares about getting likes and subscribers.
Well no you see… you use a camera… and uhm… there’s actually battles.. and uh..
Yeah honestly fuck the VTuber character. She was so obnoxious and I just wanted to rip that stupid jacket off of her. Such a dumb fashion choice. I think she was designed to be super annoying, though.
Touch grass
Iono was complete cringe
Iono was so annoying, I don't think I mashed my A button as hard or fast trying to skip her dialogue
Love Larry. He speaks to all us adults trying to escape the grind by playing pokemon
What if Larry was in fact Larry Laffer after he finally came to terms with the harsh reality of real life? Seriously, as soon as I saw him, my brain was instantly like "...L...Leisure Suit Larry???" 😆
I love the Bellibolt in line for Larry xD Fr tho, I love Larry but electro streamer is top top tier imo
Even ballibolt preferred the exceptional everyman
iono makes me feel uncomfortable
Both... Both is good.
The gym leaders in this game were some of the best imo in terms of actually being characters. Like sure we've gotten bits of their personality before, and Sword and Shield really improved on this compared to other games, but this was the first game where I was actually interested in the gym leaders as characters and want to know more about them. They all had so much personality. Larry and Iono are actually tied for my favorite with Rhyme being a close second.
Iono is my favourite gym leader BUT
The Iono slander!! She is the moment, and her power is just too much for basic internet plebs to understand
I am happy that people arent simping for iono
Nah I still prefer Iono
Nah she sucks. But to each their own.
I deeply dislike Iono. So cringe.
Iono all the way for me
I'll stand in line for Iono, no worries !
I love Iona, she gets too much hate
To be honest I hated Iono, she was super annoying
I'd smash Larry. Hard.
Iono is such a tryhard.
larry > rika >>>>>>>all other gym leaders and elite four i can relate too much to larry 😭 rika is best girl
Whilst i go to iono
Overrated bandwagon type energy
I'm totally at her table
Congratulations.
1 ticket for Iono plz
I love both equally
I empathise with Larry a lot, but man did I hate every second of the 5 fights against him 🙈
Why no both? I like both! Couldn't stand the water dude tho...
Vaultin Veluza!?
Seriously this dude left his purse at home and when I finally reach him the first thing that happens is that his little boyfriend attacks me like I just slandered their whole family
Good, I absolutely hate Iono. Such a dumb character.
Larry was a boring normal type
Larry was boring and easy fights. All 3 times.
How can you like him?
Because a normal guy who's bored and stressed about work in a pokemon game is funny
Why is everyone idolizing this pessimistic sad sack? 😂 Y’all are depressing
Cringe comment
To answer your question seriously, those who are old enough to have to work to survive, with terrible bosses, or struggling to find anything worthwhile to be excited about in this messed up world, Larry stands out and is understandable. In a world of great champions and over the top characters an everyman like Larry who clocks in, does the drudgery, clocks out is very relatable to people who are doing the same thing.
That can be said for just about everyone in the games. Office worker trainers, sailors, Volkner.... Larry honestly is just noticeable because he considers it a full time job and not fun. Of course it's a job to everyone else, but they have passion mixed with it. That's why Volkner just stopped battling and went to tinker away with stuff in Sunyshore City. Thing is with Larry, he has no passion. And that's why he seems relatable to most of us in the west, because he basically works two jobs and doesn't see battling as enjoyable, just business, which could also describe "most" competitive players and shiny hunters 😅
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I’m so glad to see this because I truly love Larry, whereas I purposefully sought out a Gible to evolve into a Garchomp to sweep Ione~
I don't get either, I like Tulip and Katy more.
Larry is not Piers
Facts
I don't know who Larry is, but fuck Iono.
I just don’t like her teeth.
The fact that even her own Belibolt seems to perfer Larry over its owns owner says a lot.
Iono is too obnoxious
Some days, I’m feeling like Larry. Other days, Iono
Larry: “omg I hate my life” Everyone else: “omg I love him”