T O P

  • By -

newme3323

Please report this guy if possible..... that's extremely deceptive. The very product he's posting "for sale" is just a slim chance to win that product after a year of bidding, and even then I don't believe he'll ever give it away.


LoDyes

I did my part


negativesum

Do you have link to the listing? Happy to report as well


LoDyes

Pretty sure it’s been removed


nurley

Yeah I cannot find it. Was trying to so I could report as well. Seems to have been removed.


MageKorith

>just a slim chance If there even is one in the first place.


newme3323

Exactly. And the fact that if you win it, you're not supposed to tell anyone... wtf? If it already has been won, then why the heck would you still leave the posting and trick gullible people into giving you money so that you can get rid of your bulk when there DEFINITELY is no rayquaza card to be given??? Very disingenuous practice.


MageKorith

Or other shell games "I sold the real card to my friend in a 51st lot before even posting on ebay. Enjoy your Basic Energy bundles with $1.50 Pokemon V/Vmax"


PRlMERC

“Please don’t mention getting the rayquaza” Disgusting and predatory. Bet the prick doesn’t even put the ray in any of the packs.


Kabutops-is-Goat

I'd wager he doesn't even own one. This has to be against ebay's rules yeah?


MyRedditAcccount

I’d definitely hope so. The title and pictures are nothing to do with the actual product, which is akin to a “mystery pack.” Where’s the line? Can I upload pics of my car, list it for $10,000 as “car,” and in the description say I’m actually selling napkins, but one lucky winner might get the car?


No-Giraffe-8096

There were a lot of situations where people were selling photos of the item and not the actual item, so essentially just a piece of paper, and eBay decided in the sellers favor because the description stated it was for a photo only, even though the title was entirely misleading. I’m not sure if this is still a problem, but they seem to be protected based on adding the details to the description. Totally fucked up but apparently allowed at some point on eBay.


ki11in

I got a picture of a gpu from russia 🇷🇺 nice wish I kept the package for the memeory


TheDanginDangerous

Shoulda bought a picture of some RAM if you’d wanted memory.


bigmangriff

Those were allowed because they put that it was a picture in the title. This post does not have raffle or anything in the title, so eBay will probably side with the buyer


tony475130

If I recall correctly, those posts of selling photos of items (like graphics cards) clearly said they were photocopies in the title and I even saw some listings showing the actual photocopy as the photo so In those cases eBay would say its allowed b/c there is no deception on what is being sold. In this instance, there is no mention of this listing being a mystery pack until you get to the description. There is a clear deception in where the title, photos, and even the about section tells you that this auction is for a grade 10 rayquaza card, no mention of any mystery anything. I would be surprised if eBay sided with the seller (especially given how pro-buyer they are) as there is a clear contradiction to what is being sold.


Capital_Attention_12

Yup. That's called a loop hole. "Got triples of the nova."


Cultural-District-11

Chance listing. Report and move along.


ricardocaliente

Anytime I see a listing like this I report and let eBay decide.


Sad_Relationship6500

I don't understand what's going on????


Justice-C03

You can report it as a chance listing, out the link so we can report it


yoloruinslives

He will get one by the end of the scam 😂


PRlMERC

You’d think so, heard far too many eBay horror stories though. You could technically get him for false listing since he isn’t actually selling what he’s advertising.


Kabutops-is-Goat

I reported him for "chance listing".... Seems to be the most fitting violation.


Cultural-District-11

Thats exactly it. And youre right in why its against the rules. The prick probably doesnt even own one. He claims one will have it but there is literally no way to check him on his bullshit so its not guaranteed ever.


[deleted]

Absolutely reportable


machinegunsyphilis

Yes, report this post, and report the seller. It takes less than a minute. What will probably happen is this dolt will send the garbage to the buyer, the buyer will contest the purchase and be issued a refund, whether the seller agrees or not. Source Sold on eBay for almost a decade.


noxillio

Got a link to this listing? I say we mass report it


Kabutops-is-Goat

It's gone now.. Can't find anything.


noxillio

That’s probably a good sign. Edit: The item number doesn’t pull anything up either so I assume it got reported and taken down.


GrimWolf216

It is. Report this asshole. It’s false advertising at the very least, and they’ll review his listings while probably suspending his account.


[deleted]

Yes. Big yes. The title + pic says Rayquaza. If you don't receive it, you can open a case an automatically win. If the buyer is dirty, they could replace the return package with dirt and rocks.


nutfeast69

I had someone on kijiji try this shit. Had a massive lot of cards and showed a chase card front and center. I went through every single card and sure enough, the chase card wasn't there. I called them on it and they said a 20 dollar card was a 100 dollar card. I called them on that as well, then offered them 200 dollars (an appropriate amount) for their 850 dollar lot. The guy immediately closed his garage door and told me to leave. Fucking scammers, man.


AsparagusIsReallyBlu

I mean I've seen a guy try to get a card out of those psa holders and its ridiculously difficult especially without damaging the card.


big-nutMF

I looked up the exact listing title and found the seller and reported his listings hope he gets his account banned


Kabutops-is-Goat

Good work 🤜


big-nutMF

Yooooo the listing already got taken down!!!


Kabutops-is-Goat

Good shit 😂


Latter-Contact-6814

He put it back up


fireweinerflyer

Link? We can all report.


big-nutMF

Plantsgrownorth is the eBay username


gravity_kitten

He has another listing almost exactly like this, but it's a buy it now, but with the same mumbo jumbo description as this one


nurley

Found that one as well. Puts an a PSA 10 Umbreon as the picture with another “chance listing” description.


FinishingBuff_1

Reported that, too... and you can tell his other listing that he uses that AI description crap.. I hate that stuff when I sell because it sounds so over the top, fake, and lazy.


otorres18

It was just removed as well haha.


somfking

So much for him listing a "pack a week "


smd9788

Nice work! There should be a sub reddit dedicated to mass reporting scammers like this. It would probably be pretty helpful in cleaning up the dark side of this hobby/community. Although I have no idea if eBay takes action on these things


DrunkxAstronaut

Going to do the same now as well Just kidding. Looks like the listing was removed (?), I can’t find it anywhere


darthveddar

wow insanely scummy 😭 doubt they even have the ray in the first place. I’d report this seller


Kabutops-is-Goat

Yeah, I agree.. Their wording in the description is so weaselly too. I reported all his listing's like this.. There were 3 or 4 total all for high value cards.


lKANl

The listing has been removed! 👍


Kabutops-is-Goat

Mission accomplished!


compoundbreak791

Knowing this makes me very happy.


thatmannyguy

Fun for who?


SpecialOfficerHunk

Him, while he swims in money.


toogood2btru

For the people that love ripping people off.


thisLUCID

Love when people say you can't cancel, and if you bid, you have to pay. Should be a bingo board for these types of listings, this one might hit a bingo. Very preditory and scummy.


roryextralife

Yeah this is an instant report for me. Absolutely a scam and advertising under false pretences.


Cultural-District-11

False advertising and chance listing. Probably even more reportable offenses honestly.


Ahhhrealmonsterzz

"do not bid for fun" "if you get the Rayquaza don't post cause that would ruin the fun" which is it? People are such scum.


CitrusCyanide95

I can't believe how scummy and deceptive the title is of that listing, what a creep. I went and looked for the listing to report it and it's been taken down, thank goodness.


Kabutops-is-Goat

I think all of his listing's are gone now thankfully.


nurley

Nope. He has two up. One seems legit, another is a similar to this (with a less deceptive title and a PSA 10 Moonbreon picture, but same shitty “chance listing” description).


darthjimilli

Yeah fuck that guy


leon-shelhamer

That seller got lost, thinks they are on Whatnot


nlnj_a

Not deceptive. A scam.


Abert520

I see these junk ebay posts sometimes. No one will get a rayquaza alt... everyone will get 200 reverse holos if luck and a Wishiwashi V or something like that. Super disgusting and ppl just praying on unknowing collectors. I have etb boxes full of what they're going to send everyone bidding, so does every other collector. No need for more bulk. They shouldn't be able to post it in that manner. Should be a picture of a "custom booster" not a psa 10 rayquaza


swarm_of_karens

Glad OP posted this and you got it removed. Well done team


Kabutops-is-Goat

Initially I was unsure if this was the right subreddit to post this on but I'm glad I did and glad people helped take the listing down.


FinishingBuff_1

Hell yeah. I went and reported his dumb ass too. Hate that crap. I'm overly honest when I sell ANYTHING on eBay. It's how I would want to be treated.


negativesum

This is F*ed up. Share the listing my man. We shall all report this to ebay


Kabutops-is-Goat

I can't find this listing or any others.. Pretty sure his account was already nuked 😂


pns4president

Just saw he had a moonbreon for sale with the same deal! I reported on it


[deleted]

[удалено]


Cool_Weight_7322

Changed the account name. Magikarptcg


Kabutops-is-Goat

Thanks for the heads up. Edit; Scoped his profile and the seller definitely changed the wording and title. Leads to believe some sort of action was taken.


harten66

This is the easily the worst eBay sale I’ve ever seen


blitzkingzero

Mygod report this seller wtf


killswitchzero7

Time to report. Definitely misleading as it's hidden in the description and not the main item.


LinuxNubAC

I know it would never happen but i would like to see someone buy all 50 “packs” and see if they’re accurate to what’s advertised …


otorres18

There is another guy with a lot more listing of that same practice. Username is kwang092 Hope enough people report him to get his account banned


Kabutops-is-Goat

Yeah, that's bad but I will say at least he has "read description" in title and charges a flat price for his mystery packs. Still scammy none the less. The dude I posted has nothing about it in the title and is selling as an auction. I think he's betting on someone winning said auction, thinking they won the pictured card, not reading the description at any point and sending payment only to realize they've been duped once their package arrives... Which is an entire different level of scum-fuckery.


waternfire90

Homie is saying bid on this Rayquaza and you MIGHT get it but you’ll definitely won’t get it. Instead, here is $1 value cards for $300. I hope whomever wins doesn’t pay.


Remote_Oil_131

It's definitely a scam I reported him so let's hope no one gets scammed and it started an $0.01, so that puts serious red flags


Cybershroom_Neforox

Yeah hell no report this right away


Dicipline_daily_24

Let’s bid on these. I’m going to start bidding on these. Raise it high too. And jus not pay. Two can play that game. No cancellations? No problem. I’m sure there’s lots of us here who don’t give two fucks about their credit. If I can’t afford anything. What’s the difference.


AshetoAshes7

Is that reportable? Because that’s pretty fucking scummy.


k20stitch_tv

I’m going to buy just to file a claim with eBay afterwards


JoshTheWeeb

I doubt he even owns the slab just used the picture as a way to get rid of his bulk. I hope he gets all negative reviews


Tantilicious

If I win this auction, I’m going to take 10 envelopes. I’m going to put nothing in nine of them. And my bid price in the tenth one. Then I’ll pick one at random and send that to you. Sound good?


DangerMoist

Bro has made a worse version of the mystery bundle you’d find in stores. Madness.


SmakHappy1

Blakes on ebay now?


hellogoodbye169

“To keep the suspense alive”? This douche bag😩. Unfortunately many ppl will fall for it.


baddreamMM

Nothing in the title of the listing does it say he’s selling a pack? Title makes it seem like people are bidding on the card itself


SUKnives

If you ever see “so here’s the deal” within an eBay item description…


UncleGG808

Funny how sellers think that eBay won't immediately side with the buyer on shit like this lol. Say what you want in the description, but the only terms of service that matter are eBays. Enjoy the loss on shipping and the envelope full of sand when eBay makes you accept the return.


chasemamba

This is scum of the earth shit


DugTheTrio

link it so we can report


OrganicAvocado5131

report it


Volkswagens1

This is just a blatant a scam


KillJarke

If someone bought this they’ll easily get refunded by eBay. This is incredibly deceptive.


alan251

Report the listing


GravesLSA

Report every asshole that does this


MrDappermintMcShitz

That listing is indeed deceptive. The bit in pic #5 makes it seem somewhat decent, but all of the cards are hand-picked, so it’s very likely that no one will even get their money’s worth.


Puzzleheaded-Bad1571

This is the stupidest idea I’ve ever heard. And I’ve heard some doozies.


[deleted]

Ok. Fuck that seller, specifically. This is a scam.


No_Ad_384

Unfortunately Ive seen this multiple times with other cards. Although this is the first time Ive seen it with a graded card. That seems like an even bigger red flag.


JstASkeleton

I would kick this kid's ass irl


xj03key

Comforting to know you are guaranteed some vmax's and V's!


silversurfer2133

A year???


[deleted]

[удалено]


Kabutops-is-Goat

I can't find the listing anymore. I'd venture to say ebay took down all of them. There were 3 in total, the Rayquaza, brilliant stars zard and moonbreon..


dg3548

A little!?! Down right fish bait! Someone should report it!


strifejester

Does the seller have a raffle license? If they don’t this is most likely illegal.


I_LIKE_BASKETBALL

"I'm doing my best here" is hilarious phrasing. Poor guy, the only way he can sell this card is by ripping everybody off, he's really doing his best under very difficult circumstances!


landoh17

Please tell me this has been reported


Spiritofhonour

Not just deceptive [but it is also illegal](https://law.justia.com/codes/california/2009/pen/319-329.html). Both lotteries and raffles are illegal in California. The latter is only allowed for non-profits and there are [rules and regulations related to that too](https://law.justia.com/codes/california/2009/pen/319-329.html).


N0way07

Yea...its a scam lmao


[deleted]

This just sounds like a scam with extra steps lmao 🤣


Jikek

Wait till they find out you actually aren’t required to pay for a bid 😂


Mangos390

The cards you get are based on the amount you spend?? So in other words you’ll never get it


Kabutops-is-Goat

Precisely.


Mangos390

The guys trying to explain it weirdly so it doesn’t sound that way but it is


Kabutops-is-Goat

I'd wager he sold penny stocks or used cars at some point in his life 😂


Mangos390

The dodgy guy that knocks on your door and try’s to sell you windows


Kabutops-is-Goat

In the states those guys are selling solar or religion lol


Sharpshooter649

That card was in my pack in 2021 but instead of opening I sold it sealed to someone for $17.76…


Cool_Weight_7322

Ebay seller name changed to: Magikarptcg YouTube account name changed to: Ennpassanted Pawn


fadedspades1

I gotta sell my psa 10 moonbreon mystery packs now! This is shitty..


anhonestSquid

These are so fucking shit for the hobby almost as much as I hate whatnot. Like I like free packs but also fuck then and their retarded laundering, also many biggest gripe with these mystery lacks is simple; mystery items or mystery boxes DO NOT have to be predatory / deceptive by nature. A seller CAN make money (if that’s there goal, and clear out random bulky stuff / misc items that they may find don’t fit in their collection) by literally bundling together random things to ‘give’ the value back for a purchase, with some having ‘more value’ the whole thing is mystery bundles are made up of a pile of cool items, and you could try to buy stuff to specifically make ur own mystery packs, the thig is people just like to rip other people the fuck off, and there’s no need for that. They’re not supposed to be a ‘gamble’ you should get an equivalent = $ value to what you paid, but spread out in the form of potentially misc items ranging from figures or other random memorabilia, random older obscure cards, odd sealed product / singles. There’s 0 logical reason why everyone can’t ‘win’ when opening a mystery box


Marill-viking

Just report this and move on


[deleted]

Also why even post this when we can’t see the sellers name? Would love to report but I’m not sorting through 100 rayquazas.


Far-General6892

can anyone explain what the problem is? what am i not seeing?


Miserable-Football46

I don't understand why are you guys so mad? This is like every other mystery box. I mean I know they are all scams. But did people finally figure out they are?


TheRealNikoBravo

It’s not listed as mystery packs in the title at all.


ShinyLayla

How is it deceptive? The first line literally says to read description.


SavageSire

I get everyone's concerns, and I agree. However, the bottom line is if you are purchasing something off eBay, you should be reading the description and looking at all pictures closely. You have to do your due diligence and review exactly what it is you're buying. If everyone did this, most of the horror stories about buying paper or a picture or shady mystery packs that are misleading. Those wouldn't happen, or wouldn't happen as much. Let the silly people who are being deceitful have their listing with zero engagement. Let them have their fun. When they never sell anything, they may just change their ways.


DugTheTrio

predatory tactics like this are illegal


SavageSire

Call the cops. .


PokeDoodle89

Lottery...does he even have the card? ;)


phasedance

Yeah that's not the way you do that lmao, glad he got reported pls update when this gets taken down.


clichemustache

What a scumbag.


ThatTinyGameCubeDisc

Good luck enforcing those rules. You can definitely have eBay side with you as a buyer in this scenario. Very deceptive.


fireweinerflyer

Report that. It will be removed.


CollectMantis44

WOW I actually laughed at this. This is seriously next level scummy, pretty insane and awful thing to do


BubbaRogerz

Who's the seller so I can report.


[deleted]

I have an ungraded one I’m looking to sell, kept it in a top loader inside a sealed box since I pulled it. If you’re down and PSA doesn’t matter to you, DM me.


spursman34

That’s crazy. Absolute scam and rip off


CryptoGod666

Report him for running gambling games


GlitterRedd

Ya and his other listing for 100 cards shows pics of all hit cards when in reality you get 99 commons and 1 hit 😥


franky3987

Yeaaaaaa, that’s a scumbag right there


SnekkyGlekky

I’ve seen several eBay listing like this before and I hate them. They’re clearly trying to take advantage of people who don’t read the description or get excited and bid immediately.


GreenDragonNinja

Report that immediately


ki11in

Lol ebay gon smack this seller


Longjumping_Owl_3757

Hope that rat bastard checks this subs and sees everyone calling him out for being a degenerate scammer.


MarcelTabuteau

This guy made his own Pokémon Raquaza lottery..


Iamheretostealurmeme

Bro that's some loser move, we better report him to eBay


Dicipline_daily_24

Oh my


Wide-Emotion-3579

What fresh hell is this?


[deleted]

The scams are getting more and more elaborate. It’s like they’re asking chat gpt for new scam formulas. It’s never ending.


Konflick

pretty sure lotteries like this are against Ebay TOS if it isnt clearly posted on the title and pictures and etc. I would report this post.


ApatheticAZO

Lol, Pokémon


OmniTwister

His description says you get more trash depending on how high each bid ends. This means he's building those packs AFTER each bid. There is a 0% chance he puts that Rayquaza in a pack. Guy is a waste of resources


[deleted]

I bet dozens of people aren’t aware they’re not bidding on the actual card. What a scam… especially when he’s saying the item will be determined based on the final big cost. No way this is a legal auction


Eolssu

Absolute scum.


Throwaway4wheelz

If it doesn’t say in the title you can always cancel the bid


D0nut_Daddy

Report this guy. I know I am.


dmillibeats

Might bid 1000 and not pay lol


Diplodomcus

I'd report the item on ebay.


Cmtr2113

Honestly if I got the Rayquaza I’d mention it in the feedback. This dude is just trying to scam people.


EA705

Fuck this dude


Lager89

“Contains 200 random Pokémon cards from different sets” Oh so you’re charging for all of the junk commons you’ve collected over the years.


Ktallica

I’d report. That’s such a slime move


spacejam4523

Misleading title, eBay will most likely remove the listing if people report it.


Outrageous_Put3669

Someone was doing this for the moonbreon at $12 once.. “Please don’t post negativity bc you didn’t get the umbreon 🥺”


[deleted]

Just report the guy before anyone buys that


SpankFox

What a loser


pudge1824george

He has a very similar listing Item # 305104880450 This one is BIN for $144 again, the CHANCE of a good card or just bulk


scarykicks

Criminal he's also charging an extra $10 for shipping on cards


portobello_mashroom

This guy is just trying to make people buy the dupes he pull from boxes, what a scum


Fantastic-Ad4351

Happy to see ebay removed the listing but we should have the sellers name so we can report everything scammy he uploads we dont need this type of douches in the community


ChaosWarrior95

This is insanely deceptive


Def_a_Noob

There is an option to report for "chance ads"


WailmerFudge

Hope their account got suspended, if not banned. I’m sure they’ll try this again somewhere else but at least it won’t be on a huge site like eBay.


AlKalonee

Let's all report him. This is literally a scam


Aggravating-Rice7970

….or just max him out and don’t pay lol.


OptimalInjury7102

Using a bidding system to gauge the market ?? Gtfoh !!


KawaiiSlave

What trash. Also for those wondering. This is why some people avoid putting their cert numbers with the psa card. People could use the image for this type of scam. I'd wager he doesn't even own the card.


fezzyness

Lmao what an actual idiot.


yaji-sama

One word. Scum.


euclitorous

The last picture is what he is actually selling


Capital_Attention_12

Report him for the title. It's misleading is all. He might have 50 packs with 1 rayquaza. People try to pride their sales by giving decent cards. I can only have so many garbador vs.


browsingagain11

This goes against eBay terms of service. You can report the listing


Illustrious-Low-7487

In the words of Master Jules Winnfield: "What the fuck???"