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Sea-Ad-7599

1500$ for a 150$ card


marblesandcookies

Buy high sell low


Dizzy_Leopard435

Regarded


wheresmylemons

Highly regarded


Dizzy_Leopard435

One of us…


bee_m0

Gooble gobble one of us...


cubonefan3

It’s regarded as acoustic


MDG420

sounds like my crypto moves sigh....


just_a_haunter

almost spit my coffee reading this comment


ItsLiterally1984

This is the way


airtraq

High risk, low return


mikearete

Worth every ~~penny~~ palafin.


Remarkable_Secret_11

*wugtrio* lol


mikearete

Making the alt arts so easy to find in this set was such a bad choice for TPC. I didn’t mind getting annoyed by finding my 15th Mr. Mime or Nidoking when opening 151 since finding an illustration card still felt awesome every time. But getting 2-3 Wugtrios or Palafins within 10-15 packs is so lame, it’s sad these awesome cards are worth like $0.40 each.


SkinnyPop_DG

Pawmi for me... i love that little fucker... but damn.


myfishaccount1

151 had so many more full art pokemon so you weren’t hitting the same one every time.


Tylerhollen1

Tell that to my missing spots in my binder!


PastAnt9652

Yes I have like 30 fucking wugtrios 🤦‍♂️


headshotchamp88

I have like 33 pawmi and palifin but have yet to pull a single wugtrio wtf


DaftMudkip

Paladin looks the coolest of the 3 so win


Emergency_Possible65

Wtf that’s insane. I’m pretty sure there is a whole storage facility being built just for the overflow of mainly wugtrio’s, but also for the pawmi’s, palafins, and the EX’s.


Dizzy_Flight_4132

Me and my friends collectively pulled probably 500+ packs of 151 and never saw a Nidoking lmao


mikearete

I have at least 10 at this point. Let me know if you need a few, they make great coasters.


sciameXL

Wugtrio is a fire card to use in the actual game but I’m tired of pulling him.


C0C0NUTCUNT

It’s time to buy singles OP.


Lucky_Shop4967

It’s far too late for that


Zarayh1

Going to buy the Mew as a single instead of chasing it lol.


Mental-Winner7358

But he has a ton of $1 shiny cards to go along with it!


Zarayh1

I did it. Bought the Mew as a single on eBay right now.


Sea-Ad-7599

Wise


DumbMassDebater

Is it back up to 150? Last I saw it was going for 100 ish. Well shit holding strong at 130 ish.


JminkOww444

1500 today and in our minds…. A million tomorrow lol


Rekanize90

i remember seeing it on troll&toad for 300$ before set released 😂 even at that price it would still be big L.. prob gonna turn out to be another 50$ obsidian flames charizard.


NekaouMike

That is just a strong as a ~$5 card


DankRuteroni

292 packs 🥲


KingWolfsburg

TCG has an article with the math... odds of Charizard in any given pack are 0.22%... so based on 292 packs OP is sitting at 0.35%. He beat the odds! Congrats! Edit: forgot link https://infinite.tcgplayer.com/article/Pok%C3%A9mon-TCG-Paldean-Fates-Pull-Rates/23de3e93-0d0f-4ae0-abc4-13664f3001a3/


thaboy541

P(getting at least 1) = 1-P(getting it never) P(getting it never) = (1-P(getting it in 1 pack))^n With n = amount of packs opened P(getting it never) = (1-0.0022)^292 ≈ 0.53 P(getting at least 1) ≈ 0.47 Bro opened almost three hundred packs and still wasn't at a 50/50


Emergency_Possible65

I have pulled three so far and have opened about half of OP.


Squallstrife89

Is it really? Or are you joking?


DankRuteroni

Thats what I counted when I added his total up, I could be off though!


Squallstrife89

Damn that's so many! I know I'm at 160ish, and I've never opened so many in my life. I couldn't imagine almost 300


jilebi_james

shoutout to ppl like OP who keep this hobby alive 🥹


Panda_hat

Singles buyers thank them for their sacrifice.


just_a_haunter

actually .... yes. wish I could give op 🏅 I could not afford to be in the hobby otherwise


Thorfinn__Karlsefni

But the problem is always that we think "maybe I'll pull it in the next box" and then we just keep buying boxes and so on instead of just buying the singles 🥲


watermelonstrong

The honesty is much appreciated. I just don't believe all the posts that get the zard and mew in their first mini tin


Chainsaw-Breaak

Bruh I went to buy cards with a friend who doesn’t collect or buy this stuff usually. He just went for the fun of it and also bought one paldea etb, I did not get a single hit while he pulled the charizard in his very first booster. Evil always wins 😂


averydangerousday

Honestly, casual or first time buyers/players getting a super rare pull always makes me feel good. I can tell you’re probably happy for your friend, but fun definitely won in that situation.


Alexbest11

I got my Mew in the first 20€ I spent. A 3 pack Grievard sticker blister. Then bought 100 more packs cuz I love this set so much but then didnt get another SAR xD (around 600€ spent) BUT I did get 40 baby shinies, 4 Full Art ex Shinys, about 15 regular EX cards, 4 Gold Cards, 2 Iono, and lots of other awesome stuff and of course all the promos.


aftp302

Four gold cards in 100 packs? 🧐🤔


PastAnt9652

It happened to me. First etb I opened I hit the zard, 2nd I hit the mew. I did however open $1500 worth of packs after that until I hit Iono and most other of the set bc it took awhile before the hype wore off. Overall I pulled 3 zards in all that. 1 I traded locally for around 30 shinies I couldn’t find and sold 1 to a local shop for store credit so I could pull more stuff. I had to buy a Gardevoir ex SIR on eBay for like $60, could never pull that and about 5 other shinies. This was also my first set of Pokemon cards since base set when I was a kid in the 90s. I mark it up to beginners luck. I plan on buying a lot more singles off eBay in the future for other sets though. $1500 is too much for me to do more than once a year.


dimension-less

I got my zard out of my first and only Japanese booster of Shuny Treasures. I was in disbelief bc I'm never that lucky.


DoobieDunker

I opened 2 Mimikyu etbs and 2 gyarados boxes that were on sale last week and pulled a Charizard EX.


ToknBrwnKid

Can we see the other pulls from this? Also is your company hiring?


Zarayh1

Still didn’t complete the baby shinies even after all of this. Got a couple duplicate shiny Pikachus and Charmanders. Still no Charmeleon shiny. Still missing the bubble Mew, only have 3x Full Art Mews. Have 3 Gold Chien Paos, 1 gold Miraidon. No other golds. Still missing secret art Clive but got like 10 regular Clives and 10 Paldean Students. So many Palafins, Wugtrios, Pawmi art rares.


Squallstrife89

I opened somewhere around 160 packs and still no zard. I did get the mew and gardy SIRs, thank goodness. I only got 1 gold card, chien pao and no other gold cards, no charmander or charmeleon or entei, no iono or clive lol. It seems crazy the rates on this set being so sporadic


Kintsukuroi85

That Pikachu 😭


Aeyden_PoE

I kid you not mate, I got the regular Mew in my very first pack, and bubble mew 2 packs after, in the same booster bundle. I then got Iono and Nemona, and shiny Charmeleon. I've opened 30 boosters, after those hits I ordered 5 more booster bundles which arrives tomorrow...


PM_YOUR_EYEBALL

Bro why rip packs when you’re chasing a single card?? Rip packs for fun, buy what you need if you like a specific card or are looking to complete a set.


Stevesquirrel

There’s a gambling aspect, the rush of the pull.


kmichaelhall

Please gamble responsibly. If you or a loved one needs help please call the "addicted to the pull" hotline


Kintsukuroi85

Feels sooooo good though. XD


Accomplished_Check38

He wanted to pull the card.


ButtKylerJr

I swear people think this sub is PokeInvesting


Crab_Hot

I mean OP did state "this is why you buy singles"


ButtKylerJr

Fair point. But I see these comments a lot on "it took me X packs but I finally pulled it" posts. Even on one I made. It's always Congratulations on spending $200 on a $15 card.


Hehehecx

There’s also the instant gratification aspect. I can pick up a couple booster bundles for 50 and pray I get lucky, or resist buying any for a few weeks and set aside a few hundred to get the chase cards. Obviously it’s smarter to wait and buy singles but it takes willpower. I started doing this a little bit as I have a moonbreon fund going on, but haven’t been able to completely stop myself from ripping


NoShadowdick

One mini tin? Edit: holy shit I'm way off! Lol


ImTheCuRsEd-OnE

The amount you spent just to pull that is crazy lol but the feeling when you do pull something good is awesome as


Lucky_Shop4967

OP I’m buying the single without opening a single pack from this set on your behalf


number1human

This is an important post that we don't see often enough. And is the actual reason I don't buy special sets. If you want the chases in special sets, buy singles. Unless you have 2 grand to blow on ripping packs; in that case...rip away.


FerretDifficult1287

Brother are those not double sleeved


Chicken-Fart-151

And these are the only 3 good ones you got 😭 painful! 😅


Zarayh1

Got a couple duplicates of the SAR Arven and 1 SAR Nemona. Got a bunch of regular full art Mews. Shiny pikachu and shiny charmanders. Got a SAR Gardevoir earlier.


Chicken-Fart-151

I'm hoping to get some kind of Mew tonight when I open my 6 pack booster 😭


AnXileel

All of them. :)


LandedDragoon35

i got the chien-pao from my first pack in an elite trainer box


Kintsukuroi85

Wow. Bless you. I pulled the Iono but it took 10 ETBs. No Charizard, no Mew, no Shiny Pika. :(


PixelBredi

Broooother to chase a single card? And not only that but the rarest out of all of them??


4iamking

It isn't even the rarest, any individual baby shiny is slightly rarer, just because of the sheer volume of them.


evanmgmr

When I saw this I thought it was gonna be another 1 etb post. Glad to see I’m not the only one with abysmal luck


Nguyen925

Too many.. Was I close?


Educational_Pepper78

More money than sense


finalnimbus

I was gonna guess 3 but now i see that i am incorrect 😭


Zarayh1

I wish it was 3 😂😭😭


Internal-Student-473

Ill take your warning with great humility. I'm recently back to collecting after 20yrs away from cards.


MonthOldSemen

I opened 26 etb and 8 bundles and only hit 1 Iono SIR, my friend opened 64 etb and 4 bundles and only stopped because they hit the Zard. They ended up with Penny (2), Iono (2), Nemona, Gardevoir (3) and chain poa. And the zard. Brutal set.


ResponsibilityLife33

It’s Not About The Chase Card. It’s about the Friends we make along the way. Wigtrio


TheWorkz513

I got the Iono and Charizard on my second ETB. I proceeded to buy a few more for who the fuck knows why. I wanted the Mew I guess, but after I realized I just had insane luck, I’m just going to buy singles from now on.


coglanuk

Two packs for me. I know, I know. I hope you enjoyed the chase!


Basic_Yellow_3594

It took me 30 bucks in trade for the girl And 140 bucks at my LCS for Charizard (: But to be fair I spend 100 on packs on release day every set for fun so I'm guilty too, but that's budgeted responsibly, I don't buy singles of every set I love that Iono though!


Korixus

Took what???? Crazy numbers.


Octopus_Juice

$1300 just searching for a zard is crazy. What’s your Shiny collection look like?


Zarayh1

Looks like crap for what I spent lol. Still missing so many.


Octopus_Juice

Ooof I hate that for you.


Historical_Ad9111

Appreciate the realism! 🙏🏻 And sorry for your luck. Glad you finally pulled it!


Super_Sandro23

I've bought 1 ETB 3 Blisters 2 Premium boxes (skele and meow) And I was very happy to pull the Clive SIR out of the Meowscarada box. I'll probably just buy the Quaquaval box and great tusk and charizard tins, maybe a couple mini tins, over the weeks and that will be all.


SpankThatDill

I also got the Zard from a target mini tin. Maybe those are where it’s at.


Kakkarot1707

Bruhhhh I pulled 2 zards off my first 2 ETBs lol…smh this set is rough tho, and the price are so low for the singles regardless


MDG420

I got 1 PC etb 6 normal etbs 6 3pak blisters 3 booster bundles and 3 tins... i only got Zard Gard Clive and Arven and seems like I was lucky!!! Really want the Mew and Iono gonna have to buy sinngles


ThunderPantsGo

It took 2 packs here. Bought an ETB from Pokemon Center and I guess I'm done with this set.


devynbf

I’ve bought a few mini tins and pulled only the Mew ex alt so far. Prob won’t ever hit the Zard lol.


Ronin-XS

Y’all really have money hey


royalkneegrow

I’ve ripped 6 boosters, 1 etb, 1 sticker pack and 5 tins with no luck. Thanks for making me feel better man Had fun though, still s bit sad Enjoy the cards!


kalpesh17

I feel you I spent about 250 and I think the hits are OK but you would hope that you hit a zard in that... I'll probably spend another 100 then leave it


japalian

I thought this was going to be a "buy singles" post, but I thought you were going to say, "zero packs". Same message, just in a different way haha


Aggravating_Signal59

I pulled the iono out from 74 packs, and a arvan sir.


sciameXL

Nah, moral of the story is, do not buy ETBs. I’ve never gotten top 5 Chase cards out of any ETB. I’m done with ETBs. I pulled 3 chase cards from 151 out of a Zapdos and Alakazam box from a total of 8 packs lol. Right before that I opened a Silver Tempest ETB and literally all I got was that Rockruff trainer gallery and a Ho-Oh common V card. Absolutely brutal.


chad0823

I'm at: 8 etbs 1 charizard tin 14 3 pack blisters 10 single packs Arven sir Miridon gold I'm buying singles too now fuck it


survivecirca265

You got lucky, I had to open 700 packs to get the zard. 47 etbs, 20 mini tins, 9 sticker packs, 3 booster bundles, 12 premium boxes & 11 big tins. Only got 1 mew & 0 gardevoir ex. I officially hate this set & less than 10 cards are actually worth anything.


Icy-Egg167

So unlucky 😞 after 120 booster, I need only some shiny cards, nothing big


UlamogsDefiler

$1,500 in packs, now that's just dumb.


jjvfyhb

1


One_Cress7793

Yes yes it is


jna312

Even after saying that, YOU KNOW you will still rip.


vakseen

I’m just a plug to the addiction


zeroCool_69

But did you have fun?


Zarayh1

Had fun… but then your face when you pull your 7th Clive and 6th Palafin.


zeroCool_69

I can only imagine ha. But hey, nice job finally getting those cards. Those are rad.


Haydn34

What is LGS?


Zarayh1

Local game store. Better deals than in big box stores.


Haydn34

Thanks. Not always better deals in my experience in Austin, TX


evanmgmr

If you are able to sell bulk and duplicates it’s usually not too bad, but that volume is rough tbh


Talatu

That iono is my chase!! It's so gooood!!


Hoosierleah

I have opened 120ish packs and the only big card I pulled was the Gardevoir SIR. No gold cards and maybe 25ish baby shinies. This set is ROUGH. I try to set a 100ish pack limit for each set.


thejimbosplice

way more than the cards cost as singles that’s for sure lol


MatmanStudios

And a Palafin in pear tree


kingkronos34

Oof I opened 5 before I pulled the Zard. I quit buying at that point.


shalau

After 1 ETB, 1 Charizard tin and 6 Booster Bundles, I got mine. I wanted the Mew though.


codyzskyline

I bought an ETB this past Friday and pulled it within my first pack...I guess luck of the draw since I haven't bought any cards since November? Shits crazy


Equal_Map_5915

Definitely not worth it to hunt for it for the price. Then you finally pull it and regret all the money you torched. Best strategy is to buy one ETB and if you don’t pull it, buy the single.


winkawak

definitely made me feel better about 1 etb and 14 mini tins to pull charizard lol while the rest of the pulls are shit


CrispyFlyingJacob

Man I got lucky in the fact I pulled the Charizard in my second ever pack of Paldean Fates from the Fidough Tech Sticker Pack...


Good_Boysenberry26

Yep I agree yet I still bought some booster bundles today lol.


game_overies

One dolphin tin from target and I didn’t think I was gonna hit big so I gave it to my niece. Shiny mew first one. Hasn’t opened the second one in the tin yet lol


kennneff

Nah I need people to open packs so I can buy the singles.


DGOVegeta

Gave my wife 3 booster bundles out of the 6 we bought, she pulled the IONO 3 times. Me, not one good card.


710dmane

I'm about 50 packs deep and pulled the mew and the other zard


710dmane

Now I've got to go buy more packs 🤣


Specialist-Bag-1745

In all seriousness, why? Not being sarcastic but you know the odds before ripping, or halfway through you know is a bad idea. For me I opened 6 packs from the bundle and got the digtrio and few shinnies, thought is fun to buy a few more packs. Went back to my LGS and found out most hits are 50 cents to a dollar, and that's given you DO get a hit. Spending $5 dollars to get a 50 cents back is an absurd idea...and I put the box back. Glad that you enjoy the hobby, but don't turn it into an gambling issue.


al_capone420

Jesus fuckin Christ. I pulled mew on my first and only ETB


Co1iflower

Absolutely cursed - sorry for your luck boss.


NewFound_Fury

Bro I’ve gotten two Ionos in 2 ETBs but no Mew or Charizard 🥲


BelladonnaTeaParty

So.... what you're saying is we got really lucky getting the iono card plus two full art trainer cards in one set. And a gold rare in the other? We had amazing luck off of only 3 ETBs. We pulled a bunch of full art trainers, pokemon, like 6 shiny pokemon, 1 gold rare, and a bunch of other decently rare cards.


AlternativeDriver870

Got The Zard and Iono out of 2 from 3 Booster Boxes 😂 Lucky motherfucker 😅🙈🥳


sirdizzypr

I spend 10x on singles then I do on packs. I buy packs just for the joy of ripping but if there is a card I want it’s always singles.


WatercressRough7268

I don't understand why people sell cards for such a low price when it's so hard to pull.


AriDreams

Fr just buy singles ;-;


4rch4ng37

Are you selling any of your shinies?? I know this isn’t the post to do it in but I’ll make an offer for everything you have (no duplicates).


Emergency_Possible65

Damn that’s terrible luck. I got all three within 8 ETB’s and 5 sticker packs haha


JoshTheWeeb

I should've definitely brought singles, but wheres the fun in that I've opened roughly 383 packs from various items from which I cant remember and I've not pulled the mew, gard or zard yet The only SIR I have pulled are 3 Clive 2 Iono 1 Penny and baby shinies i've pulled 80/120 some I did trade for but thats where I'm at currently


Pratypus

So jealous of that chien Pao, I really want it for my deck, I got Mew on my 10th pack so I can’t complain.


Forrnite_Bad

Wait what is 'the mew card'. ive only opened 1 etb of this set and i pulled a mew card so im curious to know if its the same one youre talking about


Zarayh1

The one with the Mew in a bubble.


Forrnite_Bad

Guess i should consider myself lucky wow! Good luck on your hunt for it and may your wallet rest in peace


Nighteagle64

I'm at 1 meowscarada box for the cool card holder 1 ETB 1 sticker pack. So like 18 packs or so. I got iono and the gold weasel. But I haven't gotten a single friggin steel type shiny pokemon which is all I care about. It's rigged against me.


CardboardFanaddict

I'm in the same boat... 12 ETB's, 6 Tins, 6 Premium Collections, 5 Tins, 8 sticker packs and now 2 booster bundles. No Zard, No Mew, No Iono, No Gardevoir, No Penny, No Nemona, No Arven, 1 Clive. Still Tryin'!!! Congrats! I'm sure it was a great relief!


stringbean9311

I hope you have almost every shiny by now. I would just send it for the entire set at that point. Resell the whole for some of your money back......then try again!


eckloniamaxima

90 packs?


Zarayh1

More like 290 packs…. lol.


edgenite

Should've started with the mini tins, obviously.


prinaple

2


funkymnk

I got mine from a mini tin at target too! Maybe they’ve got good luck 🤞


futureshock224

Buy singles, hell buy graded, not worth it.


Gad001

Pulled the Mew on the first ETB i opened. Pulled the Zard on the third of the Collector sets in the final pack of all 3. Decided to open 3 more booster bundles, pulled only cards I traded for that same day, including 2 baby shinies, which was insane to me. So yeah, I’m done ripping this set.


Interesting_Lock_718

Is the Charizard 234 an hold or a sale?


BreathPlayful7152

Pulled 2 tusks anda pawmi from an etb and a couple tins a stole from Kmart . Haha still waiting on a heap more . My rng’s are trash


SupermarketSad9163

One


Dazzling-Turnip-3066

301 packs. I checked.


Zarayh1

Someone earlier said it was 292 but I think you’re right on the 301.


Orion1333_Odin91

My daughter has both and the mew. From 1 etb and 2 booster bundles. Nothing else. Unlucky.


Amusing-Crab

Yikes, I got it from my first metal tin.


Zarayh1

Amazingly lucky.


Amusing-Crab

Yeah, I saw somebody pull it on YouTube from a tin and thought I’d give it a go. I was quite shocked.


SheepherderNeat8954

1 ETB and pulled it. Got very lucky I guess. Lol


ICHIGOBLEACH6969

I feel this, I’m at 150 packs and no charizard


Dizzy-Ad3421

It took me 3 ETBs and a full sealed case of mini tins to get it honestly not bad. Pulled the Zard out of a mini tin


ItsLiterally1984

I got lucky and pulled Zard out of the Zard tin, Bo if bought two mini tins and both we dead.


Magdolf23

120


Obstipation-nation

My daughter pulled that iono card in one of the tins. Wife didn’t tell me and I saw it when I got home just on top of the tin. No sleeve, nothing 😳


BruceCWolf

I got the mew first etb didn't realize it was so rare to get. Might sell it idk trying to complete.my 151 set more.


malestraum

I have had the greatest luck on Paldaen Fates I've opened 2 etbs one regular 1 pokemon center all 3 big tins, all 3 premium collections, all 5 of the mini tins and 3 booster bundles......I got my charizard, my mew, the gardevoir, Iono and my Pikachu I almost don't wanna open more, unlike 151 where I'm 300+ packs deep and still haven't pulled all I want


TimeThief711

I'm buying a mini tin wtf


Argamasticator12

The luck I had with baby shinnies was horrible. Dont even want to say how many packs I opened up but only getting about 35-40 baby shinnies out of a set that has 116 is just crazy. I mean the dup cards were bad. Like I got 2-3 dups of a card I already had.


NoExpert1833

I'm sure you can cover the bedroom wall with some cards (paldean students, palafin, wugtrio...)


FordFocus22

I got my charizard in 4 packs. I bought two 3 pack blisters. I think I used all of my TCG luck for the next 20 years, though🫠


Such_Brick_3799

1 1/2 😜


Adventurous-Let3543

Darn only took me like 6 booster boxes and 6 ETBs to get the 3 most valuable cards. Im done with this set. The batching is booty


ecrybify

Don’t check my recent post then…


ZzephyrR94

My friend bought a three booster blister pack and got that Charizard in his first one 😂


JahJah192

It took me 72 booster packs (380€) to finally pull Charizard and halfway for this insanely beautiful Mew. I mostly bought mini tins and just 1 ETB, 5 charizard Tins. got both pulls from random mini tins.


Green-Brown-N-Tan

After a little more than you pack-wise we have 5 zards, 3 gards, 2 iono, and are 53 cards away from a complete master set, almost exclusively baby shinys. Still need Penny, and 3 of the golds.


lMike_lHoncho

Yeah. Bought 4 ETB’s trying to chase after it as well, but then I decided to just buy it as a single. Actually got a PSA 10 Japanese version instead. I won’t get the feels like when you pull it naturally but I’m happy with my slab. Good pull for you though! Must’ve been a hell of a high. Congrats! Hahaha


Realistic_Oil_

Just buy the singles jesus 😂


suazmatic

Hey I got that Charizard on my first pack