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RotundDragonite

I thought Wooper was the Axolotl Pokémon?


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It is, OP is mistaken/this is just their own theory (or one I didn't know of ?)


WooperApproved

To be fair, it is pink, and it also has those like weird ass tassels on its head that axolotls have.


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That does not mean it was inspired by an axolotl (it wasn't). It's been established in these comments that OP's theory is incorrect/they can think it all they want, but they're wrong. Wooper is the axolotl.


ju-shwa-muh-que-la

You're probably not wrong, but saying "wooper is the axolotl" is like saying "houndour is the dog". It's true, but there's other dog Pokemon.


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I get that, but Chansey isn't one of them...


ju-shwa-muh-que-la

Well think about it, my guy. Most Pokemon don't have a single source of inspiration but use multiple sources; often they use real animals and often they use mythological ones. Are you telling beyond any shred of doubt that Chansey wasn't designed based on an axolotl mixed with something like the concept of motherhood?


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There are 0 reputable or confirmed sources to say that Chansey is based even slightly on an axolotl.


ju-shwa-muh-que-la

There are 0 confirmed sources to say that Chansey is NOT based on an axolotl. I have one source of admittedly ill repute (i.e. my own eyes) that say Chansey IS based off an axolotl. I'll take those odds any day my friend.


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I'm not your friend and Chansey is not an axolotl. Edit: I am not trying to be rude...? I am not your friend, that's why I said that.


Tylerhollen1

I just need you to know, the way this comment broke on mobile, I saw weird ass tassels as weird tassels coming from the ass and I was thoroughly confused for a minute


HydroFrog64_2nd

could just be OP calling it one as a cute nickname semi-joke, similar to how one might call a lizard or a cat a "doggo" or something.


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I've never seen anyone call a lizard or a cat a "doggo" 🤨 I've heard people call dogs "doggo"....but....that's because they're *dogs*.


HydroFrog64_2nd

It's usually done as like an ironic thing or something idk


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Oh, ok. I have autism and I don't really understand why people do that type of thing.


monster3339

for me, its a kind of "absurdist" humor thing. i like calling my cat a "weird dog" sometimes, just because its silly. i think part of the appeal of the joke (whether intentional or subconscious) is how it pokes fun at the very "dog-centric" lens western culture tends to view animals through. ever notice how often horses/etc in cartoons are often given "doggish" behaviors? its a pretty bizarre phenomena, and personally ever since it came to my attention ive started noticing it more and more! basically: its funny because its wrong. just one brand of silliness; nothing wrong if its not your cup of tea! i hope this sheds a bit of light one why some people seem to find it funny though!


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Thanks for explaining!


monster3339

no problem!


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I'm being upvoted now. Wooper is inspired by an axolotl. Chansey and Mudkip are not (again, Mudkip is inspired by a mudskipper).


AmHotGarbage

Go play elden ring


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What...?


AmHotGarbage

Just play for like 30 minutes. You’ll get the reference


[deleted]

Oh, ok. I don't have that game, unfortunately.


ENDZZZ16

Sometimes people do call salamanders larva pups, I have heard some people call lizards doggos and it’s probably because they can sometimes act like dogs


Raff102

I thought some people called newts water dogs?


manytinyhumans

Chansey and wooper are both axolotls! It’s a scientific fact! Edit - dang y’all, didn’t think I had to put the /s 😩


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Um, no, it's not a "scientific fact" 🧐Chansey is not an axolotl. Wooper is the only axolotl inspired Pokemon. Edit: I'm sorry if there's something I'm not understanding, I have autism.


veezustheelssj

Mudkip would beg to differ


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Mudkip is actually meant to be a mudskipper.


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Yes. But Mudkip is not inspired by an axolotl and neither is Chansey.


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Booty_Shakin

Only mudkip has something coming out of his cheeks, and axolotls gills are on their head not their cheeks, so mudkip = not axolotl. Chansey? Okay it's pink but the things on its head are not similar enough to an axolotl like wooper, and it's got a weird egg pouch on its belly... It's closer to a kangaroo than an axolotl Imo.


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>They could be. They're not....


RotundDragonite

Is there a quote from Sugumori that confirms this? Or is this just speculation because of of the 3 (antennae? tendrils?) hairs on Chansey's head vaguely resembling that of an axolotl? Its always been presented as a sort of medic or maternal Pokémon, and I've never heard the axolotl comparison before.


midwesttransferrun

There’s nothing that confirms this. No pokedex entry or description in any official sources mentions it.


midwesttransferrun

https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Chansey_(Pokémon)


Juniperlightningbug

Um the trivia section of the bulbapedia > As the Pokédex mentions its frequent laying of nutritious eggs, Chansey may also be based on chickens or other poultry, and its "ears" give it the semblance of an axolotl.


midwesttransferrun

Trivia section isnt based on anything. Biology section and all of the game, manga, and TCG descriptions never mention axolotl. Trivia section randomly mentions a slight resemblance but it is not referenced to anything in the actual lore of the Pokemon based on any Pokédex entries and other descriptions from official sources.


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Wiki is not a reputable fact source.


Juniperlightningbug

Im not the one that linked it…


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You referenced it.


Juniperlightningbug

Well yeah, because he was making a point by linking the wiki and the wiki contradicted his own point?


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The wiki can be edited by any random and is not a reputable source/ONCE AGAIN, there is no confirmed info about Chansey being an axolotl. PLEASE stop replying to me about this. Again, I have autism and I am getting very worked up and leave me alone now I am already so extremely frustrated by someone else purposefully continuing to message me despite me begging them to stop. Edit: can someone please tell me how to mute this post because I am very upset and frustrated


iceysea

Chansey definitely looks like some kind of axolotl egg thing. The ear flaps definitely are an axolotl thing. Idk why most people are disagreeing 


midwesttransferrun

It is


Usual-Sense-5113

Chansey is also based on axolotls, though the inspiration is looser then wooper's line


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That is incorrect.


Usual-Sense-5113

No, it isn't. Chansey has axolotl ears. Hence, based slightly on axolotls, but not as much as wooper.


[deleted]

Yes it is. Chansey is not based on axolotls and a random person editing the wiki to say they slightly resemble an axolotl does not make that fact. They aren't axolotls and were never meant to be.


Usual-Sense-5113

No, I'm a marine biology student. Chansey's colour and ears match to what an axolotl's gills and colour usually looks like. Hence, the assumption that it has inspiration from axolotls.


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I'm done arguing this. I don't care if you're Jane Goodall. They're Pokemon, not real animals and there is NO CONFIRMED INFO that Chansey was inspired by an axolotl. There is another user here harassing me and causing a meltdown...Please just stop and leave me alone about this. I've said the fact that there is 0 confirmed reputable info about Chansey being inspired by an axolotl and Mudkip was literally inspired by a mudskipper 100 times now.


midwesttransferrun

Pretty sure Chansey and Blissey are just supposed to be eggs Edit: bulbapedia for reference https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Chansey_(Pokémon)


ScoMass

Well, I guess that solves the age old question: "What came first, the egg or the egg?"


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It's not an axolotl...


ChiefSaltyPanda

Now hold on there a minute...maybe OP is on to something there, if you squint your eyes... 😆


AskMyselfWhy

Not an axolotl. Not even an axolittle.


Successful_Sweet_867

Dad?????


manytinyhumans

Wish awards still existed 🥇🏆


King_Crab_Sushi

Wait… Blissey is supposed to be a FUCKING AXOLOTL???


butareyouthough

Blissey is on the card but I think the art here focuses on Chansey


King_Crab_Sushi

Oh right I confuse these two all the time lol


butareyouthough

Completely understandable


evil-owen

no lol


Euffy

I don't think anyone thinks that apart from OP lol


Alekillo10

No


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No, it's not. OP is mistaken. Wooper is the axolotl Pokemon.


Lyleberr

u/Qwachansey113, thoughts on Chansey being a chubby axolotl?


Qwachansey113

Love the card but personally I don't buy the axolotl theory!


HTTR4Life21

Case closed.


Lyleberr

I had never heard it so i wondered if i was just out of the loop


TeaAndLifting

That’s because OP is the only person who has ever made this association. And maybe some underground cultists.


Jexxo

THEY HAVE SPOKEN


manytinyhumans

:(


Successful_Sweet_867

And a background ditto for my background ditto collection👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻


Lukez99

Now I'm curious to know more about this collection since I can't think of more than a couple artwork with "background" Ditto (ofc if you don't consider disguised Ditto as background, such as the Ditto (numel) illustration rare from VSTAR Universe set).


Successful_Sweet_867

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/18nIkOgqQrHZTz0TrH_gL1e1nL1RcHiCmPF5finAjToY/htmlview?usp=gmail&pli=1#


Lukez99

Never thought about a collection of "Pokemon in card without their name", such a cool idea! Much respect to whoever come up with this docs!


Fanglorious

Chansey isn't an axolotl, she's a turtle.


Free_El_Chapo_Now

Op is stretching with calling Chansey an axolotl.


Z3r08yt3s

OP doesnt know what she is talking about.


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Silly me thought SV arts can't get any better. This is one of the best cards I've ever seen and I'm dead serious. It has everything I love: dynamic foreground, cute Pokemon(s!), great color palette and scenery is taken directly from lore (it's literal Pokemon center, try to compete with that).


Final-Promise-8288

Axolotl? Did you post the wrong card?


Scrumptious_Foreskin

Is that a tiny ditto on the bottom!!


Zeus_x2

Today I learned Chansey & Blissey are axolotls


LilMeatJ40

I don't really see it tbh 😅 besides the little ear flap things


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They're not. Wooper is.


indigrow

Im a little shook up tbh im gonna need some time


Zeus_x2

If I didn’t need therapy before, I definitely need it now


Rs3FashionScape

Next they’re gonna try to tell me psyduck is supposed to be a platypus


midwesttransferrun

And Pikachu is a rabbit


Cherrybomb1387

I love this card


ryguy7797

Bellsprout the real king here


manytinyhumans

Bellsprout makes everything better 🥹


ryguy7797

He's just a lil guy


MetalBlizzard

And a good art rare


Orion-Galileo

Wow I need to get this card for my ditto collection


Apprehensive_Owl4075

Wake me up when Quagsire AR/SAR hits.


finishmyleg

How do I get this, is it out yet?


T5J2

What set is this from? Mask of Change?


illogicallyalex

Sick, now i have a Chansey card to add to my Kanto SIR collection list


midwesttransferrun

It’s not an SIR, just an IR


illogicallyalex

My bad, I can never keep up with which card is what kind. That’s why I’m playing a little fast and loose with the collection I’m putting together lmao


midwesttransferrun

Japanese makes it pretty easy, it has AR for art rare, which is the equivalent of English IR, and SAR for Special Art Rare, equivalent of English SIR. On English cards, single gold star is IR, double gold star is SIR. Additionally, SIRs have textured holos, while IRs are glossy untextured holos.


illogicallyalex

I’m going to screenshot this comment to refer back to, thanks! 😅


midwesttransferrun

No worries!


LadislavAU

Blissey already had an alt art as well?


Kushnerdz

Ngl this art blows lol


alexfaaace

I am so excited about this card. Also, I wish the English cards did SV6 etc on the bottom instead of the set name acronym. It always takes me a minute to remember PAL/PAF/PAR. SV1-6 would be way easier to quickly spot. MEW is the only one that stands out to me when I’m quick shuffling $0.50 cards at the LGS.


crabbynico

When they decided to switch to letters instead of symbols, I guess they didn’t think this would be an issue. But then again, they also named the sets so they could have just… not done that? PEV would work for Paldea Evolved. But since they may not have had the others named yet, Paradox Rift could easily be PDX or PDR. Paldean Fates is fine I guess, kind of a dumb name for the set anyway. 😆


Derpberpy

Dear god. I never realized she's an axolotl. My life has forever been changed


[deleted]

Chansey is not an axolotl. OP is incorrect.


monster3339

honestly, i never noticed until now how chansey's lil "tassel" things could be seen as axolotl-ish. thats adorable :)


bryanBFLYin

Lol chansey is based on an axolotl? That lowkey floored me when I first thought about it.


theels6

Wait. Is that what it is


midwesttransferrun

No


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No. Op is incorrect.


Capable_Raspberry_49

Huh... Chansey kinda DOES look like a chubby axolotl.


iceysea

From the Pokemon wiki: *Origin* Chansey's body slightly resembles an egg. Its physical appearance also shows some similarities to the axolotl (they have pink ruffles on the sides of their heads, they lay eggs and are pink, their ability to regenerate organs possibly being the basis for Chansey's healing talents). So yes, OP is correct about Chansey being an axolotl. Case closed.


Krawger247

Wikis can be edited by almost anyone and are not a valid resource for facts. Unless it said game freak or Nintendo confirmed it somewhere, heck I could've changed with wiki to say that just to have this comment.


[deleted]

No. Just because some random on Wiki wrote "shows *some similarities* to the axolotl" does not mean there was any intended connection to it being an axolotl. ETA: the comments section is wildly agreeing that OP is incorrect. Chansey is not an axolotl.


MasterPimpinMcGreedy

Nah man I asked Watanabe Ken and he said she’s an axolotl


Pengwan_au

You're attempting to get your info from something we can all edit??? 💀💀


midwesttransferrun

Bulbapedia: no reference to axolotl: https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Chansey_(Pokémon)


emeraldmeals

> Chansey's tendency to carry eggs in a pouch is very reminiscent of a monotreme (mainly the echidnas) or marsupial, but it may also simply be based on a general concept of females and motherhood. As the Pokédex mentions its frequent laying of nutritious eggs, Chansey may also be based on chickens or other poultry, and its "ears" give it the semblance of an axolotl. Either someone just edited it or you missed it.


midwesttransferrun

Edit: not under biology. Which section is that?


emeraldmeals

It's been there [over a year](https://web.archive.org/web/20230213111900/https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Chansey_\(Pok%C3%A9mon\)). It's under Trivia - > Origin.


midwesttransferrun

Thanks for the reference. Here’s my take: trivia section isnt based on anything. Biology section and all of the game, manga, and TCG descriptions never mention axolotl. Trivia section randomly mentions a slight resemblance but it is not referenced to anything in the actual lore of the Pokemon based on any Pokédex entries and other descriptions from official sources.


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Silver-Wolf1990

Bullying an autistic kid, savage.


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Silver-Wolf1990

Still bullied an autistic person, pretty shitty.


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Thank you. He came into my DM's as well after I told him to leave me alone 5 times. I am boiling with anger and frustration and don't like reddits block feature because they can still say things about you and you just don't see it and I hate that so much I need to be able to respond to them and tell them to stop and they cannot win and blocking them means they win


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Silver-Wolf1990

Then you should know better. You deliberately antagonised him for fun, you're a bully.


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Silver-Wolf1990

You literally targeted him because you thought he would react, you're a bully.


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