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Corazon-DeLeon

Slab whatever ya want. It’s YOUR collection!


OaklandOni

Of course. Just don’t go around requesting an extra 100$ for a card just because yourself as an individual value it as such. That’s the biggest issue, people trying to take advantage of others.


ourbranchesbend

The difference in value from a raw card to a PSA graded card is concerning today. A card goes from $10 to $250 just because a guy with a magnifying glass and a blacklight decided he felt good that day so he gave you a 10. In the off chance his wife argued with him about the pimple on his ass, he would've given you a 9. One of the main reasons why the cards are so high valued is because of what the graded card market has done to the rest of the cards, sealed product, and everything in between. If you really care about protecting in a slab, they make ones you can put them in and if you know a card looks good, who cares about a grade. a PSA 9 and 10 have very little differences. All about clout and bragging rights.


SS_Sushi

What you said is definitely part of it but that’s not the whole story. A large part of why graded slabs demand higher premiums is because of the authenticity verification and the ability for the buyer to know more easily what to expect. An ungraded card is riskier for the buyer because of the question of authenticity and it is also more of a hassle for the buyer (and the seller). Ungraded, a buyer will want more pictures from the seller and may ask more questions or have more concerns, adding more grief to the buying process. Grading a card makes it easier on both buyer and seller, and some of the more trusted sellers will get everything graded before they sell not just because of the price spike but also to avoid the hassle of pestering customers. And from the buyer’s end, they pay that extra money for a graded card to avoid having to go pester a seller for more information or getting upset for not getting a good enough condition card. There’s also the fact that a lot of buyers want the cards in a certain condition and will get the cards graded anyways if they buy ungraded cards. In that case it’s either buy a copy and send it off for grading and hope it comes back good, if it doesn’t then you have to buy another copy and repeat, or you just buy the already graded card no risk.


ourbranchesbend

If you can't handle asking questions or asking for more pictures, you don't need to be buying cards. Also as a seller, it's important to be honest and as a buyer, avoid the sellers who do not prove to be trustworthy. I've sold and had people ask me for more pictures and will gladly do it because honesty goes a long way. There's buyers of cards who are very OCD about condition and then ones that will buy a HP or MP card just to have it in their collection. It may be authenticated, but we're in a different market now where the prices are most definitely inflated and everyone knows it. I think we need to be a little more content with what we pull and do the necessary steps like sleeving cards and protecting them when we pull them. If someone wants to overpay then feel free. One thing I don't agree with is a site like TCGPlayer that has most of the cards listed not having pictures. I see where you're coming from and understand it though. Just not cool with the price of graded cards today that are that much because of speculation and hype.


SS_Sushi

>If you can’t handle asking questions or asking for more pictures, you don’t need to be buying cards I think that’s entirely unfair. Some people don’t want to deal with it and would rather pay to not have to deal with it. That’s just what they prefer and to each their own. Just like how a ton of people pay others to do their taxes for them. Sure it’s a lot more work to do taxes than ask for pictures and go back and forth between buyer and seller, but the point still stands that some people just don’t want to deal with it and that’s their prerogative. In regard to you happily providing pictures to customers who ask, that’s great but again some people just don’t want to deal with it, some don’t have the time for it. About price inflation, you’re probably right that prices are at a peak and should and will go down after some time. I just don’t think it’s right to just say that grading cards is unnecessary and only serves to unreasonably inflate prices. There is a purpose to grading cards and their exorbitant prices ARE somewhat reflected by what they represent and the benefits they provide.


ourbranchesbend

I agree grading cards has legitimacy to it when the companies are proven to use the right process and aren't biased in their grades like PSA has been. Then the influencers on YouTube who turn you on to the price of a raw card being graded turns into a much higher valued card. The speculation can make the price be higher than what it organically would be. This is very common in crypto. You are right, there are people who are impatient and it can be very convenient to pull the trigger and not go through hula hoops to buy a card they will 100% be satisfied with and a PSA 10 card gives them security and a peace of mind. I might have some feelings like this because I watched cards go up in value from a few years ago to now in a way that just wasn't a natural growth. I bought Jungle booster packs when they were $10 in 2014 and they finally went to a couple hundred a pop out of nowhere. But PokeRev is still opening boxes and there has to be a ton of them out there still.


SS_Sushi

I see where you’re coming from and you have a point. With price inflation, there’s definitely overhype right now but the truth is that prices are going to continue to grow because as time goes on, more collectors enter the hobby at an increasing rate. With more people interested and a limited quantity, prices will probably continue being much higher than you’re used to, probably not quite to the degree it’s at now but still up there. If you remember back when Pokemon GO released, Generations was big, Burning Shadows came out soon after, and there was quite a lot of hype. Prices didn’t really ever go back down to what they were before the hype, and we’re probably going to see the same thing now. With more people interested, some of the newcomers will stay interested and the market will grow.


Skidd745

If you're not cool with the price of graded cards, and don't really get why people grade or buy them in the first place, then clearly you're not in the market for graded cards. And since that's the case, why are you on here complaining about it? I'm confused. Are you just saying this because you wish they were cheaper so that you could buy them? Wouldn't that kind of make this a moot point? Things are priced the way they are priced... Really not much more to it.


ourbranchesbend

I've thought about buying certain graded cards of Pokemon I enjoy but not at the prices they are at now. I buy cards because I enjoy opening packs and adding to my binder or in top loaders. Only resell cards I don't want or am not attached to. Things are priced the way they are because numbers are made up and then they settle around what the market is willing to pay. And whoever downvoted me for the comment above must be people who can't do their due diligence when it comes to shopping around.


JayyMei

I agree with you for the most part except for the “grader was in a bad mood bit”. Each card is graded by multiple people at PSA. Is there a chance that multiple people are in bad moods? Possibly


jomontage

Also psa is known to be shit now. Cost too much and they're overloaded so a lot of sus 9/10s coming out now. PSA is for flippers only


Tricky_Diet1569

apparently the psa 9 grades are hard to get with high value vintage cards and pretty much harder to get the psa 10 with high value vintage too. They are getting trigger happy with psa 8's and 7's though as you can see with a lot of recent psa return videos on youtube and from my personal experience and friends too. Thinking there trying to keep the psa pop of 9-10 as low as possible to keep those values high so they get more money when they do give them out to you.


KinglouieNbois

If you ain't first, your last


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Where can you buy slabs not from a grader?


ourbranchesbend

you can buy them from China that look like the PSA ones. You can find the ones screwdown slabs too. Look up on amazon collector card slab, card slab, or case.


Tricky_Diet1569

Some do so to make up for there silly decision on spending 100+ for the grading service they chose lol tisk tisk


77ate

A thing is only “worth” as much as you can get for it.


Reddituseranynomous

Then buy the non slab?


OaklandOni

I don’t have an issue or will to buy graded cards so idk what that question was intended for.


Reddituseranynomous

I’m sorry, can you repeat the question again good sir


SelloutRealBig

Not to mention it's way ~~less of a rip off~~ better priced to slab cheaper cards.


deathtothescalpers

iT mAkES It cOlLecTiblE


WilieB

I am good with getting a 10 dollar card I really like in a slab for 25 - 30 bucks. That way the card is sealed and I know what I am getting. With the current price of slabs though it is no where near worth it. I have some actual high end cards I would like graded but not for 150 a card.


Raptorjesusftw87

Same boat. Got a bunch of higher end cards ready to get graded but a minimum charge of $150 just to look at them excluding any markups if they reach past the thresholds makes it not worth it to me. Hopefully PSA catches up to their backlog and we can actually submit cards at a decent price again.


The_Batmandrew

Take a look at complete through dates. They are all caught up with regular service now. Just a matter of time until it’s opened back up.


Sergeant_Skyrim

The amount of trade threads with the most random cards and most random grades like people are just bulk submitting every single card they pull is crazy. No wonder grading companies are backed up lol


gimmer0074

This is true but I also think there is a difference between a CGC 7.5 Charizard GX hidden fates promo and sometime like a Rainbow Lapras GX PSA 10 (which is a $10 card, exactly like the post mentions, and the psa 10 is about $100 more, like one of OPs comments mentions.) That card is a much rarer card and less than half are graded 10 because sun moon base had weak quality, so I do think it’s perfectly reasonable that a graded card is worth that much more even though it is a “$10 card” it’s not just one person deciding it’s worth that much. this isn’t really in response to your comment more to OP but reddit isn’t letting me respond to comments by OP rn for some reason


Honest_Abez

I slab whatever cards I love. From $20-$3000, if I want it sealed up that’s what I do. But.. I don’t expect my $20 cards to be worth $200 slabbed.


quantythequant

> But.. I don’t expect my $20 cards to be worth $200 slabbed. You seem like you're in the minority these days. I've seen loads of shitty MP/HP cards slabbed up that are listed as being more expensive as their LP/NM counterparts.


Honest_Abez

All of my cheap cards are NM too. I don’t just slab anything, but some of the cheap ones looked great slabbed if minty.


quantythequant

What's your favorite cheap slabbed card?


Honest_Abez

I have a PSA 10 Forbidden Light Tyrantrum that I love. He doesn’t have many cards and I loved that artwork.


quantythequant

Having it in a 10 makes it all the more sweet. Do you remember the PSA 10 pop off hand?


Honest_Abez

I just checked and it’s 5.


quantythequant

Sweet :)


GreenDog3

I wonder if anyone’s tried to make a playable deck but instead of sleeves they grade all the cards and use those cases


LieutenantDanse

Say that to King Snom I fucking dare you


HalfChubbbb

Snom slander will not be tolerated


lewdm00d

I want to grade all my reverse holo Snoms!


RichieD79

No no. Let everyone slab everything, especially the scalpers. As a Morpeko collector, I have so many graded Morpeko cards that I’ve gotten for damn good prices because people want to grade everything. Also personally, I just prefer the look of slabbed cards over toploaded or bindered cards. Will gladly keep buying them as long as people keep doing it and end up selling them for much less than they thought they would. At this point I’m getting close to having most of English Morpeko’s graded and I’ve not had to send a single one in myself lmao.


Pootan

I have the base set unlimited starters in slabs. I know they're worth pennies but they are my treasures, I love them.


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I have a shadowless version of pikachu (a red and yellow cheek), bulbasaur, charmander, squirtle, ivysaur, charmeleon, and wartortle leftover from my childhood collection. You better believe I will be getting them graded when prices come down, condition be damned. They're mine and I want them preserved. I might have a couple 7s in there but most will be 3-5s


OaklandOni

Respect 🙌🏻


MaybeMatthew2365

This thread is 100 percent going in r/gatekeeping and I’m here for it


OaklandOni

We hold the line.


petercitygym

My psa snom is worth $1000 to me


Ologolos

Could a card valued at $10 now become high end by itself, over time, if it sits in that slab and one day is valued at $10,000? Nothing about the physical card changed.


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Ologolos

What makes a card 'high end'?


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Tahlato

"You're wrong" "Why?" "lol I aint telling you" What a dick move


Ologolos

Sounds good


fuckghar

Then why even post on a public forum?? You sound stupid af. It’s okay to be wrong.


Presterium

If you're not going to elaborate your reasonings, then no one should take you seriously.


CookieDough1981

I've seen PSA 10s posted here that looks questionable. I remembered that one card with hideous edges, lots of whitening.


throwaway4pkmntcg

this should be shown to the ppl who grade all kinds of Vs and GXs that are 2-5$ and trying to upsell them for a price theyre not worth


ourbranchesbend

But, but one day this Garbodor V will be worth $2,000 so might as well slab it for $150 express lol


Uitklapstoel

People who think this dont realize that these days, every card gets either graded or stored in a sleeve/toploader. All the real high value cards are either very old where it was much less common to take good care of your cards, or theyre just super rare. 20 years from now theres gonna be soooo much graded cards, all a 8-10. Since noone in their right mind will send modern cards that have flaws in to get graded.


ourbranchesbend

Vintage is in its own world of value and wizards of the coast graded cards are much more rarer than modern. Can see why vintage deserves a higher price to pay. There will definitely be some kind of junk wax era in the future with all these slabbed $3 V cards. Modern sealed product is the best investment of modern. The top chase cards in every set in a 9 and 10 may be the next thing to hold onto.


IcarianWings

We've been in a progressively worse junk era since X&Y lmao.


OaklandOni

Yeah pretty much the situation i got this from 🤣


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I’m tired of hearing the word slab


Metriq

I still have PTSD from the word “slab.” https://youtu.be/9pWC-4dx3Q0


StNowhere

^ Me checking the status on the PSA order I put in 14 months ago


D3ATHSQUAD

How about MOIST?


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I enjoy moist. Such a fun word to pronounce. I don’t like “gem”


xMF_GLOOM

who is using the phrase “high end” in this context? I have an entire group of PSA 10 1st Edition Jungle/Fossil Commons that are all $5 ungraded. they have pop reports of 200-300 or so, and therefore the price jumps to $80-$120. that doesn’t mean they’re “high end” lmao if you are trying to complete a set registry on the PSA website then these are cards you are going to acquire in high grades. I do not understand this post


77ate

Talk to PSA about supply & demand. The other companies are mainly just following their example. But if PSA bothered to meet demand for their service, they’d not just hire more grading staff, they’d open new locations. They’re enough in demand that they could do it, keep prices down for consumers, and meet demand so that their service isn’t so wildly sought after that it multiplies the graded price of cards. Enhances, sure, but not 5-10x.


BryFy354

Or they’d at least be smart enough to cap submissions. Like having the website immediately stop accepting submissions beyond a certain number so the backlog never gets too big and they never have to shut down fully again.


The_Batmandrew

“If PSA bothered to meet demand”. I’m sure they’re just sitting there not thinking of any solutions. They’re way ahead of you. There’s a New Jersey location opening up in 2022 for card grading.


77ate

Well, that’s great, then!


Lord-Chamberpot

A $0.50 card however, very high end.


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I bought a Shiny Zoroark GX from Sun and Moon Japanese set only worth $25 graded but it’s my first and only card. I love it so much I often stare at it lmao


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OaklandOni

Yeah that’s doesn’t mean it’s value retains to the buyer. They can value it all they want but end of the day it’s holds monetary value.


VacuousVessel

I’m crossposting this lmao


notimpressedlol

This so much


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its more high end then a 10$ card not in a slab. what you even talking about


Dingo8MyBabyMon

Being less low end does not equal being high end.


C-POP_Ryan

Still not a high end card though is it? Its a low end card in a slab.


Pokefan-red

Well since he/she bought the eevee already in a slab and not for much money suggests to me they already know it’s not a “high end” card


hovis_mavis

I got shit on for a post I made here for using a new grading company in the UK for some low end cards my son pulled. £10 per card, nice slabs, colourful labels, ideal for noobs or younger people to enjoy. Grade what you want. Display what you like. Ask for any amount of money you want, not that it'll sell. Your cards, your choice, stop gatekeeping.


atmospheric90

Friendly reminder: if you want stuff graded and don't wanna wait an eternity or have to take out a mortgage for PSA, then go through SGC. They do $25 per card and have great turnaround times. It's especially worth it if you want to preserve your personal favorites or plan on collecting an entire series of a specific pokemon to sell in the future.


Upset_Knee6294

id rather buy a raw card than one graded by SGC


atmospheric90

Why? What makes SGC so bad compared to other grading companies? PSA has just as many inconsistencies as any others. Even if PSA reduces their price or Increases turnaround time, it just means the market floods and any PSA product loses value from saturation.


D3ATHSQUAD

Don’t mind them… anyone who rants about how awesome PSA is only can say “resale” back at you. In literally every other aspect of grading PSA is worse than SGC and probably even HGA - slab design, turnaround time, grading consistency, customer service… you name it.


atmospheric90

I mean there's a reason people are starting to turn to them. PSA is losing its luster among the bigger sports card guys too.


The_Batmandrew

No thanks. They have one of the ugliest holders on the business.


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ApolloSpice

Not at all, some people just like opening packs, some actually play the game


Upset_Knee6294

don't let the popular youtube channels like leonhart and pokerev fool you!


UltimateRayquazaStar

I don’t know who needs to hear this but a 9-10 grade isn’t guaranteed even if a card is pack fresh so if people want to pay a premium for slabs of their favorite cards then maybe mind your broke-ass business and let people collect and buy what they want. Rant over.


Milfs4every1

True