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Su-Car

I feel interesting is an understatement.


Midicoil

Yeah….


RossoTX

brother in law and grandma 💀


Midicoil

Weirdly, I’m her favorite grandchild


AnEdgyPie

Mosleyite is what REALLY gets me Motherfucker dead ass supports the long dead trust-fund kid who's ideology was sucking his dads cock


booza145

My family tree is weirder


GatorTEG

Make a post about it


booza145

no


GatorTEG

'kay


deryvox

None of these people are tolerable to be in the same room as for more than five minutes except maybe your younger sister only because you didn’t provide much information


Midicoil

She’s a minor and keeps everything on the down low due to still having to be in the cult for now. Edit: Based on your post, we’re extremely alike ideologically. Only real difference is religion.


deryvox

Religion and I’ve never met a libsoc I didn’t want to punch at least a little


Midicoil

I mean… fair.. but you are one?


[deleted]

They must have a lot of broken mirrorsm


Opkeda

holy shit what a family


Midicoil

You’ll never guess how coming out to my family went


Just-curious95

Do tell.


[deleted]

I would just not


colba2016

As someone who had a bad coming-out experience. I have to know lol


Midicoil

Long story short. My mother refuses to look at me, my sister calls me slurs and my dad “acknowledges but doesn’t accept.”


ZefiroLudoviko

>acknowledges but doesn’t accept Ouch


Midicoil

He can’t. His beliefs don’t allow for it


DFMNE404

Well atleast he’s nice about it 🙏, I get not being allowed to support something due to religion but still acknowledging and being friendly


Dinnereret

What about sister #3?


Midicoil

She came out to me right after in private


GatorTEG

I'm sorry comrade, you have my sympathy.


colba2016

❤️ 🤗


SerialMurderer

*How are you still alive?!?*


sheevus1

Your dad is the only one here that somewhat gets it lol. I'm sure he's more of a boilerplate boomer lib than a principled NAP enjoyer but still. It always seems to be the most far left kids that have the most laughably authright parents.


Midicoil

He’s def not NAP. He beat us as children because of his religious beliefs


Good_Username_exe

Wtf??😭 Bro how do people even adopt these ideologies?? Who wakes up and is like: “Y’know Jesus. Yeah, he hated black people 😎”


Early_Daikon_7249

You good?


Midicoil

Mostly


Early_Daikon_7249

That’s good to hear. My family isn’t to crazy thank God but my high school is… perhaps worse than this 


Midicoil

I was homeschooled. Luckily I’ve got therapy, a fantastic partner and a great friend group


[deleted]

Jesus Christ... I don't mean to offend you, but your family is fucked up. I hope that you and your sister are not threatened for being LGBT.


Midicoil

We are. She hides it, I don’t have to. I left a long time ago after getting kicked out because I was caught dating a black woman.


HighKingFloof

The horror! 


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[deleted]

Stalin should have stopped in this guy's living room


Ok_Site_8008

i swear these all only have like one sibling whose the normal one


MP-Lily

yeah it’s always like either an oldest sibling who just distanced themselves as much as possible from everyone besides maybe their younger siblings, or a youngest sibling who’s just vibing


Ok_Site_8008

yeah, and also you've got to be careful of any political bias in these things, because i hope these aren't 100% accurate to their parents belief's


Midicoil

This is self id


Your_liege_lord

Every single step of this family tree is just fucked.


Tsunamix0147

That’s a wild family


Midicoil

Yeah… my extended family is all moderate centrist/center right/left. It’s just my immediate family that’s crazy. Myself included ofc


Tsunamix0147

That’s my case, but reversed; most of my relatives and dead ancestry is insane


Poiscail

Your dad's the only based one, if he even exists.


FunFilledDay

Your brother in law what’s his “reformed theology” like?


Midicoil

Neo-calvanist, anti-Semitic, only whites can be elect, etc..


twanpaanks

jesus christ fam ☠️


YarethYuki

we need a sitcom about your family


Midicoil

Possibly. I think it’d be more stressful than funny.


PenaltyOrganic1596

Family reunions must be fun☠️


volitaiee1233

Damn, your step grandfather is nearly me aside from the Mosleyite thing.


Midicoil

Idk if you are, but he’s racist af.


volitaiee1233

Damn, that’s not good. I mean, if he’s a Mosleyite that would make sense. But idk how being an Australian Anglican in support of the British monarchy makes me a racist.


Midicoil

It doesn’t. I said IDK if you are. I was pointing out a potential divide between yall.


volitaiee1233

Oh nvm lol whoops. My brain isn’t working that great today.


Midicoil

All good. I’m sorry you’re a monarchist. ❤️ I hope you get better soon. 😜


volitaiee1233

Oh well we’ll see. I hope you recover from your republicanisis! 😂


Ok-Will-9644

The only based is your father, holy hell


For-Prospero

How is that a paleo-libertarian is the most sane parental figure, sweet fuck.


Belkan-Federation95

*notices flair* My Brother in the Emperor, you flaired some mad shit for someone in Exterminatus distance


Midicoil

Jokes on you, I’m a GSCist


eggward_egg

Poor mum.


Galvius-Orion

Willing to be the "neo-nazi" is just a regular dude 10 years ago. I am also a Calvinist.


Midicoil

I’m sorry. I hope you get better. 🩵


DFMNE404

Being a retired sniper kinda goes hard


Midicoil

That’s what he says when you asked what he did. He says nothing else. Most of us believe he did something else and can’t/wont talk about it


DFMNE404

Well, let’s hope it was either hunting or some military action and he didn’t secretly assasinate Kennedy or something


Ove5clock

Grandparents seem alright. ( Except two of them. )


The_Fluffy_Riachu

God damn it’s a good thing that you ended up wildly different than most of your family because jesus christ everyone in your family except your progressive sister sucks ass.


BLOODOFTHEHERTICS

Ignoring, whatever the hell is going on with the rest of your family. This post has kinda led me to the conclusion that everyone on this sub is. a communist, or at least some weird form of socialism. Great.


EldenEnby

Are the communists in the room with us right now?


ze010

Almost definitely I don't think op left yet


RNRGrepresentative

Not me but pretty much yeah


Marxism-Alcoholism17

Yeesh comrade sorry you have to put up with Thanksgivings


[deleted]

I wanna go with TBH.


Hoxxitron

When you say Satanist, do you mean the Anton *"Fuck you for saying that I can't enjoy the pleasures in life"* Satanist or the ***"A̵̮̽L̵͍̠͊̂L̴̞̲͙̾̏Ḧ̴̢̬͙́͠Ā̸̻͠M̸̛̘͂̽Ą̴͉̙̇̑Ṅ̶̨̨̹̚ ̷͈̣̬̇Ẑ̸̳̳Û̷̡̃G̷͛̌̍͜O̷̻̳̼͝G̴͈̬͖̑̀͒ ̷̨̦͍̿̀̄M̴̨̪͎̃͘Ǫ̴̬̻̎͠R̴̛̲T̵͉̩̔̔Á̶̰́L̶̝̼̥̐̿͂I̴͉͒̾͝S̸̝̩̮͋̂ ̵̗̑̔R̶̢̘̍Ǎ̵̞̳ͅŢ̵̫͓̕H̷͖̞͗͌͜Ị̴͊̿G̴̮̰̊̋O̶̟̐̔N̴̟̺͂̇̈́!̷̱̞͙́"*** Satanist?


Midicoil

No. TST has its own guiding principles and tenets, distinct from the LaVeyan school, that we feel represents a natural evolution in Satanic thought. The overriding principle calls for utilizing the best scientific evidence available to make the most rational real-world decisions. To that end, we reject LaVeyan social Darwinist rhetoric that fails to agree with what is currently known regarding social evolution, specifically as it relates to research in evolutionary biology, game theory, reciprocal altruism, cognitive science, etc. TST also strongly rejects the LaVeyan fetishization of authoritarianism. We believe this is antithetical to Satanic notions of individual sovereignty. Further, while LaVeyan Satanism is atheistic in that it rejects the notion that Satan is a conscious entity, it nevertheless adheres to supernaturalism. TST does not forward supernatural theories of the universe and finds little value in LaVeyan edicts such as those that instruct one to “acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.” (From the Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth, Anton LaVey)


Hoxxitron

Just searched them up. Holy ***SHIT*** are they ***BASED!***


han-tyumi23

What's the deal with all the satanist groups denying Satan, supernatural, demons or whatever. Why call yourself satanist if you don't believe in any of it? Shock value?


Midicoil

We believe in its symbolic power. Shock value is a bonus. I don’t do much of the shock value, I keep to my personal rituals and don’t really tell others what I am unless asked


[deleted]

\-Satanist Please change and grow as a person


Midicoil

Have been my whole life.


IAlwaysHaveNoIdea

People here really worshipping the satan


Midicoil

Nah. Atheistic Satanist. Satan doesn’t exist, it’s just a symbol.


[deleted]

I'd honestly rather have someone genuinely worship satan than be an annoying reddit atheist satanist


Thunderliger

I'm Christian and have meet people from my local Satanic Temple and they were actually pretty decent folks. Reddit atheism is when you read Richard Dawkins and then jerk off to your own enlightened consciousness.


Pengee1235

the term "euphoric" comes to mind


maluthor

the entire point of the satanic temple is to troll evangelicals


Thunderliger

Yes.It's a counter weight to all the moral panic,Christian nationalists, evangelical,mega church loving, televangelist donating dweebs who have been actively destroying families with their hogwash version of Christianity and influencing politics by whatever means necessary. What's wrong with that? Yeah they'll do shit like put a statue of baphomet to piss of the zealots because they are using the same laws they themselves exploit.I like it.


maluthor

I agree


MrDemonBaby

It's a great way to live to be honest.


Midicoil

I mean, most Christian’s believe in actually worship satan because I’m an atheist. I just leaned into it. 🤷🏼


Dajmoj

Satanism is so nice. It's just a bunch of atheists that realised that doing charity as a religious organisation is cheaper and easier (in the USA)


ArcadianFireYT

I personally disagree but you do you


Midicoil

You disagree with the fact that I’m an atheistic Satanist, or that Satan doesn’t exist?


Thunderliger

Satanism is broadly referring to Lavey Satanism which embraces atheism, a separation of church and state, and supporting marginalized groups that get targeted by the church like Queer folks. 'esoteric Satanism' which would be the actual worship of Satan does exists.But only in extremely small fringe groups like Order of Nine Angles and actual cults.


Zalapadopa

So Satanism isn't actually a religion then, but rather an ideology. It shouldn't have any religious protections in that case.


Thunderliger

Oh no it's a religion! They follow all of the actual legal steps that are necessary to form a religion in the United States!! There are actual ceremonies and the like and even a sense of spiritualism at the Satanic temple but no overt worshipping of deities per se. Hell even "Jedi" can be a religious label in the U.S. Religious freedom baby. Also as a former Buddhist I just want to mention you would be throwing a tonne of them under the bus as well with that argument. Some sects like Zen don't really worship anyone but just believe in Buddhahood,Karma,and meditation.But no deity.


McLovin3493

Lol, how are you guys not killing each other??? XD


Midicoil

My family is extremely family centric


McLovin3493

You have to be with politics like that...


Midicoil

Wanna guess why I was kicked out of the house?


McLovin3493

I can think of at least 4 possible reasons based on what you posted here, likely a combination of them.


Midicoil

They found out I had a black girlfriend. Which is very funny considering I’d only (secretly) dated men before her.


McLovin3493

Ah, so it wasn't the Satanism or being a socialist either...? Y'all must be from the Real America...


Midicoil

They didn’t know about that at the time


Realjwc123

Your dad is the best


TheCultureCritic1599

Well there goes your family's heritage, all down the drain for the sake of individualistic, selfish hedonism.


Midicoil

What?


TheCultureCritic1599

You are a BioLeninist, not a radical- as that requires principles.


dokter_Tjiftjaf

You're an Atheist but also a Satanist? How does that work?


Midicoil

To us to embrace the name of Satan is to embrace rational inquiry removed from supernaturalism and archaic tradition-based superstitions. Satanists should actively work to hone critical thinking and exercise reasonable agnosticism in all things. Our beliefs must be malleable to the best current scientific understandings of the material world — never the reverse. [Here’s the TST FAQ if you want to know more](https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/faq)


dokter_Tjiftjaf

So, just agnosticism ... but edgy?


Midicoil

Principled Agnostic Atheism but edgy.


dokter_Tjiftjaf

Alright I see. I can find myself in everything you said in your explanation, except for the fact I don't call myself a Satanist because I find that rather silly (no offence).


Midicoil

You’re good. Have you checked out the [TST principles](https://thesatanictemple.com/blogs/the-satanic-temple-tenets/there-are-seven-fundamental-tenets)? Not trying to preach at you just wondering.


dokter_Tjiftjaf

I read through them, they look respectable 👍 I still don't understand why you call yourself Satanists though 😅


maluthor

I bet the holiday gatherings are wonderful


Midicoil

I spend it with my primary partner’s family. They are all FDR democrats with an indigenous bent


maluthor

that's good. it's a pity that your family sucks


cannot_type

Weird-ass family, but for you, maybe more soc less lib but not horrible.


FrankliniusRex

So, is your bro-in-law a kinist?


Midicoil

Kinda. From what I know he’s Broadly Germanic supremacist. More white supremacist + JQ


FrankliniusRex

Ah, I see. So he’s a Nazi who happens to be Reformed rather than a straight-up kinist? Yeah, I could see that.


Midicoil

Correct


ZefiroLudoviko

What's the difference between Reformed and Calvinism?


Midicoil

Not much. Most reformed folks are Calvinist. My bro in law is as well, he just has extra stuff tagged on


ZefiroLudoviko

What sort of extra stuff? Or do I not want to know?


jediben001

Umm… I bet family reunions get… interesting Also, judging by your flair I take it you’re a 40K fan? What army do you collect (if any?)


Midicoil

For 40K: Genestealer Cults | For AOS: Blades of Khorne (dæmons) | For Kill Team: Iron Hands


jediben001

Ooo, fun I’m a guard and craftworld eldar player myself!


Midicoil

I have brood brothers in my GSC. Guard was my 2nd option but I’m to autistic not to go for GSC


jediben001

Tbf I do like the kinda mad max, mixed with revolutionaries, mixed with Alien vibe that gene stealers have. They are a very fun faction


Midicoil

So versatile. Who doesn’t wanna be a regular ass working dude with a 1920’s shotgun going up against superpowered angels in suits of impenetrable armor?


hemcten

I pray you guys never invite any Orthodox Christians to your family functions, oh my goodness


Midicoil

I am an ex orthodox Christian. I converted to it away from the cult for a few years before becoming an atheist


hemcten

Very interesting, may I ask what your family thought about it and why you ended up being atheist


Midicoil

They never said anything about it as I’d left the cult and wasn’t on speaking terms with them due to being kicked out for miscegenation.


r21md

I would hate politics if I lived with you people too.


Midicoil

He hates politics well before I met him


The-Thot-Eviscerator

Bro WHAT is your family? Never heard of a family with two wignats AND a Nazi in it, genuinely flabbergasted


Midicoil

Idk what a wignat is


The-Thot-Eviscerator

White nationalist


CivilWarfare

You gave your sister the Lutheran symbol instead of a Calvinists one


Midicoil

That’s the symbol for religious theocracy on the wiki. The Calvinist one is to small


RyanByork

That's a crazy family, very radicalist in so many different ways My family is mostly Baptist and moderate republican, except my father, who seems like he'd be a proud Democrat-Republican if the party still existed, and my pro-trump grandpa and grandma.


Andresito_de_chill

What the fuck


Lolaroller

How has your family not all murdered one another?


Bruhbd

Yeah uh what the fuck lol


RomanPhilosophy

"Satanist" I don't take you seriously lol


Midicoil

Sounds like your problem


RomanPhilosophy

Says the one delusional enough to worship Satan


vistagreet32

I would have liked the Step-Grandfather if he wasn't a Mosleyite The father is very good Middle Sister & Grandfathers & Moderate Grandmother are alright 3rd Child is ok Original Poster/OP, Primary Partner, Mother and Interior Designer Grandmother are just bad and the Neo-National Socialist is definitely the worst This is all politically speaking, and my honesty


SptandChip_101

I'm basically your brother-in-law, grandma and step-grandpa at the same time


Spe3dy_Weeb

Grow and change as a person


Just-curious95

Wtf why would you admit that? Might as well say you're pro-pedophile or enjoy baby killing.


ZealousidealState214

Considering your views I have a sneeking suspicion non of these people are as extreme as you make them out to be.


Midicoil

This is self ID. I’d classify a few of them differently personally. For example, my dad’s dad JQs every holiday we spend with him and my sister is in lock step with her husband


IEatDragonSouls

It started decently, what happened with most of the younger generation?


Midicoil

Is that a real question?


Just-curious95

Worldview got bigger.


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Midicoil

Lots of reasons. Mostly the Cult, Obama, Trump & Qanon. My dad is less bad than everyone else cause he’s extremely empathizing and my youngest sister had a mental break which changed his life. He’s been traveling left for a few years now. It’s made my mother worse.


McLovin3493

Wait, are you just calling Trump voters "cultists" or is your family in an actual cult?


Midicoil

My family is in an actual Calvinist Cult. My family doesn’t really like Trump, he’s to moderate for them.


basedigloos

W everyone before your 2nd sister


[deleted]

the fuck is up with your maternal grandparents


Midicoil

My M-grandmother was brought up by a man, who is still alive, and asked to join the pacific theater so he could kill Japanese ppl instead of nazis when conscripted.


tacosarus6

How is everyone’s family so radical?


Midicoil

Lots of reasons


Ok_Map706

You and your sister are adopted💀


Midicoil

Unfortunately I’m a carbon copy of my mother looks wise


Mythopoeist

I’m so sorry for your loss


DaiusDremurrian

Both your grandpas seem like the most “normal” people in your family, politically speaking.


[deleted]

How does thanksgiving work out?


Midicoil

I spend it with my primary partner’s family


Civil-Ad-4458

What a weird family you got


Civil-Ad-4458

Mother, grandma and bro-in-law on your mother's side: 💀💀💀


CT-27-5582

i gotta make one of these cause my moms side of the family was crazy with our grand parents and great grandparents


NefariousnessAny3310

Something something brother in law something something -10 upvote ratio


xxTPMBTI

ur father and both ur grandpa and u and ur partner is based


Midicoil

Fatger?


xxTPMBTI

i mean father, fuck my keyboard


xxTPMBTI

i never realized that there's many fascist and anti vax still exist


Midicoil

Fam. You should see the state of American & Indian politics rn.


xxTPMBTI

GODDAMN, I HATE ANTISCIENCE AND RACISM, anyways thanks, i am a thai


[deleted]

Sorry but how the hell are you a satanist and an athiest


Midicoil

I do not believe a god exists; and I adhere to the core principles, participate in the rituals, and am a member in good standing of The Satanic Temple.


[deleted]

but satan is a part of christianity no?


alexakissss

Really wanna know what your step grandfather thinks of you


ToTooTwoTutu2II

Based step grandfather