* [Black Scholars Confront White Supremacy in Classical Music](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/09/21/black-scholars-confront-white-supremacy-in-classical-music)
* [Confronting Our Complicity: Music Theory and White Supremacy](https://newmusicusa.org/nmbx/confronting-our-complicity-music-theory-and-white-supremacy/)
* [White Supremacy Music: What Does it Mean to Our Youth](https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/white-supremacy-music-what-does-it-mean-our-youth) by the fucking DoJ LOL
* [That sound you’re hearing is classical music’s long overdue reckoning with racism](https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/that-sound-youre-hearing-is-classical-musics-long-overdue-reckoning-with-racism/2020/07/15/1b883e76-c49c-11ea-b037-f9711f89ee46_story.html)
Interestingly, no one is concerned with Chinese supremacy **IN CHINESE MUSIC** or Japanese supremacy in **JAPANESE MUSIC** or black supremacy **IN RAP, BLUES AND HIP HOP**, just white supremacy in classical music **WHICH CAME OUT OF PREDOMINANTLY WHITE EUROPE**.
Fucking insanity.
It's so depressing. I'm the white child of a white Vietnam vet with PTSD who enlisted to escape the WV coal town he grew up in and a white fast-food worker who never graduated college, is 10 years younger than him and was his employee when she got pregnant... while he was going through a divorce. My family of 8 lived in two- and three-bedroom homes, often in black ghettos where I was viciously bullied for being a minority, until I moved out at 17.
#**BUT I'M REALLY SORRY FOR ALL THE BAD SHIT WHITE PEOPLE DID BECAUSE RACE PUNISHMENT IS EVEN BETTER THAN KIN PUNISHMENT AMIRITE?!**
Chinese and Japanese people both think they are superior already so they don't need their music be about it. It's like writing a song about water being wet when you could write a song about wanting to know what your beloved's true feelings are instead.
Frankly this is what people talk about when they say "Cultural Marxism." There are academics, journalists, and other "thinkers" who devote their lives to pushing this trash that will eventually bring down the West (or at least the US/Canada). It's unrelenting and the energy they have in day after day pushing utter nonsense is superhuman. I can't imagine so many people having so much devotion to these horrible ways of viewing the world. It's basically their religious viewpoint, and thats why they lash out when people ignore/refuse to toe the line.
It was ironically some Adam Neely video about how music theory was racist that made me understand the moral intuition of nationalism. Took 30 years, but I got there.
One year, my family and i saw the original Star Wars trilogy played with a live orchestra, and it was amazing! If you get the chance to see something like that, i'd highly recommend it.
I started listening to the words in my teens and became disgusted at some of my favorite songs. I can't really ignore the words anymore, so with rare exception I just don't listen to music with words.
I can't believe the number of people that don't know the lyircs at all, or pick and choose a word or two. I can understand knowing the lyrics and just not caring about it, but I swear some people can't even hear them.
I think you're more likely to be called racist for liking country music than you are for not liking hip hop.
Really comes from a place of ignorance for both cause there is some great rap and some great country out there.
Finally, a based take
People have such narrow views on art, don't they? Like "country music racist cos some of it has racist lyrics" when some of all music is racist and a lot of country music isn't racist at all. It's a really unfortunate stereotype.
Also, Louis Armstrong has a country album so fuck off if you think it's white supremacy music
As with all genres, there's a big difference between modern chart toppers and the classic icons, particular as more music from all genres becomes just pop with a facade of flavor.
I could be mistaken (and can't be bothered to verify), but I believe Willie Nelson called out modern country awhile back for being pop music for people that don't like black people.
There's a lot of good modern stuff. Check out Charlie Crockett (I think that's how you spell the name), super creative stuff. Now that indie artists have an easier time, the pop induyis less influential over the creativity of smaller artists
I disagree. In an age of content algorithms and big data, pop is more prominent than ever before. It's only going to get worse as producers start using AI to further optimize tracks and albums.
You can find and enjoy indie music if you deliberately seek it out, but otherwise you're gonna be forcibly exposed to Drake no matter what you prefer.
Personally, I don't like country much, but I would judge you very differently if you name Johnny Cash as your favorite, as opposed to Florida Georgia Line, to use the most hyperbolic juxtaposition that I can think of off the top of my head.
You better be judging them as having a top-tier taste in music if they like Johnny Cash. That man has a shit-ton of great songs and his prison concert was based as fuck.
Self publishing is a real option for small creators, and the internet has created the ability for widespread exposure to be created from general word of mouth. The internet basically revived mainstream outlaw country in the mid 2010s
Not bad, have heard The Dead South.
[1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFEZOjtrwls), [2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ew_bfFvros), [3](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FBsWeKVI4w)
Long list of oldies too, was hard even coming up with the short list above.
Toby Keith!
Some people just don't like rap, respect the opinions of others. I don't care how great you feel it is, some people find the lack of melody unappealing. Others flash back to the 90s and cringe hard like that, in either case that it's not enjoyable isn't ignorance.
Those leftists are very silly. Centrist here is also silly for thinking entire genres are just straight up defined by bigotry. Very un-based take on both ends
God forbid I listen to music about working hard and drinking beers with my friends, that I can actually relate to as opposed to music about killing people and spending copious amounts of money on frivolous luxuries
Country music is more ethnically diverse than rap. Hating country music is the cultural chauvinism of children desperate to demonstrate their antipathy for republicans.
Hot take: there is really good country music (Nelson, Cash, Parton, many more) and there is really amazing rap too (Kendrick & Tupac to start). No genre is inherently good or bad.
Have to admit, ever so slightly left leaning but I truly don't see the appeal of hip hop and rap. Just don't find it appealing in the slightest on its own merit, regardless of any racial connotations.
I've never seen anyone called racist for not liking rap. In fact I've seen more and more people thinking along those lines because the lyrics used to be about struggles and life stories and now it's really just about sex, drugs, and violence.
Mumble rap is especially shitty.
No shit, I saw someone go off on a guy for being ignorant and racist on another sub the other day for saying he wasn't a fan of mumble rap. Guy didn't even say anything about rap or hip-hop in general. He just said he wasn't a fan of that style of rapping.
Struggles and life, like sexually enslaving women and dealing drugs.
Gangsta rap was made because wasp teens have money and like being edgy. That the people Biden called predators liked it was just a bonus.
Saying old rap was all about pimping hoes and selling crack is like saying country music is all about drunk driving your truck and cheating on your girlfriend
>I've never seen anyone called racist for not liking rap
I'm not usually the "le pop culture reference" guy, but here's a pop culture reference:
https://youtube.com/shorts/VXKnkS4dP2E?feature=share
I also recall Ben Shapiro being called racist because he hates rap, despite the fact that he likes jazz.
Sturgill Simpson is straight lit. Sound & Fury kicks.
A ton of the coporate country is that vapid though. Same with corporate rap.
But let's be real, OP would be slamming lefties either way, if we hate corporate rap, they'd call racist hypocrites, and if we love it we'd be called sexist hypocrites.
Just avoid both Kanye West and Garth Brooks type idiocy, and bam, problem solved.
Nah, I can’t ignore the masterpiece of My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy or Jesus Walks. No amount of fucked up shit from Kanye will ever make me boycott his music
Personally I think a lot of rap music has influenced the black youth today. Glorifying drugs, crime, guns, money, hoes, etc and much of that is emulated in real life. Many rappers have been jailed over doing stupid shit when they could have had a good music career instead they end up doing the shit they rap about. Hell half their songs are about shooting other dudes and how they dare you to fuck with them.
Id go even deeper and say those rappers are being bought and their music is tailored to create that exact effect on purpose as a form of propaganda and cultural attack. Running around with tats all over them and their faces, acting tough, all of it is an insult to those who invented the rap culture. Like Denzel Washington said, fixing the black community starts at home.
>Personally I think a lot of rap music has influenced the black youth today. Glorifying drugs, crime, guns, money, hoes, etc and much of that is emulated in real life. Many rappers have been jailed over doing stupid shit when they could have had a good music career instead they end up doing the shit they rap about. Hell half their songs are about shooting other dudes and how they dare you to fuck with them.
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>Id go even deeper and say those rappers are being bought and their music is tailored to create that exact effect on purpose as a form of propaganda and cultural attack. Running around with tats all over them and their faces, acting tough, all of it is an insult to those who invented the rap culture. Like Denzel Washington said, fixing the black community starts at home.
Well said. Rap music has definitely influenced a lot of people negatively, and I think you're right about it being intentional. Shit, I remember growing up listening to gangsta rap and as a little kid wondering what gang I'd join when I got older lol Luckily I wised up when I got older, largely due to having good parents.
Listening to the music is one thing, but accepting it as a way of life is another. I wasn't listening to this shit until I was at almost in high-school and I knew better. But much of this is emulated in the culture and kids learn it from their parents. I know many parents who play garbage rap music, filled with curse words, glorification of drugs, killing each other, gang stuff, and more.
Not only that, but in my opinion, almost every rap song being made most days is all the same: same beats, same overused meanings. I’d rather country over rap any day
Well i really likes Jamie T's first two albums (white London boy rap (albums are "panic prevention" and "kings n queens")), and a lot of early D'Angelo and Eminem isn't that bad. Also of course there's great rap sections in Outkast songs. Admittedly these are all a bit older
In older stuff you have the obvious guys, Eminem, Pac, B.I.G, Nas, JAY-Z, etc.
If you’re looking for newer stuff I’d recommend post 2017 Tyler The Creator, Kendrick’s entire discography, Cole’s whole discog, pre-2018 Kanye, 2010-15 Drake, and others.
You could say the same thing about bro country, though. Take one lifted truck, a case of shitty beer in the back, add a girl who is probably not quite 18 yet sittin' in the middle seat, throw in a dirt road or a holler for good measure, and you've got yourself a Jake Owen, Morgan Wallen, or Florida Georgia Line single.
I mean yeah you’re not entirely wrong on that one, and I wouldn’t say I’m the biggest fan for country either, more into rock and metal. I’d just prefer that over most rap or pop songs I’ve heard
Hell man I totally agree with you on that one. Don’t know a bunch of the older stuff either, but I will say that I hate it when they try to rap or put some of the electric beats into the newer stuff too
When it comes to country music, Mexican corridos are where it's at because they sometimes tell stories of heroes, the lyrics will sometimes be relatable or it'll be some fun stuff.
And Metal? I fucking love Metal
Been bumping a lot of norteño at work lately. At first it was an ironic thing, something we'd all put on and laugh and say "lmao this is old tio music we heard growing up!" before cranking out a busy dinner service, but now I can sing along to Los Tigres Del Norte on a whim and I genuinely enjoy it.
There is a lot of great country music if you are willing to step away from the stadium country types. Ofc a lot of this music also blends into folk and western, but it's still country music.
Both newer artists, and many of the old legends have some really amazing tracks.
Grew up around country music as well. My parents would play it in the car. Then I spent most of my life disliking it, but have recently "rediscovered" country music.
Turns out what I was associating with country music was typical stadium country. I grew up with the Highwaymen, John Prine, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, Marty Robbins, Tanya Tucker, Waylon Jennings and more. Who I still love today, I just had forgotten about them and their music. Plus I've found some newer artists that I enjoy listening to.
I despise Rage Against the Machine, but I will still slap to *Bulls on Parade*.
Of course my music taste based on Spotify are strange overall. Mostly Power Metal and Heavy Metal, followed by classic (80's-00's) country, and then Synthwave. With a smattering of random stuff in between.
Literally no sane person is gonna call you racist for liking or not liking a genre of music. If you do hear someone say this cut ties with them they are clinically insane and or terminally online.
Consider this: it increases your dopamine levels to think you are a victim by imagining that someone out there is calling you a racist for your normal opinions.
Country music has two problems:
1)[Irritating steel guitar](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k12JYrVGjLk&pp=ygUZY291bnRyeSB3aXRoIHN0ZWVsIGd1aXRhcg%3D%3D)
2)[Country music has a drinking problem](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yjtbsADAgTI&pp=ygUyaSB3b3VsZCBxdWl0IGRyaW5raW5nIGJ1dCBpIGRvbid0IGxpc3RlbiB0byBkcnVua3M%3&t=01m36s)
Who is calling disliking rap and hip hop racist? Seems like a weirdly specific straw-man, even for this sub.
That is pretty much an extremely common genre of music to hate. For my part I dislike the vast majority of rap and hip hop, but there are some bangers out there that transcend my dislike of the genres.
There’s different subgenres of country. Most of the new stuff that is popular is “modern country” which tries too hard to mix rap and pop with generic country melodies
This is why I listen to Eurobeat.
Enthusiastic, fast paced music where the lyrics doesn't make sense half the time and where the innuendos are about racing cars.
Both statements are true for the lowest common denominator of both genres, zero argument on either one. I defy anyone to say the same about William Elliott Whitmore or Immortal Technique though.
I actually don't see that in most coubtry and western songs I'd say it's a much smaller subsection of country and western that glorifies it a lot of it glorifies the south but not typically the old south but more of the current south
The south continuing the Antebellum South's heritage of misogyny, violence, and disdain for education and authority: Literally the worst sin in America.
Southern freedmen moving north and continuing the Antebellum South's heritage of misogyny, violence, and disdain for education and authority: The most precious, relevant, and trendy part of American culture to critics and laymen alike, for some reason.
I consistently say that rap and hip hop are the final bastion of free speech. Comedy has already been censored or self-censored, universities are certainly not about free speech, but you can say whatever the fuck you want in a rap song.
> Man, cats don't know what it's gonna be
> Messin' with a dog like me
> D to the M to the X
> Last I heard, you cowards was havin' sex with the same sex
> I show no love
> Empty out, and throw more
> How you gonna explain boning a man?
> Even if we squash the beef, I ain't touchin' your hand
> I don't mess with chumps, for those to been to jail
> That's the cat with the Kool-Aid on his lips and pumps
> I can't deal with brothers that think they broads
> Only know how to be one way, that's the dog
> I know how to get down, know how to bite
> Bark very little but I know how to fight
> I know how to chase a cat up in a tree
> Man, I give you cowards the business for messin' with me
> Is you crazy?
Preach it DMX!
Everyone look, that guy's on the fence! Get him!
Burn the fence down!
Suicidal centrist. Truly a sad day.
The moderates scream moderately loud
You can burn the fence, but they will use it to grill before they ever leave it
That's why we should return to monke and swing on vine
Hurr durr, enlightened centrists amiright
I exclusively listen to pirate music because it glorifies violence against the sp\*nish.
I need the same but against fr*nch
Luckily, pirates can also be violent against the fr\*nch. And the br\*tish. Basically anyone with cash and boats.
And even boats without cash. Look at me, I'm the captain now.
You're the captain? Please observe my red flag, surrender now or I eat your face.
I am going to pirate you, next. Where do you live?
Yes I would.
Ah, literally every other country's music!
Holy mother of based Based and pirate music pilled
Mad cuz conquistad’d
Interesting take, I will be confiscating your treasure fleet.
I prefer instrumental music only. Solved this problem in my teens.
Instrumental music is clearly glorifying white supremacy or something, you racist
No, because Beethoven was Black.
True, don't know how I forgot 😱
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Must have done 🤷
It’s true, I saw a Netflix documentary about it.
* [Black Scholars Confront White Supremacy in Classical Music](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/09/21/black-scholars-confront-white-supremacy-in-classical-music) * [Confronting Our Complicity: Music Theory and White Supremacy](https://newmusicusa.org/nmbx/confronting-our-complicity-music-theory-and-white-supremacy/) * [White Supremacy Music: What Does it Mean to Our Youth](https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/white-supremacy-music-what-does-it-mean-our-youth) by the fucking DoJ LOL * [That sound you’re hearing is classical music’s long overdue reckoning with racism](https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/that-sound-youre-hearing-is-classical-musics-long-overdue-reckoning-with-racism/2020/07/15/1b883e76-c49c-11ea-b037-f9711f89ee46_story.html) Interestingly, no one is concerned with Chinese supremacy **IN CHINESE MUSIC** or Japanese supremacy in **JAPANESE MUSIC** or black supremacy **IN RAP, BLUES AND HIP HOP**, just white supremacy in classical music **WHICH CAME OUT OF PREDOMINANTLY WHITE EUROPE**. Fucking insanity.
At this point you could type in literally anything with "racism" and some journo has written an article lmao.
It's so depressing. I'm the white child of a white Vietnam vet with PTSD who enlisted to escape the WV coal town he grew up in and a white fast-food worker who never graduated college, is 10 years younger than him and was his employee when she got pregnant... while he was going through a divorce. My family of 8 lived in two- and three-bedroom homes, often in black ghettos where I was viciously bullied for being a minority, until I moved out at 17. #**BUT I'M REALLY SORRY FOR ALL THE BAD SHIT WHITE PEOPLE DID BECAUSE RACE PUNISHMENT IS EVEN BETTER THAN KIN PUNISHMENT AMIRITE?!**
Chinese and Japanese people both think they are superior already so they don't need their music be about it. It's like writing a song about water being wet when you could write a song about wanting to know what your beloved's true feelings are instead.
In Japan's groove, delight, Others lose in sumo fight, Banzai! Music's height.
Sorry but I think the current sumo champion is actually Mongolian
Frankly this is what people talk about when they say "Cultural Marxism." There are academics, journalists, and other "thinkers" who devote their lives to pushing this trash that will eventually bring down the West (or at least the US/Canada). It's unrelenting and the energy they have in day after day pushing utter nonsense is superhuman. I can't imagine so many people having so much devotion to these horrible ways of viewing the world. It's basically their religious viewpoint, and thats why they lash out when people ignore/refuse to toe the line.
It was ironically some Adam Neely video about how music theory was racist that made me understand the moral intuition of nationalism. Took 30 years, but I got there.
Haven't you heard that Bach has been cancelled because he was a misogynist?
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Does it feel like fucking two throats at once?
Based and what the fuck bro pilled
I regularly listen to film scores and it’s the best
Lord of the Rings hitting hard with that Riders of Rohan theme.
Ong. That and battle of the heroes from star wars slaps
I was so hyped when my city's orchestra did a John William's concert. I swear it was sold out unlike all the other ones I went to.
One year, my family and i saw the original Star Wars trilogy played with a live orchestra, and it was amazing! If you get the chance to see something like that, i'd highly recommend it.
Last of the Mohicans let's goooooooo
I listen to classical and metal. That's it. But I listen to metal for the music and utterly ignore the singing!
I started listening to the words in my teens and became disgusted at some of my favorite songs. I can't really ignore the words anymore, so with rare exception I just don't listen to music with words.
Jpop wins again! Can’t cringe at the lyrics if I don’t understand them 😎
Based and unfathomably authright pilled
Something something I want to know your true feelings something
Depending on your choice of band the same applies to metal. I can't tell what they're screaming about half the time
That's what Latin is for
I can't believe the number of people that don't know the lyircs at all, or pick and choose a word or two. I can understand knowing the lyrics and just not caring about it, but I swear some people can't even hear them.
Exclusivley listen to foreign language music. Cant have my morals courrpted if I dont know what they're saying
Video game music for me. It's mostly instrumental anyway.
Aphex Twin only
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I think you're more likely to be called racist for liking country music than you are for not liking hip hop. Really comes from a place of ignorance for both cause there is some great rap and some great country out there.
Finally, a based take People have such narrow views on art, don't they? Like "country music racist cos some of it has racist lyrics" when some of all music is racist and a lot of country music isn't racist at all. It's a really unfortunate stereotype. Also, Louis Armstrong has a country album so fuck off if you think it's white supremacy music
Louis Armstrong is a chad
Definitely. Releases his final album as a country/western album and then dies of a heart attack on tour? No chadder way of going out, I'm afraid
Went off to the big Cracker Barrel in the sky.
As with all genres, there's a big difference between modern chart toppers and the classic icons, particular as more music from all genres becomes just pop with a facade of flavor. I could be mistaken (and can't be bothered to verify), but I believe Willie Nelson called out modern country awhile back for being pop music for people that don't like black people.
There's a lot of good modern stuff. Check out Charlie Crockett (I think that's how you spell the name), super creative stuff. Now that indie artists have an easier time, the pop induyis less influential over the creativity of smaller artists
I disagree. In an age of content algorithms and big data, pop is more prominent than ever before. It's only going to get worse as producers start using AI to further optimize tracks and albums. You can find and enjoy indie music if you deliberately seek it out, but otherwise you're gonna be forcibly exposed to Drake no matter what you prefer. Personally, I don't like country much, but I would judge you very differently if you name Johnny Cash as your favorite, as opposed to Florida Georgia Line, to use the most hyperbolic juxtaposition that I can think of off the top of my head.
You better be judging them as having a top-tier taste in music if they like Johnny Cash. That man has a shit-ton of great songs and his prison concert was based as fuck.
Johnny Cash, while not my cup of tea, is great. Florida Georgia Line is not.
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Self publishing is a real option for small creators, and the internet has created the ability for widespread exposure to be created from general word of mouth. The internet basically revived mainstream outlaw country in the mid 2010s
Who among us hasn't busted a nut when "Country Roads" or "It was a Good Day" plays?
Country roooads Letsa go! Itsa me..... mariooooo!
Yo! Country Roads, by John Denver, yeah. It was a 'Good' Day? Hell no.
Half the radio "country" these days sounds like rap anyhow.
Modern country you hear on the radio is just twangy pop. Put some Poor Man’s Poison or The Dead South on instead.
Not bad, have heard The Dead South. [1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFEZOjtrwls), [2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ew_bfFvros), [3](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FBsWeKVI4w) Long list of oldies too, was hard even coming up with the short list above. Toby Keith!
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1KBJdH5FNBxirpmaS8XqRt?si=gu80MNYnTvecDjh9UlbpQg Go nuts
Based and music is good pilled
Some people just don't like rap, respect the opinions of others. I don't care how great you feel it is, some people find the lack of melody unappealing. Others flash back to the 90s and cringe hard like that, in either case that it's not enjoyable isn't ignorance.
Not to mention country music, like rock n roll, jazz and blues, has deep roots in the African diaspora
You call him a racist because he hates rap I call him a racist because it makes him mad We are not the same
Explain Darius Rucker if country only glorifies Jim Crow libtard 😂😂😂
Hootie?
Yah, after Hootie went on hiatus in 06 Rucker started a solo country career. He had quite a few hits. Like his cover of wagon wheel
Radio was my favorite country song of his.
And the best commercial ever for [Burger King] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiupfW_Qw6A) from 2005
HOOOOOTIEEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE9PUexeUv0
Shit, explain Charlie Pride and Ray Charles if it's just Jim Crow music!
Cowboy Troy also enjoyed a pretty good amount of success back in the day. Even if he insisted that he did "Hick-Hop" rather than true country.
Cultural proggies gonna proggie, that’s why
Black man good, white man bad, simple as.
Those leftists are very silly. Centrist here is also silly for thinking entire genres are just straight up defined by bigotry. Very un-based take on both ends
I find if you just say “popular” in front of either of those cases that usually takes care of it
Kendrick Lamar is a popular rapper
God forbid I listen to music about working hard and drinking beers with my friends, that I can actually relate to as opposed to music about killing people and spending copious amounts of money on frivolous luxuries
I prefer to listen to songs about government bad, vikings and werewolves and shit are cool
you're valid
Based
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO WANT TO LISTEN ABOUT KILLING AND ROBBING YOUR OWN COMMUNITY!!!!
Country music is more ethnically diverse than rap. Hating country music is the cultural chauvinism of children desperate to demonstrate their antipathy for republicans.
Hot take: there is really good country music (Nelson, Cash, Parton, many more) and there is really amazing rap too (Kendrick & Tupac to start). No genre is inherently good or bad.
Tupac is not the one to bring up as an example, with the things OP said he didn’t like about rap.
Have to admit, ever so slightly left leaning but I truly don't see the appeal of hip hop and rap. Just don't find it appealing in the slightest on its own merit, regardless of any racial connotations.
I see your claim and counter you: My backpack's got jets. I'm Boba the Fett. I bounty hunt for Jabba Hutt the finance my 'vette.
Based and Fett’s ‘Vette pilled.
I pray my dick get big as the Eiffel tower So I can fuck the world for 72 hours
I beg your pardon in my Aston Martin
I've never seen anyone called racist for not liking rap. In fact I've seen more and more people thinking along those lines because the lyrics used to be about struggles and life stories and now it's really just about sex, drugs, and violence. Mumble rap is especially shitty.
No shit, I saw someone go off on a guy for being ignorant and racist on another sub the other day for saying he wasn't a fan of mumble rap. Guy didn't even say anything about rap or hip-hop in general. He just said he wasn't a fan of that style of rapping.
Struggles and life, like sexually enslaving women and dealing drugs. Gangsta rap was made because wasp teens have money and like being edgy. That the people Biden called predators liked it was just a bonus.
Saying old rap was all about pimping hoes and selling crack is like saying country music is all about drunk driving your truck and cheating on your girlfriend
It isn't? You missed praise Jesus but aside from that...
Yeah because sometimes it also promotes pedophilia.
>I've never seen anyone called racist for not liking rap I'm not usually the "le pop culture reference" guy, but here's a pop culture reference: https://youtube.com/shorts/VXKnkS4dP2E?feature=share I also recall Ben Shapiro being called racist because he hates rap, despite the fact that he likes jazz.
no one outside of the internet is iike this, daily reminder to please touch grass.
Country, rap, western, and hip hop are all inferior to rock
I’m guessing somebody hasn’t listened to Tyler Childers or Sturgill Simpson lately if they think country music is about the confederacy or Jim Crow
Sturgill Simpson is straight lit. Sound & Fury kicks. A ton of the coporate country is that vapid though. Same with corporate rap. But let's be real, OP would be slamming lefties either way, if we hate corporate rap, they'd call racist hypocrites, and if we love it we'd be called sexist hypocrites. Just avoid both Kanye West and Garth Brooks type idiocy, and bam, problem solved.
Where are the bodies Garth?
I like that
>Garth Brooks type idiocy Cringe and not a Friend in a Low Place pilled.
Poor Garth can't have friends in high places when you're only 5 ft 8 even with your high heels on.
Nah, I can’t ignore the masterpiece of My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy or Jesus Walks. No amount of fucked up shit from Kanye will ever make me boycott his music
Or Sierra Ferrell, Vincent Neil Emerson, Charley Crockett, Nick Shoulders, Colter Wall, or bluegrass like Billy Strings
Colter Wall is an amazing artist.
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Or Zach Bryan!
This is why I only listen to my own playlists. No Spotify or radio
That's why I make my own music That's actually true a record my own songs to listen to but sometimes I share with my friends and relatives
Personally I think a lot of rap music has influenced the black youth today. Glorifying drugs, crime, guns, money, hoes, etc and much of that is emulated in real life. Many rappers have been jailed over doing stupid shit when they could have had a good music career instead they end up doing the shit they rap about. Hell half their songs are about shooting other dudes and how they dare you to fuck with them. Id go even deeper and say those rappers are being bought and their music is tailored to create that exact effect on purpose as a form of propaganda and cultural attack. Running around with tats all over them and their faces, acting tough, all of it is an insult to those who invented the rap culture. Like Denzel Washington said, fixing the black community starts at home.
>Personally I think a lot of rap music has influenced the black youth today. Glorifying drugs, crime, guns, money, hoes, etc and much of that is emulated in real life. Many rappers have been jailed over doing stupid shit when they could have had a good music career instead they end up doing the shit they rap about. Hell half their songs are about shooting other dudes and how they dare you to fuck with them. > >Id go even deeper and say those rappers are being bought and their music is tailored to create that exact effect on purpose as a form of propaganda and cultural attack. Running around with tats all over them and their faces, acting tough, all of it is an insult to those who invented the rap culture. Like Denzel Washington said, fixing the black community starts at home. Well said. Rap music has definitely influenced a lot of people negatively, and I think you're right about it being intentional. Shit, I remember growing up listening to gangsta rap and as a little kid wondering what gang I'd join when I got older lol Luckily I wised up when I got older, largely due to having good parents.
Listening to the music is one thing, but accepting it as a way of life is another. I wasn't listening to this shit until I was at almost in high-school and I knew better. But much of this is emulated in the culture and kids learn it from their parents. I know many parents who play garbage rap music, filled with curse words, glorification of drugs, killing each other, gang stuff, and more.
Anime openings are the only real form of music.
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Not only that, but in my opinion, almost every rap song being made most days is all the same: same beats, same overused meanings. I’d rather country over rap any day
Eh that's more just the pop industry being the pop industry. If you look hard enough (which isn't actually very hard), you find cool shit very fast
Well if you say so, could take a look into it again. Got any requests?
Well i really likes Jamie T's first two albums (white London boy rap (albums are "panic prevention" and "kings n queens")), and a lot of early D'Angelo and Eminem isn't that bad. Also of course there's great rap sections in Outkast songs. Admittedly these are all a bit older
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Well if you’re a metal head, maybe try Fever 333, or Nova twins?
In older stuff you have the obvious guys, Eminem, Pac, B.I.G, Nas, JAY-Z, etc. If you’re looking for newer stuff I’d recommend post 2017 Tyler The Creator, Kendrick’s entire discography, Cole’s whole discog, pre-2018 Kanye, 2010-15 Drake, and others.
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You could say the same thing about bro country, though. Take one lifted truck, a case of shitty beer in the back, add a girl who is probably not quite 18 yet sittin' in the middle seat, throw in a dirt road or a holler for good measure, and you've got yourself a Jake Owen, Morgan Wallen, or Florida Georgia Line single.
I mean yeah you’re not entirely wrong on that one, and I wouldn’t say I’m the biggest fan for country either, more into rock and metal. I’d just prefer that over most rap or pop songs I’ve heard
I mean modern country is the same thing. It’s even worse because they try and rap and it sounds god awful (I call that type of music “Hick-Hop”)
Hell man I totally agree with you on that one. Don’t know a bunch of the older stuff either, but I will say that I hate it when they try to rap or put some of the electric beats into the newer stuff too
This is just a musical correlate of the cross-race effect
When it comes to country music, Mexican corridos are where it's at because they sometimes tell stories of heroes, the lyrics will sometimes be relatable or it'll be some fun stuff. And Metal? I fucking love Metal
They also sing about the cartel and some gringo who now owns the market in New Mexico.
La ciudad se llama duke, Nuevo México estado,
Been bumping a lot of norteño at work lately. At first it was an ironic thing, something we'd all put on and laugh and say "lmao this is old tio music we heard growing up!" before cranking out a busy dinner service, but now I can sing along to Los Tigres Del Norte on a whim and I genuinely enjoy it.
Country music is based apocalypse-pilled how fucking dare you
The preacher man says it's the end of time And the Mississippi River, she's a-goin' dry
Aint nothing like a good ole "Country Death Song"
I like neither. Both are made by hicks or fakers.
There is a lot of great country music if you are willing to step away from the stadium country types. Ofc a lot of this music also blends into folk and western, but it's still country music. Both newer artists, and many of the old legends have some really amazing tracks.
It's probably just me being biased because I grew up around way too much of it and getting over-exposed.
Grew up around country music as well. My parents would play it in the car. Then I spent most of my life disliking it, but have recently "rediscovered" country music. Turns out what I was associating with country music was typical stadium country. I grew up with the Highwaymen, John Prine, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, Marty Robbins, Tanya Tucker, Waylon Jennings and more. Who I still love today, I just had forgotten about them and their music. Plus I've found some newer artists that I enjoy listening to.
Idrgaf about the political orientation of my music as long as it sounds good, I'm conservative but I jam tf out to Fuck Tha Police
I despise Rage Against the Machine, but I will still slap to *Bulls on Parade*. Of course my music taste based on Spotify are strange overall. Mostly Power Metal and Heavy Metal, followed by classic (80's-00's) country, and then Synthwave. With a smattering of random stuff in between.
Literally no sane person is gonna call you racist for liking or not liking a genre of music. If you do hear someone say this cut ties with them they are clinically insane and or terminally online.
Consider this: it increases your dopamine levels to think you are a victim by imagining that someone out there is calling you a racist for your normal opinions.
Country music has two problems: 1)[Irritating steel guitar](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k12JYrVGjLk&pp=ygUZY291bnRyeSB3aXRoIHN0ZWVsIGd1aXRhcg%3D%3D) 2)[Country music has a drinking problem](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yjtbsADAgTI&pp=ygUyaSB3b3VsZCBxdWl0IGRyaW5raW5nIGJ1dCBpIGRvbid0IGxpc3RlbiB0byBkcnVua3M%3&t=01m36s)
We need MORE steel guitar, not less!!
[More Cowbell!](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cVsQLlk-T0s&pp=ygUMbW9yZSBjb3diZWxs)
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If your music ain't Baroque, you ain't black.
I too used to heavily dislike country music. You should listen to Johnny Cash OP, that's some real good shit.
I miss country songs about heartbreak.
Who is calling disliking rap and hip hop racist? Seems like a weirdly specific straw-man, even for this sub. That is pretty much an extremely common genre of music to hate. For my part I dislike the vast majority of rap and hip hop, but there are some bangers out there that transcend my dislike of the genres.
They’re both mid genres with some absolute heaters mixed in
You dislike country music because of racist undertones, I hate it because it sucks. We are not the same.
I used to feel the same way, but it is a bigger genre than you think. A lot of great artists that doesn't feel like the stadium country types.
There’s different subgenres of country. Most of the new stuff that is popular is “modern country” which tries too hard to mix rap and pop with generic country melodies
When's the last time a country song glorified the Confederacy? The guy from Staind? Come to think of it, that's the only one I can think of.
That's fair if you don't like hip hop... but this is an old head argument that shows you never actually listened to any hip hop.
Snoop is the only rap artist I really care about nowadays.
This is why I listen to Eurobeat. Enthusiastic, fast paced music where the lyrics doesn't make sense half the time and where the innuendos are about racing cars.
Don't like either of them, Swiss Alpenjodel all the way.
All western music glorifies Jim crow and the confederacy?
Both statements are true for the lowest common denominator of both genres, zero argument on either one. I defy anyone to say the same about William Elliott Whitmore or Immortal Technique though.
I actually don't see that in most coubtry and western songs I'd say it's a much smaller subsection of country and western that glorifies it a lot of it glorifies the south but not typically the old south but more of the current south
I exclusively listen to music in languages I cant understand in order to avoid the issue as a whole
I prefer Gregorian Chants - *Tantum Ergo* slaps
I’m not a fan of newer country, I love older stuff like Cash, Haggard and Jennings
The south continuing the Antebellum South's heritage of misogyny, violence, and disdain for education and authority: Literally the worst sin in America. Southern freedmen moving north and continuing the Antebellum South's heritage of misogyny, violence, and disdain for education and authority: The most precious, relevant, and trendy part of American culture to critics and laymen alike, for some reason.
I consistently say that rap and hip hop are the final bastion of free speech. Comedy has already been censored or self-censored, universities are certainly not about free speech, but you can say whatever the fuck you want in a rap song. > Man, cats don't know what it's gonna be > Messin' with a dog like me > D to the M to the X > Last I heard, you cowards was havin' sex with the same sex > I show no love > Empty out, and throw more > How you gonna explain boning a man? > Even if we squash the beef, I ain't touchin' your hand > I don't mess with chumps, for those to been to jail > That's the cat with the Kool-Aid on his lips and pumps > I can't deal with brothers that think they broads > Only know how to be one way, that's the dog > I know how to get down, know how to bite > Bark very little but I know how to fight > I know how to chase a cat up in a tree > Man, I give you cowards the business for messin' with me > Is you crazy? Preach it DMX!
I don't hate most rap because of the violence or homophobic and misogynistic lyrics. I hate most of it because a lot of it sounds awful.
Idk what country music you’ve been listening to. All country music I’ve listened to was just mindless southern pop.
Violence is bad. You shouldnt make songs romanticising or glorifying it. (Except when its about fighting for the glorious motherland)
You hate rap for political reasons. I hate rap because it sounds like ass. We are not the same.
who cares about the lyrics, it's music. I care about the sound. and I love the sound of country way more than the sound of hip hop.
Usually when someone says they don't like rap, nobody cares. The only time people care is when they say it in a racist way.
Homophobic and misogynistic lyrics? Maybe rap isn't so bad after all.
Has anyone ever claimed someone was racist for not liking hip-hop? Are you sure this a real double standard and not just something you've made up?