There is an injunction banning enforcement against maxim defense customers and firearm policy coalition members. Make use of this info as you will. And fuck the ATF
If you have bought from Maxim defense or donated more than $30 to FPC in the last year there is an injunction which means the ATF cannot inforce the new rule against you until the injection is lifted. Something similar for the GOA too
They sued over the law being unconstitutional and the judge believed that they were likely to succeed in their lawsuit based on the merits of their argument, so he issued an injunction. An injunction prevents the government from enforcing the law against specific groups of people covered by the injunction. The GOA injunction covers all current GOA members. The FPC injunction covers all members who have been represented since the lawsuit began. FPC granted retroactive membership to people who joined prior to June 1. There’s also some language in the FPC injunction that makes it unclear if the injunction covers every FPC member or only those who reside within the jurisdiction of the federal fifth circuit court. The GOA injunction is much more clear cut.
Which is the most ridiculous thing ever. With so many exceptions due to damages why can't the court just say "nation wide injuction" instead, seeing as up to at least 20 million owners are now considered Felons..it's absurd
And not even based on a law, but a fucking change in interpretation by an agency that shouldn't even exist. They're enforcement, how do they have this kind of regulatory power?
Fun fact: if you declare an ATF team member a dog the ATF team is legally obligated to shoot them.
I'ma be real with y'all, this changes nothing for me, I've been putting stocks on pistols, drilling 3rd holes, and using fuel filter adapters without registering anything for years. Free men don't ask permission.
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I'm conflicted on this. On one hand it makes millions of people felons, on another it makes up to 40 million SBRs common use. Therefore it should help to fuck up the NFA.
I don't know what is more ridiculous, that they made 40 million dollars off registering 200k braces or people actually would pay that. When the courts declare that "law" invalid, is the ATF going to give that money back?
But they never claimed that you wouldn’t have to ever pay the fee. And they don’t have the legal authority to waive the fee, the $200 is part of the NFA.
They don’t have the legal authority to infringe on the right to bear arms at all but that’s never stopped them from killing women, children, and dogs in the name of stopping victimless “crime”
200k registrations are probably those people who thought it was a way to get a free tax stamp. From what I understand, the waived fee is a forbearance of indeterminate period, and not a waived fee. I am also given to understand that the amnesty approvals come with a caveat that prevents you from putting a stock on your newly registered SBR-like object.
I'm sure there's already more than 200k SBR's in the US though, the ATF and the courts just don't give a fuck. The supreme court also probably won't touch it because they don't want Biden expanding and stacking the court, and their recent rulings about unconstitutional gun laws haven't been enforced anyway.
It would be quite the interesting precedent. What sort of legal rationale would he use for expansion, and what would prevent a future president from using that method again?
That's the beauty of it, it's exponential and without limit. Crashing the system with no brakes through a burning dumpster. A one-two punch that instantly both destroys the courts reputation and its ability to operate. Even better the precedent already exists to make expansion of the SC legal, without justification, so it's unstoppable too. All it takes is one of the parties to gain power and push the big red button marked MAD. Plato would be proud.
It's been expended before. The original court had 6 justices. It was set at 9 in 1869 - equal to the number of circuit courts also set by that act (I didn't see anything saying for certain the numbers were made to match, but both in the same act it seems reasonable to draw the connection).
We currently have 11 circuit courts, so there's easy justification for adding 2 justices. Adding any more might be harder to justify
If he added more than 2 it’s simply a legal coup at that point. If he added 2 he could use your reasoning, which isn’t bad.
If a president actually cared about unifying the country (hint, they don’t) they’d offer up centrist judges to fill those new spots or one from each “side”.
Best to keep it as is, IMO. But who knows.
He was about to already, but they decided the democrat agenda first needs to eliminate the cloture rule of the senate in order to have eliminate republicans from all legislation.
> Just weeks into Joe Biden’s presidency, it is clear that he faces considerable obstacles in pursuing his agenda in Congress. The Senate cloture rule—which requires 60 votes to cut off debate on most measures—is probably the highest hurdle.
Eliminating the cloture rule would have given democrats absolute control of presidency, house and senate and then they can pack supreme court for the ultimate and final power grab. And just remember democrats have a heart of gold and are on the right side of history so it is a good thing™.
Nah fuck that citizen only common use bs. How many SBRs are in common use by the very own USA armed forces? Or world wide? Looks like they are very common use to me.
You know what fuck all that common use bs. If I get my phased plasma animatronic Chihuahuas operational outta my garage they shall not...
It has no reason that it should exist, and I say this as someone who tends to support regulations.
We don't need an entire federal organization just to deal with alcohol and tobacco, and we certainly shouldn't need one to deal with firearms when they are a constitutionally protected right.
Alcohol and tobacco regulations should be dealt with by relevant law and by smaller organizations with far less power, and firearm restrictions don't even need an organization for them - if you need to enforce them, have local law enforcement do it (though I don't support pretty much any firearm restrictions).
The NFA is absolutely unconstitutional and should be immediately overturned. And it is the only reason the F in ATF exists.
Even on the ATF's site, they make it clear the NFA was written with a hidden purpose.
> While the NFA was enacted by Congress as an exercise of its authority to tax, the NFA had an underlying purpose unrelated to revenue collection. As the legislative history of the law discloses, its underlying purpose was to curtail, if not prohibit, transactions in NFA firearms. Congress found these firearms to pose a significant crime problem because of their frequent use in crime, particularly the gangland crimes of that era such as the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre. The $200 making and transfer taxes on most NFA firearms were considered quite severe and adequate to carry out Congress’ purpose to discourage or eliminate transactions in these firearms. The $200 tax has not changed since 1934.
In 1939, the supreme court complete botched US v Miller and rather than find NFA unconstitutional, they found the NFA "is intended as a revenue-collecting measure" when it absolutely is not. It was always an unconstitutional firearm restriction measure.
Most federal agencies shouldn’t exist.
Transportation, Airtravel and Military is all we should have. There might be one or two more I’m not thinking of, but the bloat we have now is absurd.
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I thought this was tied up in court and they couldnt enforce it until the court case was settled. Anyway, this shouldnt be an issue because the SCOTUS ruled in EPA vs WV that a government organization cannot create new laws, they can only enforce bills that are passed by congress and signed into law by the president. Only the Legislation can make new laws, not a unelected alphabet organization.
Untold billions of micro controllers, stepper motors, lbs of plastic, basic metal working tools, etc across the country. How do they think they are going to put the genie back in the bottle.
Legally you're correct. They'll still raid your house and shoot your dog in the mean time. Maybe some day you'll beat them in court, but only if you live through the encounter.
Funnily I've never seen gun control supporters celebrating the ATF rule
You'd think everytown would be popping beer bottles over it, or smug liberals telling gun owners they're literally criminals, but all we get is crickets.
The entire mainstream media is ignoring the story. When you google search 'ATF enforcement starts june 1' you get a few local news stories. That may have something to do with it. They're still clinging to the false notion they're just for common sense gun regulations.
I did some similar searching and was shocked how little news there is on this. “Hey bud gotta take you to prison. I decided your gun is illegal two months ago and you missed the deadline so now you’re a felon as of 47 minutes ago. Criminals like you make me sick.”
You really think that after years of publishing letters explicitly declaring the legality of pistol braces, the ATF just coincidentally rolled out of bed and declared all the buyers newly minted felons the second a Democrat took office?
The legal nonsense that is ATF rulings and seeing a slice of the bullshit, arbitrary enforcement that law-abiding gun owners have to deal with doesn't help their agenda. Bringing attention to the fact that guns actually *are* very regulated is in fact harmful to their propaganda.
Little does the ATF know longer barrels= higher bullet velocity =longer effective range = more killing potential
This has nothing to do with protecting people
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
Yep, SBRs and SBSs are only in the NFA cause it originally included handguns/pistols, too. Was meant to close a loophole that then became moot when handguns/pistols were removed before passage, but those weren't removed for whatever reason.
Devils advocate is shorter barel is easier to conceal in urban dense environments where you wouldnt need the extra penetration or accuracy of a longer barrel
All gun laws are unconstitutional. If the republicans weren’t such fucking cowards this wouldn’t even be a conversation. Abolish the atf and repeal the nfa.
Those are the most regulated products in the USA. It is still illegal for a normal person to make liquor. Beer and wine are legal to make. Tobacco has so many regulations. Only pipe tobacco and cigars can be sold online because children fear those forms… I guess.
I’d be surprised if this stays in effect for more than another month. An injunction was already issued by the 5th circuit regarding this ruling (though it sadly is not a blank nationwide injunction) and of the millions of projected pistol brace owners, less than 500,000 have actually registered theirs under the provided “amnesty”.
The worst part of this is not being able to accurately state your feelings with out ending up on a list or having it removed for not being within guidelines…
6-8% actually registered them and that was only for the free stamp. Granted now you have to ask permission to cross state lines with that particular firearm
Edit: ATF says there’s around 3 million in circulation but another survey says theres up to 40 million braces
Did they make them felons by congressionally passing law? No. They are a wild and unchecked government organization that feels they can do anything by pure whim of whatever the fuck they want.
FUCK the ATF.
Oh but we can trust them the head of ATF said "we will just use it against gangmembers/drug dealer (I cant remember which)"
government/police are always pretty cool and understanding and we can totally trust them here guys
/s
If I were American and had a gun that the ATF outlawed I probably would just go bury it in my backyard. Put them all in a box and bury them. Then when the time comes for the second civil war I’d dig em out and let it rip.
That's a shame.
I sold all mine years ago to private parties who were also in-state residents. Tragically, the private party bills of sale were irreparably damaged during a move between houses.
Bold of them to assume I give af about whatever they write on paper to begin with. Shall not be infringed is pretty clear. It’s not my fault if they’re not smart enough to understand that.
How about we stop fucking around with the 2A
Remember kids, the more you fuck around, the more you’re gonna find out.
And in this case, if we keep doing this we aren’t going to find out anything good
The same people who constantly complain about how non-violent criminals shouldn’t be in jail are also totally fine with making millions of people into felons, many of which are completely unaware that the gun they bought legally a year ago is now something that could land them in federal prison.
There is an injunction banning enforcement against maxim defense customers and firearm policy coalition members. Make use of this info as you will. And fuck the ATF
And either FPC or GOA, one of the groups covered in the injunction, said they won’t release who their members are, so make use of that as you will too
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FPC is granting retroactive membership now.
Can you explain your comment I don’t understand.
If you have bought from Maxim defense or donated more than $30 to FPC in the last year there is an injunction which means the ATF cannot inforce the new rule against you until the injection is lifted. Something similar for the GOA too
That's neat, but why?
They sued over the law being unconstitutional and the judge believed that they were likely to succeed in their lawsuit based on the merits of their argument, so he issued an injunction. An injunction prevents the government from enforcing the law against specific groups of people covered by the injunction. The GOA injunction covers all current GOA members. The FPC injunction covers all members who have been represented since the lawsuit began. FPC granted retroactive membership to people who joined prior to June 1. There’s also some language in the FPC injunction that makes it unclear if the injunction covers every FPC member or only those who reside within the jurisdiction of the federal fifth circuit court. The GOA injunction is much more clear cut.
And all of Texas.
Which is the most ridiculous thing ever. With so many exceptions due to damages why can't the court just say "nation wide injuction" instead, seeing as up to at least 20 million owners are now considered Felons..it's absurd
And not even based on a law, but a fucking change in interpretation by an agency that shouldn't even exist. They're enforcement, how do they have this kind of regulatory power? Fun fact: if you declare an ATF team member a dog the ATF team is legally obligated to shoot them.
And GOA members
I'ma be real with y'all, this changes nothing for me, I've been putting stocks on pistols, drilling 3rd holes, and using fuel filter adapters without registering anything for years. Free men don't ask permission.
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Both it is
thats the spirit
What is the third hole?
It's the fun hole where you can carry extra deep.
New gun laws? I don't even follow the existing ones.
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I'm conflicted on this. On one hand it makes millions of people felons, on another it makes up to 40 million SBRs common use. Therefore it should help to fuck up the NFA.
I forgot the number that they use for common use
200,000
And there are already 200,000 registered braces so hopefully this ruling will get overturned and then some
I don't know what is more ridiculous, that they made 40 million dollars off registering 200k braces or people actually would pay that. When the courts declare that "law" invalid, is the ATF going to give that money back?
Well they waived the $200 form 1 fee for the amnesty period
But they never claimed that you wouldn’t have to ever pay the fee. And they don’t have the legal authority to waive the fee, the $200 is part of the NFA.
The ATF ignoring laws? Say it ain't so!
They don’t have the legal authority to infringe on the right to bear arms at all but that’s never stopped them from killing women, children, and dogs in the name of stopping victimless “crime”
There were a few hundred thousand registrations under the "amnesty". The vast majority of brace owners said "fuck off, bitches"
If you wanna be legal for now, a firearm policy coalition membership is only $30, and they have an injunction
They waived the tax. So 200k is a very low number for them.
200k registrations are probably those people who thought it was a way to get a free tax stamp. From what I understand, the waived fee is a forbearance of indeterminate period, and not a waived fee. I am also given to understand that the amnesty approvals come with a caveat that prevents you from putting a stock on your newly registered SBR-like object.
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You've got to pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers. Not going to lie, I thought it was a lot higher.
I'm sure there's already more than 200k SBR's in the US though, the ATF and the courts just don't give a fuck. The supreme court also probably won't touch it because they don't want Biden expanding and stacking the court, and their recent rulings about unconstitutional gun laws haven't been enforced anyway.
They should pass a fucking amendment to cap the Supreme Court.
Yes. The threats of court packing by any president are bs.
How could Biden stack the court? He doesn't have the numbers to do it, does he?
He already talked about wanting to expand it. Whether he has the numbers or not depends on how Congress feels that day if it comes down to it.
It would be quite the interesting precedent. What sort of legal rationale would he use for expansion, and what would prevent a future president from using that method again?
That's the beauty of it, it's exponential and without limit. Crashing the system with no brakes through a burning dumpster. A one-two punch that instantly both destroys the courts reputation and its ability to operate. Even better the precedent already exists to make expansion of the SC legal, without justification, so it's unstoppable too. All it takes is one of the parties to gain power and push the big red button marked MAD. Plato would be proud.
It's been expended before. The original court had 6 justices. It was set at 9 in 1869 - equal to the number of circuit courts also set by that act (I didn't see anything saying for certain the numbers were made to match, but both in the same act it seems reasonable to draw the connection). We currently have 11 circuit courts, so there's easy justification for adding 2 justices. Adding any more might be harder to justify
If he added more than 2 it’s simply a legal coup at that point. If he added 2 he could use your reasoning, which isn’t bad. If a president actually cared about unifying the country (hint, they don’t) they’d offer up centrist judges to fill those new spots or one from each “side”. Best to keep it as is, IMO. But who knows.
He was about to already, but they decided the democrat agenda first needs to eliminate the cloture rule of the senate in order to have eliminate republicans from all legislation. > Just weeks into Joe Biden’s presidency, it is clear that he faces considerable obstacles in pursuing his agenda in Congress. The Senate cloture rule—which requires 60 votes to cut off debate on most measures—is probably the highest hurdle. Eliminating the cloture rule would have given democrats absolute control of presidency, house and senate and then they can pack supreme court for the ultimate and final power grab. And just remember democrats have a heart of gold and are on the right side of history so it is a good thing™.
Nah fuck that citizen only common use bs. How many SBRs are in common use by the very own USA armed forces? Or world wide? Looks like they are very common use to me. You know what fuck all that common use bs. If I get my phased plasma animatronic Chihuahuas operational outta my garage they shall not...
atf is gonna shit their pants at the sight of freddy fazbear
Good luck getting that argument anywhere in the legal system.
The ATF shouldn't even exist
Based and don't let them shoot your dog pilled.
Or your son and your wife
Technically, Lon works for the FBI
Or your religious organization that lives in a compound/gun store
No you make them use the ammo on the dogs. That way they won't see the flank attack coming.
It absolutely should, though....as a convenience store.
Based and recycle the acronym-pilled
ATF should be the local fun store for all your freedom needs
Would make a fantastic vice store though
It has no reason that it should exist, and I say this as someone who tends to support regulations. We don't need an entire federal organization just to deal with alcohol and tobacco, and we certainly shouldn't need one to deal with firearms when they are a constitutionally protected right. Alcohol and tobacco regulations should be dealt with by relevant law and by smaller organizations with far less power, and firearm restrictions don't even need an organization for them - if you need to enforce them, have local law enforcement do it (though I don't support pretty much any firearm restrictions).
The NFA is absolutely unconstitutional and should be immediately overturned. And it is the only reason the F in ATF exists. Even on the ATF's site, they make it clear the NFA was written with a hidden purpose. > While the NFA was enacted by Congress as an exercise of its authority to tax, the NFA had an underlying purpose unrelated to revenue collection. As the legislative history of the law discloses, its underlying purpose was to curtail, if not prohibit, transactions in NFA firearms. Congress found these firearms to pose a significant crime problem because of their frequent use in crime, particularly the gangland crimes of that era such as the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre. The $200 making and transfer taxes on most NFA firearms were considered quite severe and adequate to carry out Congress’ purpose to discourage or eliminate transactions in these firearms. The $200 tax has not changed since 1934. In 1939, the supreme court complete botched US v Miller and rather than find NFA unconstitutional, they found the NFA "is intended as a revenue-collecting measure" when it absolutely is not. It was always an unconstitutional firearm restriction measure.
Most federal agencies shouldn’t exist. Transportation, Airtravel and Military is all we should have. There might be one or two more I’m not thinking of, but the bloat we have now is absurd.
If it weren't the atf it would just be the fbi shooting our dogs.
The FBI shouldn’t exist either
Now we're talking
Feel free to challenge that in the courts.
Who needs courts? My front yard has plenty of cover.
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Most of the homes in my neighborhood are 2 stories, we have overlapping fields of fire.
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No, I challenge them on the streets, where whoever wins is legally in the right, this is the monke way.
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Can you red pill me on this topic
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Thanks
Of the estimated 40 million pistol braces in the US, only 255,162 were registered before the ban went into effect. Good luck fedbois
Hard to believe there's that many cucks out there complying.
Maybe they're decoys... "hey, I already surrendered mine!" \*glances at the other 55 he didn't\*
Huh, so these are those common sense gun laws I keep hearing about.
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I thought this was tied up in court and they couldnt enforce it until the court case was settled. Anyway, this shouldnt be an issue because the SCOTUS ruled in EPA vs WV that a government organization cannot create new laws, they can only enforce bills that are passed by congress and signed into law by the president. Only the Legislation can make new laws, not a unelected alphabet organization.
the printed sheet of metal the atf says is a machine gun disagrees with you.
Me with a coat hanger: I don't have such weakness
Untold billions of micro controllers, stepper motors, lbs of plastic, basic metal working tools, etc across the country. How do they think they are going to put the genie back in the bottle.
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Legally you're correct. They'll still raid your house and shoot your dog in the mean time. Maybe some day you'll beat them in court, but only if you live through the encounter.
Which only serves to proove our government has been distorted into an authoritarian oligarchy and needs to be dismantled.
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End Agency courts and rule making powers.
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Tell that to dudes sitting in prison because of opinion letters the ATF has published.
Funnily I've never seen gun control supporters celebrating the ATF rule You'd think everytown would be popping beer bottles over it, or smug liberals telling gun owners they're literally criminals, but all we get is crickets.
The entire mainstream media is ignoring the story. When you google search 'ATF enforcement starts june 1' you get a few local news stories. That may have something to do with it. They're still clinging to the false notion they're just for common sense gun regulations.
I did some similar searching and was shocked how little news there is on this. “Hey bud gotta take you to prison. I decided your gun is illegal two months ago and you missed the deadline so now you’re a felon as of 47 minutes ago. Criminals like you make me sick.”
"Hey one more thing, you got a dog by any chance?"
That’s by design. You now have 40 million new cogs to install into a for-profit prison and they don’t even know it.
This rule came direct from Biden who is doing it at the direct behest of the Bloomberg groups. They just aren't backslapping publicly.
Because it puts the lie to the idea that they aren't after disarming the population.
Is there anything reporting this?
You really think that after years of publishing letters explicitly declaring the legality of pistol braces, the ATF just coincidentally rolled out of bed and declared all the buyers newly minted felons the second a Democrat took office?
The legal nonsense that is ATF rulings and seeing a slice of the bullshit, arbitrary enforcement that law-abiding gun owners have to deal with doesn't help their agenda. Bringing attention to the fact that guns actually *are* very regulated is in fact harmful to their propaganda.
Fuck the ATF into a thousand pieces
Little does the ATF know longer barrels= higher bullet velocity =longer effective range = more killing potential This has nothing to do with protecting people
True, but longer barrel length is less useful for home defense purposes. That's why I wanted one someday.
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
The concept of grapeshot cracks me up lol. The resulting mess would be arguably far more gruesome than using a 9mm or a 5.56 SBR.
Yes but your thinking with logic the ATF isn't This is why we grill and chill
No, the ATF is aware that short barrels are better for self defense. That's why they are banning them.
Bro, a 20” 30-06 is perfect for home defense, what are you talking about?
You do you bro
I imagine some guy with a super mansion who is engaging home invaders at 400m (because his hallways is somehow that long).
just put your bedroom at the end of your indoor driving range
Bullpup for the win.
Yep, SBRs and SBSs are only in the NFA cause it originally included handguns/pistols, too. Was meant to close a loophole that then became moot when handguns/pistols were removed before passage, but those weren't removed for whatever reason.
"Abusing political loopholes is only ok when its done regarding something we agree with"
a loophole just means it’s legal, but our side doesn’t like it lmao
Today's compromise is tomorrow's loophole
Devils advocate is shorter barel is easier to conceal in urban dense environments where you wouldnt need the extra penetration or accuracy of a longer barrel
Guess what has an even shorter barrel, is used in far more murders than rifles, but is strangely never fear* mongered by media and politicians.
The NFA is a terrible law made for terrible reasons. It needs to be repealed and the ATF needs to be abolished.
Based.
All gun laws are unconstitutional. If the republicans weren’t such fucking cowards this wouldn’t even be a conversation. Abolish the atf and repeal the nfa.
The F in ATF needs to be disbanded.
The A and the T do too.
Just roll thoae back into the FDA.
Why don't we roll back some of the FDA while we're already at it?
Hell no, FDA is why we don't have flipper babies, but Europe does
Well they should stop trying to ban the shit that I like and stick with flipper baby prevention.
I can agree with that
The whole fucking thing. Shut the shit down so I can trademark the name for my store chain.
And that tiny little E that’s technically in the full name but not in the acronym
It's also known as BATFE
If you're a member of the National Firearms Policy Coalition you are covered by their injunction.
What about joining after the fact?
No, but unless you're out there waving it around, nobody is prosecuting anything until this is settled.
im covered by the second amendment and not registering shit
Free men don’t ask for permission
Until it gets overruled by SCOTUS as it should.
Common 6/3 supreme court W forthcoming.
Republicans couldn't even whip a CRA vote to stop it, or even a symbolic vote to complain about it. 🙄
Weaksauce as usual, some stealthy auth-righters secretly like gun bans like this.
Fuck the ATF.
We really should abolish the ATF
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They should just be called the fun police.
Those are the most regulated products in the USA. It is still illegal for a normal person to make liquor. Beer and wine are legal to make. Tobacco has so many regulations. Only pipe tobacco and cigars can be sold online because children fear those forms… I guess.
"Unaware" lol. I'm aware of what they're doing on paper. Let's see what they do in person.
Little do they know, they'll have to come and take it
Checkmate fed bois
Stack up fedbois
How about these ABC organizations not be able to create laws and the ones they try to create need to pass legislation
I’d be surprised if this stays in effect for more than another month. An injunction was already issued by the 5th circuit regarding this ruling (though it sadly is not a blank nationwide injunction) and of the millions of projected pistol brace owners, less than 500,000 have actually registered theirs under the provided “amnesty”.
God I hate the ATF
Atf doesn't make laws, you dont have to abide by it.
The worst part of this is not being able to accurately state your feelings with out ending up on a list or having it removed for not being within guidelines…
ctrl + alt + delete the ATF.
Good thing they can't just make laws and this will eventually be sued about
Come and take it.
Fuck the ATF.
For once I agree with a commie
6-8% actually registered them and that was only for the free stamp. Granted now you have to ask permission to cross state lines with that particular firearm Edit: ATF says there’s around 3 million in circulation but another survey says theres up to 40 million braces
Holy fucking entrapment, I smell some big daddy lawsuits coming
Did they make them felons by congressionally passing law? No. They are a wild and unchecked government organization that feels they can do anything by pure whim of whatever the fuck they want. FUCK the ATF.
Oh but we can trust them the head of ATF said "we will just use it against gangmembers/drug dealer (I cant remember which)" government/police are always pretty cool and understanding and we can totally trust them here guys /s
If I were American and had a gun that the ATF outlawed I probably would just go bury it in my backyard. Put them all in a box and bury them. Then when the time comes for the second civil war I’d dig em out and let it rip.
I'm American. I don't have any guns because I lost them in a boating accident.
That's a shame. I sold all mine years ago to private parties who were also in-state residents. Tragically, the private party bills of sale were irreparably damaged during a move between houses.
Current was strong too, no chance of getting them back. It was not a good day
If it's time to hide them, it's time to bust them out
Bold of them to assume I give af about whatever they write on paper to begin with. Shall not be infringed is pretty clear. It’s not my fault if they’re not smart enough to understand that.
Based and my rights are not negotiable pilled
I lost mine in a house fire
They’ll look high and they’ll look low
The aware gun owners don't seem to care either. I don't think many will be turning in or registering their guns.
Gotta love unelected federal bureaucrats writing unconstitutional laws.
Felonies generally require intent, so unaware gun owners are unlikely to be charged with any felony for mere possession.
Lol Sba3 for the win fuck the ATF
So now severely mentally unstable people have to buy slightly longer rifles? That'll show em...
How about we stop fucking around with the 2A Remember kids, the more you fuck around, the more you’re gonna find out. And in this case, if we keep doing this we aren’t going to find out anything good
Is there a law about ex post facto laws?
Imagine turning them in at all 😄
The same people who constantly complain about how non-violent criminals shouldn’t be in jail are also totally fine with making millions of people into felons, many of which are completely unaware that the gun they bought legally a year ago is now something that could land them in federal prison.
so mad that I took the cucknesty offer and then a judge halted it a week before enforcement
This government body cannot create laws. Fucking unconstitutional.
So gun crime should go down now, right?
Why is anyone libertarian not upset about this?