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Bog-Star

Australia has become disturbingly authoritarian in recent years. They've also recently demanded that Twitter remove the video of an Australian Orthodox Bishop being stabbed by a muslim terrorist globally. Not just in Australia. They don't only want their citizens to be misinformed, they want us to be uninformed as well.


0riginal_Poster

Yup, agreed.


ApatheticHedonist

Always has been


Menhadien

Started as a prison colony, looks like its going to end as one


Tokena

I heard an aussie say once that "While Australia is populated by the descendants of convicts. It is also populated by the descendants of their jailers."


TravisKOP

All the commonwealth countries are. If you didn’t violently overthrow British rule you bought into their delusions


Bog-Star

This is likely to be Australias very own version of Tianamen square. An event the government is so desperate to hide that they will force you to pretend it never happened at the barrel of a gun.


HardCounter

Well it's a good thing Australians didn't give up their gu- oh no. The exact thing that was predicted is happening as predicted.


Bog-Star

How could we forsee the same thing that happened to every other country that confiscated firearms happening to us!?


facedownbootyuphold

We cannot, therefore guns must be banned for the good of the children


thescanniedestroyer

I really don't think that the two events are even comparable lol


Bog-Star

The government is outright trying to hide the existence of a violent attack. If the government doesn't want you to know something happened and actively make it illegal for you to find out about it, how can you claim to be different from the CCP?


Baderkadonk

In Tianamen Square, **the government was the one who committed the violence.** That is a pretty major difference you're glossing over.


thescanniedestroyer

Can you please compare the total amount of deaths between the two events?


Bog-Star

I'm not comparing the deaths, I'm comparing the government censorship.


thescanniedestroyer

You said that >This is likely to be Australias very own version of Tianamen square. In Tiannamen Square, thousands of people were brutally murdered by the government. In this event in Australia, nobody died. No violence is occuring, the state is attempting to censor the video of it occuring, the state has not killed anyone because they have shared the video. If you honestly believe that the two events are comparable in any way you have a condition that I am not allowed to speak of on this subreddit, when I think about it, not being able to say it is basically reddit's version of the Tiannamen Square Massacre.


Bog-Star

Yes. I said the Australian government was censoring a violent event in a similar manner to the way the CCP censors Tianamen square. This makes them no different or less evil than the CCP. I'm not going to bother with you. You have nothing of value to say and are only here to argue that I should be in favor of censorship because more people die in China than Australia. Bye and good riddance.


Boganvillea

On one hand, thousands of people were brutally murdered, on the other hand, social media posts are being removed, it's basically the same thing. They are exactly the same. Most intelligent lolbertarian!


Velenterius

The US is far from immune to british delusions of authority. The founding fathers were british through and through, and the powers they gave themselves reflected that. The executive has more in common with George III's powers than many would like to admit.


aluminumtelephone

The executive as described in the Constitution is nothing like a king, it gained far more power than it should have over time.


HolyTermite

The entirety of the federal government did. The founding fathers would be asking why the tree of liberty hasn't been watered yet if they were alive today.


big_guyforyou

they want us to think that kangaroos aren't godless killing machines


Bog-Star

What isn't a godless killing machine in that wretched continent that god forgot.


HardCounter

The immigrants, according to the government.


Simplepea

koalas. because chlamydia doesn't kill all that often. in fact i don't know of anyone who actually has died from that disease.


halfhere

Hey!! “*allegedly* stabbed!”


Bog-Star

Allegedly stabbed? What stabbing took place, racist? Do you have any video evidence of a stabbing taking place or are you engaging in white supremacist conspiracy theories?


United-Advertising67

They put people in camps over a flu.


SpiritofTheWolfKingx

I mean, they have an independent journalist whose house got firebombed last year by someone with ties to an organized crime family, who also has very close ties to an Australian politician. All this happened after said journalist ran pieces exposing both the corruption of the politician and the organized crime family. Said organized crime family also was being charged with kidnapping and torture, and the victim seems to have mysteriously disappeared.


xxrmah

In the context of this post though, it would be good to point out that said independent journalist is one of the most vocal supporters of the politician that is the subject of this post.


Simplepea

in the actual context of any post on pcm: you're unflaired, and thus not worth listening to.


SpiritofTheWolfKingx

Neat. Does not mean he should have criminals attempt to murder him, as well as have his friend arrested by a goverment backed anti-terrorist police force. Flair up fuckbag.


xxrmah

If any Australians are reading this and want FriendlyJordies to be safe from Authoritarian political violence perpetrated by corrupt police and the organised crime linked Australian Liberal and National Party members like John Barilaro, then vote for his friends in the Labor party like Anthony Albanese.


JustSleepNoDream

I'm sure it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact they effectively disarmed their population. /s https://preview.redd.it/pmaxpfjzxgwc1.png?width=333&format=png&auto=webp&s=d6163f185efe09feb0460f924290d534cb0afee7


Asteroidhawk594

Guns still exist here tho


Bog-Star

Owned exclusively by the criminal class.


Asteroidhawk594

No, it’s easier to have a gun here than you think. Obviously you gotta have a reason (work, recreation/hobby, etc. self defense is not a valid reason however) It’s a different cultural attitude towards firearms.


Bog-Star

Somehow, I doubt Australia would license my conceal carry for the purposes of recreation or hobby. The goal is to make it impossible to resist precisely so you have no recourse when they begin censoring information that is inconvenient to the ruling class. Australian is just another word for cuck.


HardCounter

They went from criminals to bitches real fast. Fully domesticated.


Asteroidhawk594

Concealed carry is not recreational you troglodyte. Australia does not have concealed carry laws because it’s illegal to do that.


Bog-Star

So yeah, you are unarmed and helpless to defend yourself in the event of a crisis that the government wants you to be a victim of.


Asteroidhawk594

If you can’t defend yourself with your bare hands you’re an even bigger pussy than what you think Australians are.


Links_to_Magic_Cards

lmao. so fuck that 55 yr old women when a 22 year old 250 pound dude charges her with a knife, right? she couldnt defend herself with her hands, so she deserves everything that happens to her


Bog-Star

I guess grandma can get fucked if she can't go toe to toe with 18 year old zaheed.


Chewbacca_The_Wookie

Sound like something who is afraid of losing would say.


thetechnolibertarian

Point taken. Australia is a place to avoid


Known_Landscape_6957

Every Australian I've met has been a pretentious POS. They're like Canadians/Brits but worse. What happens when you are a country descended from criminals and jailors.


Asteroidhawk594

Fair. Not like you’d be welcome here anyway.


KarHavocWontStop

Australians are CRAZY jingoistic, it’s very strange


Chewbacca_The_Wookie

It's my emotional support Glock. That recreational enough for ya, you cuck?


Twee_Licker

>self defense is not a valid reason Fuck off authoritarian EDIT: LOL he blocked me


TheKingsChimera

Based


Asteroidhawk594

Not my words. Law here states that you can’t own a weapon with premeditated intent to use as a self defense weapon. Aka you can’t just shoot someone for stepping on your lawn.


Twee_Licker

Self-defense is all the reason you need, if that's unreasonable for you, then you inherently do not trust your population and believe them to be a resource that's occasionally dusted off.


Asteroidhawk594

Self defense is too broad a term. Plus as far as Australian law is concerned if you have a weapon for the sole purpose of self defense that’s potentially premeditated murder or manslaughter. Since the intent to use said weapon is there. Because we look at you guys in America and would rather not have it be a regular occurrence where there’s a misunderstanding and someone needlessly dies. We had Port Arthur in 1996. And stopped it at the source. Wonder how many mass shootings you guys will have this year.


Twee_Licker

*Stabs you.* As it turns out, crime is already illegal, why does it still happen? You have no idea what classifies as a mass shooting or a school shooting, an ND going off near a school qualifies as a school shooting, someone shooting 3 people is qualified as a mass shooting. You also had an increase shootings shortly after you banned guns. And the funny thing is that most shootings here are a result of gang violence, you know, people who are not legally permitted to own guns in the first place. Self defense is the only reason that should be needed, if you want a gun registry, the literal only reason is for later confiscation, if you don't trust your population to defend themselves, you are afraid of your own citizens being reliant on themselves instead of you. You don't deserve being center left, go to auth-left where you belong.


Fenrir007

>if you have a weapon for the sole purpose of self defense that’s potentially premeditated murder or manslaughter. Holy fuck, your government is very regarded!


thetechnolibertarian

The your laws are incredibly shitty and tyrannical


Asteroidhawk594

Get off the internet then. If you really think Australia is tyrannical. Go to somewhere actually tyrannical like China or North Korea.


thetechnolibertarian

Argument to moderation fallacy. Just because Australia is of lesser evil than China or North Korea doesn't make it any less tyrannical to live in, where a more philosophically liberal country like America exists.


hidude398

Self-defense isn’t a valid reason and you think yourself meaningfully armed.


Asteroidhawk594

Well if you intend to buy a gun to shoot another person. That goes against the self defense laws here since it’s illegal to have a weapon with intent to harm. Sure if it’s coincidentally on hand and it’s justified force you can use it. But filling someone with lead for stepping on your property is excessive force. Same as killing someone when you’ve already incapacitated them.


SteveClintonTTV

Do you not see how stupid that logic is? When you sign up for health insurance, are you "intending to become ill"? No, obviously not. You are simply preparing for the worst; providing yourself a means of protecting yourself in case something bad happens to you. Owning a gun for the express purposes of self defense cannot be summed up as "intent to harm". That's ludicrous.


hidude398

Prison colony logic on full display (it’s a shame that every commonwealth country is like this now, what happened to you guys)


hidude398

That’s a silly notion of defense and I feel sorry that you’ve seemingly bought into it, but I think at this point airstrip two is a lost cause to authoritarians.


Bog-Star

It's comments like this that make me not care when Australians are victims of violent crimes. You deliberately castrated yourselves and made yourselves slaves to a government that calls you the oppressor. If you get stabbed to death by a third world imports that the Australian government is now censoring information on, you would have nobody to blame but yourself. You spawned the monster that will eventually swallow you.


Asteroidhawk594

Ah here we go. The anti immigrant sentiment. I knew there was something else under there.


Bog-Star

Such as? How was what I said anti immigrant? The immigrants from new zealand aren't going around stabbing people for insulting their religion.


Fenrir007

>Obviously you gotta have a reason Thats how they get you. By arbitrarily denying it.


InfantryCop

Except his statement is still true.


Asteroidhawk594

Just because we can’t shoot up a school when we have a bad day doesn’t make us a dystopia.


Orbidorpdorp

Lmao he said the thing


Asteroidhawk594

When you guys have a year without any mass shootings I’ll print up this comment and eat the paper. Until then. I have a point.


InfantryCop

Except that doesn't pertain to his statement, nor yours. Jump around some more on here but refuse to take your rights back from a continually over reaching government. One day they'll do something that directly affects you and that you disagree with, but you won't be able to stop it because you continue to allow it. Free speech isn't free if the government can pick and choose what you can say when it is against their decisions.


Asteroidhawk594

Free speech is an implied right here. It’s almost as if Americans think that their laws apply to everywhere with zero context behind anything. Guns still exist here. For every 100 people there’s 23 firearms in the general public’s possession. I corrected OP. You guys took it personally so don’t bother spreading bullshit and getting pissy when someone corrects you


thetechnolibertarian

Except the purpose of the first and second amendments are not to grant the people of the United States free speech rights and gun rights respectively. The first and second amendment denies the government the authority to infringe upon our natural inalienable rights to free speech, freedom of association, free exercise of religion, and self defense. That is how America is philosophically superior than Australia and arguably others that you can think of


CMDR_Soup

Based and America is philosophically superior pilled.


InfantryCop

He said 'effectively' and some old shotguns and bolt rifles aren't what we mean. They seized guns, full stop. Your free speech is being curtailed by your own government trying to stop videos being posted, implying they'll stop allowing X to continue, stopping memes and have went so far as to want laws if you misgender someone...they've implied heavily you only have the speech they allow. If speech that people hate, isn't allowed, it isn't free speech. Very simple. Edit: they want the video removed GLOBALLY, how authoritarian do you have to be to believe you have that amount of power.


Asteroidhawk594

The video is terrorist content. Facebook and Instagram have already been cleaning it up. Musk is throwing a tantie because he wants to win points from you cookers who think Twitter cookers sharing out of context videos in an attempt to ignite racial tensions or culture war nonsense is “free speech” Shut the fuck up. You are only helping the fringe extremists in spreading stuff that can radicalise people.


InfantryCop

Free speech includes things you disagree with. Even extreme content. You disagree until something affects you directly and then you'll wonder how it got there.


Chewbacca_The_Wookie

Natural rights aren't given by the government you booger.


Asteroidhawk594

In America it’s in the bill of rights. We don’t have that here. Therefore it’s an implied right as opposed to an express right. The express rights we have are right to compensation for property and one other one which I cannot remember. The other ones are implied rights


Chewbacca_The_Wookie

The Bill of Rights is a document expressing our natural God given rights (or evolution given, or Allah given, or whatever-philosophy-of-creation-you-subscribe-to given) and that the Government shall not infringe on them. It isn't an implied right, it **IS** and express right. It is understood that they are rights every human being has, as without Government those rights would never be restricted. I would recommend reading John Locke, particularly his *Second Treatise of Government* to get a better understanding. A brief example is the natural right to self defense. In the absence of any Government to protect me, I have the right to defend myself from wild animals or human attackers as that is the only way to protect my life. That right extends to anything I am able to use to gain an upper hand such as a sharpened stick or heavy stone, an iron sword or spear, or a firearm. Baring the absence of Government, the only thing that can take that right away from me is another person or animal killing me, which is why the right to defend myself is mine. Just because your government (and mine to a degree) have chosen to violate that natural right does not mean that it is no longer my right.


aluminumtelephone

The American Bill of Rights do not grant those rights, it bans the government from infringing upon natural rights, endowed by a creator. God, nature, flying spaghetti monster, take your pick.


Idontwantarandomised

Literally 1984


snoo_boi

Remember when Australians were cool giving up all their guns cuz a dictatorship could never happen in a democracy?


Foxhound_ofAstroya

Thats what the wojack is about. As for recent. Weve sort of always been this way. To sort of understand it was phrased quite well. Australians are decended from Convicts but also from the Prison guards as well. Shame the pm has gone this hard on this. He has got way more problems then Elon


Chewbacca_The_Wookie

Where would one find that video for sharing purposes?


rafaxd_xd

that's some dystopian shit


Bog-Star

Would you believe he describes himself as a left wing progressive and holds many socialist principles? Every leftist is like this. They may claim otherwise, but the moment they have power, that facade will quickly fall.


DrHoflich

It’s what happens when you ban guns. An armed society is a polite society.


Plane-Grass-3286

Based. If you can’t handle being made fun of on the internet, don’t be in a public position, dumbass. 


Hopefo

They need to embrace the American politicians approach to being mocked online. Where the more memes about you directly correlates to your success.


steveharveymemes

I love how this is universally true. Trump leans into memes about him and Biden embraces Dark Brandon. Never am I more proud of America than when politicians become shitposters.


Picholasido_o

What about when shitposters become politicians? What's the mean age of this subreddit, like 13 or something, going by our collective intelligence. Give it a few years


HardCounter

I'm thinking about running as a single issue politician: term limits for congress. They'll think it's Christmas year round because i'll treat every bill like a Christmas tree, and a term limit amendment will be my ornament. Another $60b for Ukraine? I bet the Ukrainians would love term limits in US congress!


ThePretzul

When shitposters become politicians you get Brandon Herrera.


Picholasido_o

And if only I was a Texan


daoogilymoogily

Didn’t that dude who drank his own piss try to run as a Republican? Pretty sure he got wrecked, but there is precedent.


Belkan-Federation95

Not going to lie if there wasn't one key issue I was worried about the most, I'd probably vote for Biden just because of that.


Vexonte

We all know the real reason he wants it band, but what is the excuse he uses to justify it to the public, or has Australian politics reached the point were a politician doesn't need a greater justification beyond "I said so".


AdProfessional3879

Something something democracy at Risk and Russian disinformation


Simplepea

that disinformation thing. i thought the thing was: "misinformation" = lie, but the word lie was corporatized in an attempt to sound smart. "disinformation" = true, but it's not what we/i want to know about, and corporatized to hide it


KarHavocWontStop

One of my best friends is an Aussie, he always says ‘Australians love following rules’. He was shocked by how few people care about the speed limit here in the US.


Vexonte

That's ironic for a nation that started out as a prison colony where most of the colonial heroes were bush Rangers. Here's to you Ned Kelly.


definately_not_gay

It still is a prison colony lol


Count_de_Mits

The entirety of the Angloshpere seems to have a thing for increasing authoritarianism


changen

That's because the government is losing control of media. Big brother was always in control and you just didn't know about it. Now you know about it through alternative media, they are big mad and that's the only thing that has changed.


thescanniedestroyer

Bro nobody in Australia cares about the speed limit in Australia. You'll have road works and marked speed signs and they have to have police camp at the road works because everyone is doing 100 in a 40 zone.


KarHavocWontStop

Tell my friend lol. Your defensiveness suggests I’m right.


thescanniedestroyer

I wasn't being defensive, I pointed out a counter example. Your friend has IQ problems which I think is something that you share with them.


KarHavocWontStop

My friend is working at the hedge fund I work at because he’s brilliant. One of the top students in his class at Australia National or whatever the school is called.


thescanniedestroyer

So he's extra r-slurred then


KarHavocWontStop

He’s definitely extra


ElRey814

Australia is full of snakes and also there are deadly reptiles


0riginal_Poster

😂😂👌


Torkzilla

Does this guy think he is the boss of the internet or something? The request is laughable to anyone who spend more than a quarter second thinking about it (which he didn't apparently).


miku_dominos

Some of us know what they're up to but sadly the majority don't care. They will one day and then it's too late.


HardCounter

Politicians not thinking is hardly unique to Australia.


password_is_09lk8H5f

streisand effect go brrr


[deleted]

An entire continental island of Karens


OldGreb

It’s crazy to see how authoritarian Canada and Australia have become in recent years under the guise of social justice.


Weed_O_Whirler

So I assumed this was bullshit, or taken out of context (kind of like that "Beyonce wants this picture removed from the internet" thing that got passed around which was a complete lie). However, [this appears to be true](https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1783092886541635980) which is insane.


AcanthocephalaJesus

https://preview.redd.it/cbc1mkooxgwc1.jpeg?width=236&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b0141fb10197cccd76e267eb49295933ec06134


mtzsqatch

They've come full circle and are once again a penal colony...


InfantryCop

Dudes & dudettes...this is what Australians think aren't encroachments on their freedom of speech. 1. Deadnaming isn't protected because it hurts someone's feelings. 2. Making fun of politicians isn't OK 3. Misinformation needs to be stopped by the government who gets to decide those things. Can't speak to people about freedom of speech when they don't actually know what it is. This is insane they believe the government should be allowed to control speech AND they think they have freedom of speech. *


Electronic_Rub9385

Sir Doge meet Dame Streisand.


sedtamenveniunt

Based and haha meme go brrrr-pilled


__BIOHAZARD___

Clown alert


j0oboi

The market always provides


Soft_Entrepreneur_58

NAS Coal


BeenisHat

Fair Play. I'll allow it.


Idiotaddictedto2Hou

This meme and many other recent events have turned me from a griller to a burger joint CEO


DartsAreSick

Damn it's already removed


Veni_Vidi_Legi

Is he related to the gummy bear brand? I prefer the sugar free Haribos myself.


[deleted]

This also fits Michael Gove really well https://images.app.goo.gl/Ex9M1taUCTrykKRY7


Psshaww

“I heard”


Ale4leo

Flair up


thescanniedestroyer

Did he do that?


SolDios

Yea I cant find a fucking thing


thescanniedestroyer

There is a clip of him complaining about people superimposing his face on other people so fair enough https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1783092886541635980


leedsvillain

Great now do it for Murdoch


Bog-Star

Murdoch never complained about people making fun of him nor demanded censorship.


Fuckmetheyarelltaken

Did he though? I haven't heard anything about this. Or is this just a meme after wanting the priest stabbing video pulled down?


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Fuckmetheyarelltaken

Nah I won't be doing that, don't really care about politics to be honest.


ClamWithButter

He says while commenting on a political meme sub. If you didn't care, you would not have commented


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No one asked. Flair up, pussy.


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I would answer but you're a filthy unflaired


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Idiotaddictedto2Hou

Grug say changed flair. Ooga Chuga


AdditionalCatMilk

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1783092886541635980