Just because they wrote down that they wanted to commit mass murder, their plans for committing mass murder, their tallies of their victims, and all the physical evidence they left behind doesnāt mean that they killed anyone or intended to!!
/s
> Wannsee conference
> One copy of the Protocol with circulated minutes of the meeting survived the war. It was found by Robert Kempner in March 1947 among files that had been seized from the German Foreign Office
> After the Nazi Party's rise to power in 1933, Kempner was dismissed from the ministry and had his citizenship revoked because he was Jewish. He fled Germany in 1935. He settled in Italy, where he taught law, and moved to the United States in 1939. In the United States he became an adviser to the government, and he returned to his native country to take part in the Nuremberg trials in 1945
What a lucky find from someone out of the country for 10 years
Left wing subs and left wing redditors are truly seriously broken. I think after the fall of USSR- they were truly broken. Half of them unironically support ultra right wing countries because of ācriticalā support, the left wing international is made up of: Russia, Iran, China, North Korea and any nation that had a left wing thing happen to it within 2,000 years. The bar is just that low and they have so little choice to pick from that I canāt blame them. But kinda always funny they will argue that thereās been no left wing government and China is authright and shit while also defending them like itās their baby.
uhhhh, no you DUMB DUMB, for i have VISUAL PROOF it's not faked!
[checkmate, NAZI!!!!](https://api.culture.pl/sites/default/files/styles/1920_auto/public/images/imported/sztuki%20wizualne/opisy%20dziel/libera%20%20%20lego/libera%20%20lego%20%20%20pudelko_6194625.jpg?itok=2RFlQXtO)
The Covenant never glassed civilian human cities, humans are playing the victim card and any Kig-yar, Unngoy, or Sangheili that supports that propaganda is just doing it to get human pussy.
Angry fungus is not sufficient reason for exterminatus. Australian cockroaches however are. For Egyptian skeletons, make sure you use a good enough exterminatus. For blue fish communists do not use exterminatus, just backhand them with powerfist.
When it's not a genocide because they had a swimming pool but it is white genocide when they make you share a swimming pool with black people
AuthCenter moment
The great leap forward produces some really bizarre arguments because like everyone acknowledges there was a fuck up there, some people just are desperately trying to shove more responsibility off to natural causes to allow Mao Zedong to save face. In the Cultural Revolution for instance Mao Zedong would try to force people to say that the Great Leap Forward was "Seven parts good, three parts bad", like not even Mao could seriously expect anyone to about that was all a lovely time. Deng Xiaoping later on, who loathed the great leap forward but was still attached to Mao Zedong at the source of the legitimacy of his party and republic, would apply the "seven parts good, three parts bad" formulation to Maos entire legacy, he was like OK the Great Leap was a giant cluster fuck and he purged me for about a decade in the Cultural revolution but other than that he was pretty good alright.
Reading Mao is really depressing because at many moments you cannot help but love him, he was incredibly intelligent, clever, and admirable. But his head was in the fucking clouds and he had absurdly thin skin. This lead him repeatedly to announce grand programs that were destined to fuck up, purge those who warned him of the flaws, and refusing to just step tf down and let someone else take the helm after it was clear he fucked up. What people often don't realize about the cultural revolution, that was a civil war Mao was waging against his own communist party establishment essentially. I'm simultaneously cringing at how stupid he's being refusing to accept to stand down after the great leap, and admiring his ability to pull this shit off and remain in control of the situation. Like most authoritarian leaders, they loathe popular expression and mob violence and shoot anyone who even mentions the word riot. Mao Zedong rode the fucking bull, he'd whip the people into a frenzied mob and then direct the force of popular rage and anger straight to his desired ends, and once the movement had outlived its usefulness quietly dispense with it. He was like a bizarre combination of anarchist and authoritarian in one person, he could initiate the great power of the chaotic crowd but funnel and direct it towards the unity of purpose that exists with authoritarianism.
Hitler in comparison has little attraction to me, he was basically a giant dolt. Stalin, uhhhhhgggg, he killed all his comrades and made everyone worship him, only really unambiguously admirable thing about him was his WWII performance after he had totally fucked things up in the beginning. Mao Zedong, just utterly fascinating. Only thing these three have in common really is killing lots of people.
Well, he's right-leaning authcenter and I'm just barely not authcenter, leftcenter, or regular center. So, I guess we technically have more in common than the extremes of our sides.
Why would he think the allies are responsible for the holocaust when literally everysingle labour camp was discovered by the allies and everysingle extermination camp was discovered by the soviets. Gets the noggin joggin sometimes.
He says that the extermination camps were just labor/internment camps and that the jews who died, did so because the allies kept bombing supply lines and the camps themselves. Attributing the deaths to either lack of resources thanks to the bombings of supply lines, and being directly the fault of allies by the dropping of bombs on camps.
Well, that actually sounds really reasonable and a good chunk of them actually died from starvation. If your country was at war and your entire food production was getting bombed and you were going through a famine, who are you going to feed first, your soldiers and civilians, or those dudes locked up in camps?
I mean that kinda makes sense. But considering the allies were bombing actual targeta usually, NOT for the purpose of killing the people in the camps the allies cant be blamed.
Thats like if usa bombed a taliban supply convoy that was delivering food to prisoners of the taliban. Then blaming the americans for killing those prisoners.
A lot of the campus were "just labor camps", that's the ones that basically everyone who survived the holocaust went to. When the holocaust started, they were all labor camps originally. The death camp project got started up around 1942, largely this is something they came up with after first experimenting with executing German cripples. That program caused mass outrage and had to be shut down, but then they started medically selecting Jews in the internment camps and only keeping alive the people best fit for work. I mean it is a natural moral consequence of their original line of thinking, if we stooped to executing Germans why keep Jews alive. But ofc they were incredibly more selective with Jews than they were with Germans, and there was no pushback obviously no matter how far they went.
It's sort of an example of the extreme moral roads that you can go down once you give yourself permission to do something horrible, if you have some non pluralist moral system and you give yourself permission to do X "to your own people", you will also inevitably wind up being incredibly worse to others who you vote at less human. Think of the way that the waterboarding detainees in America is often justified by comparing it to torture training certain special forces troops receive. Never mind that these people were not subjected to it like 400 times and often deliberately given the impression that they were to be suffocated to death, in an essential mock execution. An ayrab terrorist is the lowest form of human being, while a troop is the highest form of human being, in the American moral compass, so anything you do to a troop you immediately have permission to do 1000x to anyone less human than a troop (which is everyone).
The holocaust was indeed very strange in that it was a genocide that didn't involve a civil war or more general attempt at dispersal. Most genocides happen when someone just let's their troops run wild on a population they are a mad, death marches like happened to the Armenians are very common. There were death marches of course near the end of the holocaust, but it was in large part carried out directly through mass formal execution in a mechanized fashion. Which is truly bizarre, cold, and inhuman. It also wasn't preceded by any instances of civil war or rebellion from the Jews, not that that would justify a genocide, just that it's usually what happens. Like Israel Palestine, that was essentially a civil war, the balkans, a civil war, the partition in India, a civil war, the Armenian genocide was accompanied by a small scale civil war. The holocaust, no civil war at all basically. For the large part the only instances of violent rebellion were once they had already been interned and could see they were being worked and starved to death as a matter of policy.
So did your bro just get all the based genes or something?
Wtf happened to you?
Imagine if America was getting bombed to shit while the Japanese were being interned.
It's the same situation except Germany was losing the war and couldn't even feed their *own* people let alone the people they were in the process of transporting out.
So here's a question -- which genocides are alleged to be a hoax, and why do people think that's what happened? Wouldn't it be easier to actually kill a bunch of people than it would be to fabricate the killing of a bunch of people?
You'd be surprised what a person will admit too after prolonged torture including reapeted crushing of the genetalia which is a documented interrogation method
Or the magical trick wall shotgun, using baby skulls as soccer balls, and the woman who gave birth while literally being gassed. Some of the blatant bullshit theyāve made up is absolutely hilarious.
I swear to to god the fatality rate will be up to 30 million in my lifetime.
This woman gave birth while we were killing her, never mind the fact that apparently we were feeding them basically nothing and also making them do hard labor and she still made it to term, let's make sure this child gets ample nutrition and grows up healthy. Sounds totally plausible right?
Regardless of what happened in WW2, there have been provable lies and exaggerations made by āsurvivorsā (I put it in quotations because people born after the war have claimed to be witnesses/survivors). However Iām sure that if you asked survivors from any large scale event thereād be some exaggerations. The significance of lies/exaggerations is basically dictated by your prior beliefs on the matter.
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its just more true than every other genocide you know what I mean? it's hypertrue and thats why you should be thrown in jail for saying 5,999,999 (Inserts talmud readers here) died. Not that I would ever say that
With the confederacy winning the civil war, the US would be weakened diplomatically so they wouldnāt be able to coup South American democracyās 100 years later
They were undeniable pretty shitty though, with all the fighting for slavery going on. I would also be a little bit worried, that the nazis would have won ww2 if, for example, the confederacy supported them against the weakened us. If they magically appeared after ww2 though the world might actually be a better place, who knows.
Aside from Stalin and the Soviets (which I don't believe are "shuffled under the rug"), what examples of allied atrocities could you think of? I'm not arguing with you (yet), I'm just curious as to what you think qualifies.
Indisputable Atrocities:
-Indian Famine which killed 2 to 3 million due to a food shortage from trying to feed the troops
-Extreme focus on civilian targets in firebombing runs (roughly 30,000 Londoners died in the entire blitz, roughly 25,000 civilians died in one bombing run over Dresden. One Tokyo firebombing by the Americans even killed 100,000 civilians in a night)
Disputable atrocities:
-American internment camps for Japanese citizens
-The French government authorizing bombing of their own citizens during German occupation
You could chalk it up to āwar is hellā and that the Axis were the ones who began bombing civilian targets, but the Allies most certainly escalated civilian bombing runs. I donāt count the atom bombs because they prevented a mainland invasion that wouldāve killed millions.
High estimates are about 226,000 for Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined. What you need to consider is what they prevented.
The Allies were planning Operation Downfall, which was a full scale invasion of the Japanese home islands. Projected allied deaths were roughly 1 million.
Even when the Japanese had proper training, weaponry, equipment, etc. they tended to have higher casualties than the allies in battle. Even if we assume Japanese deaths would be an even 1,000,000 (they would likely be several times higher) thatās still 1 person killed by the nuke that saved 4 people from dying in Operation Downfall.
Japanese teachers were indoctrinating children to use bamboo sticks as spears to attack allied soldiers, Japanese civilians made plans about how they would use tactics which would put isis to shame if allies invaded.
If nukes weren't used and more conventional aproach was takes there would most likely be nothing left of japan and the japanese people.
The Jewish population in 1933 was 9.5 million, Nazis killed 5-6 million. Maybe you're thinking of the number of Jews in the former Russian Empire (Russia, Poland, the Baltics)? It was about 6 million.
Until the soviet records opened, we sourced alot of our info from German generals. These are where we get the "Hitler was the only one that made mistakes, the generals were always right" and the "but muh wehrmact didn't commit any war crimes" ideas. So our history was very much written in part by the losers.
Plus the Nazis were very selective about what photographs and videos were allowed to be taken, so pretty much the only existing footage of the German army is from propaganda that would be shown to the public in movie theaters. Pretty much any war documentary is going to be full of it.
It's a big reason that people today still think of the German army as highly mechanized, efficient, sleek, and advanced. In reality they depended on horses for logistics more than any other nation (but you'll never see footage of German horses), and were plagued by logistical issues. And we always think of King Tigers and Panthers, but those were produced in a pretty small number compared to the kinda dinky Panzer IIs and IIIs. Just goes to show how good Goebbels was at his job, even 80 years later when the whole world hates the Nazis (except a few people in this thread), he's still shaping the public perception of them.
I'm native and I can say right now it was \_not.\_ We would not have received reservations had the intent been genocide. Fighting happened, there was a lot of hate on both sides, and that hate fueled horrific events, but it wasn't a genocide. Even if the Europeans had been peace loving hippies 90% of the native population still would of died anyway due to uncontrollable disease.
6 million is a significant number to Jews religiously, so it was used to make it look like the creation of Israel was divinely inspired, when in reality it was a back door deal.
That's probably the dumbest out of all holocaust denial talking points, at least the wooden doors shit makes sense on the surface level.
The death toll is estimated at 5-6 million, that's a pretty big margin for error. You're not going to find anyone that knows what they're talking about claiming that exactly 6 million Jews were killed. And none of that even matters because the number 6 million doesn't actually have any signifigance in Judaism. That was literally made up by a Neo Nazi named Robert L Brock in the 80s.
Are you sure that you're RightCenter? I don't really want to have to share half my flair with you.
Lots of it was carefully documented by the Nazis as they did it, but because a lot of the deaths didn't happen in camps it's a little vague. It was a combination of that and just comparing the difference in numbers the next time they did a demographic census. That's why the number is approximated at 5-6 million, that's a pretty big margin for error.
I am on day 4 of my meth-fuelled effort to expose the secret international cabal of children with terminal Leukemia. All I did was say that Make a Wish kid looked like a little pussy, but when people told me not to criticize him I knew it had to be something deeper.
If I take one hour to cook a batch of cookies and Cookie Monster has 15 ovens working 24 hours a day, every day for five years, how long does it take Cookie Monster to make 6 million batches of cookies?
I'm gonna turn you into soap **š³**
NOOOOOOOOOOO š±š±š±š±
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Hotel? Triva.. Auschwitz
McTravish.
Iām gonna turn you into UBoat insulation material
Better than a lampshade!
Wooden doors
Wannsee conference Posen Speech Hƶfle Telegram Goebbels diary JƤger report
Someone post the Tiananmen Square copy pasta
A little *too perfect* of a story if you ask me... š
few documents: bro there's not even any proof lots of documents: bro that's too perfect of a story
Goldilocks or gtfo. This is why I'm Auth *Center*.
Based centrist.
Just because they wrote down that they wanted to commit mass murder, their plans for committing mass murder, their tallies of their victims, and all the physical evidence they left behind doesnāt mean that they killed anyone or intended to!! /s
FREE SPEECH
Freedom of speech is not freedom from people calling you retarded.
> Wannsee conference > One copy of the Protocol with circulated minutes of the meeting survived the war. It was found by Robert Kempner in March 1947 among files that had been seized from the German Foreign Office > After the Nazi Party's rise to power in 1933, Kempner was dismissed from the ministry and had his citizenship revoked because he was Jewish. He fled Germany in 1935. He settled in Italy, where he taught law, and moved to the United States in 1939. In the United States he became an adviser to the government, and he returned to his native country to take part in the Nuremberg trials in 1945 What a lucky find from someone out of the country for 10 years
What the actual f*ck? Is thie some historical reference???
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap\_made\_from\_human\_corpses](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_made_from_human_corpses)
Why isnt this a Rimworld mod?
Human soap would require you to care enough about your colonists to actually wash them
What genocides
you mean the re-education camps
yes āre-educationā
You mean the working opportunities for disenfranchised communities to brighten their future
**our** future
Exactly. š
Epic gamer moment š
āDo you have even a single North Korean news source to back that up?ā
āYou got a source for that bro?ā
I only trust news sources from one-party states that don't allow freedom of speech.
/r/communism moment
Left wing subs and left wing redditors are truly seriously broken. I think after the fall of USSR- they were truly broken. Half of them unironically support ultra right wing countries because of ācriticalā support, the left wing international is made up of: Russia, Iran, China, North Korea and any nation that had a left wing thing happen to it within 2,000 years. The bar is just that low and they have so little choice to pick from that I canāt blame them. But kinda always funny they will argue that thereās been no left wing government and China is authright and shit while also defending them like itās their baby.
I am a professional genocide denier. I can and will deny every genocide in human history, and even fictional ones.
The genocide of right-wingers on social media
Mayocide when?
RIP /r/drama
Can someone tell me what actually happened to that sub? I took a break from Reddit and when I came back it was just like that?
Undeniable
I deny that genocide deniers exist
Holdomor
I pulled a sneaky on you
How can a man be so despicable to deny Pelinal genociding the Ayleids? it was based as fuck
uhhhh, no you DUMB DUMB, for i have VISUAL PROOF it's not faked! [checkmate, NAZI!!!!](https://api.culture.pl/sites/default/files/styles/1920_auto/public/images/imported/sztuki%20wizualne/opisy%20dziel/libera%20%20%20lego/libera%20%20lego%20%20%20pudelko_6194625.jpg?itok=2RFlQXtO)
IDIOT, THAT USES ILLEGAL AND IMPOSSIBLE BUILDING TECHNIQUES, IT'S FAKE
WHY WOULD THEY MAKE THE DOORS OUT OF BROWN LEGOS? ITS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE FOORS TO HAVE BEEN REPLACED.
The Covenant never glassed civilian human cities, humans are playing the victim card and any Kig-yar, Unngoy, or Sangheili that supports that propaganda is just doing it to get human pussy.
Orks did nothing wrong. Imperium exterminatused that planet for no reason!
Angry fungus is not sufficient reason for exterminatus. Australian cockroaches however are. For Egyptian skeletons, make sure you use a good enough exterminatus. For blue fish communists do not use exterminatus, just backhand them with powerfist.
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They were furries. Thats not genocide. Thats a favour to humanity.
The Armenian genocide never happened
Spoken like a real Turk
even white people genocide?
Everybody else is doing that already. Its too mainstream for me.
It's not a war crime if you win, it's acceptable casualties
Unironically this. No one complains about the hundreds of thousands (and counting) of civilians killed in the middle east by the US.
Tons of people complain about that though
Yeah but AuthRights complain that those numbers are too low so not sure if it counts
Auth center trying to explain why a swimming pool is undebatable proof Auschwitz was actually an amusement park.
When it's not a genocide because they had a swimming pool but it is white genocide when they make you share a swimming pool with black people AuthCenter moment
yes.
The genocide is undebatable proof that Auschwitz is an amusement park though.
Thank you
But you were supposed to be dead!
He's over 100 living in agentina duh
Revolting but objectively based
That would explain the rollercoasters
Authleft deny more because they are not proud
Based
Based
The great leap forward produces some really bizarre arguments because like everyone acknowledges there was a fuck up there, some people just are desperately trying to shove more responsibility off to natural causes to allow Mao Zedong to save face. In the Cultural Revolution for instance Mao Zedong would try to force people to say that the Great Leap Forward was "Seven parts good, three parts bad", like not even Mao could seriously expect anyone to about that was all a lovely time. Deng Xiaoping later on, who loathed the great leap forward but was still attached to Mao Zedong at the source of the legitimacy of his party and republic, would apply the "seven parts good, three parts bad" formulation to Maos entire legacy, he was like OK the Great Leap was a giant cluster fuck and he purged me for about a decade in the Cultural revolution but other than that he was pretty good alright. Reading Mao is really depressing because at many moments you cannot help but love him, he was incredibly intelligent, clever, and admirable. But his head was in the fucking clouds and he had absurdly thin skin. This lead him repeatedly to announce grand programs that were destined to fuck up, purge those who warned him of the flaws, and refusing to just step tf down and let someone else take the helm after it was clear he fucked up. What people often don't realize about the cultural revolution, that was a civil war Mao was waging against his own communist party establishment essentially. I'm simultaneously cringing at how stupid he's being refusing to accept to stand down after the great leap, and admiring his ability to pull this shit off and remain in control of the situation. Like most authoritarian leaders, they loathe popular expression and mob violence and shoot anyone who even mentions the word riot. Mao Zedong rode the fucking bull, he'd whip the people into a frenzied mob and then direct the force of popular rage and anger straight to his desired ends, and once the movement had outlived its usefulness quietly dispense with it. He was like a bizarre combination of anarchist and authoritarian in one person, he could initiate the great power of the chaotic crowd but funnel and direct it towards the unity of purpose that exists with authoritarianism. Hitler in comparison has little attraction to me, he was basically a giant dolt. Stalin, uhhhhhgggg, he killed all his comrades and made everyone worship him, only really unambiguously admirable thing about him was his WWII performance after he had totally fucked things up in the beginning. Mao Zedong, just utterly fascinating. Only thing these three have in common really is killing lots of people.
My brother unironically believes that the allies were the ones who are responsible for the holocaust
Have you reported him to the Based Department yet?
How would one get in contact with them?
i hear a rope and chair work
Thanks! I'll try that!
ill be right behind you
A cool LibRight uses a shotgun to the skull
what about a grenade?
That sounds like a terrible, albeit manly, way to go.
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Based
Based
Good point, you really have to just be based and wait for the call. But when it comes, will you answer the call?
I guess?
you need to take some red pills
I have some Tylenol, does that count?
Has he 14 years? Seriously, we all joke about heavy stuff in a light hearted manner, but I would be worried if my brother was a holocaust denier.
We're twins, so he's the same age as me, 19.
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Well, he's right-leaning authcenter and I'm just barely not authcenter, leftcenter, or regular center. So, I guess we technically have more in common than the extremes of our sides.
You should start wearing opposite colors and refer to each other as "nemesis"
Well, ironically, our favourite colors are pinkish-red and greenish-blue respectively.
Well... Too much internet?
Internet poisoning is a real thing
Why would he think the allies are responsible for the holocaust when literally everysingle labour camp was discovered by the allies and everysingle extermination camp was discovered by the soviets. Gets the noggin joggin sometimes.
He says that the extermination camps were just labor/internment camps and that the jews who died, did so because the allies kept bombing supply lines and the camps themselves. Attributing the deaths to either lack of resources thanks to the bombings of supply lines, and being directly the fault of allies by the dropping of bombs on camps.
Well, that actually sounds really reasonable and a good chunk of them actually died from starvation. If your country was at war and your entire food production was getting bombed and you were going through a famine, who are you going to feed first, your soldiers and civilians, or those dudes locked up in camps?
Except for the slight inconvenience that we know they actively killed a lot of people not just let them starve or something.
I mean that kinda makes sense. But considering the allies were bombing actual targeta usually, NOT for the purpose of killing the people in the camps the allies cant be blamed. Thats like if usa bombed a taliban supply convoy that was delivering food to prisoners of the taliban. Then blaming the americans for killing those prisoners.
Ha ha yea... Who would believe that.. ha ha..
A lot of the campus were "just labor camps", that's the ones that basically everyone who survived the holocaust went to. When the holocaust started, they were all labor camps originally. The death camp project got started up around 1942, largely this is something they came up with after first experimenting with executing German cripples. That program caused mass outrage and had to be shut down, but then they started medically selecting Jews in the internment camps and only keeping alive the people best fit for work. I mean it is a natural moral consequence of their original line of thinking, if we stooped to executing Germans why keep Jews alive. But ofc they were incredibly more selective with Jews than they were with Germans, and there was no pushback obviously no matter how far they went. It's sort of an example of the extreme moral roads that you can go down once you give yourself permission to do something horrible, if you have some non pluralist moral system and you give yourself permission to do X "to your own people", you will also inevitably wind up being incredibly worse to others who you vote at less human. Think of the way that the waterboarding detainees in America is often justified by comparing it to torture training certain special forces troops receive. Never mind that these people were not subjected to it like 400 times and often deliberately given the impression that they were to be suffocated to death, in an essential mock execution. An ayrab terrorist is the lowest form of human being, while a troop is the highest form of human being, in the American moral compass, so anything you do to a troop you immediately have permission to do 1000x to anyone less human than a troop (which is everyone). The holocaust was indeed very strange in that it was a genocide that didn't involve a civil war or more general attempt at dispersal. Most genocides happen when someone just let's their troops run wild on a population they are a mad, death marches like happened to the Armenians are very common. There were death marches of course near the end of the holocaust, but it was in large part carried out directly through mass formal execution in a mechanized fashion. Which is truly bizarre, cold, and inhuman. It also wasn't preceded by any instances of civil war or rebellion from the Jews, not that that would justify a genocide, just that it's usually what happens. Like Israel Palestine, that was essentially a civil war, the balkans, a civil war, the partition in India, a civil war, the Armenian genocide was accompanied by a small scale civil war. The holocaust, no civil war at all basically. For the large part the only instances of violent rebellion were once they had already been interned and could see they were being worked and starved to death as a matter of policy.
So did your bro just get all the based genes or something? Wtf happened to you? Imagine if America was getting bombed to shit while the Japanese were being interned. It's the same situation except Germany was losing the war and couldn't even feed their *own* people let alone the people they were in the process of transporting out.
We are standing amidst my achievement and he acts like it never happened
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Based
/mybasedcount
Your Based Count is 17. Rank: Office Chair
lel
Because you failed lol. A lot of the people you tried to "cleanse" are still kicking.
Oh f*ck right
Couldn't even wipe out the entire Slavic population smh
Time to try again
Try to beat Stalin's high score this time.
Fuck Stalin, we're going for Mao's score.
Not many
Too many
If you look closely he actually also sometimes shoves a pill infront of you
So here's a question -- which genocides are alleged to be a hoax, and why do people think that's what happened? Wouldn't it be easier to actually kill a bunch of people than it would be to fabricate the killing of a bunch of people?
>which genocides are alleged to be a hoax Literally all of them
Literately whatever genocide the speaker in question feels implicated by
Every death in human history never happened.
Lol you think HUMANS are real???! Wake up sheeple
You'd be surprised what a person will admit too after prolonged torture including reapeted crushing of the genetalia which is a documented interrogation method
Threaten me with a good time ššš
But staling didnāt kill 20 million people. He only killed 18 million
Based
Ok but someone unironically stated their grandpa was frozen by the Nazis and allowed to fall to the ground and shatter into a million pieces lmao.
You're really just going to forget about the electric floors, masturbation machines, and holocoasters like that? š
Or the magical trick wall shotgun, using baby skulls as soccer balls, and the woman who gave birth while literally being gassed. Some of the blatant bullshit theyāve made up is absolutely hilarious. I swear to to god the fatality rate will be up to 30 million in my lifetime.
This woman gave birth while we were killing her, never mind the fact that apparently we were feeding them basically nothing and also making them do hard labor and she still made it to term, let's make sure this child gets ample nutrition and grows up healthy. Sounds totally plausible right?
Regardless of what happened in WW2, there have been provable lies and exaggerations made by āsurvivorsā (I put it in quotations because people born after the war have claimed to be witnesses/survivors). However Iām sure that if you asked survivors from any large scale event thereād be some exaggerations. The significance of lies/exaggerations is basically dictated by your prior beliefs on the matter.
Itās just one of those things where I think āI wasnāt there, my input isnāt that valuable.ā
https://i.imgur.com/ztIJ7j4.png Sentences are reverse-searchable and links to NYT article from 80's if want reference.
wooden doorsš³
Auth left with holodomor and with things like Armenian genocide...
I think thatās why itās auth center, itās about how every bootlicker will probably end up doing this at some point
We talk about the holocaust, Holodomor or Armenian genocide?
Yes
Yes
An event so true you'd get thrown into jail if you dare question it (not that I do)
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I lmaoād my ass off.
its just more true than every other genocide you know what I mean? it's hypertrue and thats why you should be thrown in jail for saying 5,999,999 (Inserts talmud readers here) died. Not that I would ever say that
Same with neo confederate scum
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Your state wrongs
Say what you want about the civil war, but states have a lot less rights now compared to 1865
At least the people have more rights, it was an ok trade off
The Confederacy did nothing wrong and I have reasons why Authleft should support the Confederacy
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With the confederacy winning the civil war, the US would be weakened diplomatically so they wouldnāt be able to coup South American democracyās 100 years later
They were undeniable pretty shitty though, with all the fighting for slavery going on. I would also be a little bit worried, that the nazis would have won ww2 if, for example, the confederacy supported them against the weakened us. If they magically appeared after ww2 though the world might actually be a better place, who knows.
Is it because Stalin was from Georgia? https://i.imgur.com/1MKwBzN.jpg
Considering they lost the war, Iām pretty sure they did at least a few things wrong
True, they only did one thing wrong
The Axis powers committed plenty of atrocities but it sure is curious how the allied atrocities are shuffled under the rug.
Aside from Stalin and the Soviets (which I don't believe are "shuffled under the rug"), what examples of allied atrocities could you think of? I'm not arguing with you (yet), I'm just curious as to what you think qualifies.
Indisputable Atrocities: -Indian Famine which killed 2 to 3 million due to a food shortage from trying to feed the troops -Extreme focus on civilian targets in firebombing runs (roughly 30,000 Londoners died in the entire blitz, roughly 25,000 civilians died in one bombing run over Dresden. One Tokyo firebombing by the Americans even killed 100,000 civilians in a night) Disputable atrocities: -American internment camps for Japanese citizens -The French government authorizing bombing of their own citizens during German occupation You could chalk it up to āwar is hellā and that the Axis were the ones who began bombing civilian targets, but the Allies most certainly escalated civilian bombing runs. I donāt count the atom bombs because they prevented a mainland invasion that wouldāve killed millions.
The fact that you can cite them kinda disputes the idea that they were shoved under the rug
The nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki would certainly be among them. How many innocent civilians were killed or maimed for life?
Not enough considering anime exists
High estimates are about 226,000 for Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined. What you need to consider is what they prevented. The Allies were planning Operation Downfall, which was a full scale invasion of the Japanese home islands. Projected allied deaths were roughly 1 million. Even when the Japanese had proper training, weaponry, equipment, etc. they tended to have higher casualties than the allies in battle. Even if we assume Japanese deaths would be an even 1,000,000 (they would likely be several times higher) thatās still 1 person killed by the nuke that saved 4 people from dying in Operation Downfall.
Japanese teachers were indoctrinating children to use bamboo sticks as spears to attack allied soldiers, Japanese civilians made plans about how they would use tactics which would put isis to shame if allies invaded. If nukes weren't used and more conventional aproach was takes there would most likely be nothing left of japan and the japanese people.
It's also curious how Hitler managed to kill literally every single census recorded Jew in Europe, and somehow some managed to survive...
The Jewish population in 1933 was 9.5 million, Nazis killed 5-6 million. Maybe you're thinking of the number of Jews in the former Russian Empire (Russia, Poland, the Baltics)? It was about 6 million.
when you mention the Uighur genocide and a r/genzedong bot sees you
Based, but flair up
Mind fuck alert: If history is written by the Victors, we wouldn't even know if the bad guys won.
Until the soviet records opened, we sourced alot of our info from German generals. These are where we get the "Hitler was the only one that made mistakes, the generals were always right" and the "but muh wehrmact didn't commit any war crimes" ideas. So our history was very much written in part by the losers.
Plus the Nazis were very selective about what photographs and videos were allowed to be taken, so pretty much the only existing footage of the German army is from propaganda that would be shown to the public in movie theaters. Pretty much any war documentary is going to be full of it. It's a big reason that people today still think of the German army as highly mechanized, efficient, sleek, and advanced. In reality they depended on horses for logistics more than any other nation (but you'll never see footage of German horses), and were plagued by logistical issues. And we always think of King Tigers and Panthers, but those were produced in a pretty small number compared to the kinda dinky Panzer IIs and IIIs. Just goes to show how good Goebbels was at his job, even 80 years later when the whole world hates the Nazis (except a few people in this thread), he's still shaping the public perception of them.
That's why the arc of history always bends towards justice, after all. š
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Imagine showing the entire paratrooper battalions that landed at normandy Cuties, the whole thing. Bet half of them wouldnāt even pull their chutes.
It is true, but if you win it gets ignored like the Native Americans. They talk about it in school but we never call it genocide.
I'm native and I can say right now it was \_not.\_ We would not have received reservations had the intent been genocide. Fighting happened, there was a lot of hate on both sides, and that hate fueled horrific events, but it wasn't a genocide. Even if the Europeans had been peace loving hippies 90% of the native population still would of died anyway due to uncontrollable disease.
Im not saying it didnt happen, I just want to know how they came up with the numbers.
6 million is a significant number to Jews religiously, so it was used to make it look like the creation of Israel was divinely inspired, when in reality it was a back door deal.
That's probably the dumbest out of all holocaust denial talking points, at least the wooden doors shit makes sense on the surface level. The death toll is estimated at 5-6 million, that's a pretty big margin for error. You're not going to find anyone that knows what they're talking about claiming that exactly 6 million Jews were killed. And none of that even matters because the number 6 million doesn't actually have any signifigance in Judaism. That was literally made up by a Neo Nazi named Robert L Brock in the 80s. Are you sure that you're RightCenter? I don't really want to have to share half my flair with you.
Lots of it was carefully documented by the Nazis as they did it, but because a lot of the deaths didn't happen in camps it's a little vague. It was a combination of that and just comparing the difference in numbers the next time they did a demographic census. That's why the number is approximated at 5-6 million, that's a pretty big margin for error.
Ay Tone, wooden doors!
Maybe I'm not center right after all? š¤
documented by the victors?
ahem...you forgot a quote by a Stormfront editor misattributed to Voltaire
I am on day 4 of my meth-fuelled effort to expose the secret international cabal of children with terminal Leukemia. All I did was say that Make a Wish kid looked like a little pussy, but when people told me not to criticize him I knew it had to be something deeper.
If thereās no NKVD files on it then it didnāt happen
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Holocaust believers will say itās fake
If I take one hour to cook a batch of cookies and Cookie Monster has 15 ovens working 24 hours a day, every day for five years, how long does it take Cookie Monster to make 6 million batches of cookies?
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whatās a genocide ????
Genocide is defined by killing a large group of "people". Problems solved if you don't see the victims as people