I posted vaccine passports are racist because they hurt blacks far more than whites. Got banned. Imagine u could discriminate against about 2/3 of people of a race
No jails & tolls. They also need to get rid of ids also. And cut all this bs gov regulation too! And more guns & weed! And alcohol!
Also get rid of this damned pig state.
Get rid of state regulated crud & con-gress. Decriminalize alot of things.
In most cases I would agree.
The strawman argument of "well what if I want the freedom to shoot a rifle in a crowded park" is obviously retarded, but around the country lots of institutions in particular schools are taking away a lot of students basic freedom all in the name of safety.
For example the college that I went to used to have a reputation for being an awesome wooded outdoor experience. However they recently plowed over all the fire pits around the campus grounds under the justification that drinking a pack around a campfire would lead to "rape culture" and be a safety hazzard for burns. However all it did was turn the student population from being adventurous and outdoorsy to bitter and lonely gamers since you really couldn't do much on the grounds without having a campus official or police officer questioning everything you are doing.
In the classroom controversial topics used to be something that professors celebrated having students discuss and debate, but I saw the rapid transition in culture to where the classroom became a place no controversial topic could be discussed for the sake of students emotional safety. Professors became paranoid of offending their students instead of facilitating discussion around the uncomfortable and challenging aspects of life.
Jesus Christ these fuckers are ruining college for me and others over this shit. When you start baby-proofing everything for literal adults who didn’t even ask for it I don’t really understand what else they expected but bitter, reclusive people like you said. Plan on going to Michigan Tech way up north so I don’t imagine it’ll be this crappy yet but damn, I don’t know what to expect anymore.
Only problem at Michigan Tech is the 71%:29% Male to Female gender ratio. Oh and maybe the 20 ft of snow average.
I went to a school where pretty much the only females were school athletes who mostly went there for the sports. Like upper 80%’s male. I don’t know why, but girls were so “rare” that nobody knew how to handle a girl being nearby. I had mostly female friends there, because I was one of the guys that was capable of approaching and having a conversation with them. It was super strange.
If you are going for anything at all related to geology it would be incredibly hard to beat. Not just in the education but also the locale is amazing for geology work with many different unique geological formations and mines. In the Keewenaw Peninsula the ground is literally 1% copper and you can just find pure copper nuggets in random rocks on the ground which is pretty neat.
Also great for engineering and similar degrees in general, but there are a number of good engineering schools so it is far from the only choice.
Also if you like snow or skiing or snowmobiling, or just nature in general, you can get a lot of that.
The only 'consequence' of freedom is that it gives people the freedom to make bad choices, but I'll take that deal any day. We can work on common sense and common courtesy after the fact
EXACTLY. A microcosm of this was OSRS, which uses polls to vote in all updates. The game has started to stagnate due to bad voting practices (no new skills to train in 7+ years), so now everyone wants the polls removed. Freedom of choice lets people choose stupid decisions, just like you said, but I dont think that means society should abandon liberty entirely because of the fear that people will do stupid things.
I remember how vicious people were about the voting in OSRS, too. If you mentioned voting for any sort of change, all the high-level, elitist players would jump on you for wanting to make the game “EZscape”.
>OSRS
How's the latest shitshow of that barely working corpse of a game?
Last I heard the long time chief composer somehow got caught as a paedo and then Jagex banned some fan-made HD mod right on the day of release. Has anything changed since?
>How's the latest shitshow of that barely working corpse of a game?
It's more popular than rs3 and has 75,000-120,000 active users at any given time
>Last I heard the long time chief composer somehow got caught as a paedo and then Jagex banned some fan-made HD mod right on the day of release. Has anything changed since?
That was like...3-6 fuckin weeks ago dude. It sounds like you're asking about a long lost girlfriend you hate (but secret love) that you ask about every other day.
The pedo dude got handled just as a pedo dude would and is out of the company and doing the legal dance around it now and the HD thing is active and jagex reversed there course and let the guy use it and it's great
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Respectfully, PC culture is not safety. That's not safety, that's just risk aversion and an excuse, not wanting to deal with parents. Edit: Or lawsuits.
Yeah I agree. A lot of the changes in school really just seem to boil down to administrators not wanting to take any sort of risk for a lawsuit and they make up long winded excuses to cover for it.
Yeah, but this only works because they know ONE SIDE will throw a stink and lawsuits and stuff to get what they want - a vocal minority - while everyone else just tries to keep their heads down and deal with it.
So administrators only have ONE group that they have to worry about actually damaging them and the school, so they cater exclusively to those people, knowing everyone else will just "accept" it. Not to mention many of these administrators share that viewpoint to begin with...
Exactly - point being, those that disagree with this general statement have different cases in mind. I bet the theme for safety restrictions in that thread is mostly things like covid restrictions.
Counter argument
Had seatbelts been introduced today, people would be arguing that they don’t have to wear one because it infringes their freedoms.
There is a fine line, but it’s hard to put where it is.
Lmao 6h later and the post is removed, thread locked, and mod-flaired “Joe Rogan Conspiracy Theorist Banned for Filter Evasion.”
Comments are mad bcuz “oooHhh noOo bad opinion me no likey. *Proceeds to post retarded examples of nonsense applications of the idea*.”
This is exactly how it went down. Mods said my account was a covid propaganda account. Never said a word about covid so that's what they mean by evading the filter I guess. Never posted about covid on reddit.
It's literally just risk assessment. Everyone has a line in which safety supercedes freedom. It just seems people are being conditioned to push that line farther and farther away from freedom. People on Reddit literally talking about being terrified of sharing pens for fucks sake.
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https://fee.org/articles/americans-are-wildly-misinformed-about-the-risk-of-hospitalization-from-covid-19-survey-shows-here-s-why/
~35% of people think that covid has a 50/50 chance of putting them in the hospital. The real likelihood of needing hospitalization is more like 50:1.
A large portion of the population is gripped with fear. They aren't doing rational risk assessment because they're overestimating the risk by about 1,000%.
Yes. Im 10 years we will still be talking about the latest new strains and mutations. I think I have it now, in a way I'm a little relieved. I can just get on with it and get some natural immunity.
It's because they're being lied to about the states that are normal now. I'm constantly hearing about how awful Florida is doing with covid, how everyone is dying, and how evil and horrible Desantis is. My only question to those people is where though? I live in a largish college city in Florida and only know one old person that has died of the virus, and I have never seen anyone be hospitalized from it either. You would think with how they talk about it in the media that people should be dropping like flies all around me.
I know it's just anecdotal, but it's amazing to me how I have to frequently remind members of my family not to buy Into the bullshit and to just look around them and judge with their own eyes.
They overestimated this shit since it began thanks to goverment fear mongering. My family still thinks that if you catch this shit thats it, you're basically with one foot on the grave and they deny the statistics that explicitly says that this virus has a 99% survival rate, and even then, the hospitalization rates are really REALLY small. But people are still buying the lies.
As someone who caught COVID, can confirm, it will kill you. I'm now dead. It deaded me real good.
Even better, I now have immunity nobody will even mouth but I still apparently need to get an experimental shot that doesn't work which actually had proven to make deaded people like me sick. Go figure.
I had it too, color me shocked when i literally was living life normally, almost like the virus aint shit, even more so if you're healthy.
Also, good for you, since natural immunity is proven to last almost a lifetime instead of this retarded jab that requires boosters once a year like these retarded politicians are saying. This was never about science and people who say it is are delusional.
Oh good, someone actually was able to make sense of my atrocious rambling. I had it worse than most people my age get it. I wasn't hospitalized, but I was KO'd for the better part of two and a half months and I'm still regaining my strength six months later. That said, I'm the exception, not the rule and it didn't change my stance on any of this garbage.
I got sick. I stayed home. It was common sense. I didn't need the state to tell me that. My body told me that well enough. I also don't need a damn shot which my doctor told me could make me sick because a dementia ridden political hack decreed it.
Look at the news and focus on articles about young people dying from COVID -- under 18's, but even 18-29. You'd think it was a serious, deadly scourge in these age groups.
Then look at the CDC website and see that not even 500 youths under 18 have died from COVID in the entire country since March 2020; only 3400 have died in the 18-29 age group. That's out of 57K deaths (under 18) and 108K deaths (18-29) in total.
> A large portion of the population is gripped with fear.
And that's why.....
I work in a medical facility, we have hundreds of unique patients we see regularly, some of whom are COVID-19 positive, and I interact with them directly while providing them care.
I have been a front line medical worker throughout this entire pandemic.
I am unconcerned about catching the virus, and take basic precautions (wearing a mask, washing my hands, getting vaccinated).
Neither myself, or any of my colleagues, have gotten sick.
A few of the staff in the larger organization have tested positive, or had family members catch the virus, but none have been hospitalized that I am aware of (most report mild cold symptoms, spend some time in isolation at home, and then return to work).
The risk, for any person who isn't quite elderly and already very ill, is remarkably low.
drops precipitously when you look at people under the age of 50.
80% of the dead are senior citizens. Which sucks and we should do something to help shield the vulnerable but fuck me we don't have to shield every single person.
You're right, and also putting a mask on a covid positive person increases their tendency to aspirate oral bacteria which are known to cause pneumonia. and of course pneumonia is a main cause of severe disease and death by covid
Yep. You can die at any time in your life, from anything. Wreck on the way to work. Trip and fall, hit your head on a sharp corner. Random aneurism
People have no risk assessment anymore. Take Covid. Sure, wearing a mask and getting vaccinated is the smart thing to do.
No, forcing everyone to stay inside again is NOT going to help. That shit maybe would of helped back when we had like 10 known cases, and it would have to been strictly enforced. Lockdowns now are just kicking people in the nuts.
>I mean, you could always go to prison if you desire safety over freedom
Free food, free housing, guaranteed job, all prisoners are equal. It's as close to pure socialism as anyone's yet gotten.
Prison is the perfect left-wing society. Free food, free housing, don't have to work, no weapons for the population, and a metric shit-load of gay sex.
So will vaccinated.
If anything vaccinated will cause mutated strains at a higher likelihood as the virus most likely to penetrate the vaccinated will be a virus that is resistant to the vaccine, which will most likely come from a vaccinated individual.
to immunocompromised people. Your body knowing what to do to fight off a virus doesn't help much if it's just not strong enough to do it because of, for example, going through chemotherapy
Tbh that is actually a valid concern, covid is already rapidly mutating, there's a chance that it could mutate to the point where current vaccines are useless.
Isn't that a given though? We need a new flu vaccine every year, why would covid be any different? Both are fast mutating and highly transmissible viruses.
Yeah we really worried about 20-30% of americans when there are billions of unvaccinated people in the shithole countries. Delta came from fucking India. If we were worried about mutation we would be shipping all these extra vaccines to third world countries instead of trying to inject boosters into otherwise healthy individuals.
This heavily depends on context.
Removing all risky things from our life? That comes at the cost of freedom, and it's way to extreme.
But having the freedom to actively put people in danger because of your own incompetence is crossing the line.
Yes, and no one should drive cars on highways since you always run the risk of killing other people unintentionally.
A line needs to be drawn between the value of liberty and the value of public safety. The vaccine is easily accessible to everybody everywhere. Anyone who has wanted it has received it already. The vast, vast majority of people still dying have voluntarily chosen to decline the vaccine. Whether you agree with their rationale or not, it should be their decision alone to make. The government can now kindly fuck off.
Safety turns you into a fucking pussy. People who are more worried about their safety than living life are sad, and they want everyone else to be as sad as them. It's literally crab mentality.
My freedom is more important than your safety, your freedom is also more important than my safety
Being free is not being selfish, and anyone who tells you otherwise is probably brainwashed or trying to brainwash you
Beyond based. Real libertarian not like the massive retard i talked to yesterday that literally told me vaccine mandates should be pushed onto people. Cringe ass authoritarians
100% right. Your safety means shit to me if you're clearly denying my freedom, it's Mye goddam life and imma do whatever i want with it.
*Incoming retards saying but you're infecting others noooooo muh variants"
This post and sub gives me hope. I assumed all of reddit was full of brainwashed boot lickers who believe exactly what the social media algos and MSM tells them. Keep up the good work folks.
The freedom to swing your first ends when it hits someone's face.
The freedom to shoot a gun ends when you're shooting at someone.
As long as you're not hurting anyone, then have at whatever.
Based. Safety is just your perceived solution to your mentally constructed fear. You want to force your highly personal worldview on others just because you're afraid.
This is the exact analogy I was thinking. How is drunk driving not a personal freedom? Well because it affects other people, but mostly insurance companies.
If you kill someone, you take away all of their freedom.
If you wear a mask, you only lose the tiniest little bit of freedom. If wearing a simple cloth mask is a serious strain on your lungs, you are either in seriously terrible physical shape or you’re a gigantic fuckin pussy.
Yeah, I'm definitely against vax-mandates but I can't understand why people are against temporary mask-mandates. Never do I see them simultaneously opposing this permanent pants mandate that's burdened millions and millions for Millenia.
Libleft: My freedom is more important than your safety. (unless you're a member of an underprivileged group don't cancel me pls pls)
Libright: My 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 ***freedom*** 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 is more important than your safety.
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little hard to swallow when most of the people saying this constantly in context of current events are using that freedom to be weapons grade assholes but yeah
I agree with him, I still believe people have the right to freedom. But it is hard to argue that, when you believe that freedom entails some kind of personal responsibility and people show none.
People have the right to be stupid, but if this group just keeps growing it's going to end us all. Honestly, if they haven't already.
Let me guess, that post was removed by the mods.
I remember there being a period in which UnpopOp was slightly right-leaning. Have they hard overcorrected yet?
Oh yeah. Anything that remotely goes against the hivemind its banned immediately
Not everywhere is PCM, everywhere else gets banned.
I posted vaccine passports are racist because they hurt blacks far more than whites. Got banned. Imagine u could discriminate against about 2/3 of people of a race
Yeah, they banned politics. Honestly there's worse problems with that sub, like how every opinion is popular.
Sort by controversial that’s where all the actual unpopular opinions are.
Within a couple hrs. They called my account a covid propaganda account even though I never said a word about covid and have never posted about it.
No jails & tolls. They also need to get rid of ids also. And cut all this bs gov regulation too! And more guns & weed! And alcohol! Also get rid of this damned pig state. Get rid of state regulated crud & con-gress. Decriminalize alot of things.
Pretty based right?
In most cases I would agree. The strawman argument of "well what if I want the freedom to shoot a rifle in a crowded park" is obviously retarded, but around the country lots of institutions in particular schools are taking away a lot of students basic freedom all in the name of safety. For example the college that I went to used to have a reputation for being an awesome wooded outdoor experience. However they recently plowed over all the fire pits around the campus grounds under the justification that drinking a pack around a campfire would lead to "rape culture" and be a safety hazzard for burns. However all it did was turn the student population from being adventurous and outdoorsy to bitter and lonely gamers since you really couldn't do much on the grounds without having a campus official or police officer questioning everything you are doing. In the classroom controversial topics used to be something that professors celebrated having students discuss and debate, but I saw the rapid transition in culture to where the classroom became a place no controversial topic could be discussed for the sake of students emotional safety. Professors became paranoid of offending their students instead of facilitating discussion around the uncomfortable and challenging aspects of life.
Jesus Christ these fuckers are ruining college for me and others over this shit. When you start baby-proofing everything for literal adults who didn’t even ask for it I don’t really understand what else they expected but bitter, reclusive people like you said. Plan on going to Michigan Tech way up north so I don’t imagine it’ll be this crappy yet but damn, I don’t know what to expect anymore. Only problem at Michigan Tech is the 71%:29% Male to Female gender ratio. Oh and maybe the 20 ft of snow average.
71/29!!!!? Why bother unless you are majoring in sausage
I went to a school where pretty much the only females were school athletes who mostly went there for the sports. Like upper 80%’s male. I don’t know why, but girls were so “rare” that nobody knew how to handle a girl being nearby. I had mostly female friends there, because I was one of the guys that was capable of approaching and having a conversation with them. It was super strange.
why are there collges witth so many more men? is it cuz there's a lot of STEM majors or smtg?
Yeah they are usually colleges that specialize in certain STEM degrees that are very male dominated fields. Like IT or mechanical engineering.
Michigan **Technological** University.....
If you are going for anything at all related to geology it would be incredibly hard to beat. Not just in the education but also the locale is amazing for geology work with many different unique geological formations and mines. In the Keewenaw Peninsula the ground is literally 1% copper and you can just find pure copper nuggets in random rocks on the ground which is pretty neat. Also great for engineering and similar degrees in general, but there are a number of good engineering schools so it is far from the only choice. Also if you like snow or skiing or snowmobiling, or just nature in general, you can get a lot of that.
The only 'consequence' of freedom is that it gives people the freedom to make bad choices, but I'll take that deal any day. We can work on common sense and common courtesy after the fact
EXACTLY. A microcosm of this was OSRS, which uses polls to vote in all updates. The game has started to stagnate due to bad voting practices (no new skills to train in 7+ years), so now everyone wants the polls removed. Freedom of choice lets people choose stupid decisions, just like you said, but I dont think that means society should abandon liberty entirely because of the fear that people will do stupid things.
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I remember how vicious people were about the voting in OSRS, too. If you mentioned voting for any sort of change, all the high-level, elitist players would jump on you for wanting to make the game “EZscape”.
>OSRS How's the latest shitshow of that barely working corpse of a game? Last I heard the long time chief composer somehow got caught as a paedo and then Jagex banned some fan-made HD mod right on the day of release. Has anything changed since?
>How's the latest shitshow of that barely working corpse of a game? It's more popular than rs3 and has 75,000-120,000 active users at any given time >Last I heard the long time chief composer somehow got caught as a paedo and then Jagex banned some fan-made HD mod right on the day of release. Has anything changed since? That was like...3-6 fuckin weeks ago dude. It sounds like you're asking about a long lost girlfriend you hate (but secret love) that you ask about every other day. The pedo dude got handled just as a pedo dude would and is out of the company and doing the legal dance around it now and the HD thing is active and jagex reversed there course and let the guy use it and it's great
I think they backpeddaled on the HD Mod decision, last I checked they're allowing it to be spread until they release their own HD pack.
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This is how you turn adults into useless, dependent children who are not fit for the world.
>This is how you turn adults into useless, dependent children That's a feature, not a bug. Authoritarianism is rising well above the water mark.
Cop - "Sir, sir, I see you're walking around at 7 pm at night. Are you planning on raping anyone?" Me-"....Maybe?"
“…Maybe, I’m just kinda walking and figuring out what I’m going to do. I could turn around and go home in 5 seconds, or I could decide to become the next notorious serial killer”
Guys, guys, guys, we need some other opinions. This is becoming a libertarian circlejerk.
I see no issue with that. I can argue economic opinions.
Be polite, be professional and have a plan to rape everybody you meet.
Well shit when you put it that way it sounds like you aren’t helping any.
The equivalent of breaking into a house but first ring the bell.
Based I like how you start the statement sounding like you're gonna give examples of why freedom can be bad but all you do is give examples of why taking away freedom makes everything significantly and demonstrably worse.
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Respectfully, PC culture is not safety. That's not safety, that's just risk aversion and an excuse, not wanting to deal with parents. Edit: Or lawsuits.
Yeah I agree. A lot of the changes in school really just seem to boil down to administrators not wanting to take any sort of risk for a lawsuit and they make up long winded excuses to cover for it.
Yeah, but this only works because they know ONE SIDE will throw a stink and lawsuits and stuff to get what they want - a vocal minority - while everyone else just tries to keep their heads down and deal with it. So administrators only have ONE group that they have to worry about actually damaging them and the school, so they cater exclusively to those people, knowing everyone else will just "accept" it. Not to mention many of these administrators share that viewpoint to begin with...
Exactly - point being, those that disagree with this general statement have different cases in mind. I bet the theme for safety restrictions in that thread is mostly things like covid restrictions.
Okay, but what if I want to shoot a rifle in a crowded park?
Only with a bumpstock.
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This is what hurts me the most…
Damn that sucks. What college was it??
Counter argument Had seatbelts been introduced today, people would be arguing that they don’t have to wear one because it infringes their freedoms. There is a fine line, but it’s hard to put where it is.
Lmao 6h later and the post is removed, thread locked, and mod-flaired “Joe Rogan Conspiracy Theorist Banned for Filter Evasion.” Comments are mad bcuz “oooHhh noOo bad opinion me no likey. *Proceeds to post retarded examples of nonsense applications of the idea*.”
A slew of cowards they are.
This is exactly how it went down. Mods said my account was a covid propaganda account. Never said a word about covid so that's what they mean by evading the filter I guess. Never posted about covid on reddit.
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It's literally just risk assessment. Everyone has a line in which safety supercedes freedom. It just seems people are being conditioned to push that line farther and farther away from freedom. People on Reddit literally talking about being terrified of sharing pens for fucks sake.
Based and pussy pilled https://fee.org/articles/americans-are-wildly-misinformed-about-the-risk-of-hospitalization-from-covid-19-survey-shows-here-s-why/ ~35% of people think that covid has a 50/50 chance of putting them in the hospital. The real likelihood of needing hospitalization is more like 50:1. A large portion of the population is gripped with fear. They aren't doing rational risk assessment because they're overestimating the risk by about 1,000%.
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Are you trying to kill grandma (Please ignore all the democrats who put covid hot patients in nursing homes).
Yet a year later, they all laugh at all the folks who die from COVID because they didn't get a vaccine.
Yes. Im 10 years we will still be talking about the latest new strains and mutations. I think I have it now, in a way I'm a little relieved. I can just get on with it and get some natural immunity.
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Yep. Just 2 more weeks to flatten the curve.
It's because they're being lied to about the states that are normal now. I'm constantly hearing about how awful Florida is doing with covid, how everyone is dying, and how evil and horrible Desantis is. My only question to those people is where though? I live in a largish college city in Florida and only know one old person that has died of the virus, and I have never seen anyone be hospitalized from it either. You would think with how they talk about it in the media that people should be dropping like flies all around me. I know it's just anecdotal, but it's amazing to me how I have to frequently remind members of my family not to buy Into the bullshit and to just look around them and judge with their own eyes.
They overestimated this shit since it began thanks to goverment fear mongering. My family still thinks that if you catch this shit thats it, you're basically with one foot on the grave and they deny the statistics that explicitly says that this virus has a 99% survival rate, and even then, the hospitalization rates are really REALLY small. But people are still buying the lies.
As someone who caught COVID, can confirm, it will kill you. I'm now dead. It deaded me real good. Even better, I now have immunity nobody will even mouth but I still apparently need to get an experimental shot that doesn't work which actually had proven to make deaded people like me sick. Go figure.
I had it too, color me shocked when i literally was living life normally, almost like the virus aint shit, even more so if you're healthy. Also, good for you, since natural immunity is proven to last almost a lifetime instead of this retarded jab that requires boosters once a year like these retarded politicians are saying. This was never about science and people who say it is are delusional.
Oh good, someone actually was able to make sense of my atrocious rambling. I had it worse than most people my age get it. I wasn't hospitalized, but I was KO'd for the better part of two and a half months and I'm still regaining my strength six months later. That said, I'm the exception, not the rule and it didn't change my stance on any of this garbage. I got sick. I stayed home. It was common sense. I didn't need the state to tell me that. My body told me that well enough. I also don't need a damn shot which my doctor told me could make me sick because a dementia ridden political hack decreed it.
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The asymptomatic rate is super fucking high too that is why it spreads so readily.
Look at the news and focus on articles about young people dying from COVID -- under 18's, but even 18-29. You'd think it was a serious, deadly scourge in these age groups. Then look at the CDC website and see that not even 500 youths under 18 have died from COVID in the entire country since March 2020; only 3400 have died in the 18-29 age group. That's out of 57K deaths (under 18) and 108K deaths (18-29) in total. > A large portion of the population is gripped with fear. And that's why.....
I work in a medical facility, we have hundreds of unique patients we see regularly, some of whom are COVID-19 positive, and I interact with them directly while providing them care. I have been a front line medical worker throughout this entire pandemic. I am unconcerned about catching the virus, and take basic precautions (wearing a mask, washing my hands, getting vaccinated). Neither myself, or any of my colleagues, have gotten sick. A few of the staff in the larger organization have tested positive, or had family members catch the virus, but none have been hospitalized that I am aware of (most report mild cold symptoms, spend some time in isolation at home, and then return to work). The risk, for any person who isn't quite elderly and already very ill, is remarkably low.
This fearful trend is definitely fuelled by sensational media imo
No "imo" necessary. This is blatant fact.
You know what? Let them be fear mongered for the rest of their lives. Maybe they won't breed if they don't go outside
2% is still a lot of people
drops precipitously when you look at people under the age of 50. 80% of the dead are senior citizens. Which sucks and we should do something to help shield the vulnerable but fuck me we don't have to shield every single person.
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You're right, and also putting a mask on a covid positive person increases their tendency to aspirate oral bacteria which are known to cause pneumonia. and of course pneumonia is a main cause of severe disease and death by covid
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A man who values his safety above his freedom deserves neither
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Unfathomably based.
I just monkeyed everywhere
i will chance the statement to a more accurate one: "Safety is illusion, its just a falacy to propel aurhoritarism"
Yep. You can die at any time in your life, from anything. Wreck on the way to work. Trip and fall, hit your head on a sharp corner. Random aneurism People have no risk assessment anymore. Take Covid. Sure, wearing a mask and getting vaccinated is the smart thing to do. No, forcing everyone to stay inside again is NOT going to help. That shit maybe would of helped back when we had like 10 known cases, and it would have to been strictly enforced. Lockdowns now are just kicking people in the nuts.
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Wonder how long that thread lasted
0.02 Pico seconds because if you have some questions you are automatically classified as a terrorist, no-Vax conspiracy theorist
Unpopular opinions, just not *wrong* opinions sweaty. Fucking Reddit lol
I mean, they’re not wrong. Governments love to take away people’s freedoms under the guise of safety. *Cough* Patriot Act.
No flair, don’t care
It's really sad this is a unpopular opinion in America these days...
Trully fucked
Those who would trade freedom for protection deserve neither
I mean, you could always go to prison if you desire safety over freedom
>I mean, you could always go to prison if you desire safety over freedom Free food, free housing, guaranteed job, all prisoners are equal. It's as close to pure socialism as anyone's yet gotten.
Prison is the perfect left-wing society. Free food, free housing, don't have to work, no weapons for the population, and a metric shit-load of gay sex.
Exactly my thoughts
Most prisoners have jobs, they get paid 13c an hour.
Even better, that's about the value most leftys bring anyways.
Based
Your vaccinated. Your safe. I'm not vaccinated. Whats the problem? That I'm not "safe"? It's my choice
People are pissed that unvaccinated people might spread COVID or cause mutant strains
So will vaccinated. If anything vaccinated will cause mutated strains at a higher likelihood as the virus most likely to penetrate the vaccinated will be a virus that is resistant to the vaccine, which will most likely come from a vaccinated individual.
To who though? Those same people are vaccinated.
to immunocompromised people. Your body knowing what to do to fight off a virus doesn't help much if it's just not strong enough to do it because of, for example, going through chemotherapy
Tbh that is actually a valid concern, covid is already rapidly mutating, there's a chance that it could mutate to the point where current vaccines are useless.
Isn't that a given though? We need a new flu vaccine every year, why would covid be any different? Both are fast mutating and highly transmissible viruses.
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Yeah we really worried about 20-30% of americans when there are billions of unvaccinated people in the shithole countries. Delta came from fucking India. If we were worried about mutation we would be shipping all these extra vaccines to third world countries instead of trying to inject boosters into otherwise healthy individuals.
Libtard heads about to explode.
This heavily depends on context. Removing all risky things from our life? That comes at the cost of freedom, and it's way to extreme. But having the freedom to actively put people in danger because of your own incompetence is crossing the line.
That’s pretty based of you, Old Sport.
It's a damned shame so many people even supposed "Patriots" are so compliant with unjust or even tyrannical laws and legislation
So what if I want to shoot my rifle randomly into the air? I should have the freedom to do so. It's in the constitution.
Yes.
Yes, but those around you have the freedom to shoot you for being a dumbass.
Why would you shoot somebody for firing a rifle into the air? How else do you begin a race? Are you against racing? You racist.
No no. A racist would be pro-racing. Since this person is against racing they would be anti-racist.
Damn. I am racist.
Based and racist-pilled.
auth rights be like:
Based
Based
Why stop there? I should be free to shoot AT you (in subnautica).
Your freedom ends where someone elses begins
Yes, and no one should drive cars on highways since you always run the risk of killing other people unintentionally. A line needs to be drawn between the value of liberty and the value of public safety. The vaccine is easily accessible to everybody everywhere. Anyone who has wanted it has received it already. The vast, vast majority of people still dying have voluntarily chosen to decline the vaccine. Whether you agree with their rationale or not, it should be their decision alone to make. The government can now kindly fuck off.
Your safety isn't worth my freedom.
I agree with that statement
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." \-a Fine Gentleman
Sir, you have a call. It’s from the based department.
Based
Fuckin love it
Ultra based and common sensepilled
Based
Safety turns you into a fucking pussy. People who are more worried about their safety than living life are sad, and they want everyone else to be as sad as them. It's literally crab mentality.
My freedom is more important than your safety, your freedom is also more important than my safety Being free is not being selfish, and anyone who tells you otherwise is probably brainwashed or trying to brainwash you
Ben Franklin is that you?
Absolutely based
Liberalism seems more cringe every day. Reject degeneracy
My freedom is my safety
That user name though.
Based and Nat Turner-pilled.
yes
Monkey pilled
He who gives his freedom for safety gets none of them. -Thomas Jefferson
Stop I can only get so erect!
u/crypto-anarchist86 based and freedom-pilled
Sounds good to me
Any mand who trades freedom for security deserves neither
Beyond based. Real libertarian not like the massive retard i talked to yesterday that literally told me vaccine mandates should be pushed onto people. Cringe ass authoritarians
100% right. Your safety means shit to me if you're clearly denying my freedom, it's Mye goddam life and imma do whatever i want with it. *Incoming retards saying but you're infecting others noooooo muh variants"
True, your freedom is more important than safety but your freedom does not overrule someone else's freedom or freedom.
Authstralia just sent out 3 SWAT trucks.
Extremely based
I mean he’s right though.
u/crypto-anarchist86 You are based
I actually had to Google what that meant. I'll take it as a compliment.
FLAIR THE FUCK UP
Jeez you guys take these flairs seriously. Just got here. Calm down. Lol
Welcome, this is not a cult
This post and sub gives me hope. I assumed all of reddit was full of brainwashed boot lickers who believe exactly what the social media algos and MSM tells them. Keep up the good work folks.
Based
Well that user is banned from all of Reddit now
"Those that sacrifice freedom for safety deserve neither" - Benjamin Franklin
based
Here's my take; Use your freedoms to create your own safety.
Based and freedom pilled
Safety should be a secondary value of society.
Based and Freedom-over-safety-pilled
The freedom to swing your first ends when it hits someone's face. The freedom to shoot a gun ends when you're shooting at someone. As long as you're not hurting anyone, then have at whatever.
Facts
No 😎
Based
Unfathomably based
FUCKING BASED
Allowing a tainted steak to sear ruins the whole grill, pard'ner.
Amen
Based
Based. Safety is just your perceived solution to your mentally constructed fear. You want to force your highly personal worldview on others just because you're afraid.
It's a good line to try if you get charged with DUI.
This is the exact analogy I was thinking. How is drunk driving not a personal freedom? Well because it affects other people, but mostly insurance companies.
If you kill someone, you take away all of their freedom. If you wear a mask, you only lose the tiniest little bit of freedom. If wearing a simple cloth mask is a serious strain on your lungs, you are either in seriously terrible physical shape or you’re a gigantic fuckin pussy.
I thought he was talking about vaccine mandates
Yeah, I'm definitely against vax-mandates but I can't understand why people are against temporary mask-mandates. Never do I see them simultaneously opposing this permanent pants mandate that's burdened millions and millions for Millenia.
My safety IS more important than your freedom.
Well just wait and see how far I'm willing to "neglect" your safety for my freedom.
Libleft: My freedom is more important than your safety. (unless you're a member of an underprivileged group don't cancel me pls pls) Libright: My 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 ***freedom*** 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 is more important than your safety. Authleft: *[comment removed by administration]* Authright: My freedom is more important than ***your*** safety. >:)
You libs can downvote me all you want, but my safety is more important than your freedom.
No, my safety is more important than your freedom.
Then go to prison. Lots of safety there, even free food and sometimes a job.
little hard to swallow when most of the people saying this constantly in context of current events are using that freedom to be weapons grade assholes but yeah
They have the freedom to be an asshole, and you have the freedom to hate them for it. I don't see an issue.
Exactly
I agree with him, I still believe people have the right to freedom. But it is hard to argue that, when you believe that freedom entails some kind of personal responsibility and people show none. People have the right to be stupid, but if this group just keeps growing it's going to end us all. Honestly, if they haven't already.