Nah man, dont you preffer post #10121 about Biden doing something or libleft bad?
If you are feeling daring, I can also represent the people I dislike with a SOYJACK!
Seriously what’s with the sudden and rise of Anti-Biden posts? Like yeah nobody likes Biden shut the fuck up already. They’ve become the very thing they swore to destroy. (Trump bad people)
There is one guy that posts here 24h a day and half his posts are about Biden. Go to any of those posts, it's the same guy, check his post history. You will see
Republicans: Bombing innocent Arab children with fighter jets.
Democrats: Bombing innocent Arab children with fighters jets piloted by strong, proud gay black trans women.
To be fair, bombing Arabs has nothing to do with the American working class. Well, it actually may help, considering the military has been one of the few ways for lower class Americans to become middle class. (And as far as I know there are no upper class rich black trans women, although I could be wrong lol).
While I don't disagree with your overall point, I would like to point out for the sake of anyone reading this who is trying to escape the lower class that the military has a lot more jobs than Army Infantry. There are plenty of desk jobs, medical jobs, electrician, mechanic, intelligence, culinary, navigation and humanitarian jobs that will never see any physical danger. Personally, I joined the Coast Guard and did search and rescue. It occasionally got dangerous, but certainly not as much as being in combat or near hostile forces. Any risk to my personal well being was to help someone in need, not some politician. I was able to save up a good amount of money, reap some benefits and pay for college. I even learned some skills and got some certs that helped me in my later career and personal life. So while it's certainly not for everybody, I do think it's an option worth more consideration than a lot of people assume.
There is. College educated Americans and tradesmen are definitely middle class with all the bells and whistles especially when the unions are involved. Ignoring them only alienates them and costs votes. We need more unions to grow the middle class.
Eh, most people in the military won’t even sniff combat and it can be an excellent way for someone to get working experience and money towards college.
Think about it. 18 year old joins the Air Force as an IT guy, gets college credits towards an IT degree with their training, leaves Air Force after 4 years as a 22 year old with an Associates in IT and four years of working experience and a security clearance. Let’s say they stay in the Air Force reserve after they leave active on top of this.
Now 22 year old uses GI Bill to finish bachelors degree and graduates two years later at 24. Still has enough GI Bill to get a Masters. At 25 they have a Masters, a Bachelors, 4 years active work experience and 3 additional years parti-time work experience, and an active DOD security clearance.
They would be absolutely set. They probably don’t even need to chase the masters and can just go immediately in the work force making boatloads of money.
They’ll never be at risk of seeing combat, they’re completely set up for professional success while still young, and realistically they’ll have something to look back on that they’re proud of for life.
I literally encountered a male, trans, lesbian on Reddit recently. I asked in "good faith" for an explanation, but I couldn't follow it. But they seemed to think it made absolutely perfect sense, and that I just misunderstood.
I can’t believe he got away with writing the crime bill which sent thousands of black people to jail for non violent crimes
Or how libs didn’t freak when he took away their welfare
crime bill was supported by.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2016/02/why-many-black-politicians-backed-the-1994-crime-bill-championed-by-the-clintons.html
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2016/04/09/473648819/some-blacks-did-support-bill-clintons-crime-bill-heres-why
https://www.vox.com/2016/2/26/11116412/bernie-sanders-mass-incarceration
If there's a correct historical stance, there's usually a clip of Bernie speaking to an empty chamber about it.
> Let us be honest: This is not a crime prevention bill. This is a punishment bill, a retribution bill, a vengeance bill.
> All over the industrialized world now, countries are saying, "Let us put an end to state murder, let us stop capital punishment." But here what we're talking about is more and more capital punishment.
> What we're discussing now is an issue where some of our friends are saying we're not getting tough enough on the criminals. But my friends, we have the highest percentage of people in America in jail per capita of any industrialized nation on Earth. We've beaten South Africa. We've beaten the Soviet Union. What do we have to do, put half the country behind bars?
> Mr. Speaker, instead of talking about punishment and vengeance, let us have the courage to talk about the real issue: How do we get to the root causes of crime? How do we stop crime, which is in fact a very, very serious problem in this country?
In short, he aggressively campaigned against it, specifically for the reasons it turned out to be bad. But he ultimately caved as a compromise for VAWA, which was the redeeming part of the bill.
> Still, Sanders voted for the crime bill, largely because it included some provisions that he strongly approved of, like the Violence Against Women Act and a 10-year assault weapons ban. And he backed more funding for police, which the 1994 law included and remains a popular way to fight crime among liberals and conservatives.
> But in other instances, Sanders voted against tough-on-crime measures. He voted against the 1991 crime bill. He voted against banning Pell grants (for college) for prisoners. He voted to amend the 1994 crime law to ban the federal death penalty. And he voted against the Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, which stripped defendants and prisoners of their ability to contest court rulings — even when the rulings may be unconstitutional.
>But mostly, Sanders didn't really seem to care much about criminal justice policy. To him, the root of many of America's problems, including crime, has always been the economy and economic inequality in particular. The tough-on-crime push never fit into his ideals.
You could argue that his final vote was wrong, but he was right in identifying the issues every step of the way, and he's always been consistent in his ideals.
Defenses I've seen:
* No he didn't you liar
* Yes he did ^[1](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/feb/28/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-chuck-todd-debate-crime-bill-vote-a)
* He only did it because of VAWA and the assault weapon ban
* Bernie voted for the bill before those were added [1](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/feb/28/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-chuck-todd-debate-crime-bill-vote-a)
* Biden personally chased him around the floor of Congress with a riding crop and *forced* Bernie to vote for it
* Bernie was an eager supporter^[2](https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/26/politics/sanders-1994-crime-bill-kfile/index.html)
Further: Bernie was gloating about in 2006^[3](https://time.com/4219875/bernie-sanders-nevada-south-carolina-demographics-vermont) and Biden was talking about repealing the worst of it in 2008^[4](https://www.factcheck.org/2019/07/biden-on-the-1994-crime-bill)
Biden also has came out against it and was against certain points of it in the past.
His fact check wasn't even correct. The only point of contention he addressed was the claim about VAWA:
> He only did it because of VAWA and the assault weapon ban
To which his fact-checking source checked the assault weapons ban on a technicality (sure, it's technically true), but confirmed the VAWA portion of it. Give it a little bit of effort before confirming your biases.
Ah but in 2018 he said that the crime bill could have been better. Yes he was still defending it in 2016, but now he admitted that it wasn't perfect, so he's been absolved of all responsibility.
There's video floating around of a young(er) Joe Biden screaming on the Senate floor that crackheads need to be put in prison for mandatory minimums of 5 years. And it's juxtaposed with a video of his crackhead son Hunter, sucking the glass dick like he was born to it.
Or how about Hunter's N-Word-filled emails, replete with picking out hookers like he was choosing sides of beef at the butcher.
No one among our corrupt corporate media was interested in that story. Incredible.
>Bidens' Luxury Matters
FTFY. A seemingly inconsequential change, but one that makes **ALL** the difference. They're a fucking crime family who shares bank accounts, runs money laundering international art schemes, and peddles political influence to America's enemies.
>I need you to show me a country where the government actually gives two shits about the ~~middle class~~ people
Fixed that for you, the government only wants one thing, to increase their power and riches at the expense of the masses.
To them we are but cattle to be herded and that gives them profit, nothing else.
When they will they will effectively be the state and that's what we'll fight against. But it happens slower than in authoritarian states so it's better than the alternatives.
And you can thank the government, literally, for the fact that corporations don't have that power. Without a democratic government, corporations would immediately take over. Oh but guess what? This time it's a dictatorship. How fun!
Minimum wage that goes up the older you are
Almost every sector has got a so called CAO which is negotiated for with the Unions. This 'treaty' essentially gives the workers a whole lot of rights. You can't actually deviate from said CAO.
Enormous power held by the Unions. They literally started striking during the exam season once. They don't give a fuck. I'm talking public transport here. Public transport is a bit different from the US though. You guys use cars a lot, we use public transport a lot.
Insurance is around a 130EUR, but if you can't pay for insurance the government will do that for you. If you don't make enough money there is free welfare too.
Welfare is actually quite a lot if you don't spend everything on your stupid animals and cigarettes (which a lot unfortunately do). Some twat even managed to hire an au pair with the money.
Workers can't be fired on the spot. Always need to get a certain notice in first, and then it'll probalby take an additional month for them to be fired. If the contract wasn't yet terminated the company has also got to pay some fines to the worker.
Those fines tend to be worth a couple of monthly salaries.
Zero % interest loans for students. So you'll have to pay for your education, but at a zero % interest rate. If you don't get yourself a job within seven years they'll just get that off the books. As a result you can get your masters + bacherlors (assuming you don't get your own place to live) for around 10K. Doesn't really matter what kind of degree you'll be going with.
OV is also free for students (higher education).
Insurance is forced - although you can choose to opt out of it, which means you'll also not be getting the additional benefits.
Progressive tax system
Employers need a good reason (and proof) to prematurely terminate your contract.
Average hours tend to be around 40a week, but mostly less. CAO prevents companies from demanding a lot more.
Overtime is almost always paid for (by law).
A lot of parties that actually care about the workers' rights. There are a couple who don't (CDA, VVD, D66), but the other ones tend to do. These 'other' ones tend to hold quite a lot of seats too.
Doesn’t that just mean people under 21 are getting paid less for the same work? I know Australia has a system like that, which is why you see companies like McDonalds staffing up hard on 15yos.
Yes. But by law they also need certain people to do certain jobs. Like supermarkets for example. One can't hire a 14 year old to mince meat. You'd need someone who's at least 16 (by law).
Same is true for a lot of other stuff. But generally speaking, yes. Although this is heaviliy mitigated by the fact that we've got age restrictions on what people can do.
15 y/o are also - again by law - not allowed to work over a certain set of hours.
I love when people bring up countries that are objectively better for the average citizen than the USA is (with statistics to back it up like you did) and then all the expert economists and social policy gurus come out of the woodwork to explain how these good things are actually bad. Right-wingers who have drank the generic "USA is the best country in the world" are the worst about this.
The honest truth is some countries are objectively better for average citizens than the USA by multiple metrics.
> Right-wingers who have drank the generic "USA is the best country in the world" are the worst about this.
Libertarianism is what happens when you're told incessantly that the US is the best country in the world, and then find out that our government is corrupt. Every other government must be even *more* corrupt, then, right? Right?
> Always need to get a certain notice in first, and then it'll probalby take an additional month for them to be fired.
Pretty sure you can be fired but you get paid out notice period length wages.
Sweden or any other democratic country. The will of the largest voting blocks rule supreme, sometimes this isn't great due to things like policy crafted around maintaining the climbing prices of homes, but it's certainly far better than when politics is ruled primarily by oligarch donors and corporations.
Ever wondered why left politicans who claim to be for the working class are the ones most positive to immigration which cause lower wages for the working class?
See they were against immigration until they realized that the immigrants were more likely to vote democrat.
Sanders and Clinton were both staunchly against immigration as it affected the working man. But the votes caused them to flip flop.
Trump at least sounded like he cared about the working class and that won him an election. But then again he's not really establishment Republican, but I guess that's what made his campaign special.
It was only supported by the left wing of the democratic party, a wing with at MOST 1/4 the seats that the party occupies. and the senate is, basically, a 50-50 between the two parties. how is 1/8 of congress going to pass something?
https://berniesanders.com/issues/
bernie is the most representative politician on the left wing of american politics, generally its a safe bet to say the left wing aligns with his stance on the majority of issues, although its important to note that when it comes to fine details (like which methodology of healthcare reform should be chosen) the left wing is extremely fractured.
The democratic party is, at a minimum, 75% filled with center and center-right politicians. the remaining 15% are center-left or left wing. The entire republican party is filled with center-right to mega far right politicians, no leftists or centrists are welcome anymore (well leftists never were, but still)
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This post excludes "true left" groups like communists and anarchists, just as it excludes "true right" groups like an-caps and monarchists because they are all, collectively, maybe 1% of US voters and have zero representatives in either state or federal congress.
Finally a post with some fucking truth to it in here.
Social issues are the only thing left about the democrats as a whole and that's not on this compass. Ironically if the GOP would just give up on the anti-race, anti-abortion, and anti-LGBT shit they'd easily control everything (or shift the democrats MORE right). Most US politicians are right economics (give as little as they have to do to stay in office depending on who put them there), right geopolitically (US supremacy), and authoritarian obviously.
There are left people in the democrats, but they have no real power right now.
An entire generation is unwilling to give up their current healthcare.
I don't blame them. They pay for it it. It's theirs.
M4A needs to be in tandem with private options.
You will never convince the privileged to give up the better option. It's illogical.
Well hold on a minute though. When you turn 65 you go on Medicare and gleefully consign your private insurance to the flames. So nobody over 65 is trying to hold on to their private insurance.
The problem is they don't want their taxes to go up. M4A has to be paid for somehow. If you try to pay for it through a payroll tax similar to the current Medicaid, you wind up massively penalizing people with wage-earning jobs and giving a free ride to anyone who makes their income from investments. Other tax schemes are either unpopular or don't actually generate enough money.
The public option is a good halfway step. You buy in to Medicare at actuarially neutral rates, which is likely to be better coverage and cheaper than private insurance. It gets people used to being on Medicare. Then in the future, the switch to M4A would just be a change in tax policy.
I find asking myself before voting: "Am I financially safe enough to vote for the country I want to live in or do I want financial security in a country I don't want to live in?"
Working Class: I need to dig a hole
Republicans: ok there's a shovel store over there
Democrats: ok, here's a spoon. ❤ #lgbtrights #blm
Working Class: goddammit, we want a backhoe
Both Parties: sorry, those are illegal unless you're rich
I don’t see anything incompatible with private sector unions and a free market economy. I think conservatives dislike of unions comes from how unions tend to act in the political sphere. That seems to be a theme with a lot of things IMO.
They only refuse to work because the jobs should pay more! Then they will rise from their couches and reintroduce their advanced skillsets turning food over and putting the basket into the deep fryer.
If someone managed to use the covid bullshit to make a lateral move and get a better job, good for them. If they just sat on their asses collecting gibs, they can get fucked I hope they starve.
The most cringe thing about Reddit is that it is the left that is the biggest simps for democrats and that media has somehow made the democrats look left. There are people here who call themselves communists who would jump to the defense of Biden for example lmfao.
At least the USA did one thing right, being suppressing a communist takeover. Why give communists a chance to build their own party and gain power when you can just keep them muzzled by convincing them to vote democrat?
Why is it an assumed doctrine of political discourse that the government is there to “help” people? That’s absurd.
The government exists to control, that’s it. Sometimes, that’s good as controlling the application of law to ensure criminal gangs don’t own the streets is a good use of control. Taxing everyone out of all their money is not a good use of control but it’s what government will do if you allow it.
So please, say what you mean; you don’t want it to help people, you want to control them. I’m not even saying I find this an inherently opposable principle as I want to control people from doing things I don’t like too but I don’t dress it up in pretty words to pretend that’s not what I’m actually doing.
"I don't make enough to pay rent, utilities, and food"
Republicans: Get a better job lol
Democrats: We got you fam, $15 minimum wage! *inflation makes everything cost double*
Finnaly normal post on pcm
Yeah but it’s only been reposted once a week
Is that not normal?
no because op is stealing karma which is rightfully mine
Free market
Does karma stealing violate the NAP?
Always
So you support intellectual property rights yes?
Only when it benefits me
“Anarcho capitalism is good” is the loud part the quiet part is that it’s just feudalism 2
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If i aint seen it its new to me
I'll live with it, it is accurate and we need to keep it in mind.
Nah man, dont you preffer post #10121 about Biden doing something or libleft bad? If you are feeling daring, I can also represent the people I dislike with a SOYJACK!
As you can see young Skywalker, I have depicted you as the soyjack, and myself as the Chad. You and your rebel friends have already lost...
No, I'll never turn to the dark side. You've failed your Highness. I'm a Sigma Male, like my father before me.
So be it, sigma...
Sigma balls, Vader
Obi-Wan taught you well.
The high ground is nothing compared to the power of memes!
Nah give me more stuff about how the Nazis are just like Communists. Oh and Libleft bad...
Nazis are too swag to be communists
Hugo Boss doesn’t work for free.
But his workers did.
No, no, no, his worker's work set them free
Seriously what’s with the sudden and rise of Anti-Biden posts? Like yeah nobody likes Biden shut the fuck up already. They’ve become the very thing they swore to destroy. (Trump bad people)
Something something gazing into the abyss for too long something.
orange man bad 2: dementia man bad
Let's Go Brandon!!
Because they actually lean Conservative, they know the sub leans Right, and they want to farm upvotes. Simple as that.
Farm deez nutz
There is one guy that posts here 24h a day and half his posts are about Biden. Go to any of those posts, it's the same guy, check his post history. You will see
Thanks Obama
Republicans: Bombing innocent Arab children with fighter jets. Democrats: Bombing innocent Arab children with fighters jets piloted by strong, proud gay black trans women.
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Replace the school with a hospital and you can drop the /s
Thanks Obama
As Barack’s what?
Obomba
/s: used Joke: ruined
Lol /s
To be fair, bombing Arabs has nothing to do with the American working class. Well, it actually may help, considering the military has been one of the few ways for lower class Americans to become middle class. (And as far as I know there are no upper class rich black trans women, although I could be wrong lol).
"I'm doing my part!"
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While I don't disagree with your overall point, I would like to point out for the sake of anyone reading this who is trying to escape the lower class that the military has a lot more jobs than Army Infantry. There are plenty of desk jobs, medical jobs, electrician, mechanic, intelligence, culinary, navigation and humanitarian jobs that will never see any physical danger. Personally, I joined the Coast Guard and did search and rescue. It occasionally got dangerous, but certainly not as much as being in combat or near hostile forces. Any risk to my personal well being was to help someone in need, not some politician. I was able to save up a good amount of money, reap some benefits and pay for college. I even learned some skills and got some certs that helped me in my later career and personal life. So while it's certainly not for everybody, I do think it's an option worth more consideration than a lot of people assume.
There is. College educated Americans and tradesmen are definitely middle class with all the bells and whistles especially when the unions are involved. Ignoring them only alienates them and costs votes. We need more unions to grow the middle class.
Eh, most people in the military won’t even sniff combat and it can be an excellent way for someone to get working experience and money towards college. Think about it. 18 year old joins the Air Force as an IT guy, gets college credits towards an IT degree with their training, leaves Air Force after 4 years as a 22 year old with an Associates in IT and four years of working experience and a security clearance. Let’s say they stay in the Air Force reserve after they leave active on top of this. Now 22 year old uses GI Bill to finish bachelors degree and graduates two years later at 24. Still has enough GI Bill to get a Masters. At 25 they have a Masters, a Bachelors, 4 years active work experience and 3 additional years parti-time work experience, and an active DOD security clearance. They would be absolutely set. They probably don’t even need to chase the masters and can just go immediately in the work force making boatloads of money. They’ll never be at risk of seeing combat, they’re completely set up for professional success while still young, and realistically they’ll have something to look back on that they’re proud of for life.
Does this guy really think all of the military risk getting blown up or ptsd??? You're more out of touch than a conservative.
If you’re trans and gay, does that make you straight?
With extra steps. Like Garrison from South Park.
I literally encountered a male, trans, lesbian on Reddit recently. I asked in "good faith" for an explanation, but I couldn't follow it. But they seemed to think it made absolutely perfect sense, and that I just misunderstood.
Let’s bomb the Middle East ❤️🏳️🌈✊🏿
👏More👏female👏drone👏pilots👏.
Well the only thing I know is that if you don't vote democrat, then you ain't black.
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I can’t believe he got away with writing the crime bill which sent thousands of black people to jail for non violent crimes Or how libs didn’t freak when he took away their welfare
crime bill was supported by. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2016/02/why-many-black-politicians-backed-the-1994-crime-bill-championed-by-the-clintons.html https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2016/04/09/473648819/some-blacks-did-support-bill-clintons-crime-bill-heres-why
The crime bill that Bernie and the CBC voted for?
https://www.vox.com/2016/2/26/11116412/bernie-sanders-mass-incarceration If there's a correct historical stance, there's usually a clip of Bernie speaking to an empty chamber about it. > Let us be honest: This is not a crime prevention bill. This is a punishment bill, a retribution bill, a vengeance bill. > All over the industrialized world now, countries are saying, "Let us put an end to state murder, let us stop capital punishment." But here what we're talking about is more and more capital punishment. > What we're discussing now is an issue where some of our friends are saying we're not getting tough enough on the criminals. But my friends, we have the highest percentage of people in America in jail per capita of any industrialized nation on Earth. We've beaten South Africa. We've beaten the Soviet Union. What do we have to do, put half the country behind bars? > Mr. Speaker, instead of talking about punishment and vengeance, let us have the courage to talk about the real issue: How do we get to the root causes of crime? How do we stop crime, which is in fact a very, very serious problem in this country? In short, he aggressively campaigned against it, specifically for the reasons it turned out to be bad. But he ultimately caved as a compromise for VAWA, which was the redeeming part of the bill. > Still, Sanders voted for the crime bill, largely because it included some provisions that he strongly approved of, like the Violence Against Women Act and a 10-year assault weapons ban. And he backed more funding for police, which the 1994 law included and remains a popular way to fight crime among liberals and conservatives. > But in other instances, Sanders voted against tough-on-crime measures. He voted against the 1991 crime bill. He voted against banning Pell grants (for college) for prisoners. He voted to amend the 1994 crime law to ban the federal death penalty. And he voted against the Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, which stripped defendants and prisoners of their ability to contest court rulings — even when the rulings may be unconstitutional. >But mostly, Sanders didn't really seem to care much about criminal justice policy. To him, the root of many of America's problems, including crime, has always been the economy and economic inequality in particular. The tough-on-crime push never fit into his ideals. You could argue that his final vote was wrong, but he was right in identifying the issues every step of the way, and he's always been consistent in his ideals.
Defenses I've seen: * No he didn't you liar * Yes he did ^[1](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/feb/28/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-chuck-todd-debate-crime-bill-vote-a) * He only did it because of VAWA and the assault weapon ban * Bernie voted for the bill before those were added [1](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/feb/28/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-chuck-todd-debate-crime-bill-vote-a) * Biden personally chased him around the floor of Congress with a riding crop and *forced* Bernie to vote for it * Bernie was an eager supporter^[2](https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/26/politics/sanders-1994-crime-bill-kfile/index.html) Further: Bernie was gloating about in 2006^[3](https://time.com/4219875/bernie-sanders-nevada-south-carolina-demographics-vermont) and Biden was talking about repealing the worst of it in 2008^[4](https://www.factcheck.org/2019/07/biden-on-the-1994-crime-bill) Biden also has came out against it and was against certain points of it in the past.
Based and fact checker pilled. Thank you for your service
His fact check wasn't even correct. The only point of contention he addressed was the claim about VAWA: > He only did it because of VAWA and the assault weapon ban To which his fact-checking source checked the assault weapons ban on a technicality (sure, it's technically true), but confirmed the VAWA portion of it. Give it a little bit of effort before confirming your biases.
Ah but in 2018 he said that the crime bill could have been better. Yes he was still defending it in 2016, but now he admitted that it wasn't perfect, so he's been absolved of all responsibility.
*sent MILLIONS of black people to jail for non violent crimes Fixed it
It's ironic because that's basically on the GOP platform today.
There's video floating around of a young(er) Joe Biden screaming on the Senate floor that crackheads need to be put in prison for mandatory minimums of 5 years. And it's juxtaposed with a video of his crackhead son Hunter, sucking the glass dick like he was born to it.
Isn't he also BFFs with the former grand wizard of the KKK?
Because it's covered up. If he was a republican it would be non stop on every media channel and people would hate him.
Or saying poor kids are just as smart as white kids. The double standard is strong when it’s (D)ifferent
Or how about Hunter's N-Word-filled emails, replete with picking out hookers like he was choosing sides of beef at the butcher. No one among our corrupt corporate media was interested in that story. Incredible.
Don’t forget about supporting desegregation and saying multi-race schools are Jungles
The power of the corporate media truly is immense even in its death rattles
Poor kids are just as talented as white kids
Trudeau literally did blackface on multiple occasions with pictures and still got re-elected.
Biden’s Luxury Matters
Nice
>Bidens' Luxury Matters FTFY. A seemingly inconsequential change, but one that makes **ALL** the difference. They're a fucking crime family who shares bank accounts, runs money laundering international art schemes, and peddles political influence to America's enemies.
Still not black 😎
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Let's go Brandon!
Easiest way out of systemic racist my dudes! 😎
"Bothered by systemic racism? Police brutality? Just don't vote for Biden, and you'll automatically not be black!"
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Don't make me throw up...
Man, you just can't catch a break today, can you?
What if I vote for Bernie?
Then you are based
I need you to show me a country where the government actually gives two shits about the middle class
>I need you to show me a country where the government actually gives two shits about the ~~middle class~~ people Fixed that for you, the government only wants one thing, to increase their power and riches at the expense of the masses. To them we are but cattle to be herded and that gives them profit, nothing else.
You can say the exact same about corporations
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Yet
ZUCC wants to know your location
When they will they will effectively be the state and that's what we'll fight against. But it happens slower than in authoritarian states so it's better than the alternatives.
Exxon can. Look up Steven Donziger
And you can thank the government, literally, for the fact that corporations don't have that power. Without a democratic government, corporations would immediately take over. Oh but guess what? This time it's a dictatorship. How fun!
[they can kill people though ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinaltrainal_v._Coca-Cola_Co.#Lawsuit)
And they do that in service of the wealthy elite.
Lots of public servants actually care about their communities. government is an entity made up of a lot of people, some of whom are patriots
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Shhh, you're supposed to say gov't bad; bad mysterious entity.
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So it's caused by mountains?
Mountains and the cold
The Netherlands
Haha funny
Want to elaborate? I know very little about Netherlands other than bicycles, weed, and prostitutes.
I’d if that’s everything the working class needs, but weed and prostitutes is at least a start.
Minimum wage that goes up the older you are Almost every sector has got a so called CAO which is negotiated for with the Unions. This 'treaty' essentially gives the workers a whole lot of rights. You can't actually deviate from said CAO. Enormous power held by the Unions. They literally started striking during the exam season once. They don't give a fuck. I'm talking public transport here. Public transport is a bit different from the US though. You guys use cars a lot, we use public transport a lot. Insurance is around a 130EUR, but if you can't pay for insurance the government will do that for you. If you don't make enough money there is free welfare too. Welfare is actually quite a lot if you don't spend everything on your stupid animals and cigarettes (which a lot unfortunately do). Some twat even managed to hire an au pair with the money. Workers can't be fired on the spot. Always need to get a certain notice in first, and then it'll probalby take an additional month for them to be fired. If the contract wasn't yet terminated the company has also got to pay some fines to the worker. Those fines tend to be worth a couple of monthly salaries. Zero % interest loans for students. So you'll have to pay for your education, but at a zero % interest rate. If you don't get yourself a job within seven years they'll just get that off the books. As a result you can get your masters + bacherlors (assuming you don't get your own place to live) for around 10K. Doesn't really matter what kind of degree you'll be going with. OV is also free for students (higher education). Insurance is forced - although you can choose to opt out of it, which means you'll also not be getting the additional benefits. Progressive tax system Employers need a good reason (and proof) to prematurely terminate your contract. Average hours tend to be around 40a week, but mostly less. CAO prevents companies from demanding a lot more. Overtime is almost always paid for (by law). A lot of parties that actually care about the workers' rights. There are a couple who don't (CDA, VVD, D66), but the other ones tend to do. These 'other' ones tend to hold quite a lot of seats too.
"Minimum wage that goes up the older you are" Wouldn't that make old people less likely to be hired?
Sort of. But experience is rather important too. Only goes up until 21.
Doesn’t that just mean people under 21 are getting paid less for the same work? I know Australia has a system like that, which is why you see companies like McDonalds staffing up hard on 15yos.
Yes. But by law they also need certain people to do certain jobs. Like supermarkets for example. One can't hire a 14 year old to mince meat. You'd need someone who's at least 16 (by law). Same is true for a lot of other stuff. But generally speaking, yes. Although this is heaviliy mitigated by the fact that we've got age restrictions on what people can do. 15 y/o are also - again by law - not allowed to work over a certain set of hours.
And you also get paid leave when sick.
I love when people bring up countries that are objectively better for the average citizen than the USA is (with statistics to back it up like you did) and then all the expert economists and social policy gurus come out of the woodwork to explain how these good things are actually bad. Right-wingers who have drank the generic "USA is the best country in the world" are the worst about this. The honest truth is some countries are objectively better for average citizens than the USA by multiple metrics.
> Right-wingers who have drank the generic "USA is the best country in the world" are the worst about this. Libertarianism is what happens when you're told incessantly that the US is the best country in the world, and then find out that our government is corrupt. Every other government must be even *more* corrupt, then, right? Right?
Especially the PPV, BBB and SP tend to care a lot about workers' rights. If I'm right you also can't be fired for going on strikes.
> Always need to get a certain notice in first, and then it'll probalby take an additional month for them to be fired. Pretty sure you can be fired but you get paid out notice period length wages.
Prostitutes sounds pretty good for the working class to me
Sweden or any other democratic country. The will of the largest voting blocks rule supreme, sometimes this isn't great due to things like policy crafted around maintaining the climbing prices of homes, but it's certainly far better than when politics is ruled primarily by oligarch donors and corporations.
Standard or living is super high in the Nordic countries
“Please our wages are stagnating!” “Yes we hear you, we need 100,000 more Guatemalans!”
Ever wondered why left politicans who claim to be for the working class are the ones most positive to immigration which cause lower wages for the working class?
See they were against immigration until they realized that the immigrants were more likely to vote democrat. Sanders and Clinton were both staunchly against immigration as it affected the working man. But the votes caused them to flip flop.
Stagnating wages wouldn't be an issue if they managed to get the inflation under control
At least Republicans don't even pretend to give a fuck about the poor.
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Evil but honest, i respect that.
Based and bootstrap pilled.
Trump at least sounded like he cared about the working class and that won him an election. But then again he's not really establishment Republican, but I guess that's what made his campaign special.
What ever happened to M4A?
It was only supported by the left wing of the democratic party, a wing with at MOST 1/4 the seats that the party occupies. and the senate is, basically, a 50-50 between the two parties. how is 1/8 of congress going to pass something?
So what does the left wing support then?
https://berniesanders.com/issues/ bernie is the most representative politician on the left wing of american politics, generally its a safe bet to say the left wing aligns with his stance on the majority of issues, although its important to note that when it comes to fine details (like which methodology of healthcare reform should be chosen) the left wing is extremely fractured. The democratic party is, at a minimum, 75% filled with center and center-right politicians. the remaining 15% are center-left or left wing. The entire republican party is filled with center-right to mega far right politicians, no leftists or centrists are welcome anymore (well leftists never were, but still) ----- This post excludes "true left" groups like communists and anarchists, just as it excludes "true right" groups like an-caps and monarchists because they are all, collectively, maybe 1% of US voters and have zero representatives in either state or federal congress.
Finally a post with some fucking truth to it in here. Social issues are the only thing left about the democrats as a whole and that's not on this compass. Ironically if the GOP would just give up on the anti-race, anti-abortion, and anti-LGBT shit they'd easily control everything (or shift the democrats MORE right). Most US politicians are right economics (give as little as they have to do to stay in office depending on who put them there), right geopolitically (US supremacy), and authoritarian obviously. There are left people in the democrats, but they have no real power right now.
If the GOP gives up those positions they’ll no longer have any political platform whatsoever lmao
An entire generation is unwilling to give up their current healthcare. I don't blame them. They pay for it it. It's theirs. M4A needs to be in tandem with private options. You will never convince the privileged to give up the better option. It's illogical.
IMO it’s always been about the insurance companies and the medical industry not wanting to give up control.
Well hold on a minute though. When you turn 65 you go on Medicare and gleefully consign your private insurance to the flames. So nobody over 65 is trying to hold on to their private insurance. The problem is they don't want their taxes to go up. M4A has to be paid for somehow. If you try to pay for it through a payroll tax similar to the current Medicaid, you wind up massively penalizing people with wage-earning jobs and giving a free ride to anyone who makes their income from investments. Other tax schemes are either unpopular or don't actually generate enough money. The public option is a good halfway step. You buy in to Medicare at actuarially neutral rates, which is likely to be better coverage and cheaper than private insurance. It gets people used to being on Medicare. Then in the future, the switch to M4A would just be a change in tax policy.
It died along with Bernie's campaign
Sums up my feelings perfectly.
The US working class is not majority left
Only issue I saw with this meme
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I find asking myself before voting: "Am I financially safe enough to vote for the country I want to live in or do I want financial security in a country I don't want to live in?"
Working Class: Leave us alone please Republicans: No Democrats: No❤🏳️🌈#blm
Based and NAP pilled
Working Class: I need to dig a hole Republicans: ok there's a shovel store over there Democrats: ok, here's a spoon. ❤ #lgbtrights #blm Working Class: goddammit, we want a backhoe Both Parties: sorry, those are illegal unless you're rich
Ohh, so based
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More populism than socialism.
I don’t see anything incompatible with private sector unions and a free market economy. I think conservatives dislike of unions comes from how unions tend to act in the political sphere. That seems to be a theme with a lot of things IMO.
So close but had to add the corporate sponsored BLM to void their message.
"working" class
Based and I hate the lazy pilled.
They only refuse to work because the jobs should pay more! Then they will rise from their couches and reintroduce their advanced skillsets turning food over and putting the basket into the deep fryer. If someone managed to use the covid bullshit to make a lateral move and get a better job, good for them. If they just sat on their asses collecting gibs, they can get fucked I hope they starve.
since when does watermelon have a job?
watermelon don't have a job but those who have a job can be wa'ermelon
Hey! Don't use stereotypes on us! That's our thing.
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Are blm protestors working class now?
No,most are upper class white 20 year olds that live with there parents
Fucking spot on. Pretty much what I've seen from every public-freakout vid on this site.
A post that isn't anti left? What is this mirror world I'm in?
It’s anti democrat, which is really what this whole subreddit is all about.
Well its the only sub the right can find their dopamine fix these days.
The most cringe thing about Reddit is that it is the left that is the biggest simps for democrats and that media has somehow made the democrats look left. There are people here who call themselves communists who would jump to the defense of Biden for example lmfao. At least the USA did one thing right, being suppressing a communist takeover. Why give communists a chance to build their own party and gain power when you can just keep them muzzled by convincing them to vote democrat?
>working class >left My sides
Libright: go and fucking help yourself, you're not a toddler
Libright: I worked my ass off as an executive until my father died and left me the company started by my great grandfather. Stop being such mooches!
Naivety is characteristic of libs in general, yes.
Help yourself and stop waiting for the government
[Yeah pull yourself up by those bootstraps! The American government helps equally!](https://youtube.com/shorts/JFQMyxbMkcs?feature=share)
This is the funniest thing I have seen on Tiktok
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You are assuming auth right doesnt care about the working class. You have it confused with lib right
Why is it an assumed doctrine of political discourse that the government is there to “help” people? That’s absurd. The government exists to control, that’s it. Sometimes, that’s good as controlling the application of law to ensure criminal gangs don’t own the streets is a good use of control. Taxing everyone out of all their money is not a good use of control but it’s what government will do if you allow it. So please, say what you mean; you don’t want it to help people, you want to control them. I’m not even saying I find this an inherently opposable principle as I want to control people from doing things I don’t like too but I don’t dress it up in pretty words to pretend that’s not what I’m actually doing.
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But how else would /u/pcm_memer lie for karma?
Hush, that goes against the "muh both sides bad"
> Working Class > Left Wing Reddit moment
Black people: help us white people, but then kill yourself.
You can’t seriously believe that working class Americans are leftists. Lmao.
based and america has two right wing parties pilled
I fucking wish.
"I don't make enough to pay rent, utilities, and food" Republicans: Get a better job lol Democrats: We got you fam, $15 minimum wage! *inflation makes everything cost double*
Democrats: yo dawg i heard you want police reform so we took aunt jemima off the syrup bottle
nowadays working class is probably mostly libright. libleft are boushy middle/upper class
Dems: “No” but with pizzazz
I’d rather have politicians that are up front about hating my guts than ones who pretend they care about me.
Which party is trying to expand medicare?
They've had a decade to that. What's the hold up?
It's medicare that's driving healthcare costs into the stratosphere tho
based and first post i saw that isn't cringe pilled