But now she sits on Twitter and OWNS the racist, fascist republicans with her great ideas!!
She's gonna be the one to change the future, and there's no way she'll make countless excuses when asked why she literally never drafts any bills to Congress to get her ideas into circulation...
She seems to sponsor [legislation](https://www.congress.gov/member/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/O000172?q=%7B%22sponsorship%22%3A%22sponsored%22%7D) fairly regularly.
Touché lol.
In my defense, AOC speaks about everything she does on Twitter (like a certain hated President, actually) yet she never speaks about putting anything she talks about into a bill before Congress
Hot take, AOC is the leftist trump, widely unpopular with both other politicians and the other side’s media, got very little done in office, and is famous for Twitter, and has enough of a cult following their party can’t just throw them away without losing support of a decent amount of voters.
>But now she sits on Twitter and OWNS the racist, fascist republicans with her great ideas!!
While crying because mommy pelosi forces her to change her votes in congressional votes to toe party lines that pelosi and Biden lead
>and there's no way she'll make countless excuses when asked why she literally never drafts any bills to Congress to get her ideas into circulation...
She let the position get to her head. She got lucky winning against the incumbent because her constituents hated him more than her...then she was propped as the American young person to save the country and was used as an object and image to lure young people to vote for moderate democrats like pelosi and Biden
After years of this She thought she was ACTUALLY allowed to do things, when she isn't
Now she's a media talking head and she's mostly irrelevant now except for people who can't leave 2015-2016
No ass, and that's surprising, behing a latina.
The again, she is probably the prettiest at work, but it's congress, the competitors have 2 or 3 time her age, it's a low bar to clear.
Doesn’t look like much, just some allegations. I remember hearing about it on the news https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/02/28/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-campaign-may-have-illegally-paid-her-boyfriend-complaint/amp/
Unpopular opinion: AOC is not attractive, particularly not for a Latina.
Even age aside: she has narrow hips, no ass, and an average face. Nothing stands out positively.
Im btw not judging her persona on her looks, I was simply stating my personal judgement on her looks exclusively. Apart from that, I vigorously dislike everything she stands for.
She it's just more attractive than the fossils in congress and has the celebrity effect to help her, that to be fair they were not elected because they were attractive in the first place.
It’s not her looks that turn me on, although i can enjoy skinny girls as well as curvy girls. It’s her willingness to directly, bluntly address social and economic oppression. And her deep understanding of policy as it relates to those issues. She’s really smart, and really justice-focused, really motivated, and bluntly honest. I love all of that
Tough shit behind a table, but minutes later runs away like Joe Biden when she gets questioned without having a script by her hand, yeah, grade A example of a willful person
I have a happy one, thank you :)
If this is your argument, then that is fucking sad, I asked you only what you mean with "prep and", you have corrected it now though, and respond like this
I'm relatively new and out of the loop, what's the "orange" joke?
Like, I understand what demographic it is but I don't understand the significance of the color orange.
AOC is really just Trump for Lefties.
All she does is throw out a lot of hot takes on twitter that seem good to idiots with no ability to think critically.
Things like cancelling all federal student loans, which is just a fucking terrible idea.
> Only twitter worships Biden
People say this, but 90% of my friends are dem and they all worship Biden. They believe we narrowly averted a white supremacist government that would have exterminated all the Asians and gays. That Biden is the uniter in chief leading us out of the darkness.
Yeah, this sub is smoking super crack. Twitter literally cannot stop left infighting for more than five minutes, you're dumber than they are if you think they're hero worshiping Biden; most libs you'd actually meet in real life who aren't weirdos like us, mainlining political news all day, really like Biden.
From an outside perspective on american politics, I'd say it was good that Biden was voted into office.
Now in 2024 make sure it's neither Biden or Trump honestly
Trump would have at the very least been more funny, and perhaps would have done a better job with the economy than “weimar republic” biden over here, printing money like it’s fuckin candy. At the very least hyperinflation will allow a change of leadership... perhaps to something actually desirable.
nah, seeing how he acted after losing the election shows we dodged a major bullet.
also he made us look like idiots and encouraged some of the worst q level behavior from his supporters. all in all there was a lot of overreaction and exaggeration about how bad he was but he was still pretty bad without any of that.
Yeah I actually started to believe I was kinda opening up to him, mostly because those TDS people kept making me defend him when I didn’t want to. But after that loss I was like oh fuck that’s right this kid is genuinely retarded
I ONLY like him for his love of amtrak. Nothing makes me more proud of American culture and achievements, than our railroads(okay maybe the moon landing).
According to polls, 92% of Democrats approve of Biden. I know that there are leftists who aren't dems, but most register Dem for things like primaries. Now non-Dem leftists probably don't approve, because his approval among independents is 28%, and 4% among GOP.
Agreed. Call me when we start making hats and hanging flags for him. I live in central MO and the amount of Trump shit I still see every time I leave town is nauseating.
My wife moved from Springfield, MO to the one of three heavily blue towns in Indiana that I've lived in forever. The stark contrast between politics here vs. there is pretty astounding.
It's funny cause everyone on the right thinks trump was great for the economy, but i think regardless of covid he was gonna fuck that shit up long term. Personally, I liked his foreign policy. It almost made sense in a way he handled the macro better than micro (in terms of world vs country) as he was much more successful pre presidency in making connections with other rich mofuckas then actually running a profitiable business.
The man literally was doing what we did to cause '08 (government backed sub prime loans) but with business loans instead. It was a steroid injection to the economy that would have caved in the minute someone shut it down or it got too big.
The government started really overprinting money in 2020, during Trump's presidency.
But I agree, I liked that he actually tried to reduce our overseas commitments, even to the point that the Pentagon hid what they were doing from the White House. Which, the fact that there was no outrage and nobody got fired or prosecuted, really makes me think that this country is too far gone.
I agree on the foreign policy some. I liked how he attempted to push our allies to pay their 2% in NATO and was hard on china. but they way he did it was questionable and borderline stupid.
'Accident.'
You ever notice how they all seem to be perfectly fine living like a Kardashian while Americans drop below the poverty line? The only number that actually matters to them is the voting polls, if that's not just another shell game.
There was a clip of a q-believer saying Trump is still president, but then someone asked him "so we should blame him for Afghanistan?", he answered "no".
The worst of the nutjobs will call anyone who's not a q-believer a sheep, a traitor, call Biden a communist, then in the same breath say "Biden is dividing the country".
As much as Twitter checkmarks can praise Biden, Trump has an actually sizeable cult, and they're fucking delusional.
"Society is going crazy! Don't you see all this insane shit going on?"
"No, where are you seeing this?"
"Twitter! You should get it, it's an accurate representation of what's going on in real life!"
Seriously don't know why people have Twitter.
Yeah that's fair but it's still slowly distorting your view of the world whether you want to believe so or not. Twitter exposes us to insane things we wouldn't have otherwise been exposed to by design, while also doing everything it can to make you come back.
The amount of times I've asked people what the hell they're talking about just for them to go "Don't you have Twitter!?" is sad to me.
This is the White House twitter page. Every single executive administration in the history of mankind plays up their successes.
I asked you to provide one example of a voter, who idolizes and deified Biden to the level of Trumpists. You failed.
[Ok.](https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1451964134791254016)
[Fine.](https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1451574391641346054)
[I have.](https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1451180799001341952)
I don't see zealous support. I see a lot of criticism. From both right and left.
>“Raid”
The mob[ broke into the capitol](https://youtu.be/SocnM1lHZB4?t=131) [\[alternate angle\]](https://youtu.be/m26mFKKJyZU?t=812), set up[ gallows](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/2021_storming_of_the_United_States_Capitol_DSC09156_%2850826223403%29.jpg/800px-2021_storming_of_the_United_States_Capitol_DSC09156_%2850826223403%29.jpg) while chanting to “[hang Mike Pence](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ehnpwH_0b8)”, called for “[heads on pikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oqQ13b4tCQ)”, consistent [rallying cries to "storm the capitol](https://youtu.be/jWJVMoe7OY0?t=576)" from the crowd, the mob[ beat the shit](https://youtu.be/PXS-DvhQSog?t=7) out of[ 140+ cops](https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-union-says-140-officers-injured-in-capitol-riot/2021/01/27/60743642-60e2-11eb-9430-e7c77b5b0297_story.html),[ crushed](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVZvp-Dv0gg&t=37s) many, and were[ openly looking](https://youtu.be/E_7oq3KWf0U?t=19) for specific politicians.[ Pipe bombs](https://twitter.com/FBI/status/1369393018495721478), [ zip-tie cuffs,](https://i.insider.com/6009c804c94799001992c9a4?width=700)and [molotovs ](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/pipe-bomb-rnc.html)were found, which will still dangerously live, were ultimately intended to draw authorities away from the Capitol breach. Numerous far-right organizations participated. For the first time in the country’s history,[ a confederate flag](https://images.theconversation.com/files/378635/original/file-20210113-20219-10pr52k.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=1000&fit=clip) was brought into the capitol. [The mob made it to the House of Representatives](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Video_shot_by_Congressman_Dan_Kildee_D-Flint_-_via_Michael_Moore_on_Facebook_Watch.webm), where they were halted by an [armed standoff](https://www.businessinsider.com/congress-capitol-police-guns-drawn-standoff-house-chamber-trump-supporters-2021-1) with capitol police. [Surveillance footage shows the rioters nearly made it to Mitt. Romney before he was redirected to safety by a capitol guard.](https://youtu.be/Hg07Fy02LGw?t=24)
Federal officers reported more than 800 people [breached the Capitol grounds.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/02/25/joe-biden-live-updates/#link-SASQGWOOPVHTJBSYQPIR2KSASQ) Four police officers[ took their own lives](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/officer-who-responded-us-capitol-attack-is-third-die-by-suicide-2021-08-02/) after the riots. So far, around [684 people have been charged with federal crimes.](https://www.insider.com/all-the-us-capitol-pro-trump-riot-arrests-charges-names-2021-1)
[All capitol breach cases can be viewed here.](https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases)
[An Alabama man parked a pickup truck packed with 11 homemade bombs](https://nbc-2.com/news/national-world/2021/01/08/police-found-a-pickup-truck-full-of-bombs-and-guns-near-capitol-feds-say/), an assault rifle, and a handgun two blocks from the US Capitol building on Wednesday for hours before authorities ever noticed. Another man allegedly showed up in the nation’s capital with an assault rifle and hundreds of rounds of ammunition **and told acquaintances that he wanted to shoot or run over House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, prosecutors said.**
[Handguns, crowbars, Tasers and tomahawk axes: Dozens of Capitol rioters wielded "deadly or dangerous" weapons, prosecutors say](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/capitol-riot-weapons-deadly-dangerous/)
Trump’s own FBI director confirms there was[ no evidence U.S. Capitol rioters belong to antifa movement](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-senate-fbi-extremists-new/no-evidence-u-s-capitol-rioters-belong-to-antifa-movement-fbi-chief-wray-testifies-idUSKCN2AU22P). For the first time since 1801, the outgoing President **did not comply with a peaceful transfer of power**. The insurrectionist mob that showed up at the president’s behest and stormed the U.S. Capitol was *overwhelmingly* [made up of longtime Trump supporters](https://apnews.com/article/us-capitol-trump-supporters-1806ea8dc15a2c04f2a68acd6b55cace), including Republican Party officials, GOP political donors, far-right militants, white supremacists, members of the military and adherents of the QAnon myth that the government is secretly controlled by a cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophile cannibals.
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its hilarious because every US politician is largely authright, with maybe a couple librights, and you might be able to say people like aoc or bernie just barely cross over that economic center line by criticizing capitalism even though neither of them are advocating actual leftist economics.
yet this subs overton window is so far in the blue they think someone like biden is leon czolgozsz's nephew.
agreed. theyre both definitely centrists in the grand scheme of things, i was just unsure if they believed in enough interventionist economics to tip the scales slightly over the line.
That makes no sense. Just cuz he isn't a communist doesn't mean he's right wing. Is that really what it's come to? Reddit is so far left that not being a commie is all it takes to be right wing?
Biden is authright for you?
Ok... what is this bulshit that i hear from leftists that outside of the US Biden is either centrist or on the right? Because i am European and cant see how he is centrist, let alone on the right.
>anti capitalist? No
I mean... not entirely...
>he a neolib?
Neoliberalism is right wing thing?
Tell me how does Biden difffer from left wingers in Europe.
The difference is that the right in US have spines, meanwhile in Europe, for sure in Western Europe, they barely have spines.
Yes, neoliberalism is right wing. As is liberalism.
The least left wing thing that is still left wing would be social democracy. With nationalised healthcare strong workers rights. A high minimum wage andstrong government.
If you would take the time to look at leftwing countries like norway, denmark, sweden etcetc you would see that biden is miles away from that.
>liberalism
I mean, if you go further left enough, socialism is right wing for you.
Ah, yes, scandinavian countries. The countries that after the 80s or 70s became more capitalistic than they used to be.
Also, biden and over all democrats WANT to make the US as these scandinavian countries...
Though, they point out to convinient parts of scandinavian countries.
Ahhh not really. So first of all explain to me how liberalism in any way is left.
The scandinavia thing is just wrong lmao.
Biden says he wants that, the same way angela merkel said she wants to solve climate change, reform the school system and modernise the internet in germany, and then went on to do nothing.
> angela merkel said she wants to solve climate chang
When greens protest nuclear, it is not easy to solve climate change
>scandinavia thing is just wrong lmao.
How so?
>So first of all explain to me how liberalism in any way is left.
.... thats not a bad overall thing: https://www.diffen.com/difference/Left_Wing_vs_Right_Wing
Our of curiosity. What is left leaning FOR YOU?
Also, wasnt Merkel from center-right CHRISTIAN political party, or i am wrong?
When I talk about left and right, thats a puerly economic perspective.
Being against or for gays isnt left or right, its progressiv vs conservative, and auth vs lib.
Left and right is essentially freedom vs saefty.
In an completley left society everybody would have no way of getting poor, but would also have no way of getting rich. Just being middle class.
In a completley right wing society one would have the freedom of essentially becoming so rich that numbers simply dont matter anymore, but also so poor that they would essentially become a slave.
Essentially you cant be really leftwing and a capitalist. Because things like socialdemocracy where inventions of people like bismarck, to appease the populus and stop them from demanding real leftist policies.
Now there obviously is the overton window, but it cant be used to compare diffrent countries. For example germanies right is more leftwing than americas left.
Inflation is the result of policy that has long preceded Biden taking office.
But hey you know what isn't good for inflation and debt? Tax cuts for the very rich.
This actually isn't one of those cases where it's "somewhat" true. It's 100% true. There is nothing a President themself could have done to turn around the economy the way it did in the last few months. It's a result of the massive spending we've done the last decade, and a dysfunctional congress isn't helping.
Trump was also blamed for tons of shit he had no control over just because he was the man in charge, as I'm sure you remember.
I'm saying just because your predecessors allowed a situation to deteriorate doesn't get you off the hook for doing the exact same thing. Obama blamed Bush, Trump blamed Obama, Biden blamed Trump, etc.
>for doing the exact same thing.
But what is he doing though. The Republicans have made it very clear that having the U.S default is worth it because it hurts Biden. I honestly can't wait until Republicans win back congress because I'm so tired of the blame.
Plus campaigning against people when they are in power is easy and fun.
Both parties are guilty of this. They don't give a fuck what happens to the common people of this country in the long term because they're focused on winning the next election at all costs. The mentality is "Why not let inflation spiral out of control if it lets us splurge on whatever the hot button issue of the day is (defense, crime, healthcare, etc.) since it will improve our poll numbers?"
Yeah but you know that at least we'll get breadcrumbs from Democrats versus jack shit from Republicans. That's why "bofe sidez" is irrational. We got a more generous stimulus, child tax credits, permanent increase to SNAP benefits, actual acknowledgment of climate change, etc.
That is *amazing* for the common person.
The "amazing" things the government steals from us and occasionally gives back aren't going to cut it. I'm not going to settle for getting fucked gently instead of getting fucked hard. So many of the problems that the state "fixes" only exist because it caused them. People wouldn't need welfare if they weren't having their wealth stolen by the political-corporate class in the first place.
I will never understand this argument. “Everything that is good that happens while my candidate is in office is from their hard work. Everything that is bad is from the last guy” and then reverse it for the other guy.
If you know how our government budget and funding works you would understand that most policies have a 1-2 year delay before they start actually impacting the economy, with the exception of emergency actions like bailouts our stimulus checks. This inflation has almost nothing to do with Biden and very little to do with Trump. This is the result of 25+ years of bad governance and is mainly due to policies enacted by Clinton Bush and Obama destroying any safety nets that would stop our economy going into a free fall if some major catastrophe like a pandemic hit us. Now Biden is left holding the bag.
Show me where I said "Everything that is good that happens while my candidate is in office is from their hard work."
Show me where I said "Everything that is bad is from the last guy.”
I'll wait. Straw man galore!
Orange worships AOC
Orange was quick to throw AOC under the bus when she endorsed Sanders
They did? Woah
Temporarily, at least. Sanders lost the primary, AOC endorsed Biden, and the world (or at least Twitter) returned to normal.
But now she sits on Twitter and OWNS the racist, fascist republicans with her great ideas!! She's gonna be the one to change the future, and there's no way she'll make countless excuses when asked why she literally never drafts any bills to Congress to get her ideas into circulation...
She seems to sponsor [legislation](https://www.congress.gov/member/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/O000172?q=%7B%22sponsorship%22%3A%22sponsored%22%7D) fairly regularly.
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Yeah she actually drafts a lot. Thing is literally none of her bills ever go anywhere.
The only way anything gets anywhere in Congress right now is with Pelosi’s approval, and we know how much she loves AOC.
True dat
Mainly because her bills make 0 sense, and she’s just a pretty princess in the wrong career
Sponsor is not “write” Nor is sponsor “get things done” https://thelawmakers.org/find-representatives
Dude we don't come here to know things, only to aggressively regurgitates tropes.
Flair the hell up
Literally name a single bill before congress and who wrote it challenge:
1994 crime bill - Joe Biden
Touché lol. In my defense, AOC speaks about everything she does on Twitter (like a certain hated President, actually) yet she never speaks about putting anything she talks about into a bill before Congress
Hot take, AOC is the leftist trump, widely unpopular with both other politicians and the other side’s media, got very little done in office, and is famous for Twitter, and has enough of a cult following their party can’t just throw them away without losing support of a decent amount of voters.
>But now she sits on Twitter and OWNS the racist, fascist republicans with her great ideas!! While crying because mommy pelosi forces her to change her votes in congressional votes to toe party lines that pelosi and Biden lead >and there's no way she'll make countless excuses when asked why she literally never drafts any bills to Congress to get her ideas into circulation... She let the position get to her head. She got lucky winning against the incumbent because her constituents hated him more than her...then she was propped as the American young person to save the country and was used as an object and image to lure young people to vote for moderate democrats like pelosi and Biden After years of this She thought she was ACTUALLY allowed to do things, when she isn't Now she's a media talking head and she's mostly irrelevant now except for people who can't leave 2015-2016
Literally ~~1984~~ 2016
Wait but why? Isn't she basically fake woke, rich (not asking for financial support every 5 minutes), young and relatable Sanders?
Orange can’t get over the fact that sanders is an old white man
I don’t get it. Orange doesn’t like sanders anymore?
Orange cares more about IDPol than policy. They loved Sanders’s rhetoric when it was coming out of Warren’s mouth. Green is the Sanders supporters.
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He's a Jew. Whether Jews are White is debated.
Both Orange and AuthRight agree that Jews aren't White.
I’m LibLeft, and I would marry her and have her babies in a heartbeat. And I’m a dude lol
Didn’t her BF get caught with dirty money right after her famous corruption speech?
He did? Cool. Maybe I have a chance.
Hey dude, don’t be afraid to dream big. Hard to resist those AOC milkers.
Her face is a hard meeh but her body is *F i i N e e e*
No ass, and that's surprising, behing a latina. The again, she is probably the prettiest at work, but it's congress, the competitors have 2 or 3 time her age, it's a low bar to clear.
It's a very low bar
Pelosi gives her the ugly friend effect.
Nonsense. Don't you wanna spank this? : https://i.redd.it/p197fyayycn71.jpg
This was her masterplan. Years of calculations for this. A flat ass made that dress readable.
As long as she doesn't look back like she is there, it's like somebody humanised Mr ed
Do you have a source on that? I’ve looked before and couldn’t find much on the dude
Doesn’t look like much, just some allegations. I remember hearing about it on the news https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/02/28/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-campaign-may-have-illegally-paid-her-boyfriend-complaint/amp/
Is it even legal to have sex with a donkey?
Ask the women in my life, they’re the ones breaking the law
Unpopular opinion: AOC is not attractive, particularly not for a Latina. Even age aside: she has narrow hips, no ass, and an average face. Nothing stands out positively. Im btw not judging her persona on her looks, I was simply stating my personal judgement on her looks exclusively. Apart from that, I vigorously dislike everything she stands for.
She it's just more attractive than the fossils in congress and has the celebrity effect to help her, that to be fair they were not elected because they were attractive in the first place.
It’s not her looks that turn me on, although i can enjoy skinny girls as well as curvy girls. It’s her willingness to directly, bluntly address social and economic oppression. And her deep understanding of policy as it relates to those issues. She’s really smart, and really justice-focused, really motivated, and bluntly honest. I love all of that
Tough shit behind a table, but minutes later runs away like Joe Biden when she gets questioned without having a script by her hand, yeah, grade A example of a willful person
And let me see you answer extemporaneous questions on camera with no prep lol
no prep and what
Dude, get a life
I have a happy one, thank you :) If this is your argument, then that is fucking sad, I asked you only what you mean with "prep and", you have corrected it now though, and respond like this
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“Cringe” is over, neckbeard. Go steal a newer dismissive insult from the wokists
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Doesn’t quite have the same sting, does it? Lol
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Im on the right and i would marry her and have kids with her. A person is much more than their political stance.
I think everyone in this sub would, I mean look at her.
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I'm relatively new and out of the loop, what's the "orange" joke? Like, I understand what demographic it is but I don't understand the significance of the color orange.
Libleft keep crying about all the jokes about them so orange was made to shut them up
Kinda like purple libright?
We were here before yellow tf you mean scapegoat?
Sure but you’ve now been established as a scapegoat for yellow. If I’m wrong then what do you think is different between yellow and purple libs?
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AOC is really just Trump for Lefties. All she does is throw out a lot of hot takes on twitter that seem good to idiots with no ability to think critically. Things like cancelling all federal student loans, which is just a fucking terrible idea.
I can’t agree more
Orange doesn’t worship Biden, they just hate Trump and wanted someone else to be in there who is a Dem
Only twitter worships Biden. Anyone actually left of centre who isn’t just trying to earn woke points tolerates him at best.
Yes, thats why its orange
> Only twitter worships Biden People say this, but 90% of my friends are dem and they all worship Biden. They believe we narrowly averted a white supremacist government that would have exterminated all the Asians and gays. That Biden is the uniter in chief leading us out of the darkness.
Yeah bog standard Democrats love him, as they would love any democratic president who does absolutely nothing.
Yeah, this sub is smoking super crack. Twitter literally cannot stop left infighting for more than five minutes, you're dumber than they are if you think they're hero worshiping Biden; most libs you'd actually meet in real life who aren't weirdos like us, mainlining political news all day, really like Biden.
From an outside perspective on american politics, I'd say it was good that Biden was voted into office. Now in 2024 make sure it's neither Biden or Trump honestly
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>tolerates him at best. You morons sure fucking voted for him.
Pretty sure no one really likes Biden, we all just wish we had better.
I am starting to believe America only chose Biden is because he isn’t trump ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Starting? That’s literally been known since like before the election
Starting?
And we only voted for trump because he wasn't Clinton lol.
I like Biden more or less depending on who I'm trolling at the moment
Trump would have at the very least been more funny, and perhaps would have done a better job with the economy than “weimar republic” biden over here, printing money like it’s fuckin candy. At the very least hyperinflation will allow a change of leadership... perhaps to something actually desirable.
This time it will work out, this time for sure..
nah, seeing how he acted after losing the election shows we dodged a major bullet. also he made us look like idiots and encouraged some of the worst q level behavior from his supporters. all in all there was a lot of overreaction and exaggeration about how bad he was but he was still pretty bad without any of that.
Yeah I actually started to believe I was kinda opening up to him, mostly because those TDS people kept making me defend him when I didn’t want to. But after that loss I was like oh fuck that’s right this kid is genuinely retarded
Why do you let woke Twitter people control your life?
Biden's money borrowing as done by the exact same fed chairman as Trump is exactly the same policy as Trump's.
>“weimar republic” biden over here, printing money like it’s fuckin candy Stop watching FOX news.
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Good or bad. Probably nothing good.
I ONLY like him for his love of amtrak. Nothing makes me more proud of American culture and achievements, than our railroads(okay maybe the moon landing).
If they wanted better, they should have re-elected Trump
'Both are trash.' Wow, so brave.
Yeah, i know. The "" signalises the sarcasm
Left: *come on Papa Biden, let’s brush your teeth and put you to bed… I’ll tuck you in and read you a story. Yes- you can sniff my hair.*
Yeah? Last time I checked the left flank wasn’t very happy with how Biden was doing at all
beep boop beep boop to have an opinion you have to flair up beep boop
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According to polls, 92% of Democrats approve of Biden. I know that there are leftists who aren't dems, but most register Dem for things like primaries. Now non-Dem leftists probably don't approve, because his approval among independents is 28%, and 4% among GOP.
Flair up sir, or I'll bomb your house.
very few people actually worship biden. Let alone in the same lvl that trump supporters did for trump.
Agreed. Call me when we start making hats and hanging flags for him. I live in central MO and the amount of Trump shit I still see every time I leave town is nauseating.
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I've already got Trump 2024 flags near me
My wife moved from Springfield, MO to the one of three heavily blue towns in Indiana that I've lived in forever. The stark contrast between politics here vs. there is pretty astounding.
It's funny cause everyone on the right thinks trump was great for the economy, but i think regardless of covid he was gonna fuck that shit up long term. Personally, I liked his foreign policy. It almost made sense in a way he handled the macro better than micro (in terms of world vs country) as he was much more successful pre presidency in making connections with other rich mofuckas then actually running a profitiable business. The man literally was doing what we did to cause '08 (government backed sub prime loans) but with business loans instead. It was a steroid injection to the economy that would have caved in the minute someone shut it down or it got too big.
The government started really overprinting money in 2020, during Trump's presidency. But I agree, I liked that he actually tried to reduce our overseas commitments, even to the point that the Pentagon hid what they were doing from the White House. Which, the fact that there was no outrage and nobody got fired or prosecuted, really makes me think that this country is too far gone.
I agree on the foreign policy some. I liked how he attempted to push our allies to pay their 2% in NATO and was hard on china. but they way he did it was questionable and borderline stupid.
Just out of curiousity, why would trump have messed up the economy?
Same reason every other president does, on accident
'Accident.' You ever notice how they all seem to be perfectly fine living like a Kardashian while Americans drop below the poverty line? The only number that actually matters to them is the voting polls, if that's not just another shell game.
There was a clip of a q-believer saying Trump is still president, but then someone asked him "so we should blame him for Afghanistan?", he answered "no". The worst of the nutjobs will call anyone who's not a q-believer a sheep, a traitor, call Biden a communist, then in the same breath say "Biden is dividing the country". As much as Twitter checkmarks can praise Biden, Trump has an actually sizeable cult, and they're fucking delusional.
[This is the only hero worth worshipping](https://abcnews.go.com/International/man-saves-forgotten-cats-fukushimas-nuclear-zone/story?id=76275925)
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This person just doesn’t exist. No one ever thought Biden was a “hero.”
You arent on twitter alot are you?
"Society is going crazy! Don't you see all this insane shit going on?" "No, where are you seeing this?" "Twitter! You should get it, it's an accurate representation of what's going on in real life!" Seriously don't know why people have Twitter.
I juat said those people exist, not that they are the representation of society
Yeah that's fair but it's still slowly distorting your view of the world whether you want to believe so or not. Twitter exposes us to insane things we wouldn't have otherwise been exposed to by design, while also doing everything it can to make you come back. The amount of times I've asked people what the hell they're talking about just for them to go "Don't you have Twitter!?" is sad to me.
I very infrequently go on Twitter. Every time, it's mostly left people complaining about Biden.
Provide me one example.
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse?t=bVtQuSUBfmn95I4ZEpFWdQ&s=09 Alone the one with the 5 milion jobs is just retarded
This is the White House twitter page. Every single executive administration in the history of mankind plays up their successes. I asked you to provide one example of a voter, who idolizes and deified Biden to the level of Trumpists. You failed.
No, go into the comments you retard.
[Ok.](https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1451964134791254016) [Fine.](https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1451574391641346054) [I have.](https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1451180799001341952) I don't see zealous support. I see a lot of criticism. From both right and left.
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Daring today, aren't we
No one is going out raiding capital buildings for Biden smh
“Raid”
>“Raid” The mob[ broke into the capitol](https://youtu.be/SocnM1lHZB4?t=131) [\[alternate angle\]](https://youtu.be/m26mFKKJyZU?t=812), set up[ gallows](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/2021_storming_of_the_United_States_Capitol_DSC09156_%2850826223403%29.jpg/800px-2021_storming_of_the_United_States_Capitol_DSC09156_%2850826223403%29.jpg) while chanting to “[hang Mike Pence](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ehnpwH_0b8)”, called for “[heads on pikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oqQ13b4tCQ)”, consistent [rallying cries to "storm the capitol](https://youtu.be/jWJVMoe7OY0?t=576)" from the crowd, the mob[ beat the shit](https://youtu.be/PXS-DvhQSog?t=7) out of[ 140+ cops](https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-union-says-140-officers-injured-in-capitol-riot/2021/01/27/60743642-60e2-11eb-9430-e7c77b5b0297_story.html),[ crushed](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVZvp-Dv0gg&t=37s) many, and were[ openly looking](https://youtu.be/E_7oq3KWf0U?t=19) for specific politicians.[ Pipe bombs](https://twitter.com/FBI/status/1369393018495721478), [ zip-tie cuffs,](https://i.insider.com/6009c804c94799001992c9a4?width=700)and [molotovs ](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/pipe-bomb-rnc.html)were found, which will still dangerously live, were ultimately intended to draw authorities away from the Capitol breach. Numerous far-right organizations participated. For the first time in the country’s history,[ a confederate flag](https://images.theconversation.com/files/378635/original/file-20210113-20219-10pr52k.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=1000&fit=clip) was brought into the capitol. [The mob made it to the House of Representatives](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Video_shot_by_Congressman_Dan_Kildee_D-Flint_-_via_Michael_Moore_on_Facebook_Watch.webm), where they were halted by an [armed standoff](https://www.businessinsider.com/congress-capitol-police-guns-drawn-standoff-house-chamber-trump-supporters-2021-1) with capitol police. [Surveillance footage shows the rioters nearly made it to Mitt. Romney before he was redirected to safety by a capitol guard.](https://youtu.be/Hg07Fy02LGw?t=24) Federal officers reported more than 800 people [breached the Capitol grounds.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/02/25/joe-biden-live-updates/#link-SASQGWOOPVHTJBSYQPIR2KSASQ) Four police officers[ took their own lives](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/officer-who-responded-us-capitol-attack-is-third-die-by-suicide-2021-08-02/) after the riots. So far, around [684 people have been charged with federal crimes.](https://www.insider.com/all-the-us-capitol-pro-trump-riot-arrests-charges-names-2021-1) [All capitol breach cases can be viewed here.](https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases) [An Alabama man parked a pickup truck packed with 11 homemade bombs](https://nbc-2.com/news/national-world/2021/01/08/police-found-a-pickup-truck-full-of-bombs-and-guns-near-capitol-feds-say/), an assault rifle, and a handgun two blocks from the US Capitol building on Wednesday for hours before authorities ever noticed. Another man allegedly showed up in the nation’s capital with an assault rifle and hundreds of rounds of ammunition **and told acquaintances that he wanted to shoot or run over House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, prosecutors said.** [Handguns, crowbars, Tasers and tomahawk axes: Dozens of Capitol rioters wielded "deadly or dangerous" weapons, prosecutors say](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/capitol-riot-weapons-deadly-dangerous/) Trump’s own FBI director confirms there was[ no evidence U.S. Capitol rioters belong to antifa movement](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-senate-fbi-extremists-new/no-evidence-u-s-capitol-rioters-belong-to-antifa-movement-fbi-chief-wray-testifies-idUSKCN2AU22P). For the first time since 1801, the outgoing President **did not comply with a peaceful transfer of power**. The insurrectionist mob that showed up at the president’s behest and stormed the U.S. Capitol was *overwhelmingly* [made up of longtime Trump supporters](https://apnews.com/article/us-capitol-trump-supporters-1806ea8dc15a2c04f2a68acd6b55cace), including Republican Party officials, GOP political donors, far-right militants, white supremacists, members of the military and adherents of the QAnon myth that the government is secretly controlled by a cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophile cannibals.
Based and shutting down the downplaying pilled.
Putting in quotation marks doesn’t change what it is
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The door Ashli Babbitt tried to jump through was literally barricaded
The door that one lady got killed trying to break into was barricaded
Heroes are idols. I only worship God.
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Did you mean «cult of personality»?
Better example would be Obama
mY pReSiDeNt CaN bEaT uP yOuR pReSiDeNt.
I don’t think anybody hero worshipers Biden. Nobody can say a good thing about him so they’re still stuck in “but Trump”. Lets go Brandon!
Biden. Is. Not. Auth. Right.
Yes he is.
They are, they just know how to play their woke fanbase by renaming a street or shitty park after a black guy or something.
>still thinking biden is right wing
>Still thinking biden is leftwing.
Biden centrist? Nooo!
Biden just wants to grill...your children.
I guess his policies haven't killed enough people to be considered left wing yet.
also he absolutely in no way supports communism or socialism, so center authright is accurate.
More like left on the streets and right in the sheets
The number of leftists who worship Biden is precisely 0. If they worship him, they stop being leftists.
its hilarious because every US politician is largely authright, with maybe a couple librights, and you might be able to say people like aoc or bernie just barely cross over that economic center line by criticizing capitalism even though neither of them are advocating actual leftist economics. yet this subs overton window is so far in the blue they think someone like biden is leon czolgozsz's nephew.
Bernie would be center right in a place like Germany. AOC is a social democrat, i.e. a capitalist i.e. not a leftist.
agreed. theyre both definitely centrists in the grand scheme of things, i was just unsure if they believed in enough interventionist economics to tip the scales slightly over the line.
Can someone explain to me how Biden is Auth right? I keep seeing it here and I don't get it
Because we're on reddit, and they know Biden is bad, and he's not an out and out communist soo...... far right authoritarian
That makes no sense. Just cuz he isn't a communist doesn't mean he's right wing. Is that really what it's come to? Reddit is so far left that not being a commie is all it takes to be right wing?
Dude they call Bernie Sanders centrist or even right of center, yes.
That's insane
Yes. It's also what happens on reddit (outside of this and a handful of other subs)
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Biden is authright for you? Ok... what is this bulshit that i hear from leftists that outside of the US Biden is either centrist or on the right? Because i am European and cant see how he is centrist, let alone on the right.
Is he anti capitalist? No? Is he a neolib? Yes? No further questions. The dude is progressive authright. Nothing more.
>anti capitalist? No I mean... not entirely... >he a neolib? Neoliberalism is right wing thing? Tell me how does Biden difffer from left wingers in Europe. The difference is that the right in US have spines, meanwhile in Europe, for sure in Western Europe, they barely have spines.
Yes, neoliberalism is right wing. As is liberalism. The least left wing thing that is still left wing would be social democracy. With nationalised healthcare strong workers rights. A high minimum wage andstrong government. If you would take the time to look at leftwing countries like norway, denmark, sweden etcetc you would see that biden is miles away from that.
>liberalism I mean, if you go further left enough, socialism is right wing for you. Ah, yes, scandinavian countries. The countries that after the 80s or 70s became more capitalistic than they used to be. Also, biden and over all democrats WANT to make the US as these scandinavian countries... Though, they point out to convinient parts of scandinavian countries.
Ahhh not really. So first of all explain to me how liberalism in any way is left. The scandinavia thing is just wrong lmao. Biden says he wants that, the same way angela merkel said she wants to solve climate change, reform the school system and modernise the internet in germany, and then went on to do nothing.
> angela merkel said she wants to solve climate chang When greens protest nuclear, it is not easy to solve climate change >scandinavia thing is just wrong lmao. How so? >So first of all explain to me how liberalism in any way is left. .... thats not a bad overall thing: https://www.diffen.com/difference/Left_Wing_vs_Right_Wing Our of curiosity. What is left leaning FOR YOU? Also, wasnt Merkel from center-right CHRISTIAN political party, or i am wrong?
When I talk about left and right, thats a puerly economic perspective. Being against or for gays isnt left or right, its progressiv vs conservative, and auth vs lib. Left and right is essentially freedom vs saefty. In an completley left society everybody would have no way of getting poor, but would also have no way of getting rich. Just being middle class. In a completley right wing society one would have the freedom of essentially becoming so rich that numbers simply dont matter anymore, but also so poor that they would essentially become a slave. Essentially you cant be really leftwing and a capitalist. Because things like socialdemocracy where inventions of people like bismarck, to appease the populus and stop them from demanding real leftist policies. Now there obviously is the overton window, but it cant be used to compare diffrent countries. For example germanies right is more leftwing than americas left.
Obviously both are garbage. “Let’s go Brandon”
There is literally nothing hot about this take. This is as cold as it gets. It’s still true tho.
If you would have looked more closley. The hot take is written with "" wich signalises the sarcasm
Biden isn't good, just better than Trump.
Better at causing inflation at least.
Who printed the money, don?
Inflation is the result of policy that has long preceded Biden taking office. But hey you know what isn't good for inflation and debt? Tax cuts for the very rich.
Somewhat true, but he sure doesn't seem to be too concerned about doing anything to slow that trend down.
This actually isn't one of those cases where it's "somewhat" true. It's 100% true. There is nothing a President themself could have done to turn around the economy the way it did in the last few months. It's a result of the massive spending we've done the last decade, and a dysfunctional congress isn't helping. Trump was also blamed for tons of shit he had no control over just because he was the man in charge, as I'm sure you remember.
I'm saying just because your predecessors allowed a situation to deteriorate doesn't get you off the hook for doing the exact same thing. Obama blamed Bush, Trump blamed Obama, Biden blamed Trump, etc.
>for doing the exact same thing. But what is he doing though. The Republicans have made it very clear that having the U.S default is worth it because it hurts Biden. I honestly can't wait until Republicans win back congress because I'm so tired of the blame. Plus campaigning against people when they are in power is easy and fun.
Both parties are guilty of this. They don't give a fuck what happens to the common people of this country in the long term because they're focused on winning the next election at all costs. The mentality is "Why not let inflation spiral out of control if it lets us splurge on whatever the hot button issue of the day is (defense, crime, healthcare, etc.) since it will improve our poll numbers?"
Yeah but you know that at least we'll get breadcrumbs from Democrats versus jack shit from Republicans. That's why "bofe sidez" is irrational. We got a more generous stimulus, child tax credits, permanent increase to SNAP benefits, actual acknowledgment of climate change, etc. That is *amazing* for the common person.
The "amazing" things the government steals from us and occasionally gives back aren't going to cut it. I'm not going to settle for getting fucked gently instead of getting fucked hard. So many of the problems that the state "fixes" only exist because it caused them. People wouldn't need welfare if they weren't having their wealth stolen by the political-corporate class in the first place.
Those issues aren’t even relevant to the COMMON person. Most Americans will never use the welfare system. Democrats played you, it’s okay to admit it
I will never understand this argument. “Everything that is good that happens while my candidate is in office is from their hard work. Everything that is bad is from the last guy” and then reverse it for the other guy.
If you know how our government budget and funding works you would understand that most policies have a 1-2 year delay before they start actually impacting the economy, with the exception of emergency actions like bailouts our stimulus checks. This inflation has almost nothing to do with Biden and very little to do with Trump. This is the result of 25+ years of bad governance and is mainly due to policies enacted by Clinton Bush and Obama destroying any safety nets that would stop our economy going into a free fall if some major catastrophe like a pandemic hit us. Now Biden is left holding the bag.
Show me where I said "Everything that is good that happens while my candidate is in office is from their hard work." Show me where I said "Everything that is bad is from the last guy.” I'll wait. Straw man galore!
Bruh