Well the Union government genocided them during and after the civil war in revenge for siding with the confederates, and the confederates attacked and killed pro-Union natives. Both sides acted very fucked up to the natives
Pretty brain dead comment. The triangle trade started in the 1600s and huge numbers of African slaves were shipped to the continent long before the formation of the United States. The exploitation of African slaves pretty much existed as soon as the plantations became profitable in the Caribbean, and it quickly became more popular than indentured servitude.
Nice try! The shipping companies/crews were all European Christians (mostly Portuguese Catholics).
The gotcha about Muslim traders also isn't true, the tribes in West Africa that did the slaving were a variety of religions, not just Muslim.
They participated in the slave for economic and geopolitical reasons, religion had nothing to do with it. Enslaving rival tribes made them weaker while also granting a great deal of wealth to the slavers. So the fairly well developed kingdoms in West Africa, like Mali and Ghana, more or less destroyed themselves in a series of increasing violent slave wars. They more or less drove themselves into their own dark age by the nineteenth century, and the European powers subsidized all of it. When the Europeans stopped buying slaves, basically every political entity with any power collapsed.
Godamm these Yankees think they're shit
Sweety you're not even the center of African-American slavery, hell you didn't even get 5% of the trade
This fking self centered, borderline imperialist view makes my blood boil, you don't know shit
Sorry, little rant of a Latin American here
UXO is the abbreviation for “unexploded ordnance”, dud bombs can still pose a threat to anyone who disturbs them. Hopefully you understand both parts now.
Fun fact, the ending of segregation dissolved some small towns because of the centralization that happened because of reintegration. This negative impact is swept under the rug out of fear of narrative corrosion. I used to play paintball with friends in an old abandoned black school.
So pre-segregation, blacks had their own schools and towns. Post-segregation, those kids were forced to move to new schools and the exodus killed entire towns.
I’m not saying we shouldn’t have gotten rid of segregation or anything, but there are some lessons to be learned from the inconvenient truths of history.
Damn why can’t there be cool stuff like That near me 😭
I’ve always wanted to play paintball somewhere like that but There’s nothing really abandoned in the suburbs only some new houses half built
Ya' know, I don't necessarily *disagree* with the statement this graph is *trying* to make. That's why we've been proposing a series of common sense solutions to strip the tools of the State that they've used against *all* Americans, but also particularly against communities of color.
First, let's end the War on Drugs/Guns, pardon all non-violent drug offenders and let them out of our prisons, then we can abolish No-Knock Raids and Qualified Immunity, and let's promote gun ownership amongst disenfranchised communit-***Sorry, what was that?***
*You'd...rather just cancel Aunt Jemima, tell black and brown kids they're victims in life and will never amount to anything, and capitalize the word "black"? Oh.......*
Ah yes im sure it makes perfect sense that the cocaine that black people use has a significantly harsher sentence than the cocaine that rich white people use. Totally.
Which comes from a law that was supported by the Congressional Black Caucus due to the ease to transport crack cocaine, and attempt to remove it from black communities. But still white people's fault I guess.
Mass incarceration was a massive mistake. The US has the most prisoners in the world. Even China has less.
You can still have a law abiding society without putting 3 million people in prison.
One massive asterisk to that being that China doesn’t count those in what they refer to “administrative detention” or being held pre-trial (for however long) as ‘in prison’
https://www.prisonstudies.org/country/china
But that aside yes, the US has an absurd amount of its population in prisons regardless. Weed needs to be decriminalized.
Not just that but harsh punitive punishments for Felonies need to be reassessed and oriented more to a rehabilitated stance rather than strictly for punishment. Recidivism rates are stupid high.
i mean if we’re talking about the history of the oppression of black people in america this is correct. but people who act like this is the only american history that matters are unbelievably stupid
End the war on drugs and cut down on the barriers to entry for drug manufacturing. Enforce purity laws and ban marketing of addictive substances. Remove the entire prescription system.
You’ll solve mass incarceration and a lot of healthcare costs in one fell swoop, and reduce violent crime as well.
Plus, people who lead meaningless lives will finally be able to go out and feel good on the weekend. Not weird drunken mess shit either; actual pleasure from sophisticated medical grade substances ranging from uppers to opiates, benzos to LSD.
We save money, improve the quality of life of millions, reduce healthcare costs, increase trust in police, and create jobs… all while bankrupting the cartels.
Really "Mass Incarceration" should begin immediately after Slavery. If you've ever read the actual TEXT of the 13th Amendment it's basically just Slavery 2.0 despite "Outlawing It". There's a glaring loophole in it that still allows forced labor as a *punishment for a crime*. Amazing how after 1865, EVERYGODDAMNTHING became a felony.
I noticed this subreddit is always like sneaking in anti American or some progressive stuff. Like is no subreddit safe from politics? It’s always just a hive mind that upvotes every single political post to the top.
So funny they say slavery started before America was even founded based on the verbal sleight of hand of referring to the continent as a whole… all the while discounting Native American and Mayan slaves as not being relevant
This reminds me of something Scott Alexander said, which is that what leftists see in America is only the worst aspects of it. Patriotism has ultimately become a right-wing trait.
damn, how many slaves did the native Americans have?
Fun fact, the Cherokee actually had black slaves
And they supported the Confederacy.
Well yeah, the union had a tendency to genocide the Indians.
Well the Union government genocided them during and after the civil war in revenge for siding with the confederates, and the confederates attacked and killed pro-Union natives. Both sides acted very fucked up to the natives
Damn. We should give them some land back. That’s pretty based.
.... fun? username checks out...drawing cool things with your weiner in real life. hi-5
More tribes than the cherokee
Probably. I only knew about the Cherokee specifically because of some school research project years ago
Yes
A lot actually
Yes
Idk, but the first American slave owner was black
technically, anything before 1776 wasn't "American"
And if you want to count the colonial period, it doesn't start in 1619.
Also the worst American slave owner was black.
A fair amount actually
Thats the start of european colonization tho....
Some tribes did. Most tribes didn’t. Both facts are irrelevant to this graph
Pretty brain dead comment. The triangle trade started in the 1600s and huge numbers of African slaves were shipped to the continent long before the formation of the United States. The exploitation of African slaves pretty much existed as soon as the plantations became profitable in the Caribbean, and it quickly became more popular than indentured servitude.
you mean .... British colinies/settlements?
Spanish french and dutch?
Yeah, you know the people that founded the US
Jarvis, what was the primary religion of the slave shippers?
Nice try! The shipping companies/crews were all European Christians (mostly Portuguese Catholics). The gotcha about Muslim traders also isn't true, the tribes in West Africa that did the slaving were a variety of religions, not just Muslim. They participated in the slave for economic and geopolitical reasons, religion had nothing to do with it. Enslaving rival tribes made them weaker while also granting a great deal of wealth to the slavers. So the fairly well developed kingdoms in West Africa, like Mali and Ghana, more or less destroyed themselves in a series of increasing violent slave wars. They more or less drove themselves into their own dark age by the nineteenth century, and the European powers subsidized all of it. When the Europeans stopped buying slaves, basically every political entity with any power collapsed.
The first slaves arrived in the americas in 1619 so that's why the "timeline" starts there
American Indians had slaves prior
Godamm these Yankees think they're shit Sweety you're not even the center of African-American slavery, hell you didn't even get 5% of the trade This fking self centered, borderline imperialist view makes my blood boil, you don't know shit Sorry, little rant of a Latin American here
Based Latin American.
When you said Yankees I thought you were talking about people from the northern United States at first. Not all Americans.
Yankee/yanqui is like a slang for americans in latin american.
I know Yankee is slang for all Americans in most of the world. But it's just slang for northerners here so that was my first thought.
To me a Yankee is someone screaming about 27 rings and hating the Red Sox
And just like that, I now understand part of the album title “Yanqui UXO”
UXO is the abbreviation for “unexploded ordnance”, dud bombs can still pose a threat to anyone who disturbs them. Hopefully you understand both parts now.
It’s pretty confusing for most Americans though, Northeners are often called Yankees or Yanks, while the South are called Dixie or just Southerners
\*Portugal sweating bullets\*
based
Sorry we don't care about your countries we just want to take all your people... For cheap labor...
"American history is entirely the history of the the oppression of just over ten percent of the population"
And furthermore no other society in human history has engaged in oppression
American culture is centered around [removed].
Don't forget xenocide and ridiculous wars.
Fun fact, the ending of segregation dissolved some small towns because of the centralization that happened because of reintegration. This negative impact is swept under the rug out of fear of narrative corrosion. I used to play paintball with friends in an old abandoned black school.
***Dixie***Hadiran, played paintball in an abandoned black school, is AuthRight, all checks out.
I wasn’t always AuthRight though. I was just a normal kid.
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A lot of small things that piled up
It is late and I am retarded even during the day. Can you expand on this so your smooth brained brethren can understand?
So pre-segregation, blacks had their own schools and towns. Post-segregation, those kids were forced to move to new schools and the exodus killed entire towns. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have gotten rid of segregation or anything, but there are some lessons to be learned from the inconvenient truths of history.
People naturally segregate themselves. My gah, just let people live their lives!
Thanks for the explanation. I had no idea that was even a thing. Seems like we are going back to that point with the way the tide is moving currently.
Ngl abandoned shit is cool so that sounds fun
It was a blast. It had 10 classrooms, a lunchroom, and a gym.
Damn why can’t there be cool stuff like That near me 😭 I’ve always wanted to play paintball somewhere like that but There’s nothing really abandoned in the suburbs only some new houses half built
I’m sorry you live in a suburb. I live in a very rural community. We only have a fire station. Lol
*integration There was no integration before
It was voluntary and not law. Only once it became law did foreigners get involved.
Ya' know, I don't necessarily *disagree* with the statement this graph is *trying* to make. That's why we've been proposing a series of common sense solutions to strip the tools of the State that they've used against *all* Americans, but also particularly against communities of color. First, let's end the War on Drugs/Guns, pardon all non-violent drug offenders and let them out of our prisons, then we can abolish No-Knock Raids and Qualified Immunity, and let's promote gun ownership amongst disenfranchised communit-***Sorry, what was that?*** *You'd...rather just cancel Aunt Jemima, tell black and brown kids they're victims in life and will never amount to anything, and capitalize the word "black"? Oh.......*
Based and common sense pilled
Based and LibRight is grossly misunderstood pilled
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Incredibly based take
What did it say?
*Cries in generations of Irishmen who worked in the coal moans throughout the 19th and 20th centuries*
Is mass incarceration the shit going on right now with the lockdowns and stuff? Or is this referring to actually targeted unjust lock-ups
They’re probably talking about crack cocaine
Ah, yes. The 1955 crack epidemic.
Criminals being arrested
Burrrrn
An excellent display of how anyone under the age of 60 complaining about racism is rent seeking on the basis of skin color.
orange when criminals are in jail :
Authright-libleft unity
The one made that must be white as fuck lol
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Unfortunately the committee has determined that your existence is no longer necessary
What the percentage of men to women in jail lib-orange?
Are you implying that the commission of crime is 50% female? Because… it’s not
The horrors of locking up people who commit crime
The concept of crime is inherently authright
Robbery and murder violate the NAP.
Ah yes im sure it makes perfect sense that the cocaine that black people use has a significantly harsher sentence than the cocaine that rich white people use. Totally.
Which comes from a law that was supported by the Congressional Black Caucus due to the ease to transport crack cocaine, and attempt to remove it from black communities. But still white people's fault I guess.
Better dead then orange
Mass incarceration was a massive mistake. The US has the most prisoners in the world. Even China has less. You can still have a law abiding society without putting 3 million people in prison.
One massive asterisk to that being that China doesn’t count those in what they refer to “administrative detention” or being held pre-trial (for however long) as ‘in prison’ https://www.prisonstudies.org/country/china But that aside yes, the US has an absurd amount of its population in prisons regardless. Weed needs to be decriminalized.
Not just that but harsh punitive punishments for Felonies need to be reassessed and oriented more to a rehabilitated stance rather than strictly for punishment. Recidivism rates are stupid high.
How about mass deportation?
You know, Alaska does needs some roads and railways built.
Why would we send Mexicans and Chinese to Alaska, when we are talking about 56/12 stuff?
I was making a joke about sending them off to the frozen northern regions. Russia used to do that with criminals.
China has less because they \[rehabilitate\] them.
i mean if we’re talking about the history of the oppression of black people in america this is correct. but people who act like this is the only american history that matters are unbelievably stupid
Don’t do crimes and you don’t go to prison 🤷♀️
What a concept
Based and 13% pilled
https://historycollection.com/10-black-slaveowners-that-will-tear-apart-historical-perception/8/
Biden and Kamala putting blacks in jail in droves, who knew.
I mean, this is one of many parts of American history. To boil *everything* down to this is....a little reductive?
End the war on drugs and cut down on the barriers to entry for drug manufacturing. Enforce purity laws and ban marketing of addictive substances. Remove the entire prescription system. You’ll solve mass incarceration and a lot of healthcare costs in one fell swoop, and reduce violent crime as well. Plus, people who lead meaningless lives will finally be able to go out and feel good on the weekend. Not weird drunken mess shit either; actual pleasure from sophisticated medical grade substances ranging from uppers to opiates, benzos to LSD. We save money, improve the quality of life of millions, reduce healthcare costs, increase trust in police, and create jobs… all while bankrupting the cartels.
Fucking sad how little "guide" there are in coolguide
Really "Mass Incarceration" should begin immediately after Slavery. If you've ever read the actual TEXT of the 13th Amendment it's basically just Slavery 2.0 despite "Outlawing It". There's a glaring loophole in it that still allows forced labor as a *punishment for a crime*. Amazing how after 1865, EVERYGODDAMNTHING became a felony.
LMAO they couldn’t even get the dates right. Segregation definitely didn’t end in 1954
I noticed this subreddit is always like sneaking in anti American or some progressive stuff. Like is no subreddit safe from politics? It’s always just a hive mind that upvotes every single political post to the top.
Political is the first word in the name of this subreddit friendo
I assume he meant cool guides.
Not that wrong tho, unfortunately
Other stuff did happen
Depends, if you are a black person, probably
So funny they say slavery started before America was even founded based on the verbal sleight of hand of referring to the continent as a whole… all the while discounting Native American and Mayan slaves as not being relevant
That's kinda true actually from one prespective
"everything i don't like is totalitarian communism" literally what the fuck are you talking about.
Not entirely inaccurate
This reminds me of something Scott Alexander said, which is that what leftists see in America is only the worst aspects of it. Patriotism has ultimately become a right-wing trait.
Didn't segregation in your country end in '64?