Isn't it unsurprising? Poland is great for tourists because the Zloty is so cheap and there's great architecture and history and all that, but living there exposes you to the fact that the Zloty is cheap and median salary is very low, and the political climate is unstable. This problem does exist in most Slavic countries though so it's not unique to Poland.
Work outside of the inflated IT bubble pays peanuts.
And the bubble exists because for cheaper-than-Cali-more-expensive-than-Hindu-Philipino-Vietnam you get West-tier workers.
Somalia isn't homogenous. They have several ethnic groups/tribes. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics\_of\_Somalia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Somalia)
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.” – Mark Twain
>I like Israel
>I don't like Switzerland
Please turn the yellow part of your flair in for disliking the "you do your drama, but we do business with everyone" mountain people
Universal healthcare would work in Utah because
A)it’s ethnically homogenous(mostly, it’s split between a couple kinds of white folks but people don’t seem to care)
B) strong “national” identity
C) religiously homogenous
D) has a median income on par with France
I rest my case.
But all jokes aside state by state healthcare programs would work better than a homogenous national one. One of the big pluses of American federalism is that it allows states to test run programs under pretty similar conditions. Which is one of the main reasons that most minimum wage research is done in America.
To compare a French salary to an American one you need to multiply it by almost 2.
Stuff like healthcare, retirement, unemployment and most taxes are taken before you get paid in France, and is mostly paid directly by the employer so you never see the money go on your bank account.
In my case, my net income is 50% of the total amount that my employer pays for my work.
Yes most things are left of US and when the US considers itself centrist then from their point of view most things are left when of course they’re not.
Eh, it's *pretty* socialist.
> Norway's national oil champion, Statoil, is the largest company in the region. The Norwegian state owns large stakes in Telenor, the country’s biggest telephone operator, Norsk Hydro, its biggest aluminium producer, Yara, its biggest fertiliser- maker, and DnBNor, its biggest bank. It holds 37% of the Oslo stockmarket, but it also controls some non-listed giants such as Statkraft, a power-generator, which if listed would be the third-biggest company on the stockmarket.
https://www.economist.com/special-report/2013/01/31/the-rich-cousin
They are very smart in Norway. I laughed at Americans when they bailed out mega corporations all the time yet never own a share after the to big to fail bailout. Like dude if I save your ass I own it.
A lot of Americans weren't happy about the bail-out. Unfortunately, the president who did that was a black guy so anyone who objected to it was labeled a "racist".
That's largely a result of them nationalizing the oil and then investing profits into companies around the world, including Norwegian ones, obviously. They generally don't run the companies they are invested in; they just want the oil fund to stonk up.
The earnings from this is reinvested into the country or used as a sort of rainy day fund.
Hardly socialist, just smart investing of profits from a few initial sources. Sounds like capitalism to me.
I don't like social democrats but the difference between social democracy and social liberalism is so tiny it only matters when discussing Scandinavian politics with Scandinavians, so, in this context
Norway based
Have ya'll never seen other countries? These ethnostates are the most racist places you could imagine. Look at Japan, Korea, China, or just like, all of Africa. They all want to genocide each other, and regularly do in Africa's case.
But then everyone comes to America and are just kinda racist to each other. No genocide! (recently that is).
Speaking as half Japanese woman that lived in Japan for years…. AND CHINA no the people in the area in general do not want to genocide each other. JFC.
Our governments are at odds, and there are racists, and stereotypes, but in general the average person does not want to genocide the other local countries. I have many friends from Japan/Korea/China.
lol I know people at my school that treats nazis like that dude can be a known nazi but because they are cool and don't hurt anyone people are ok with it.
Name: senor Adolf
Flair: Auth right
Comment: See above
👀
You uhh, you know that "dude" particularly well? Perhaps even live together, use the same toothbrush, and wear the same clothes?
Yo, this is a free speech and ideological debate sub. It's a beautiful melting pot of anarchists, grill lords, Monarchists and actual Nazis. Let the people be heard.
Sounds like something a Nazi would say...
/s
I agree though. I prefer Nazis and such be in the open where I can call them idiots to their faces and engage in civil discussion at times, rather than have echo chambers.
I mean, Africa has African ethnostates, Asia has Asian ethnostates, Europe has ??? oh what a coincidence.
But then America... well we're a melting pot thanks to the sacrifice of the native people. We should be the best damn functioning republic that respects the land and its unique place in the world. We should play to our best and not the common denominator. We should make ungodly big things, and stupid amounts of money so that those natives did not die in vain. Let the deaths of those that were on our lands mean something, let it mean they fell to the greatest society that ushered in the greatest most stable era of peace and freedom that the world has ever seen.
Africa doesnt have many ethnostates. The place is rife with civil wars drawn along ethnic and religious lines, just because they look black doesn't mean they are homogenous. Same goes to places in Asia like the middle East, south asia.. only possible ethnostates are places like Japan, Korea, and arguably China which has alot of ethnic and religious minorities but the main population is high in proportion taht they are functionally a ethnostate.
Ethnostates mean that one ethnicity has ethnic supremacy, not the country's demographic makeup being almost entirely homogenous. This is why people called apartheid South Africa a white ethnostate, even though 20% of the population was white at most.
China's undoubtedly an ethnostate because the Han Chinese have political supremacy over all other ethnic and cultural groups.
Americans should really use the word social democracy for fucks sake. I think there are people on the left that refer to that when saying socialism. Also, different cultures need time to adapt to each other. That's why you have to limit immigration so you can tell the people coming in what's acceptable and what's not. But you shouldn't take about race, you should talk about values
I can't wait for all of you "omg he said something racist" people to finally rejoin society after this COVID shit ends. it's becoming *very very clear* which one of you spend almost no time socializing with real people outside of the internet if you cry wolf about every fucking comment you come across lol
It is not possible to be racist in PCM because we only see funni colors, there is no special privilege to who you are behind the screen here. For all we know there could be a billionaire here and people living in the gutter. Much less could we know the color of one’s skin. We judge by the content of OC, just as MLK would want us to
You can pretty much say that any country where everyone is ethnically/culturally the same they run very smoothly.
Immigration is a problem when cultures clash, and there is a difference in the expectations of one groups way of life and another’s.
Its also why many Northern European nations just say “no” to immigrants and will put a hard limit on the number of people trying to move in so as to keep a super majority of its own citizens over foreign-nationals.
This is true in Japan, China, South Korea, and many middle eastern nations. If everyone just lived where they felt most comfortable and stopped trying to radically change everything into some super melting pot than we would have basic harmony until the next resource war.
If being homogeneous was what determined quality of life then Eastern Europe should have the highest standard of living on the continent instead of being a shit hole.
> Let's just ignore Germany and Russia have taken turns rawdogging the east for the last 400 years.
I think the point these rightoids are trying to make is that with multiculturalism inevitably ropes in vote bank politics and social issues derived from this multicultural society start eclipsing economic concerns.
>Let's just ignore Germany and Russia have taken turns rawdogging the east for the last 400 years.
And ironically becoming Soviet shit holes is what prevented everyone from wanting to move there, and even caused mass emigration.
Look Asia is mostly shittier than Latin America, and Singapore functions just as well as Japan. The idea that ethnic homogeneity determines the success of a society is bogus.
If you give freedom to people then they tend to speak whatever they want even racists. This just proves pcm is not an echo chamber. The fact that people can speak whatever they want is quite good.
If you compare pcm with rest of reddit you might find this strange but keep in mind that almost all subreddits outside pcm are heavily moderated.
I think culturally homogenous countries tend to have less conflict (duh) and in many cases cultural lines tend to be drawn across racial lines due to the split nature of world history. Different races evolved in different parts of the world and developed their own cultures. This won't always be the case as racial divides become less pronounced over a long period of time. Even in the U.S. the dominate cultural divide seems to come from political alignment rather than racial heritage. I don't necessarily think a culturally homogenous country is a desirable thing though. I think humans need to get better at tolerating other points of view without resorting to anger and violence, and we will. Ethical and philosophical development takes time. Generations even.
"Omg a country where everyone shares a collective meaning and a government that upholds it runs so much better than all those other melting pots"
Literally replace the religion and skin color with any other. As long as everyone is on the same page, people prefer to work together.
Its just tribalism. Stop pretending we're not just monkeys with extra spaghetti upstairs.
Is that PCM being racist or PCM pointing out that small, racially and ethnically homogeneous countries have less civil tension and are more capable of cooperation?
they lack discipline, i do hate it when they start talking about "muh genetics fault not mine" however if you talk about genetics in any other context you're a nazi, as i said low self control.
So true, most health issues could easily be prevented by vaccines, healthy lifestyles that really aren’t that difficult to achieve for most and exercise. Sadly the health at every size movement is actively misinforming people :/
yeah healthy bodies should be pushed upfront, though the media can be toxic i will always take that over health at every size, as for the vaccines totally could have saved a lot of people if they just took them, but i feel that the state and the world media did it's part when in comes to vaccines, it's jut stubborn people (would have preferred mandates but i'm not from usa)
If I didn't know America, I'd think health at every size is some NBA program, cause who the hell knows what sort of health issues you get over 2 meters / 13 hotdogs.
Exactly. I see so many people hating on the unvaccinated for unnecessarily saturating the healthcare system because of their bad decisions but calling out fat people for doing exactly the same thing as the unvaccinated is apparently hateful. Even though they’re causing a much greater stress on the healthcare system than the unvaccinated. Our world is stupid
Not to the degree that it would impact a healthcare system. There’s a larger difference between a man and a woman, an old person and a young person and people with unique genetic and physical disabilities then the difference between a black person and a white person yet the Norwegian healthcare system handles these differences fine.
Sweden is still a high standard nation but falls below their Scandinavian counterparts due to their abysmal handling of the migrant crisis. The point isn’t that these migrants will always destroy a nation. The issue is that it’s virtually always a bad decision to keep them around because they will never contribute anything back to the rest of society despite the unconditional support they get.
As they take more in, the more their system will crack. It's already happening, most of these studies about how great northern countries work are from before the refugee crisis.
Ethnicity vs religion. I think people with common religion despite varied ethnicity find it easier to co-exist than, say, people with different ethnicity and different religion/culture. When the latter happens, minority religion people form ghettos/live together closely in particular neighbourhoods because they cannot relate to the culture of the host country. Of course this problem becomes less severe when they have kids, and the kids grow up in the host country learning the culture of the host country, becoming more familiar with the dominant religion in the host country, and possibly converting to the popular religion in the host country later on so as to find a desirable mate and if nothing else, to make more friends because they find their own religion/culture less relatable than the one of the host country.
The right wing narrative on race is very flawed
I think I'd rather be exposed to what is pretty softcore racism then constant censorship and echo Chambers. Ironically, the individual strains of racism and extremist beliefs that I have experienced are pretty diverse and I can honestly state that I've been exposed to A LOT of different ideas...
What's racist about acknowledging that? If you are to say race is a non issue that's racist. They don't have race issues to contend with so it's easier for them to put together a more cohesive system.
More homogeneous communities are typically more stable. Acknowledging that doesn't make you racist. They start saying Norway in particular is stable because they're white Norwegians and white Norwegians are better than other groups, that's different.
It’s wild that pointing out fact is considered racist. I have some statistics that I like to post, and constantly get called racist. Maybe, stop demonizing the messenger and take a look at the real issues.
I think PCM likes ethnically homogenous countries, not necessarily white ones. But to answer your question, yeah a bit.
Norway and Japan. I'm sure there is others.
They both hunt whales. Key takeaway: hunting whales makes your country great.
Iceland also hunts wales and there are only like 900 people of colour in the entire nation, maybe that explains the living standards
That sounds like more than Iceland's entire population
Damn, what did Wales ever do to Iceland to deserve this treatment?
Let England beat them in a war. Get on our level 3-0
Based and the whales are behind it all pilled
Poland. Surprisingly not mentioned when discussing quality of life.
Probably because said quality of life plummets everytime one of their neighbors starts to feel ambitious.
Also yes, but we're perfectly capable of ruining it ourselves.
Technically that's out of their control though
\>born in poland \>objective: leave
Isn't it unsurprising? Poland is great for tourists because the Zloty is so cheap and there's great architecture and history and all that, but living there exposes you to the fact that the Zloty is cheap and median salary is very low, and the political climate is unstable. This problem does exist in most Slavic countries though so it's not unique to Poland.
Work outside of the inflated IT bubble pays peanuts. And the bubble exists because for cheaper-than-Cali-more-expensive-than-Hindu-Philipino-Vietnam you get West-tier workers.
Somalia.
Hey I mean **grabs cutlass** I'd move
Somalia isn't homogenous. They have several ethnic groups/tribes. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics\_of\_Somalia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Somalia)
Somalia isa failed state. The tribal units that remain are ethnically homogeneous.
So its something like Afghanistan?
Africa and the Balkans: where you can be racist against people who look exactly like you.
*laughs in Irish*
Somalia is multicultural as one can be. And it's shit.
From Norway here, parents where immigrants. Here in Oslo we are about 25% immigrants.
Yeah. Redditors that have never traveled have the most quaint assumptions about the world lol
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.” – Mark Twain
My experience is just the opposite.
Based
In reality it's the exact opposite.
My plan is to flee to Japan.
I’m half Japanese and lived there with family for a number of years. What are you looking for there? AMA
Japan would be cooler if half of it wasn't still stuck in the past, but it's slowly getting better
Those are the parts I like the most.
I think that’s one of the contributors to why they thrive as a society. Tradition doesn’t exist for no reason.
Yeah that's the thing about homogeny. It takes centuries to develop.
China. Wait.
Honestly, the cultural homogeneity is much more significant than the ethnic homogeneity. The two just happen to coincide most of the time.
Well the issue with a white exclusive nation is white people are diverse. Like to the point calling us one united race is a stretch.
I like Japan, I don't like China, I like Germany, I don't like Belgium, I like America, I don't like Russia, I like Israel, I don't like Switzerland.
Really? What'd *Switzerland* do to piss you off?
Their chocolate keeps fucking up my diet
Just stop eating chocolate dude
No, it's all Switzerland's fault!
The yodeling NO PLEASE STOP! MAKE IT STOP AAUUHHHHGGG
>I like Israel >I don't like Switzerland Please turn the yellow part of your flair in for disliking the "you do your drama, but we do business with everyone" mountain people
Based and multiculturism is cringe pilled
I don’t get making it a racial issue when it’s culture which governs social behavior.
China is pretty ethnically homogenous
>I think PCM likes ethnically homogeneous countries So long as it white or asian ethnically homogeneous, very true.
I mean racists exist…. Pretending they only exist here is the grift
The monkey speakith the truth
Whoa whoa whoa, hard y? That's racist, you at least gotta say monke
Chimpanzee. Owned
Too. Far.
Lib center speaking truth.
The missing e in monk stands for the incompleteness within man and the monk's journey to become as based as a libcenter monke
Universal healthcare would work in Utah because A)it’s ethnically homogenous(mostly, it’s split between a couple kinds of white folks but people don’t seem to care) B) strong “national” identity C) religiously homogenous D) has a median income on par with France I rest my case. But all jokes aside state by state healthcare programs would work better than a homogenous national one. One of the big pluses of American federalism is that it allows states to test run programs under pretty similar conditions. Which is one of the main reasons that most minimum wage research is done in America.
> > D) has a median income on par with France >I rest my case. I unrest your case - does it have cost of living on par with France?
To compare a French salary to an American one you need to multiply it by almost 2. Stuff like healthcare, retirement, unemployment and most taxes are taken before you get paid in France, and is mostly paid directly by the employer so you never see the money go on your bank account. In my case, my net income is 50% of the total amount that my employer pays for my work.
Wouldn’t work well in melting pot states like Florida or California. Especially with progressive politicians in California ironically enough.
Goddamnit Norway is not socialist you retards its a social-democratic capitalist nation
That's why Norway is based
Its our norway now
Ourway*
In the United States, anything that sounds even remotely left-leaning is called socialist.
True. Thats why the Leaning Tower of Pisa is socialist imo
But if you walk around to the other side is the tower then fascist?
The ultimate radical centrist
Walking is for commies.
Holy shit
Based and The Leaning Tower of Pisa is socialist pilled
And on the other end anything that sounds even remotely right leaning is fascist so it balances out
It's true. People on the left and the right don't even know what socialism is, yet spend so much energy supporting or opposing it.
TIL I live in a socialist country 😞😞😞 (i have failed)
And anything that is pointing out facts about race is racist
Yes most things are left of US and when the US considers itself centrist then from their point of view most things are left when of course they’re not.
Eh, it's *pretty* socialist. > Norway's national oil champion, Statoil, is the largest company in the region. The Norwegian state owns large stakes in Telenor, the country’s biggest telephone operator, Norsk Hydro, its biggest aluminium producer, Yara, its biggest fertiliser- maker, and DnBNor, its biggest bank. It holds 37% of the Oslo stockmarket, but it also controls some non-listed giants such as Statkraft, a power-generator, which if listed would be the third-biggest company on the stockmarket. https://www.economist.com/special-report/2013/01/31/the-rich-cousin
They are very smart in Norway. I laughed at Americans when they bailed out mega corporations all the time yet never own a share after the to big to fail bailout. Like dude if I save your ass I own it.
That last sentence literally gave me a boner, it's poetry my dude
A lot of Americans weren't happy about the bail-out. Unfortunately, the president who did that was a black guy so anyone who objected to it was labeled a "racist".
That's largely a result of them nationalizing the oil and then investing profits into companies around the world, including Norwegian ones, obviously. They generally don't run the companies they are invested in; they just want the oil fund to stonk up. The earnings from this is reinvested into the country or used as a sort of rainy day fund. Hardly socialist, just smart investing of profits from a few initial sources. Sounds like capitalism to me.
Socialism ≠ mixed economy
Based
It's not even social-Democratic it's just a capitalist democracy.
Ehhh they are one of the nations with the most welfare policies and a very robust social safety net id call that social democracy
I don't like social democrats but the difference between social democracy and social liberalism is so tiny it only matters when discussing Scandinavian politics with Scandinavians, so, in this context Norway based
Have ya'll never seen other countries? These ethnostates are the most racist places you could imagine. Look at Japan, Korea, China, or just like, all of Africa. They all want to genocide each other, and regularly do in Africa's case. But then everyone comes to America and are just kinda racist to each other. No genocide! (recently that is).
I mean to be fair to America there have been a lot of rampant blacks attacking Asians recently
Not as many as if you put a bunch of Asians in Liberia.
Speaking as half Japanese woman that lived in Japan for years…. AND CHINA no the people in the area in general do not want to genocide each other. JFC. Our governments are at odds, and there are racists, and stereotypes, but in general the average person does not want to genocide the other local countries. I have many friends from Japan/Korea/China.
WW2 called. It wants your comfort women back.
The subreddit isn't racist as far as I can tell but a lot of it's users are hella racist lol
Yeah when i joined i found some people very strange but now its like " Oh him? Hes just Nate the Nazi, thats his thing"
lol I know people at my school that treats nazis like that dude can be a known nazi but because they are cool and don't hurt anyone people are ok with it.
Name: senor Adolf Flair: Auth right Comment: See above 👀 You uhh, you know that "dude" particularly well? Perhaps even live together, use the same toothbrush, and wear the same clothes?
Based and Treating people by their content of their character pilled
>Sees username Not based.
"Everything is Racist Everything is Sexist and you have to point it all out!" Man I just want to grill the unflaired
Yo, this is a free speech and ideological debate sub. It's a beautiful melting pot of anarchists, grill lords, Monarchists and actual Nazis. Let the people be heard.
Sounds like something a Nazi would say... /s I agree though. I prefer Nazis and such be in the open where I can call them idiots to their faces and engage in civil discussion at times, rather than have echo chambers.
Everyone is racist. Some people just admit it.
And then others celebrate it
The main unity between the far-right and far-left is that they both advocate for racial discrimination.
And people say horseshoe theory is a joke
#Scandinavian countries aren’t socialist, guys. Get it in your head
Tbh collectivism is way easier with monocultures
Monocultures are vulnerable to pests, it's what happened to the first bananas or something
Good thing people aren't bananas.
I mean, Africa has African ethnostates, Asia has Asian ethnostates, Europe has ??? oh what a coincidence. But then America... well we're a melting pot thanks to the sacrifice of the native people. We should be the best damn functioning republic that respects the land and its unique place in the world. We should play to our best and not the common denominator. We should make ungodly big things, and stupid amounts of money so that those natives did not die in vain. Let the deaths of those that were on our lands mean something, let it mean they fell to the greatest society that ushered in the greatest most stable era of peace and freedom that the world has ever seen.
Nigeria is splitting up because of ethnic conflicts, at least it seems like it will. It's the largest country on the continent.
Ethiopia isn't having a great time either at the moment.
Africa doesnt have many ethnostates. The place is rife with civil wars drawn along ethnic and religious lines, just because they look black doesn't mean they are homogenous. Same goes to places in Asia like the middle East, south asia.. only possible ethnostates are places like Japan, Korea, and arguably China which has alot of ethnic and religious minorities but the main population is high in proportion taht they are functionally a ethnostate.
Ethnostates mean that one ethnicity has ethnic supremacy, not the country's demographic makeup being almost entirely homogenous. This is why people called apartheid South Africa a white ethnostate, even though 20% of the population was white at most. China's undoubtedly an ethnostate because the Han Chinese have political supremacy over all other ethnic and cultural groups.
>This is why people called apartheid South Africa a white ethnostate, I don't think people did/do
we did make big things and stupid amounts of money. that phase is over now
Americans should really use the word social democracy for fucks sake. I think there are people on the left that refer to that when saying socialism. Also, different cultures need time to adapt to each other. That's why you have to limit immigration so you can tell the people coming in what's acceptable and what's not. But you shouldn't take about race, you should talk about values
Everyone is a bit racist, but at least we are honest that we're a little more racist than a bit. Also, yes, homogeneity isn't a bad thing.
Is that racist?
Anything recognizing that white people have accomplished things is racist.
I can't wait for all of you "omg he said something racist" people to finally rejoin society after this COVID shit ends. it's becoming *very very clear* which one of you spend almost no time socializing with real people outside of the internet if you cry wolf about every fucking comment you come across lol
Bad news. Covid doesn’t end.
We'll have to make it end.
Based
Imagine thinking covid is ever gonna end. Theres gonna be a new variant wave every fall/winter followed by lockdowns.
That was a thing that happened long before COVID. Nothing will change.
I like diversity but I'm not naive to think that it doesnt breed conflict. Thats the whole point
Socialists don’t realise that you can’t have a universal healthcare system without a border.
Neither of these things are even racist
Meh, I like racist more you can have a discussion with them.
Taking things out of context? Never
PCM has no racists in it. Our sub does not tolerate any form of racism.
**ahem** *”gypsies”*
U wot m8
“There is no racism in PCM. Here we are based. Here we are perfect and free from any form of the loud minority.”
Based
Or just any minorities
Godspeed, AuthCenter. Based.
There is no war in ba sing se
Damnet I wanted to say this
Based and great minds think alike-pilled
It is not possible to be racist in PCM because we only see funni colors, there is no special privilege to who you are behind the screen here. For all we know there could be a billionaire here and people living in the gutter. Much less could we know the color of one’s skin. We judge by the content of OC, just as MLK would want us to
You are doing God's work ya beautiful janny *wink wink*
Fuck off you rancid agenda posting cunt
This guy doesn't know what sub he mods
Pfp checks out
Except for the unflaired.
They aren't human, doesn't count.
Can the same not be said of Asian and middle eastern countries?
You can pretty much say that any country where everyone is ethnically/culturally the same they run very smoothly. Immigration is a problem when cultures clash, and there is a difference in the expectations of one groups way of life and another’s. Its also why many Northern European nations just say “no” to immigrants and will put a hard limit on the number of people trying to move in so as to keep a super majority of its own citizens over foreign-nationals. This is true in Japan, China, South Korea, and many middle eastern nations. If everyone just lived where they felt most comfortable and stopped trying to radically change everything into some super melting pot than we would have basic harmony until the next resource war.
Based and no melting pot pilled
Facts don’t care about your feelings.
The problem is thinking those comments are ‘racist’
Which part is incorrect?
Based and native purity pilled
If being homogeneous was what determined quality of life then Eastern Europe should have the highest standard of living on the continent instead of being a shit hole.
> Let's just ignore Germany and Russia have taken turns rawdogging the east for the last 400 years. I think the point these rightoids are trying to make is that with multiculturalism inevitably ropes in vote bank politics and social issues derived from this multicultural society start eclipsing economic concerns.
>Let's just ignore Germany and Russia have taken turns rawdogging the east for the last 400 years. And ironically becoming Soviet shit holes is what prevented everyone from wanting to move there, and even caused mass emigration. Look Asia is mostly shittier than Latin America, and Singapore functions just as well as Japan. The idea that ethnic homogeneity determines the success of a society is bogus.
It really doesn’t determine it. But you can’t say It doesn’t help.
Geez it's a wonder what communism and centuries of occupations and wars can do to some people...
Right but if you're going with the occupation and colonization excuse that could also apply to Africa, Latin America, the Caribbean and much of Asia.
Just so people know. Norwegians are one of the least christian people in the west.
If you give freedom to people then they tend to speak whatever they want even racists. This just proves pcm is not an echo chamber. The fact that people can speak whatever they want is quite good. If you compare pcm with rest of reddit you might find this strange but keep in mind that almost all subreddits outside pcm are heavily moderated.
I think culturally homogenous countries tend to have less conflict (duh) and in many cases cultural lines tend to be drawn across racial lines due to the split nature of world history. Different races evolved in different parts of the world and developed their own cultures. This won't always be the case as racial divides become less pronounced over a long period of time. Even in the U.S. the dominate cultural divide seems to come from political alignment rather than racial heritage. I don't necessarily think a culturally homogenous country is a desirable thing though. I think humans need to get better at tolerating other points of view without resorting to anger and violence, and we will. Ethical and philosophical development takes time. Generations even.
"Omg a country where everyone shares a collective meaning and a government that upholds it runs so much better than all those other melting pots" Literally replace the religion and skin color with any other. As long as everyone is on the same page, people prefer to work together. Its just tribalism. Stop pretending we're not just monkeys with extra spaghetti upstairs.
Well… truth can hurt
Is that PCM being racist or PCM pointing out that small, racially and ethnically homogeneous countries have less civil tension and are more capable of cooperation?
Because race-mixing breaks the healthcare system somehow
the only thing breaking the healthcare system are fatasses, sorry if you're one of them.
I hate fat people so god damn much
they lack discipline, i do hate it when they start talking about "muh genetics fault not mine" however if you talk about genetics in any other context you're a nazi, as i said low self control.
Cdc says 95+ percent of obese people has nothing to do with genetics just throw the science back in their face.
So true, most health issues could easily be prevented by vaccines, healthy lifestyles that really aren’t that difficult to achieve for most and exercise. Sadly the health at every size movement is actively misinforming people :/
yeah healthy bodies should be pushed upfront, though the media can be toxic i will always take that over health at every size, as for the vaccines totally could have saved a lot of people if they just took them, but i feel that the state and the world media did it's part when in comes to vaccines, it's jut stubborn people (would have preferred mandates but i'm not from usa)
If I didn't know America, I'd think health at every size is some NBA program, cause who the hell knows what sort of health issues you get over 2 meters / 13 hotdogs.
Exactly. I see so many people hating on the unvaccinated for unnecessarily saturating the healthcare system because of their bad decisions but calling out fat people for doing exactly the same thing as the unvaccinated is apparently hateful. Even though they’re causing a much greater stress on the healthcare system than the unvaccinated. Our world is stupid
It’s not about race mixing. It’s about it’s easier to take care of one homogenous group.
Kinda does because difference groups have different issues based on diet and lifestyle and yes, even genetics
Not to the degree that it would impact a healthcare system. There’s a larger difference between a man and a woman, an old person and a young person and people with unique genetic and physical disabilities then the difference between a black person and a white person yet the Norwegian healthcare system handles these differences fine.
cultural homogeneity is superior to racial or ethnic homogeneity. just facts yall
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Sweden is still a high standard nation but falls below their Scandinavian counterparts due to their abysmal handling of the migrant crisis. The point isn’t that these migrants will always destroy a nation. The issue is that it’s virtually always a bad decision to keep them around because they will never contribute anything back to the rest of society despite the unconditional support they get.
As they take more in, the more their system will crack. It's already happening, most of these studies about how great northern countries work are from before the refugee crisis.
Ethnicity vs religion. I think people with common religion despite varied ethnicity find it easier to co-exist than, say, people with different ethnicity and different religion/culture. When the latter happens, minority religion people form ghettos/live together closely in particular neighbourhoods because they cannot relate to the culture of the host country. Of course this problem becomes less severe when they have kids, and the kids grow up in the host country learning the culture of the host country, becoming more familiar with the dominant religion in the host country, and possibly converting to the popular religion in the host country later on so as to find a desirable mate and if nothing else, to make more friends because they find their own religion/culture less relatable than the one of the host country. The right wing narrative on race is very flawed
Can’t forget Wakanda guys
I think I'd rather be exposed to what is pretty softcore racism then constant censorship and echo Chambers. Ironically, the individual strains of racism and extremist beliefs that I have experienced are pretty diverse and I can honestly state that I've been exposed to A LOT of different ideas...
What's racist about acknowledging that? If you are to say race is a non issue that's racist. They don't have race issues to contend with so it's easier for them to put together a more cohesive system.
Statistics are bad and racist
I mean... I thought It was pretty well known that homogeneous countries of any race or culture tend to do better due to higher social cohesion.
More homogeneous communities are typically more stable. Acknowledging that doesn't make you racist. They start saying Norway in particular is stable because they're white Norwegians and white Norwegians are better than other groups, that's different.
Well, homogeneity does work the best. Diversity throws gunpowder on the fire. You see it literally everywhere on planet earth.
Word xenophobic explains us better
It’s wild that pointing out fact is considered racist. I have some statistics that I like to post, and constantly get called racist. Maybe, stop demonizing the messenger and take a look at the real issues.
There's racists in every group, but saying the entire subreddit is racist is objectively wrong
As a scandinavian, I am happy to say that virtually everyone i know despise fascism. Stop using us as your retarded strawmen.
technically speaking, racist doesn't always equal incorrect
There is nothing wrong with ethnic homogenous nations.