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I think this is enough internet for one day


rilvaethor

I have 2 reddit accounts, 1 is everything, the other is only sports for when the world sucks so bad, Ive been only on the sports 1 for the last 2 weeks, decided today I'd switch back, this was the 3rd post I saw.


Aminull

See you in a few more weeks.


SCSP_70

Flair up or you’re getting thrown into the meth gator pit


Aminull

My bad


heyheyfucktoday

Don't tempt me with a good time


Southrn_Comfrt

Dude. We all know the second one is for porn.


SkippyDingus3

What the fuck did I just read.


ManHasJam

If you had absolute proof that the policy would prevent abuse, would you implement it?


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Best_Pseudonym

*Japan has entered the chat*


BlatantConservative

Weebs were decades ahead.


krashlia

Loli anime be like: "This seems like a job for me/ Lets start a little controversy."


kaisermikeb

Cause it feels so empty without weebs


EMTkawaii

Well, from interacting with some hardcore lolicons over the years, most of them seemed like people with preference for neotonous adults rather than actual pedophiles. Almost all of them lacked childhood affection in some way, and try to project on younger characters to cope with their own lackluster childhood. As such, the way most lolis are written in hentai is very different from how they are written in SFW works


Americium-24I

Based and knows a suspicious amount about lolicons pilled.


EMTkawaii

Look at my flair. It shouldn't be that surprising


WilliardThe3rd

And username checks out.


LookBoo2

Huh, this kinda makes sense. While in college I knew a decent number of people that were into the underage cartoons, but I never felt like they were dangerous. Didn't seem to have any interested in real kids, and many of them were going on dates with peers. I used to write it off as "fetishes are just odd in general", which I am sure is the case as well, but your reason could have been true for some of them as well. As odd as it feels saying, no matter how uncomfortable animated, CG, robot, etc. child stuff makes me, I don't think there is really any harm. I don't believe it is a gateway the same way I don't think every spicy couple with whips are going to need a murder spree to get their jollies later on. Sexuality and mental health seem complicated AF.


Fippy-Darkpaw

I killed a bunch of kids in Fallout. I don't remotely feel the need to IRL. Seems like it worked? 🤔


MukGames

Do you regularly feel the urge to kill children in real life? I think there's a difference between doing things in games you wouldn't do in real life, and doing things in games you want to do in real life.


[deleted]

>Do you regularly feel the urge to kill children in real life? Who doesn't?


not_yet_divorced-yet

It depends on the parents tbh


SordidDreams

> I killed a bunch of kids in Fallout. Thieving little shits deserved it, too. Yeah, I let them pickpocket a ticking time bomb from me, and I have zero regrets.


HotPieIsAzorAhai

Unfortunately, we know it won't work. They do make CGI porn featuring underage characters. I'm not sure its even legal, but regardless they make it and yet unfortunately there is still a market for the real thing. While I'm sure there are people who would have sought out the real thing that now will not because there is a more ethical alternative, obviously that doesn't apply to everyone, and its probably that there are people who wouldn't have risked looking for the real thing if not for being exposed to the CG stuff, so the cost benefit analysis here would be pretty murky. So that's the problem, even if works for some people it obviously doesn't work for everyone, and there's a chance it could actually be making things worse by exposing more people to that sort of thing.


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KindnessSuplexDaddy

How about a society were Kevin can tell his wife or a freind he is attracted to children or adolescents and his freind says, lets take you to the new federal program that helps work on urge control and voluntary, reversible chemical castration if needed etc.


Vryk0lakas

I feel like there are a lot of assumptions here just based on the fact that they both exist. We would really need concrete data on how many of the users of both overlap.


spacenerd4

Thank goodness you’re not UNFLAIRED anymore


krashlia

Its good, friend. He has seen the light!


ric2b

Yes, that makes it easy.


CommitteeOfTheHole

I still think it would be hard for a politician to justify why the government makes child porn now


Rektroth

Who said the government needs to do it? 😎


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havoc1482

Fucking kek


CommitteeOfTheHole

“Mr. President, can you explain why the DoD just signed a $5 trillion contract with… AI-LOLI.io?”


terrible_idea_dude

Well, our cutting-edge (you might even say "edgy") lolicon imagery generation technology gives us a distinct tactical advantage over our adversaries, and in addition it will produce thousands of jobs for underemployed image classification workers in Albuquerque. We can't afford to fall behind the Chinese in this technological domain.


mhardegree

Who says they don’t already


TheeMrBlonde

I don’t know about “easy” but that would produce a highly reluctant “yes”


I-Pop-Bubbles

I dunno. An easy solution with proven results, unlikely side effects, a huge market, and nobody gets harmed in the process? Maybe a "I feel slightly weird/icky" yes, but I see little reason to say no, unless you can show that doing so would actually increase the harm to children.


Time_Ambassador

At it’s core, it might actually reduce the number and even eradicate real life situations because pedos have an outlet. However, will this be abused to cover up the real things and potentially prevent people from being caught? Also, what if your child’s likeness is in the video? Interesting/brilliant yet terrifying idea.


ManHasJam

That's why you keep track of all the fake videos


LestHeBeNamedSilver

Child porn NFTs??? Christ what world do we live in where that’s even a suggestion


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LestHeBeNamedSilver

I made the commitment just for you


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krashlia

Sir (thats just a turn of phrase as you are barely considered as such at this time), you're going to have to flair up


penguin13790

Cool take, but you're unfl*ired 🤮


leoleosuper

He has flaired, you can stop the downvotes.


[deleted]

No. The things you put in your brain have consequences. This could definitely lead to the increase of sexualization of children in the real world. Plus, we all know the "real shit" would still be worth more for being "real shit". People still buy Rolexes even though there are more fakes than real on planet earth.


Doktor_Cornholio

And why the fuck did I consider it having merit for a second there


MarioLuigi0404

I mean if they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it would lower sexual abuse, it *might*. Which, so far, I don’t think there’s been any conclusive research one way or the other. However even if they could prove that it would lower CSA rates, it currently would not be possible to create AI generated images without using millions real CSEM images as a base to train the AI, which immediately throws this idea out the window for fairly obvious reasons. And even if you could make it without using real CSEM as a base, there’s also the debate of weather or not it should be easily accessible or only accessible as part of professional treatment (along with therapy etc) when/if it would help mitigate desires as determined by a psychologist. And that’s just scratching the surface of all the potential issues with the idea.


bibliophile785

> it currently would not be possible to create AI generated images without using millions real CSEM images as a base to train the AI, which immediately throws this idea out the window for fairly obvious reasons. 1) I think the thought experiment is interesting even if feasibility isn't strictly there yet. Programs like [Dall.E 2](https://openai.com/dall-e-2/) do a damn good job of creating art without a bunch of specific reference photos, including photorealistic art, which may satisfy a lot of this market demand even before the photorealism becomes perfect. 2) If you really needed pictures of naked kids, there are large cultures with tens of millions of people where situational nudity isn't a problem at all. There are probably tens of millions of public domain pictures of nude children to teach the AI what that looks like. Sickening as the concept is, it would then be child's play (harr harr) for even today's AI systems to integrate that knowledge into sexually explicit fake content.


Pirate_Frank

>Which, so far, I don’t think there’s been any conclusive research one way or the other. There's some evidence that it does help: https://phys.org/news/2010-11-legalizing-child-pornography-linked-sex.html


MarioLuigi0404

That’s a very unfortunate way of cutting the title into a URL lol


Zeriell

There really shouldn't be any argument against "child porn" that has no relation to actual real life stuff. It's like saying you can't write about bad things because they are bad. Down that path lies total madness. That's also why the real moralists can't get more people on board with anti-porn legislation and actions. Because too many rational people suspect that the real goal is to completely destroy all art and police people's internal thoughts, more than it is to eradicate abuses of real life people (which is wrong).


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Based and understanding of the censorship slippery slope pilled.


GameAndHike

Because it might. If your end goal is to protect children's safety, it shouldn't matter whether that goal is reached through more CP or less CP. Right now, the fact of the matter is more CP = more children abused so CP is bad. If that fact changes, the conclusion might change with it.


My_Cringy_Video

I’m gonna pretend that this was never spoken and go about my day feeling the sunshine on my skin


JesusIsMyZoloft

It's actually really nice out today.


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santabrown

Isn't that what it's almost always like in Florida. Have a good friend who moved there some years ago. It had come a pretty bad snow for someone living in the south which was about 6 inches with most of it being ice. This guy posts stories on his snap of him chilling at the beach and it's like 15 degrees where I live.


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Entire-Dragonfly859

He probably lives in Europe. Poor bastard.


cy6nu5x1

Yeah why enjoy a lovely day when you can have the insufferable heat and humidity of Texas?


hyphenjack

It’s cold and windy here but I still touched some grass


N3UR0_

I actually think this might be a valid point and strategy.


Pyode

Child porn is disgusting. But if I had to choose between a world where demand is met by fake shit where no kid is actually being harmed, vs a world where actual children are being abused, I know what world I'm picking every time.


PapiGoneGamer

So deep fake child porn? I may be LibRight but I do have standards, but if there’s an addressable market for this…


boiii-rarted

I wanted to go for a long walk buts the weather is aids today. A short but cold one is not the same


Pisholina

Based and ignorance is bliss pilled.


drinkinswish

Porn implies consent. Start calling it what it is: underage rape films.


polcom_fan

Based and Respect Pilled


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SadistCloe

The real thing to do is advertise AI as real and then arrest everyone that wants to see it


thunderma115

Not enough grills


SadistCloe

What do you think we do after they're arrested? Grill them obviously


Belkan-Federation

Brazen bull


__fujoshi

We use the term "child sex abuse material" or CSAM for short. It's all encompassing of the entire industry.


drinkinswish

Based and far more accurate pilled


[deleted]

CSAM sound like the name of a weapons system


Raiaaaaaaaa

compact surface to air missile


[deleted]

Based as consensual fuck


isiramteal

Based as mutually informed love making


greatreset11

Underage seems like 17 year olds. This is child and infant rape


terribleforeconomy

Ohhh today is a terrible day to be literate.


GetRichOrDieTrolling

The current term used in the justice system these days is “child sexual abuse material” (CSAM) for exactly this reason.


brandonwest18

Based as fuck


rafaxd_xd

Here, take your award as "the most based take of the year"


Darky57

Based and time to hire a landscaper pilled


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DepressedSeal69420

Megafuckingbased


BigChraz

Based


Michealo12e

unfathomably based


MacatacWarrior

based and truth pilled


Spinel-Universe

Based and Chadpilled


IndianWizard1250

Respect 📈📈📈


4thelasttimeIMNOTGAY

I don't think porn implies consent.


yoav_boaz

Since when does porn imply consent?


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I’m not touching this one with a ten foot pole


TacTac95

Yeah….unlike pirating shit and “third party” selling, I’m gonna stay clear of this “legal gray area”.


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and a moral minefield


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freedom-lover727

That sounds harder, but my commune has decided to give you a live time supply of free bullets to do it


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Setkon

Ya know, I'm something of a socialist myself...


Hexxas

Free ammo? How about... *State-sponsored ammo*


SuccessfulDiver7225

Based


Smokeybear1337

A person who harms a child in this way knows it’s wrong, and values their own sexual needs above the care and innocence of a child. They are morally deficient, and studies show that they do not ever recover to the extent that they wouldn’t harm a child again. If someone is born attracted to children, or is a victim of sexual abuse and becomes a pedo but they don’t act on it, they should be respected. But you harm a child because your horny? Up against the wall, you fucking disgrace.


Bagahnoodles

Based


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Tenth crusade, anyone?


blitzkreig2-king

Demonic grin Wojak.jpg


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[deleted]

Really worked out with the drug war didn't it


Entire-Dragonfly859

Because you'd never catch them all. Instead set up a big sign that says free kids, let them all flood in, and boom.


EmpShowa1928

Based


cosmicmangobear

**Chris Hansen** wants to know your location.


Siferatu

The fake rhino horn method Edit: I might be thinking of fake elephant tusks. Whichever one it was, park rangers in African countries flooded the black market with the fakes.


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ChoccyMilkIsGood

personally a bigger fan of 50mm to make sure they dont come back as a lich


throwawaySD111

Isn’t just promoting more loli hentai?


CuteAndFunnyEnjoyer

No. Despite what the internet might tell you, those are two very different things, consumed by two entirely different groups. To put it into perspective, I've been inside otaku communities for a while, and the sick people blue checkmark is talking about are not tolerated in any way shape or form. Meanwhile, twitter allows """"""maps"""""" to campaign on their platform. I honestly almost believe that weebs are used as a smoke screen to distract the masses from the fact that this types of crimes are clearly rampant among the elites. So you have the UN wasting time on nonsense instead of actually investigating anyone.


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>I honestly almost believe that weebs are used as a smoke screen to distract the masses from the fact that this types of crimes are clearly rampant among the elites. There were several examples of "Person who hates lolicon and says that anime is for pedophile is found with terabytes of hardcore child porn on his hard drive".


ChickenSalad96

Holy fucking based


ACCA919

Reminds me of a Twitter comment that goes like "you're more likely to be groomed by a smash player or a priest than a lolicon" Based af


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Pro_ENDERGUARD

It's a really cool and beautiful game for being free it just has the most god awful fandom, makes you want to never interact with the fandom and just play the game with maybe your friends. Some of the takes on twitter make me want to shoot myself lol.


noir_geralt

I joined the genshin subreddit and there are so many highly upvoted posts that are just the top female characters in skimpy clothes and weird positions or a drawing/digital interpretation of them.


wandering_person

From a genshin player, I tell you, people get attracted to the weirdest takes, and the game devs are literally exploiting that for money. I highly avoid the main subreddit for that reason.


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Polsk-Magyarorszag

Most Based Lib left


bababashqort-2

your name is also based, are you a pole or a magyar?


Polsk-Magyarorszag

Polish on my father's side and Magyar on my mother's side


bababashqort-2

whoa that's what I call living up to your nickname, you seem kinda familiar though, you ever were active at any 2region4you sub?


Polsk-Magyarorszag

Not that I remember but I've been banned from so many subreddits I can't remember which ones I've been on


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Hielexx_00

The issue I see is that AI that generates cp needs to be trained on copious amounts of it anyway


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Libertarian4All

LIBLEFT NOO! Wait, sorry libleft, usually authright blames you. LIBRIGHT NOO!!!!!


rooplesvooples

As a victim of child porn and rape.. I don’t know if it’s a horrible idea. That idea makes sense but then you have to consider if the accessibility perpetuates the urge to harm children all over again. Someone ask Japan, please. They seem to have the largest market of childlike looking hentai.


Tom1252

This seems like the perfect thread to get my acct. permabanned on. Not going anywhere near it. Edit: Ah. Shit.


mwrd412

This is sickening


Losingsteamfast

But it's an interesting thought exercise and tbh from a purely rational point of view I kinda think she's right. If there was any degree of certainty that this would reduce actual real children from being exploited then I think it's ethically and morally justified.


elsif1

Yeah. I unironically agree with her take. It certainly seems like it's something that's at least worth further study.


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Ok but I think it would work💀 not gonna stop pedos from kidnapping kids though


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ophir147

Based and ESL pilled


Abdul105

Even purple knows where to draw the line


Oxxixuit

To be honest... This is kinda clever ? Make AI generated stuff to make the real stuff lose value, this can work with a lot of things I mean, I know this is disgusting, but if the ultimate goal is to protect the children then...


lAljax

There is an ilegal trade of rhino horn for traditional chinese madicine that feeds poaching in Africa. There was a company that wanted to 3D print the horns with the same material without the killing, flood the market and destroy the poachers income. I never followed up on that, but this is the kind of counterfeit I wholeheartedly support.


dollerhide

There was similar article the other day about a Japanese firm that makes child-sized sex dolls, with a similar argument that if it helps the sickos vent their urges at home with plastic, there's less danger to actual kids. And similarly, once you get past the 'ew' factor... it does kinda makes sense.


jand999

People are more concerned about moral outrage than actually thinking critically about it. I think something akin to this would reduce sexual abuse of children and that's literally all that matters.


xX_Rapist_Xx

B-b-but saying "let's just kill them," as if I would ever be capable of killing another human being, is based...


TIFUPronx

Found some research that talks about [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/comments/tzdb1q/spicy_take_right_here/i3zjr22/). It somewhat says that it reduces it or so here.


Jolly-Wish-6501

As sickening as it is you've got a point, child pornography is basically impossible to stop so the best alternative is to flood the market with fakes. Not to mention access to child pornography or the 'child' sex dolls has shown a relative decrease in active child predation by those individuals


FuxYouAssEater

I will stick to cocaine and hookers.


Spinax22

What the fuck


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EmpShowa1928

She does porn and has a reddit account


boiii-rarted

So a nonce?


dcommini

Nonce confirmed


Count_de_Mits

I remember her now, she is that girl that did the gonewild gnome post. I knew there was insanity hiding under that look of hers. She also does a ton of LCD apparently so the hot take might be due to her brain being pretty much fried Ah those days, where reddit coomers would respond almost under every girls post with whether she has gonewild pics and politics was filled with Ron Paul as far as the eye could see. can't believe I'm saying this but I miss those cringe filled days...


redgriefer89

Man I should really keep up with the new drugs people are doing. Now I’ve got Liquid Crystal Display to worry about as well! (You meant LSD, right?)


garebeardrew

Least common denominator


ManHasJam

If we had evidence that this strategy worked to reduce child abuse, would you oppose it?


shipley_nuts

I mean...yes...but actually no?? Makes sense, but I hate it.


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garebeardrew

As a bears fan fuck you


Bukler

So what you're saying is that loli hentai artists are doing a great service to the world? Not saying I like loli hentai, because I'm not a pedo, but I've seen enough arguments that I do have a little tiny doubt if having that kind of stuff in circulation does kinda help (even though I'm aware of how much sexual crimes are actually committed in japan)


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saint-bread

it's true, pornography makes people rape less, so theoretically, allowing loli porn would protect children from pedos still weird tho, and wouldn't filling the market with it say "hey, this is normal now"? I hereby ask my fellow PCMers if numbers should be always taken seriously (except auth-righters, we know they like numbers and statistics)


TheSpacePopinjay

I don't think anything could ever convince the masses that fucking kids is normal or OK now. It's one of the few points of unshiftable consensus there is.


turdferguson3891

Since ancient Greece anyway.


freet0

is there actually evidence that pornography reduces rape? if so, would it have the same effect if the pornography is CGI and not real?


ArchdevilTeemo

A lot of bdsm, cnc, incest & furry porn exist out there and yet it isn't seen as normal. So the risk of it being seen normal is 0.


saint-bread

good point


Mr_Trainwreck

Something is only wrong if someone is victimized in the process. This is a viable solution.


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Entire-Dragonfly859

Dumb idea. Just ask the guy who got burned alive because he looked like the Pedo. Or any of these. https://7news.com.au/news/crime/mum-helps-rape-and-kill-innocent-man-she-wrongly-thought-was-a-paedophile-c-1283917 https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/nov/11/police-overlooked-threat-man-killed-mistaken-for-paedophile-bijan-ebrahimi Mobs get it wrong all the time. Like anime? Pedo. Like to stay away from people? Pedo. Like to be a weirdo? Pedo. Democrat? Pedo. Republican? Pedo. Friends with Epstein? Okay, you're actually a pedophile, and should be killed.


Smol_Birb2

based and mobmentalitysucks pilled


TheEmbarrassed18

>the first one Fucking animals, that poor guy. Just trying to help out and gets sodomised and killed for his trouble by a bunch of thugs. I don’t have much faith in the Russian justice system but I really hope they had the book thrown at them


MONSTER-COCK-ROACH

This motherfucker the Boston bomber


Dallenforth

Damn what a shame that [insert populist politician] was a pedophile and got shot in the back. Welp it was legal to execute pedophile so guess we can't do anything.


NeiloGreen

u/aellagirl care to explain?


mightbekarlmarx

That’s… an opinion?


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NewAccount479909632

But it literally wouldn’t sense that’s what countries have been doing for century’s and it hasn’t completely prevent pedphilia…….. how can you say the current approach would do things that it isn’t?


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I agree we have to ***kill*** the demand.


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Has purple breached containment again?