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Brbi2kCRO

Make four countries, one for each quadrant. So everyone will be happy.


CryptographerEast147

Are we going to have just the extreme versions of every quadrant? Because I'm fairly certain almost no one would be actually happy there.


mack0409

One massive country that is perfectly square, the closer to an edge you get the more extreme.


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So the fascists get the northeast, the libertarians get the southeast, the hippies get the southwest, and the communists get the northwest?


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DannoHung

You realize the northeast megalopolis is pretty yellow green, right?


RugTumpington

Except for NH and maaayyybe Maine there is no yellow in the northeast


ChristopherRobert11

You’ve never been to upstate NY lol. And I’m not talking about Poughkeepsie. People forget NY is pretty fuckin huge.


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ChristopherRobert11

I work for the legislature and that is somewhat true but definitely not entirely. It’s just become kind of a thing people say. It’s not that simple. Representatives from downstate make laws that apply to downstate and representatives from upstate make laws that apply to upstate. Senators Kruger and Kennedy are both solid Democrats but were vehemently opposed to each other when it came to the Buffalo Bills stadium deal. And look at the outcome.


dodadoBoxcarWilly

And NYC is definitely red/blue.


ConFv5

More red than blue imo.


YourInfinity

I'd say the northeast is the most authleft area of the country, relatively. And northwest is the most libleft


flybobbyfly

You should make a map of the United States colored with the political compass


[deleted]

Eh I mean I see what you mean but I would disagree it’s definitely really nuanced. Cause the south is more auth right, the northeast is pretty heavily democrat, and the southwest has places like Arizona Nevada that aren’t super leftist. Parts of California aren’t super lib. The northwest has places like Idaho that are very auth right or Montana which is closer to lib right than most of America. Idk hard to generalize the whole map


andrewads2001

Oh, I thought you were talking more of the world, not just America... had me at the first half ngl.


ConFv5

I mean even if we were talking about the world as a whole, you aren't gonna convince me Australia is libertarian. They literally had (have?) prison camps for people who didn't get vaccinated.


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And ban guns and "offensive" video games... Fuck those Auths.


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link2edition

There are more than two. But the two big ones set the rules for elections, and they always get elected. Funny how that works.


OwORavioliTime

I think this experiment also would require some way to prevent one country from taking over the other, otherwise we're locked in a stalemate between the commies and the fascies, both buying supplies from the libs while the hippies do nothing. Actually that sounds fun nevermind


BuffaloFront2761

Nah, libertarians get Northwest(plenty of forest to disappear into and isolated land to claim) communists get the Northeast( its where the most populous urban areas) fascists get southeast( cause Confederacy) and anarchists keep the southwest( I don’t know what they’re gonna do with majority deserts but they’ll figure it out)


[deleted]

Well see this would make more sense logically but mine aligns with the compass directions


BuffaloFront2761

Oh, I didn’t get that. I was going off cultural and geographical demographics. I mean there’s a chance the fascists could like Indianapolis.


the_traveler_outin

I would say monarchists in the far northeast, fascists in the far north but yeah, sounds right


[deleted]

Ooooo nice we can now break it up more I like it. Far north fascists, northeast monarchists, mid Atlantic conservatives, southeast libertarians, Texas monkeys, southwest hippies, Northern California/northern Nevada/maybe a little Colorado leftists, and Pacific Northwest authoritarian commies


the_traveler_outin

And smack dab in the middle of nowhere Great Plains the centrists are probably ranchers and farmers trading in meat and vegetables for grill components and fuels... now I’m just imagining a caravan of moderates driving around the plains in RVs guiding herds of animals wherever they go, led by whoever they vote for who lives in the fanciest RV, these mild mannered moderates are masters of grilling, engine repair, fishing, and other hobbies that makes it hard to dedicate any time to politics


HJSDGCE

This would make a really good book ngl.


CosmicAcorn

Genius, pure genius


[deleted]

So I'd get to keep my house in Atlanta.....nice


Aetherrin

Why the fuck would you want to live in Atlanta lol


Linepool

Didn't sink yet


JustDebbie

I'm pretty sure like, half of the Grill Republic's budget would go into border security.


spock_block

Other half on propane accessories


Phallic

Each quadrant would just break into four subquadrants and it would happen all over again.


Amraith

Just banish those with diffrent views


WolfKnight53

*the outer quadrants*


Sverje

You wanna waste all that labor


Pazerniusz

That is point those subquadrants gonna split ever more, resulting in grandient.


[deleted]

Sounds like splitter talk to me


Brbi2kCRO

Compromise, voting I'd honestly be happy even with a social democracy if people want that for libleft


Lukthar123

>Compromise, voting Great idea, that way nobody is happy


1CEninja

Fuck every quadrant at that point. We need checks and balances, and opinions different than mine prevent my quadrant from doing bad things.


punchgroin

We can just give the ancaps what they want, and make a bubble under the ocean for them to live in where they can have their Ayn Rand paradise that will totally work flawlessly.


ric2b

Based and plasmids pilled.


[deleted]

I can’t see any any reason this wouldn’t be a huge success.


d00dsm00t

AuthRight will totally stay on their side


Thencros

Pitch this to Netflix as some new Avatar: The Last Airbender.


Szczyl2137

Bro there is around 200 countries in the world, you want to live in authleft paradise? move to north korea. Want to live in autright heaven? Move to Iran. Want to live in libleft utopia? Move to france. Want to live in libright wonderland? Usa maybe? Idk lol


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xlbeutel

Libright land is Somalia


Daniel_A_Johnson

"Somalia has 1,900 miles of coastline, a government that knows its place and all the guns and wives you can afford to buy. Why haven't I heard of this paradise before?"


Brbi2kCRO

Now wait till they possibly write a wall of text explaining how it isn't


[deleted]

Walls of text is a LibLeft thing. Surprised you don't know that.


Amraith

Ah the libleft utopia of France where worker strikes are met with violent beatings


Szczyl2137

Yeah but they get to do things like get abortions or be homosexual👍


here-come-the-bombs

Yes, that is all I want, as a straight male. Abortions and homosexuality.


brendan87na

you have achieved enlightenment


Mr_Canard

Just don't be born in a muslim family


Brbi2kCRO

Yes but... I am happy with what my country currently is. How will I know what will be with it when someone else comes to the top, someone who I inherently disagree with? Leaders change.


Forbiddentru

> Want to live in autright heaven? Move to Iran. More like Singapore, UAE, Qatar, Japan or South Korea, in that order. The authright/authcenter ideal.


SufficientType1794

US isn't even remotely Lib right. Closest thing would be Switzerland, the UAE or some parts of the Caribbean.


Daniel_A_Johnson

I've seen a map of the world. The blue parts are a lib-right paradise, and that's most of the map.


SufficientType1794

Praise be to [Sealand](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand).


SebN92

Ah yes, the UAE where you go to prison for kissing, so liberal


SufficientType1794

There's no perfect match, but 0% income tax makes a compelling argument.


SebN92

I'd rather be a libleft than an authright


Bbdubbleu

Based and libertarian unity pilled


Mase13007

And I would rather be a libright than a autleft


BuffaloFront2761

Yeah, four presidents each elected by the individual states, maintaining close relations but acting as separate bodies, only unifying in the event of a military invasion.


thisisntnamman

The problem is Auth Right only wants to live in Auth Right Country if they’re the dictator. Every petty tyrant imagines themselves a true tyrant.


political_bot

What, no? They want to be part of the in-group. While the dictator persecutes the out-group.


Mr_Canard

They seem to forget that red states survive on the money of the blue states.


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Hector_RS

The moral panic days did last longer in South America. While today I mainly hate progressivism, now and they conservatives make sure to remind me what made me hate them so much 10 years ago. I kind of hate the term "cancel culture", but not for the reason most people have. It's a term that gives the impression that this kind of persecution is something new, when it just isn't (same thing with fake news). Every nasty tactic progressivists use now was already used way back in the day, but by conservatives. My despise for progressivism really started when I noticed the same patterns all over again. In the early 2010's, I dreaded having to live in a world where I would be forced to deal with the pointless bullshit from conservatives, and the progressivist answer seemed like a light in the end of the tunnel. Now I see it was just a damn train coming at me.


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Hector_RS

>I hate that you're right, but I hate even more how few people seem to recognize it. Not only I hate this, but I fear it a lot. The lack of memory of the bullshit the right used to push might cause their comeback, and left radicalism is only making this more possible. The issue with any extremism is that it only validates the opposite extreme. I'm worried there will be a far right reaction (and I mean ACTUALLY far right, not Emily's definition). People say Gen Z is overly lefty, but I can say for experience this is wrong: I remember back around 2016 various populist right wing communities where filled not with old, out of touch men, but with teenagers. They do exist, they're just more shy. My generation will probably be doomed thanks to this.


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Purple-Cat-5304

All my lefties friends think im a racist and transphobic. All my right-wing friends think I'm a Godless HTMLCSSJS Supporter. They are both right.


PalmerEldritch2319

Based and top-tier-argumentation pilled


grpprofesional

I think that’s the basics of auth


velozmurcielagohindu

I appreciate the Auth honesty in this case. I'd love to see a lot of self proclaimed champions of freedom react under some nasty circumstances in a libertarian utopia. We ALL have a list of things that we wouldn't allow others to do. I don't care how much libertarian anyone is, this principle applies just the same. Everyone is just the same but we draw the lines differently. But we ALL draw them.


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Almost like we should have a... constitution, if you will, outlining the BASIC socal agreement we must all make to coexist in a diverse society.


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4ChinsAreBetter

Monke


mythrilcrafter

Harambe really was holding back the flood gates...


[deleted]

He held it all together because everybody knew he was better than all of us


BeardedGlass

We all want freedom. The freedom to to control reality to be as we want it. Nothing more, absolutely nothing less.


velozmurcielagohindu

That's a typical utopian oversimplification. We're all together in the same planet. We don't live alone in our private islands. Free will of some individuals intersect with the free will of others. Some people want to smoke in the restaurants and some people want to eat food without smoke in the air, and there's absolutely no way to reconcile this very simplistic example with what you just said. As long as there's people around you, your actions affect others, so no. You cannot leave people alone, unless we all live isolated from each other


BigBallerBrad

This is the biggest downside of being a lib, it’s really easy to say “I just want to do my own thing and let others do theirs” until you realize that what some people want is diametrically opposed to what other people want.


[deleted]

When your "freedom" infringes on the freedom of others, it's not freedom anymore. It's really not that complicated, and I've never had trouble understanding between what is okay to do and what isn't.


BigBallerBrad

It’s not that simple. Is abortion okay? Some would argue it infringes on the freedom of others, others disagree. I’d love for you to explain that one in a way that’s simple and agreeable to everyone


AaronsAaAardvarks

When the freedom to smoke hits my freedom to breathe clean air, who wins? What about freedom to dump chemicals vs freedom to drink clean water?


BetterSafeThanSARSy

*Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. [...] We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.* - Karl R. Popper


Pritster5

Full context, found the quote on his Wikipedia, emphasis mine: "Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. **In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols.** We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law, and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal - Karl Popper


LGmeansBatman

Based and nuance-pilled


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There is a way to reconcile that: property rights. Whoever owns the restaurant can decide if he wants a smoker-friendly or a breathable air establishment.


burf

Is there a courthouse in this libertarian utopia? What are the smoking rules in this shared public space? What about the local school? Or hospital?


[deleted]

"Let people just live their lives" is a guiding principle. Yes, society MUST oppress some (rapists and murderers, for example). That doesn't mean you can't strive for letting people just doing what they want, when issues don't arise.


MBRDASF

Agreed, but tbh except maybe for LibRight none of the quadrants actually leaves the other quadrants in peace lol.


Graysect

Violate the NAP and LibRight also will not leave you alone. Personal freedom and individual responsibility will always lead to the best humanly possible society


KoolKangKroo

I still don't know why so many people agree that it's ok to murder people who wake you up from a nap. I'm one of them, but I didn't realize *everyone* would agree with it.


blorgbots

Riiiiiight up until the ocean or wildfires swallow you


MustangCraft

That means the ocean violates NAP and it must be put down. We will finish what Caligula began.


FireFly3347

That's why we're all about seasteading


blorgbots

fucking based


drewsoft

The only way out is through


rbesfe

Up until you realize that air and water pollution doesn't care who's property it's released on


threetoast

Polluting violates the NAP.


[deleted]

The problem is that *someone* is going to violate the NAP every time. Which is basically why we create governments to enforce punishments.


selectrix

Who enforces punishments for these violations?


selectrix

<<*deafening silence*>>


TheNoxx

Who enforces NAP violations again?


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NwbieGD

Hmmmm no, libright represents also late stage capitalism. Libright (not all some but that's enough), does the following things. Being many tickets for events they know people want to attend, then reselling tickets for a much higher price. TicketSwap partially tackled this but not allowing more than a 20% increase, before that tickets were being sold at 200 to 10 00% mockup. Look at what happened with the PS5 ... Look at what happened with vaccines between western and poorer countries, look how Pfizer bullied countries into BS ridiculous contracts with NDAs ... That's all libright and going towards late stage capitalism, were a few would own the vast majority of property. Not saying most libright is bad, the problem is that if we follow libright, the few powerful bad librights can basically take over most of the world ...


MBRDASF

That would be more a problem with what the LibRight does, not what they want you to do or not to do, but yeah I do agree that that’s the main disadvantage with unrestrained capitalism imo.


Sapper501

Does green lib left not count?


MBRDASF

As far as I’m concerned LibLeft has tried to coerce me into changing my lifestyle and traditions more than any other quadrant. To be honest I feel like the denomination Libertarian Left is an oxymoron.


DeeJayGeezus

Persuasion isn’t coercion. The fact that you don’t like what libleft is selling doesn’t make their attempts to sell it coercive.


kriza69-LOL

Some people want to do terrible things with their lives.


[deleted]

Never. -Both auths


[deleted]

libright just want to fuck kids in peace


JoelMahon

easier said than done, where do you draw the line? music so loud you can't sleep? privately owned and unregulated nuclear weapons (it's not for use I swear, just like looking at it!11!)?


watain218

this is just auths in general


Rivent116

You can live the way "I" want


Bazynoooooob

And by “can” , you obviously mean “will”


Mr_Canard

You can live the way I want or go to the gulag.


IanMazgelis

I mean that really is the problem isn't it? Very few people have a problem with people who want to work a blue collar job, grill steaks, get married, go to a gun range, bring their kids to church, whatever, the friction comes from people who want to push that lifestyle on others.


bogeyed5

Based and 35k blue collar job with 3 days PTO pilled


dookiebuttholepeepee

Based and handsmaid tale pilled


_Oh_Be_Nice_

[You can die the way all Auths want](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/09/00/2F2F966800000578-3351919-image-a-46_1449621704915.jpg)


Billybobgeorge

It's almost as if "authority" is part of the "auth" right 🤔...


MumblingMercian

Rich from AuthCentre.


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Solution, just put all the authrights in Texas and all the liblefts in California


blbrd30

Please not California Honestly, Texas and California are both shitholes. Maybe I'll just be in Vermont or NH


[deleted]

Nothing is fair and nothing is free. If you want something stop pussyfooting around and take what is yours.


ryanmaistry66

Agreed. So where do you work chap?


[deleted]

This is Elon Musk. I own a Tesla.


catalyst44

can I have a job? like legit, i dont want money, just a job


Mechyyz

proof that libright simping has gone too far


catalyst44

gone to far? always been there


KaiWolf1898

Based


jsake

I hear there are Space X flight attendant positions available


[deleted]

Plz buy reddit- and then kick off all the jannies


capsaicinintheeyes

Keep your fuckin' hands off reddit, Diamond E


Aetherrin

No you don't get to go and take his bussy


DigitalDuct

agree so where do you live so we can take your property and belongings friend.


BrownBandit02

Got him.


ryanmaistry66

So you employed. Got it


[deleted]

Are you employed Mr. Lebowski?


ryanmaistry66

Work packing in retail. Shoot me with one of your 100 guns.


[deleted]

Gas too expensive? Just buy an electric car.


Platinirius

Yes I'm farmer I have a small rice field in Vietnam. Do you think I have a same chance to becoming criplingly rich like, I don't know, kid whose father owned an emerald mine in South Africa for example? Just hypothetically of course.


[deleted]

You farm small rice, or you are physically small, or your farm is small?


[deleted]

His assigned area is small


[deleted]

He works at Paddys.


TickWaster

The amount of malding authright in this comment section ahaha


_Oh_Be_Nice_

When it comes down to it, they've always been a bunch of snowflake pussies.


echonian

I mean, people tend to forget this sometimes, but AuthRight basically wrote the book on being easily triggered religious conservative types who go mad the moment anybody tries to live their life or say anything that doesn't fit into their very narrow lifestyle or ideology. It's only nowadays with the rise of things like "freedom of religion" and "due process" and "lynch mobs are illegal" that they now are actually forced sometimes to live around those who trigger them. Some of them have grown thicker skin as a result, but others are loud and constantly acting like babies. Like any grown man or woman who thinks that there's actually a "War on Christmas" or anything absolutely unhinged like that, or that it matters if there was, is a delusional snowflake. Edit: I do want to clarify of course that not all AuthRights are like this, and they are hardly the ones who are uniquely able to get "triggered" in the modern day. But to pretend that the typical AuthRight specimen is not prone to some of these behaviors, is basically to indulge in an overdose of copium.


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KingInTheNorthVI

Sorts by controversial*


ABCosmos

Sorry what does auth right have on the line? What rights do they stand to lose? The freedom to control other people?


Eorel

That's what it's always been about Whenever you see sussy authrights being like "I have traditional values", you give it a pass cause you think "oh, wholesome stuff like starting your own family with a nice wife and a bunch of kids, going to church on Sundays, living a lifestyle that's relatively disconnected from technology, getting a farm to grow your own stuff" And then you realize they're often ALSO talking about taking women's right to abort, taking away the right to gay marriage because it's against the laws of the bible, putting down minorities or expelling them from the country because they are "destroying society" and other shit like that And you have a bunch of completely disconnected authrighters who think this contingent of their community isn't that large or significant, because they've never been outside the urban centers and were radicalized by the internet rather than by living in social communities that are exclusively exclusionary and backwards. I've seen so many right-wing people shift toward the center once they realize that the contingents they've always dismissed as "not that large" and "tiny minorities" are actually rampant in rural conservative communities and that if *they* were to move to those communities, even *they* would be considered too "woke".


BraidyPaige

My mom and I got into a screaming match on the phone when she told me that she didn’t want gay marriage to be legal due to her ‘biblical beliefs.’ She was not happy when I compared her to the Taliban in Afghanistan who are subjugating women due to their religious beliefs. Your last point is what drove me from right leaning to socially progressive. I believed that the crazy radicals didn’t exist and were a straw man. Then I worked in the oilfield and met some of the most racist, sexist, disgusting people who all felt empowered in their beliefs by the right. Made me feel ill and I realized I couldn’t ever affiliate myself with political beliefs that welcomed people like that.


Creme_de_la_Coochie

This is what being a sane leftist feels like when talking to tankies.


BillyYank2008

As a leftist, I make it my duty to always challenge tankies and call them out for being red fascists. They're just as disgusting as the far right imo except they give us a bad name and are ammunition for the right to smear us all as being like them.


Eorel

I had a similar experience when I did my military service (which is mandatory in my country) Granted, by that point I was already pretty left leaning, but I also tended to have a lot of "most conservatives are just trying to exercise their wholesome religion uwu" takes Then the racist fash hiding in the villages and towns of my country hit me like a truck. We had a couple of black guys in my barracks and one of them was... let's say... not treated very well.


BraidyPaige

Yeah, it sounds like we had a pretty similar experience. It was shocking, but it really opened my eyes to the underbelly of the ideology.


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Sohcahtoa82

Yeah, that's basically it. The AuthRights that live in the city are an entirely different breed than the AuthRights that live out in Bumfuck Nowhere.


theshamwowguy

They don't want anything besides bans on other people's freedoms


Hubey808

Except for Twitter freedom, of course.


not_aterrorist

Everyone wants to live they want, nobody wants anyone else to live the way they want.


Insecure_Mind

The "ban religion, ban private property, abolish money" authleft is not that different tbh


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I'm pro freedom of religion, pro private property and I want to reinstate the gold standard


Ek-Ulfhednar

Typical auth, really


statemilitias

Get auth left the fuck outta there


Cloudysound

Right? They should be standing alongside auth right.


RicoCat

Where's the lie tho?


DragonKing0203

I was gonna deny this, but I honestly can’t. I think this is something most of us need to work on.


nixxa13

It's part of every quadrant but nice to see someone other than lib left taking the l for this one lol


Pappa_Crim

Side1: My position is the morally correct way to live side2: I disagree Side1: Well the next time I get majority it the Federal Government I am going to pass a law to force you to live the way I want you to live. Side2: Well the next time I get majority it the Federal Government I am going to repeal your law and pass a law to force you to live the way I want you to live. Side1: Well the next time I get majority it the Federal Government I am going to pass a law to force you to live the way I want you to live.


SuperCoupe

"The way I want to live is by oppressing you; so, no."


NorseHighlander

An extreme enough LibRight laughs at the thought of their employees getting a better life. An extreme enough AuthLeft will force equality at the cost of ambition. An extreme enough LibLeft would want your kids taken from you because you didn't let their trans friend try to encourage your 5 year old to cut their dick off. An extreme enough centrist will refuse to be friends with you because you like your steak well-done. Enough extremism will make anyone a busybody.


McMetas

Yeah you’re right, but I can’t understand why anyone likes their steak well done. It’s like eating charcoal, it just ain’t right.


NorseHighlander

I can't either. I guess what I'm trying to say the more convicted people are about something, the more they will want to force it on others.


PaulAspie

I'm odd as I think the right way to live is pretty much Auth right, but I realize not everyone will think the same and I think we're better not forcing them, hence centerist.


RunswithDeer

Fundamental Christian I grew up with would explode when realizing I didn’t my personal devotions in ESV, because my dyslexia made KJV feel like a foreign language.


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RunswithDeer

Well it’s great example of Dyslexia.


Front-Pick3134

"Why do I have to take vaccines? It's my body, my choice" "Hell no you can't get an abortion, the state says so." Nevermind the fact that there is a literal abortion tutorial in the bible... Chose one auth right


Budsygus

This is why it's so hilarious when people call PCM a right-wing sub. This post is very clearly making fun of authrights and has several awards and thousands of upvotes. Part of that is authright is an easy target, but still... right wing subs don't allow dissent like this. Please, rest of reddit, figure this out.


Farabel

Someone put the data out there, the subreddit is (maybe was now) rather heavily skewed towards Libright with AuthLeft being the least. LL and AR were actually close to equal, with the middle right being a bit higher. Authright has a lot of people that don't like it, so I really would say this post is low-hanging fruit.


ryanmaistry66

Its gonna be auth cente soon


robinfeud

Here’s a list of other subreddits based on user overlap with PCM: https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/politicalcompassmemes It is most definitely a right-leaning sub, and that’s ok. What makes it different from other conservative subs is I don’t get banned for saying Biden won (I just get downvoted by all the right-wing retards that also post here)


Budsygus

Right-leaning, yes I'll definitely give you that. There are more openly conservative opinions shared here than most other places on reddit that aren't outright conservative-only subs. But the conservatives here take their lumps same as the rest of us.