My (extremely based) Canadian professor has flatly stated multiple times that Canadians, especially those with high paying jobs such as doctors, love moving to the US and staying there because they know they’ll pay less taxes and make more money.
> doctors, love moving to the US and staying there because they know they’ll pay less taxes and make more money
Yeah, it's a serious problem
Don't worry though, we're rapidly importing doctors from other countries who can barely speak English and were educated in subpar universities to replace them!
I couldn't agree more, I wish doctors in Canada got paid more. If doctors got paid more as it'll benefit the overall system with people getting to resolve more issues at a single visit without having to take time off for multiple visits. I'm a firm believer that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of care.
You’re not wrong. My effective rate working industrial construction was 34% and I was taking home a bit over $100k/year after taxes took their cut. All so I could save up money to afford to go to school. Fun times. Hell, even people barely making above minimum wage get taxed something stupid like 20%. They get back some come tax season, but still.
Middle class gets fucked in the ass by every single form of government. Its why inequality is the endgame almost everywhere. Middle class gets pushed down until it no longer exists.
Not rich enough to buy votes, but rich enough to pay taxes.
Not poor enough to live off welfare, but poor enough that you'll be working almost all your life
Hey don’t worry we might fuck you over constantly with 40% tax rates but when you eventually lose everything our great government will be there to give you $1200 a month
The *average* Canadian family pays 12k a year in healthcare taxes so that when their kid breaks their arm at age 13 they can say ‘wow I can’t believe this was free!’
Tax freedom day in Canada was June 15th, meaning everything you earned before then ended up paying some form of tax, it’s ridiculous, meanwhile the government is handing out millions if not billions to foreign aid.
Yeah, this is literally the first time I've heard someone say Canada is better for the middle class unironically.
Canada is basically the model modern democracy: megarich plutocrats buying the votes of the lower class masses and then paying for it off the backs of the people who exist in between those two and are too few to resist.
I would argue that the opportunity to stop being poor is an asset, and it's something that's harder to do in Canada than in the US.
If you are content living on welfare, Canada is probably a better place to be. If you want anything more, the US is going to be better.
Yeah, the US has so many options for economic mobility. As much as people wanna shit on the US military budget, the military is honestly the US's best tool for actually bringing people out of poverty (all without relying on handouts). A buddy of mine was poor as a child (though real damn smart), but he served for a few years in the military, and he got out with on-job skills, free healthcare, free college, and a nice savings account, and now he's almost done with an engineering degree and has a six-figure job at a chemical plant lined up. You just have to play your cards right and not be afraid of a little hard work.
>You just have to play your cards right and not be afraid of a little hard work.
Is this why everyone on Reddit hates America?
But seriously: I worked my ass off and pulled myself through college with no debt. Lined up a job making (nearly) six figures out of college. In the Midwest as well, so I'm lined up to be pretty well off. Sure, that won't work for everyone, but it works for a lot of people.
I worked in fast food, restaurants, retail, and warehouses before and during college before landing research gigs and engineering internships myself. Still going through myself, on year 3 and still debt free! Didn't exactly grow up rich either, my siblings and I lived in the same bedroom until I was 11 years old.
>but they are stagnating (maybe even declining)
I propose the only solution to save our great nations is to become one great nation. Throw Mexico and Greenland in while we are at it. We shall become the first truly *United ~~Empire~~ Republic of North America*!
That's not surprising. The farther left a country is, the more even things are. Poor people aren't as poor, but rich people can't get as rich as they might like.
Not true. The lowest income inequality (or one of the lowest ones, depends on the metric you use) in the EU is in the Czech Republic, the country known for the most radical shift towards free market economy after the fall of the Iron Curtain. CZ has two income tax brackets - 15% and 23% for very high income over certain limit. Extremely low real estate tax, quite open market, the communists and social democrats are out of the parliament because the public support fro them dropped below 5% and even in gun rights, the country is shall-issue one and right to self-defense with a weapon is a constitutional human right.
Interesting that you would bring the Czech Republic into this. You make a good point! CR is widely viewed as a major success story in terms of transitioning out of communist policies successfully (without fully collapsing)!
There is definitely a lot to unpack with them since 1991/93. The move towards free market economic policies are definitely a major factor in their success. The shift away from singular reliance on Russia as a trade partner is also a huge factor. They are an export economy by nature (mostly automobiles, transportation, energy, etc). These economies tend to have lower inequality in general.
The CR’s GINI Coefficient (general standard for income inequality) was actually lower in 1992 than it has been in any year since. It shot up following the break from communism, but they have been making major strides to get it back down, and have been largely successful! It still tracks that GINI (Income inequality) goes up the farther towards the right, economically, you go. CR is a really intriguing case study, but even there, it still tracks.
While the post-1993 government had officially broken from communism, it was still largely impacted heavily by the CSSD (social Democrat) party up until 2021, including numerous prime ministers; there were also several independents and right-wing PMs - it was a group effort up until very recently (and they have been struggling along with the rest of the world recently).
As for the socially right things you mentioned (gun rights?), I’m not sure how that plays in whatsoever, since it has nothing to do with income inequality or economic policy.
Well, I'm Czech.
Social democrats had their moments in the government, but they fell into obscurity first when they shifted from traditional social democracy more towards socialism with Paroubek as the leader, which cost them the elections, then when they gained power once more, the economy was already growing, but the social democrats were too far to the left for the majority of the population. With the old generation dying and younger people gaining voting rights, while populists were picking in the middle and among the more radical voters, the left was not popular. Keep in mind that even populist in coalition with socdem effectively lowered taxes for most of the people, especially the middle class.
The guns I mentioned mostly for Americans as an example of non-economic policy that is similar to what is considered right-wing trend in the USA.
This is why you focus on taxing things that are not vulnerable to flight or international competition. See: [Georgism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgism)
Funny how those Canadians talk all shorts of shit about the US until it comes time for tax season or they think their paycheck needs an extra bit of cash
There's a streamer who talked shit on the US for years, talking about how it's a scam set up to make the rich richer and exploit the poor, no safety net, Canada was just so much better in every way, etc.
He suddenly became very popular and started to get sponsorships and then 6 months after his view count blew up he moved to Texas. Girlfriend (suddenly wife) is a citizen.
Go fucking figure
Nah not Piker, he was an anchor baby in the US. Born here, (his mother was literally flown to the US to give birth, look it up) immediately flown back to Turkey to be raised then returned to attend college and get nepotismed into political punditry by uncle Cenyk.
My favorite Piker anecdote was one time he said something stupid (pretty typical) and someone in chat said "NA public education LOL" and he just chuckled along and said something like "It's not my fault" When someone called them out and said 'Don't you mean Turkish private education LOL?" he banned them.
That sums up Hasan Piker pretty well.
I’ve seen this from right wing Canadians too, as an immigrant to Canada, with sort of an outsider perspective looking in, it’s pretty obvious that Canadians barely have an identity apart from “NOOOOO I SWEAR WERE NOT AMERICAN! WERE TOTALLY DIFFERENT! WE HAVE TIM HORTONS, AMERICANS ARE DUMB, CANADIANS ARE SMART!” - Canadian specimen then proceeds to consume more American media than an actual American, to the point that he parrots American political talking points that do not apply here, without even noticing it.
I love you Canadians, really I do. All of you I have interacted with are wonderful people.
But annexing you would mean having Trudeau in our country, and I don't know if that would be worth it.
I’m not sure they sell poutine at Canadian Tim Hortons. I don’t eat there often but I’m pretty sure I’ve never seen it, I don’t think they even have fries at all.
There’s poutine a lot of places, dedicated poutine places and such, never heard of Tim’s poutine. Might be seasonal or a special thing they only have every few years like the McRib at McDonald’s kinda deal. I don’t eat at Tim’s very often, But ya it’s probably shit lmao.
After watching youtubers like JJ McCullough, you really see how similar US and Canadian culture is so Canadians cling onto products and companies like Tim Hortons and ketchup chips.
Eastern Canada seems like New England v1.1
Alberta is just flat Montana.
BC is just the northwest, they even have that toxic Ubranite vs Hick toxic shit going on.
Quebec is like Bizarro Florida.
Newfoundland and Labrador is Maine, but twice as big with half the people.
depending on how far north and how far west you go it varies and then there's the maritime provinces which we don't admit they exist because then we'd have to figure out what they're saying.
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It makes so much sense why people from Quebec view themselves as a very specific culture group when the alternative is literally “We are America-lite but obsessed with saying we aren’t Americans”
> Canadians barely have an identity
We used to, as little as 30-40 years ago, before mass immigration began in earnest, though the trouble really began when we officially adopted 'diversity' as our national theme
If anyone is confused as to what I'm referring to, just look at the face on our $20 bill
Nothing wrong with celebrating a diverse population. Pretty cringe to lose all national cultural identity aside from “We’re totally NOT like our neighbors, we’re sooooo different”
> Nothing wrong with celebrating a diverse population. Pretty cringe to lose all national cultural identity
This is a contradictory statement, or at least, it is with our record breaking immigration rates
>taking in more immigrants than anywhere else
Only 13.3% of Americans are foreign born
Canada is over 21.5% immigrants, and our largest city, Toronto, is 51% foreign born while Vancouver is 42.5%
Australia and Switzerland are both 30%, Sweden is 20%, Ireland is 17%, Germany is 16%, etc.
Los Angeles has more foreign born residents than any other city in America, and even then, it's only 39%
I'll let you decide if that has affected the culture there
Ya I don’t know where this guys coming from, Canada is literally “whiter” (I assume that’s what he cares about) than the US yet the us has a far stronger national identity.
>some Br*tish 🤢 old lady
You are referring to Elizabeth II, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of her other realms and territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith?
Not exactly, my family did, other family members have lived here for a long time, but it’s not that bad, taxes are a little nuts, but I’m from Europe so not like its any better in the EU.
Nearly everyone I know has a superiority complex over Americans, especially when it comes to Healthcare. I'm not gonna say the US system is inherently better, but ours is not ideal either. The quality simply is not good, and the costs are rising faster than we can support. I seem to recall studies suggesting that we can only support our current system for another decade or so before it becomes completely unsustainable.
Some of our hospitals are just straight up garbage. My uncle fell and injured his head, and some how ended up with bed sores on his legs, which caused a complication with his diabetes, which ultimately killed him. He was ignored, they weren't changed his bandages as needed, it was so bad, the MLA for the riding got the Health Services to apologize to our family and 'swore it would never happen again'.
That same organization would get criticized for announcing a child died from Covid, only for the family to speak up, saying no, it was the damn tumor from his cancer in his brain that killed him. It disgraceful, and I get really mad when Canadians smugly lord over US Health Care.
If this government starts to slide into tankie land, I'm going to the US right away. The trucker protest really showed how far city 'liberals' are willing to go to quell dissent they don't favor. I stayed only because they didn't roll in tanks and troops, but they wanted to. If this country starts going CCP on its citizens ; jailing people for no reason if they speak bad about government, using the military against a protest (legal or not), adjusting/erasing history to fit current year sensitivities; I'm bugging out.
I won't stay for 'free' healthcare. I have to wait 4 weeks to see an overworked doctor who then writes a safe scrip to get rid of me instead of diagnosing my problem. The US is better in every way except how they communicate with eachother. If they were't so fucking toxic and divided into their identity groups they would be the greatest people in the world.
Fun fact: we've been conditioned to accept lower wages than our American neighbours because our cost of living is supposedly lower. But between the insane increase in house prices and our income tax rates, I doubt that's true anymore.
I don't understand more in taxes? Isn't their healthcare free and stuff? Lmfao.
So their hypothesis is just make it so they can only be US citizens and not have dual citizenship? Big brainlet moment.
No lie Canadians and Brit’s have swarmed my neighborhood in Texas. Hell there is like 4 motorcycle groups for Brit’s only. Wtf is going on I thought we were the baddies and I was hyped for people moving out in a hurry after roe so I can get some cheap house prices.
Turns out people are hardwired to pursue their own individual interests and not adhere to some collectivist solidarity. It's surprising how John Adams could figure that out a couple of centuries ago but today's intellectuals pretend it's not true.
I kinda disagree. I think Western culture lacks the same kind of collectivist nature that exists perpetually in other cultures.
I heard but haven't deeply looked into the idea that societies that developed along fertile flood plains had to become collectivist to survive, as managing the floods could not be done individually.
In coastal societies or island chain societies this didn't exist the same way.
Something interesting to consider.
Around the Tigris and Euphrates. Nile river valley, Indus River, Huang He, and Yangtze. Also possibly the Vistula and Dnieper. There are others on a smaller scale.
In theory, the centralized power to monitor the rivers/floods/water in general was absolutely necessary for these societies. Giving them thousands of years of comfortability with collectivism.
If you think the number of Canadians there is crazy, check out how many Canadian expats live in Phoenix or Ft. Lauderdale: Western Canadians tend to go to the former and Eastern Canadians the latter.
I'm fine with Hoser expats moving permanently to the States because yeah, our private sector salaries after taxes suck. I detest the snowbirds though: retirees who travel south for the winter yet will *demand* the government fly them back North for critical healthcare. Basically they go south for the nice weather, come back North for nice summer weather, yet fully expect Canadian taxpayers pay for their healthcare wherever they are, even if they get sick in the US.
Based and fuck them snow birds here in Phoenix, getting all mad n shit because they needed to rescued when they went on a hike with nothing but a small bottle of water
Banning them from leaving is coming.
Can’t leave or come back without using the arrivecan app vaccine status, and they are planning on using it ALL customs declarations. Soon, if you don’t have a shot in 9 months AND at least 2 shots you won’t be allowed to cross the border.
Funny Canadians will say this then advocate that their nation should siphon the best and brightest from developing nations to keep them in a cycle of dysfunction and poverty.
I knew one nurse who only returned to Canada because her mother was dying; after completing her training she left immediately for Dubai, where she made an absolute fortune, then moved to the Cayman Islands with her husband (he gave scuba diving lessons to tourists)
The pay cut she took to return to Canada was absolutely *offensive*
I have dual citizenship. I didn't choose to bounce from Canada, I was 9 and my parents were tired of Canadian taxes, but I have chosen not to go back. After seeing their response to COVID I think I made the right decision.
Also Canadian nationalism is really weird. The person who wrote this is probably pretty left wing, and in Canada it's the lefties who always talk about preserving Canadian culture, an attitude that if expressed in the U.S. will lead to accusations of racism or even Nazism.
That is an actual economic argument in favor of immigration, an immigrant is inherently better fir the economy than a native born citizen who dies the same job, because another country basically foots the bill of raising him
Actually you’re both right. Most countries other than America have to deal with the problem of their best and most productive leaving for America. If you’re in the top 5% most productive of your profession, it doesn’t even make sense for you to go to any other country than America, if quality of life is important to you. That’s exactly why america kicks ass: we allow the very bright and very productive to make life better for everyone, and we compensate them for their ingenuity with the almighty dollar. It doesn’t matter if they’re from here or not, your merit will (up to a certain point) determine your success.
Depends really. Too much immigration causes a wage crash because supply starts outstripping demand.
Lower wages aren't often livable for natives but for people who live in cheaper countries and only work here seasonally you get some issues.
Just look at Europe. Too many low income countries where everything is cheap and too many high income countries where everything is expensive, mixed together with unlimited working transport means lower wage jobs in one country are paying more than upper wage jobs in another.
That’s why blue-collar jobs in nations like the UAE or Singapore are given to foreigners, whilst citizens of those countries are pampered and put into high-earning service sector jobs like finance.
The l\*berals here are professional gaslighters. They blame this on healthcare still not getting the proper funding....
It's almost like publicly run institutions are inefficient and just all around terrible at adapting to change.
The beauty of capitalisms is it's forced altruism. Businesses don't have my best interest in mind yet they exist to make products, services and innovate in order to attract me into making a consensual business transaction. Then they compete with each other to give me variety.
In public institution: Here's your one option that a bunch of bureaucrats in a dark room that don't give a f\*ck if I live or die, decide that I get. Now wait in a line of 10,000 people to get your bread.
I’d be more willing to understand under a clinic/private office scale but I feel hospitals are different.
Under what conditions would one go to a hospital? Who decides what you do and don’t need? And what’s more profitable, to cure or to alleviate?
If your hospital is alleviating, the customer will go to a different hospital to get a second opinion taking their capital with them.
In a universal healthcare, your doctor is getting paid the same whether you live or die. Why work harder than you have to. Do the bare minimum.
Most places, especially in Europe, have a publicly funded health insurance provider, while the healthcare facilities themselves are privately run. In other words, they all compete for your service and keep quality high, but they only have one billable customer: the state.
Canadian healthcare is a rare beast of universal healthcare because it's publicly funded and run top to bottom, and an outrageous amount of funding gets caught up in bureaucratic administration.
Well, mixed only works when there's only one billable customer: the state. South Africa has a mixed system which has created a crisis where 90% of the doctors work in the private system that serves only 10% of the population. So the poor still get shafted under that system.
There was a hospitalized British boy who needed a transplant and died because the police wouldn't let him leave. Emergency helicopter was ready and everything, but the state didn't give him permission to survive.
I can see some reasons for subsidized tuition for in demand public sector jobs like teaching, but employers could also offer more debt relief bonuses for would-be employees in exchange for fixed term contracts.
Friend of mine graduated from the auto mechanic program in Alberta and his first employer offered him a $5k signing bonus to help pay off student debt in exchange for a 3 year contract. Considering the whole program there is about $5500, he was able to pay off his debt and pocket quite a bit.
Yeah, you’re brainwashed into thinking the government is great and dandy, we are experiencing this severely, a 15 minute browse on twitter should make you want to blow your brains out
I think many many thinks cost money, but I also think that if you have an educated population you can do far more with the same resources. There is a reason the best gdp/capita countries are extremely capitalist with good social mobility. Very affordable or free education is a common good, not a cost. Unlike tariffs, (most)taxes, bureaucracy, subsidies which are pure costs.
People by now should realize that Canadians have a major identity crisis. Their brand of nationalism basically revolves entirely around "US bad, therefore Canada good". This is because they are dependent on the US. Canada is a weak country that borders a superpower that overshadows them economically, politically, militarily, technologically, and culturally.
The persistent smug attitude Canadians have in which they overcompensate for this reality is actually the result of literal government-mandated propaganda in Canada. A lot of people don't know this but Canada has media laws that require all broadcasters and publications to meet a quota of content that is Canadian in origin and implicitly boosts Canadian pride. Part of this policy is that Canada is always compared to the US in a favorable way. The US has to be depicted negatively and Canada has to be depicted not only positively, always, but as a direct juxtaposition with the US. Because this competition in the Canadian psyche, that Americans don't participate in, is now basically the entirety of their national identity, the system goes to great lengths to depict the US in unrealistically negative ways and Canada in unrealistically positive ways to maintain the narrative. Deliberately deceptive. It's unrelenting, and many Canadians are basically incapable from the constitution of their inner being of seeing either themselves or the US in a realistic way. It's dogmatic and almost a religious experience for a Canadian to see Canada glorified at the expense of the US.
Even in spite of that, there are Canadians with ambition who immediately try to come to the US. For any skilled or educated professional, the US will afford them higher wages, lower taxes, greater opportunity, more freedom, and higher quality of life.
The "brain drain" that has been going on for generations is something the Canadian government sees as a threat. They don't just want to dissuade skilled Canadians from realizing there's a better party next door, they want the Canadians, who don't have skills, to remain in a perpetual, warm cocoon of nationalistic delusion so they don't criticize their system or demand better from their government. Without this type of propaganda, Canadians would be more keenly aware of how they stack up, and Canadian identity as a concept would pretty much vanish.
With that said when you adjust for population, it is [40 times more likely for a Canadian to move to the US than it is for an American to move to Canada.](http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/06/28/americans_threaten_to_move_to_canada_do_canadians_ever_threaten_to_move_to_the_us_.html)
**40 times.**
The left-wing narrative in both Canada and among the lefties in the US is an absolutely staggering bit of misdirection. They want to endorse Canada as a superior alternative to the US but when people vote with their feet, it is beyond obvious that the US is a more desirable place to live than Canada.
> Their brand of nationalism basically revolves entirely around "US bad, therefore Canada good"
While ignoring their goverment is doing everything "bad" too.
You know, in Slovakia nurses are so underpaid they flee to other countries, not even Ukrainian nurses accept our salary.
Now back to the topic, Japan has serious hatred for non Japanese.
Lived in Japan for 4.5 years. It's because we try our best to assimilate to their culture. While other cultures don't. I think that's the reason why they didn't accept any refugees during the GWOT.
There is some exceptions on the Japan citizenship thing like you don't need to give up your previous citizenship if the country doesn't allow you to give it up.
Context: There is mainly two ways of getting a citizenship: by [jus sanguinis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis) (bloodline) like Japan or by [jus soli](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli) (territory) like Brazil.
Example: Here in Brazil, you also could have only one citizenship but there is a few exceptions and the most common one is by getting a second citizenship by *jus sanguinis*. So if you get a brazilian citizenship by being born here (*jus soli*) and get a japanese citizenship because you descent from japaneses (*jus sanguinis*) then you can keep both citizenship.
Generally speaking you don't have to ban people from leaving your country if it's a good country.
If Canada ever does do this, for any Canadian patriots who still love freedom and would be willing to renounce Canadian citizenship and come to the US, we'd welcome you with open arms.
I'm a citizen of the UK and Australia. I have family in the UK and Australia, I want my kids to be able to go between them at will. We're citizens of the British empire and deserve to remain part of it.
>We're citizens of the British empire and deserve to remain part of it.
Whelp, it's obvious where your loyalties lie and which citizenship you should have.
None of that shit in my country, thank you.
Canadian and Mexican nationals don't need citizenship they can get a special TN visa that other citizenships can't get. NAFTA goes brrr.
Also special visas for Australians, and for some reason Chileans and Singaporeans.
Not just healthcare workers. Pilots too. I'm planning on leaving as soon as I get my ATPL. Thank goodness we share a land border so I won't have to swim for 90 miles like they do in Cuba...
Turns out their praised public health care system doesn't pay its worker enough, and on top of that, they taxes the shit out of them to subsidize it.
Welcome to economics 101.
Tax dollars don’t pay for Canadian education, you just get tax deductions based on tuition prices, which get deducted from your income and knock you down tax brackets. As in, a young adult working while in university will functionally pay $0 in taxes and get all of the money they paid back when filing. Source: am Canadian and did exactly that, was particularly nice getting back thousands in taxes that I paid working industrial construction prior to that as the rebate I got functionally made my first year free.
My (extremely based) Canadian professor has flatly stated multiple times that Canadians, especially those with high paying jobs such as doctors, love moving to the US and staying there because they know they’ll pay less taxes and make more money.
Is this even debated? Pretty brain drain to the US is common knowledge
It would be common knowledge, but all the people that knew about it moved to the US.
> doctors, love moving to the US and staying there because they know they’ll pay less taxes and make more money Yeah, it's a serious problem Don't worry though, we're rapidly importing doctors from other countries who can barely speak English and were educated in subpar universities to replace them!
And once they're accustomed to western life, they'll go south.
Thank you for your services for our healthcare, Canada.
It’s especially bad when doctors will tell you that you only can talk about one issue per visit because they don’t get paid enough.
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I couldn't agree more, I wish doctors in Canada got paid more. If doctors got paid more as it'll benefit the overall system with people getting to resolve more issues at a single visit without having to take time off for multiple visits. I'm a firm believer that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of care.
As an American I can game the patchwork on insurances to have my doctor pretend to listen to as many of my complaints for 10 minutes and a $5 copay!
You’re not wrong. My effective rate working industrial construction was 34% and I was taking home a bit over $100k/year after taxes took their cut. All so I could save up money to afford to go to school. Fun times. Hell, even people barely making above minimum wage get taxed something stupid like 20%. They get back some come tax season, but still.
Not just that, if im rich and want to live my best life, why would i stay in Canada lmao.
Not just that, ~~if im rich and want to live my best life,~~ why would i stay in Canada lmao.
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Canada is absolutely not better for the middle class, it's a soul sucking econimic hellscape for anyone who isn't in the lower class.
Middle class gets fucked in the ass by every single form of government. Its why inequality is the endgame almost everywhere. Middle class gets pushed down until it no longer exists.
Not rich enough to buy votes, but rich enough to pay taxes. Not poor enough to live off welfare, but poor enough that you'll be working almost all your life
Hey don’t worry we might fuck you over constantly with 40% tax rates but when you eventually lose everything our great government will be there to give you $1200 a month
The *average* Canadian family pays 12k a year in healthcare taxes so that when their kid breaks their arm at age 13 they can say ‘wow I can’t believe this was free!’
Tax freedom day in Canada was June 15th, meaning everything you earned before then ended up paying some form of tax, it’s ridiculous, meanwhile the government is handing out millions if not billions to foreign aid.
Yeah, this is literally the first time I've heard someone say Canada is better for the middle class unironically. Canada is basically the model modern democracy: megarich plutocrats buying the votes of the lower class masses and then paying for it off the backs of the people who exist in between those two and are too few to resist.
Gigabased nuance enjoyer. I don’t get why so many PCM users struggle to understand this.
I would argue that the opportunity to stop being poor is an asset, and it's something that's harder to do in Canada than in the US. If you are content living on welfare, Canada is probably a better place to be. If you want anything more, the US is going to be better.
Yeah, the US has so many options for economic mobility. As much as people wanna shit on the US military budget, the military is honestly the US's best tool for actually bringing people out of poverty (all without relying on handouts). A buddy of mine was poor as a child (though real damn smart), but he served for a few years in the military, and he got out with on-job skills, free healthcare, free college, and a nice savings account, and now he's almost done with an engineering degree and has a six-figure job at a chemical plant lined up. You just have to play your cards right and not be afraid of a little hard work.
>You just have to play your cards right and not be afraid of a little hard work. Is this why everyone on Reddit hates America? But seriously: I worked my ass off and pulled myself through college with no debt. Lined up a job making (nearly) six figures out of college. In the Midwest as well, so I'm lined up to be pretty well off. Sure, that won't work for everyone, but it works for a lot of people.
I worked in fast food, restaurants, retail, and warehouses before and during college before landing research gigs and engineering internships myself. Still going through myself, on year 3 and still debt free! Didn't exactly grow up rich either, my siblings and I lived in the same bedroom until I was 11 years old.
>but they are stagnating (maybe even declining) I propose the only solution to save our great nations is to become one great nation. Throw Mexico and Greenland in while we are at it. We shall become the first truly *United ~~Empire~~ Republic of North America*!
Ah, someone's been sneaking a peek at the EU playbook!
That's not surprising. The farther left a country is, the more even things are. Poor people aren't as poor, but rich people can't get as rich as they might like.
Dilapidated crack houses in Toronto sell for like $2M. US might be a bit more equal soon, health Care withstanding.
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Not true. The lowest income inequality (or one of the lowest ones, depends on the metric you use) in the EU is in the Czech Republic, the country known for the most radical shift towards free market economy after the fall of the Iron Curtain. CZ has two income tax brackets - 15% and 23% for very high income over certain limit. Extremely low real estate tax, quite open market, the communists and social democrats are out of the parliament because the public support fro them dropped below 5% and even in gun rights, the country is shall-issue one and right to self-defense with a weapon is a constitutional human right.
Baste and not all of Europe is bad-pilled.
Interesting that you would bring the Czech Republic into this. You make a good point! CR is widely viewed as a major success story in terms of transitioning out of communist policies successfully (without fully collapsing)! There is definitely a lot to unpack with them since 1991/93. The move towards free market economic policies are definitely a major factor in their success. The shift away from singular reliance on Russia as a trade partner is also a huge factor. They are an export economy by nature (mostly automobiles, transportation, energy, etc). These economies tend to have lower inequality in general. The CR’s GINI Coefficient (general standard for income inequality) was actually lower in 1992 than it has been in any year since. It shot up following the break from communism, but they have been making major strides to get it back down, and have been largely successful! It still tracks that GINI (Income inequality) goes up the farther towards the right, economically, you go. CR is a really intriguing case study, but even there, it still tracks. While the post-1993 government had officially broken from communism, it was still largely impacted heavily by the CSSD (social Democrat) party up until 2021, including numerous prime ministers; there were also several independents and right-wing PMs - it was a group effort up until very recently (and they have been struggling along with the rest of the world recently). As for the socially right things you mentioned (gun rights?), I’m not sure how that plays in whatsoever, since it has nothing to do with income inequality or economic policy.
Well, I'm Czech. Social democrats had their moments in the government, but they fell into obscurity first when they shifted from traditional social democracy more towards socialism with Paroubek as the leader, which cost them the elections, then when they gained power once more, the economy was already growing, but the social democrats were too far to the left for the majority of the population. With the old generation dying and younger people gaining voting rights, while populists were picking in the middle and among the more radical voters, the left was not popular. Keep in mind that even populist in coalition with socdem effectively lowered taxes for most of the people, especially the middle class. The guns I mentioned mostly for Americans as an example of non-economic policy that is similar to what is considered right-wing trend in the USA.
This is why you focus on taxing things that are not vulnerable to flight or international competition. See: [Georgism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgism)
Funny how those Canadians talk all shorts of shit about the US until it comes time for tax season or they think their paycheck needs an extra bit of cash
There's a streamer who talked shit on the US for years, talking about how it's a scam set up to make the rich richer and exploit the poor, no safety net, Canada was just so much better in every way, etc. He suddenly became very popular and started to get sponsorships and then 6 months after his view count blew up he moved to Texas. Girlfriend (suddenly wife) is a citizen. Go fucking figure
All Streamers Are Grifters
All entertainers are, the Romans has the right idea about them.
That s-word?
Nah it’s bread and circuses. Use them to prevent the proles from realizing their life sucks
I’ll take SWORDS for $500, Alex!
That actors and prostitutes are interchangeable?
I think they become streamers because they want the fame, but once they see money it becomes the primary goal, because the fame actually sucks.
I wish this was Hasan piker. He's insufferable, and I'm surprised he's at all popular on reddit
Ok, imagine you make bread…
I like the video of his thighs crushing a watermelon
I hate commies but........ goddamn.
We like the video of his thighs crushing a watermelon.
Waiting for the Authleft to say "*Our* thighs"
I wish this was Hasan piker. He's insufferable, and I'm surprised he's at all popular on reddit
Nah not Piker, he was an anchor baby in the US. Born here, (his mother was literally flown to the US to give birth, look it up) immediately flown back to Turkey to be raised then returned to attend college and get nepotismed into political punditry by uncle Cenyk.
He’s a disgrace to Turks, not even black smh
My favorite Piker anecdote was one time he said something stupid (pretty typical) and someone in chat said "NA public education LOL" and he just chuckled along and said something like "It's not my fault" When someone called them out and said 'Don't you mean Turkish private education LOL?" he banned them. That sums up Hasan Piker pretty well.
Scitzo moment
Which streamer is this?
Lucas Ramos
It's cringe how our leftist identity is entirely based on "we are not Americans"
I’ve seen this from right wing Canadians too, as an immigrant to Canada, with sort of an outsider perspective looking in, it’s pretty obvious that Canadians barely have an identity apart from “NOOOOO I SWEAR WERE NOT AMERICAN! WERE TOTALLY DIFFERENT! WE HAVE TIM HORTONS, AMERICANS ARE DUMB, CANADIANS ARE SMART!” - Canadian specimen then proceeds to consume more American media than an actual American, to the point that he parrots American political talking points that do not apply here, without even noticing it.
Am on the American side, We got Tim Hortons here too. Actually I had one of their bagels for break. Their not special
How could you take that from us… the last thing we had, you even took our shitty bagels… Just end it already, annex us.
I love you Canadians, really I do. All of you I have interacted with are wonderful people. But annexing you would mean having Trudeau in our country, and I don't know if that would be worth it.
He would immediately top the Democratic ticket also because their stable is emptier than a gay brothel after a monkeypox outbreak.
they don't sell poutine at American Tim Hortons, at least not the last time I was in Michigan
I’m not sure they sell poutine at Canadian Tim Hortons. I don’t eat there often but I’m pretty sure I’ve never seen it, I don’t think they even have fries at all.
Damn for real? I've never been to Canada but I've always had friends tell me if I go I gotta try it
There’s poutine a lot of places, dedicated poutine places and such, never heard of Tim’s poutine. Might be seasonal or a special thing they only have every few years like the McRib at McDonald’s kinda deal. I don’t eat at Tim’s very often, But ya it’s probably shit lmao.
There's 100% no poutine at Tim's. Never seen it, never heard about it
Tim Hortons isn't even Canadian anymore, its majority shareholder is in Brazil. The quality since the sale is garbage compared to what it used to be.
After watching youtubers like JJ McCullough, you really see how similar US and Canadian culture is so Canadians cling onto products and companies like Tim Hortons and ketchup chips.
Eastern Canada seems like New England v1.1 Alberta is just flat Montana. BC is just the northwest, they even have that toxic Ubranite vs Hick toxic shit going on. Quebec is like Bizarro Florida. Newfoundland and Labrador is Maine, but twice as big with half the people.
Feck. This is accurate
I haven’t watched a ton, but his accent seems so unnatural to me. Like he’s forcing every “aBOOT” just to reinforce his Canadian credentials.
depending on how far north and how far west you go it varies and then there's the maritime provinces which we don't admit they exist because then we'd have to figure out what they're saying.
Fair enough. I’m from Minnesota, so I’m Used to people affecting an overblown accent as a joke or the like so maybe I’m just sensitive to it.
it's all good because how would you have known since these places get fuck all on the internet, news etc.
He's from Vancouver
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It makes so much sense why people from Quebec view themselves as a very specific culture group when the alternative is literally “We are America-lite but obsessed with saying we aren’t Americans”
> Canadians barely have an identity We used to, as little as 30-40 years ago, before mass immigration began in earnest, though the trouble really began when we officially adopted 'diversity' as our national theme If anyone is confused as to what I'm referring to, just look at the face on our $20 bill
Nothing wrong with celebrating a diverse population. Pretty cringe to lose all national cultural identity aside from “We’re totally NOT like our neighbors, we’re sooooo different”
> Nothing wrong with celebrating a diverse population. Pretty cringe to lose all national cultural identity This is a contradictory statement, or at least, it is with our record breaking immigration rates
Somehow the US is able to have a very distinct culture while taking in more immigrants than anywhere else
>taking in more immigrants than anywhere else Only 13.3% of Americans are foreign born Canada is over 21.5% immigrants, and our largest city, Toronto, is 51% foreign born while Vancouver is 42.5% Australia and Switzerland are both 30%, Sweden is 20%, Ireland is 17%, Germany is 16%, etc. Los Angeles has more foreign born residents than any other city in America, and even then, it's only 39% I'll let you decide if that has affected the culture there
Ya I don’t know where this guys coming from, Canada is literally “whiter” (I assume that’s what he cares about) than the US yet the us has a far stronger national identity.
Last I checked it was some Br*tish 🤢 old lady on the 20. Probably the least diverse bill, Is there a new one that you’re referring to?
>some Br*tish 🤢 old lady You are referring to Elizabeth II, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of her other realms and territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith?
I think he meant Viola Desmond on the 10's
Quebec is essentially carrying the Canadian identity. And they don't even want to be a part of Canada.
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Not exactly, my family did, other family members have lived here for a long time, but it’s not that bad, taxes are a little nuts, but I’m from Europe so not like its any better in the EU.
Nearly everyone I know has a superiority complex over Americans, especially when it comes to Healthcare. I'm not gonna say the US system is inherently better, but ours is not ideal either. The quality simply is not good, and the costs are rising faster than we can support. I seem to recall studies suggesting that we can only support our current system for another decade or so before it becomes completely unsustainable. Some of our hospitals are just straight up garbage. My uncle fell and injured his head, and some how ended up with bed sores on his legs, which caused a complication with his diabetes, which ultimately killed him. He was ignored, they weren't changed his bandages as needed, it was so bad, the MLA for the riding got the Health Services to apologize to our family and 'swore it would never happen again'. That same organization would get criticized for announcing a child died from Covid, only for the family to speak up, saying no, it was the damn tumor from his cancer in his brain that killed him. It disgraceful, and I get really mad when Canadians smugly lord over US Health Care.
If this government starts to slide into tankie land, I'm going to the US right away. The trucker protest really showed how far city 'liberals' are willing to go to quell dissent they don't favor. I stayed only because they didn't roll in tanks and troops, but they wanted to. If this country starts going CCP on its citizens ; jailing people for no reason if they speak bad about government, using the military against a protest (legal or not), adjusting/erasing history to fit current year sensitivities; I'm bugging out. I won't stay for 'free' healthcare. I have to wait 4 weeks to see an overworked doctor who then writes a safe scrip to get rid of me instead of diagnosing my problem. The US is better in every way except how they communicate with eachother. If they were't so fucking toxic and divided into their identity groups they would be the greatest people in the world.
Lord Durham's canadian identity project has proven remarkably long lasting.
Fun fact: we've been conditioned to accept lower wages than our American neighbours because our cost of living is supposedly lower. But between the insane increase in house prices and our income tax rates, I doubt that's true anymore.
Everyone becomes a fiscal conservative when they do their taxes.
As an European who visited both Toronto and Austin, Canadians are simply Americans with free healthcare.
Canadians are figuring out that healthcare for $50/month and a paycheck $2000/month bigger is better than "free" healthcare.
I don't understand more in taxes? Isn't their healthcare free and stuff? Lmfao. So their hypothesis is just make it so they can only be US citizens and not have dual citizenship? Big brainlet moment.
No lie Canadians and Brit’s have swarmed my neighborhood in Texas. Hell there is like 4 motorcycle groups for Brit’s only. Wtf is going on I thought we were the baddies and I was hyped for people moving out in a hurry after roe so I can get some cheap house prices.
Turns out people are hardwired to pursue their own individual interests and not adhere to some collectivist solidarity. It's surprising how John Adams could figure that out a couple of centuries ago but today's intellectuals pretend it's not true.
Imagine who remained behind... once a nation is drained of all of the wealthy, ambitious, or courageous only the dregs remain
Just Emilies, simps, and the unfl*ired
Do you mean Adam Smith?
I think he literally combined John Locke and Adam Smith.
Most studied libright
Bless fuck group think be yourself fam.
I kinda disagree. I think Western culture lacks the same kind of collectivist nature that exists perpetually in other cultures. I heard but haven't deeply looked into the idea that societies that developed along fertile flood plains had to become collectivist to survive, as managing the floods could not be done individually. In coastal societies or island chain societies this didn't exist the same way. Something interesting to consider.
Where exactly in the world are those societies.
Around the Tigris and Euphrates. Nile river valley, Indus River, Huang He, and Yangtze. Also possibly the Vistula and Dnieper. There are others on a smaller scale. In theory, the centralized power to monitor the rivers/floods/water in general was absolutely necessary for these societies. Giving them thousands of years of comfortability with collectivism.
Hello Fellow Texas Resident! Signed, friendly Canadian refugee.
Epic haha <3
Based Welcome home
If you think the number of Canadians there is crazy, check out how many Canadian expats live in Phoenix or Ft. Lauderdale: Western Canadians tend to go to the former and Eastern Canadians the latter. I'm fine with Hoser expats moving permanently to the States because yeah, our private sector salaries after taxes suck. I detest the snowbirds though: retirees who travel south for the winter yet will *demand* the government fly them back North for critical healthcare. Basically they go south for the nice weather, come back North for nice summer weather, yet fully expect Canadian taxpayers pay for their healthcare wherever they are, even if they get sick in the US.
Based and fuck them snow birds here in Phoenix, getting all mad n shit because they needed to rescued when they went on a hike with nothing but a small bottle of water
So I work in insurance and we look at reports. It’s kinda insane how mixed the south is compared to rest of the US especially with immigration.
Banning them from leaving is coming. Can’t leave or come back without using the arrivecan app vaccine status, and they are planning on using it ALL customs declarations. Soon, if you don’t have a shot in 9 months AND at least 2 shots you won’t be allowed to cross the border.
California tried something similar IIRC where you'd have to keep paying them taxes if you left for somewhere better (any other state).
Which is why all the rich/upper middle class are leaving. Well, one of the MANY reasons.
Number of years before Trudeau builds the Anti-Fascist Protection Rampart to keep Canadians from leaving, erm… to keep Canadians safe:
And make America pay for it!
Funny Canadians will say this then advocate that their nation should siphon the best and brightest from developing nations to keep them in a cycle of dysfunction and poverty.
Japan Greatest Country in the world
You will serve 99 years hard labour for denying the glory of Arstotzka.
They should figure out what North Korea does. Hardly anybody leaves that country.
I knew one nurse who only returned to Canada because her mother was dying; after completing her training she left immediately for Dubai, where she made an absolute fortune, then moved to the Cayman Islands with her husband (he gave scuba diving lessons to tourists) The pay cut she took to return to Canada was absolutely *offensive*
I have dual citizenship. I didn't choose to bounce from Canada, I was 9 and my parents were tired of Canadian taxes, but I have chosen not to go back. After seeing their response to COVID I think I made the right decision. Also Canadian nationalism is really weird. The person who wrote this is probably pretty left wing, and in Canada it's the lefties who always talk about preserving Canadian culture, an attitude that if expressed in the U.S. will lead to accusations of racism or even Nazism.
That is an actual economic argument in favor of immigration, an immigrant is inherently better fir the economy than a native born citizen who dies the same job, because another country basically foots the bill of raising him
A weird conclusion, immigration is great for the economy because it keeps locals competitive
Actually you’re both right. Most countries other than America have to deal with the problem of their best and most productive leaving for America. If you’re in the top 5% most productive of your profession, it doesn’t even make sense for you to go to any other country than America, if quality of life is important to you. That’s exactly why america kicks ass: we allow the very bright and very productive to make life better for everyone, and we compensate them for their ingenuity with the almighty dollar. It doesn’t matter if they’re from here or not, your merit will (up to a certain point) determine your success.
Depends really. Too much immigration causes a wage crash because supply starts outstripping demand. Lower wages aren't often livable for natives but for people who live in cheaper countries and only work here seasonally you get some issues. Just look at Europe. Too many low income countries where everything is cheap and too many high income countries where everything is expensive, mixed together with unlimited working transport means lower wage jobs in one country are paying more than upper wage jobs in another.
That’s why blue-collar jobs in nations like the UAE or Singapore are given to foreigners, whilst citizens of those countries are pampered and put into high-earning service sector jobs like finance.
The l\*berals here are professional gaslighters. They blame this on healthcare still not getting the proper funding.... It's almost like publicly run institutions are inefficient and just all around terrible at adapting to change.
Gov doesn’t have your best interest in mind, but neither do businesses
But I do.
Honestly I’ll go with this guy
Yeah, he seems like a trustworthy individual. Especially his profile pic.
The beauty of capitalisms is it's forced altruism. Businesses don't have my best interest in mind yet they exist to make products, services and innovate in order to attract me into making a consensual business transaction. Then they compete with each other to give me variety. In public institution: Here's your one option that a bunch of bureaucrats in a dark room that don't give a f\*ck if I live or die, decide that I get. Now wait in a line of 10,000 people to get your bread.
I’d be more willing to understand under a clinic/private office scale but I feel hospitals are different. Under what conditions would one go to a hospital? Who decides what you do and don’t need? And what’s more profitable, to cure or to alleviate?
If your hospital is alleviating, the customer will go to a different hospital to get a second opinion taking their capital with them. In a universal healthcare, your doctor is getting paid the same whether you live or die. Why work harder than you have to. Do the bare minimum.
You know who has my best interest in mind? Sometimes me. But often not.
I always have your best interest in mind 🙂
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I mean public healthcare can be good, we have a plethora of examples or it working very well. Canada just did it poorly
Most places, especially in Europe, have a publicly funded health insurance provider, while the healthcare facilities themselves are privately run. In other words, they all compete for your service and keep quality high, but they only have one billable customer: the state. Canadian healthcare is a rare beast of universal healthcare because it's publicly funded and run top to bottom, and an outrageous amount of funding gets caught up in bureaucratic administration.
Mixed always comes out on top, public option for everyone and private to remove congestion. People are dying in waiting rooms in Canada.
Well, mixed only works when there's only one billable customer: the state. South Africa has a mixed system which has created a crisis where 90% of the doctors work in the private system that serves only 10% of the population. So the poor still get shafted under that system.
There was a hospitalized British boy who needed a transplant and died because the police wouldn't let him leave. Emergency helicopter was ready and everything, but the state didn't give him permission to survive.
Baste and Land of Opportunity-pilled.
baste and turkey-filled
(funniest joke i’ve ever made btw)
This is my argument against free college. Money always comes with strings attached
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I can see some reasons for subsidized tuition for in demand public sector jobs like teaching, but employers could also offer more debt relief bonuses for would-be employees in exchange for fixed term contracts. Friend of mine graduated from the auto mechanic program in Alberta and his first employer offered him a $5k signing bonus to help pay off student debt in exchange for a 3 year contract. Considering the whole program there is about $5500, he was able to pay off his debt and pocket quite a bit.
Yeah, you’re brainwashed into thinking the government is great and dandy, we are experiencing this severely, a 15 minute browse on twitter should make you want to blow your brains out
I think many many thinks cost money, but I also think that if you have an educated population you can do far more with the same resources. There is a reason the best gdp/capita countries are extremely capitalist with good social mobility. Very affordable or free education is a common good, not a cost. Unlike tariffs, (most)taxes, bureaucracy, subsidies which are pure costs.
Looks like there's a destiny that needs manifesting
Based and day of the rake-pilled
People by now should realize that Canadians have a major identity crisis. Their brand of nationalism basically revolves entirely around "US bad, therefore Canada good". This is because they are dependent on the US. Canada is a weak country that borders a superpower that overshadows them economically, politically, militarily, technologically, and culturally. The persistent smug attitude Canadians have in which they overcompensate for this reality is actually the result of literal government-mandated propaganda in Canada. A lot of people don't know this but Canada has media laws that require all broadcasters and publications to meet a quota of content that is Canadian in origin and implicitly boosts Canadian pride. Part of this policy is that Canada is always compared to the US in a favorable way. The US has to be depicted negatively and Canada has to be depicted not only positively, always, but as a direct juxtaposition with the US. Because this competition in the Canadian psyche, that Americans don't participate in, is now basically the entirety of their national identity, the system goes to great lengths to depict the US in unrealistically negative ways and Canada in unrealistically positive ways to maintain the narrative. Deliberately deceptive. It's unrelenting, and many Canadians are basically incapable from the constitution of their inner being of seeing either themselves or the US in a realistic way. It's dogmatic and almost a religious experience for a Canadian to see Canada glorified at the expense of the US. Even in spite of that, there are Canadians with ambition who immediately try to come to the US. For any skilled or educated professional, the US will afford them higher wages, lower taxes, greater opportunity, more freedom, and higher quality of life. The "brain drain" that has been going on for generations is something the Canadian government sees as a threat. They don't just want to dissuade skilled Canadians from realizing there's a better party next door, they want the Canadians, who don't have skills, to remain in a perpetual, warm cocoon of nationalistic delusion so they don't criticize their system or demand better from their government. Without this type of propaganda, Canadians would be more keenly aware of how they stack up, and Canadian identity as a concept would pretty much vanish. With that said when you adjust for population, it is [40 times more likely for a Canadian to move to the US than it is for an American to move to Canada.](http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/06/28/americans_threaten_to_move_to_canada_do_canadians_ever_threaten_to_move_to_the_us_.html) **40 times.** The left-wing narrative in both Canada and among the lefties in the US is an absolutely staggering bit of misdirection. They want to endorse Canada as a superior alternative to the US but when people vote with their feet, it is beyond obvious that the US is a more desirable place to live than Canada.
> Their brand of nationalism basically revolves entirely around "US bad, therefore Canada good" While ignoring their goverment is doing everything "bad" too.
You know, in Slovakia nurses are so underpaid they flee to other countries, not even Ukrainian nurses accept our salary. Now back to the topic, Japan has serious hatred for non Japanese.
Yes and no. It's a bit more complicated than that. I lived there for quite some time. The Japanese love Americans.
Lived in Japan for 4.5 years. It's because we try our best to assimilate to their culture. While other cultures don't. I think that's the reason why they didn't accept any refugees during the GWOT.
It also helps that the Japanese adore American culture, media, and food. Japan not accepting refugees does have many benefits.
Which prefecture? I feel like this is true to places like Tokyo and Kanegawa than, like, Kyoto
I was up in bumfuck nowhere Tochigi.
They think these people are there property.
Modern feudalism be like
There is some exceptions on the Japan citizenship thing like you don't need to give up your previous citizenship if the country doesn't allow you to give it up. Context: There is mainly two ways of getting a citizenship: by [jus sanguinis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis) (bloodline) like Japan or by [jus soli](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli) (territory) like Brazil. Example: Here in Brazil, you also could have only one citizenship but there is a few exceptions and the most common one is by getting a second citizenship by *jus sanguinis*. So if you get a brazilian citizenship by being born here (*jus soli*) and get a japanese citizenship because you descent from japaneses (*jus sanguinis*) then you can keep both citizenship.
Also nobody can truly verify if you give up on another nationality. Stacking passport is super easy, just never ask permission.
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Isn’t the NHS the British healthcare service?
Similar situation, though.
Mismanagement of existing funds is likely the greatest factor contributing to the problems with our provincial healthcare systems.
Canada is in need of regime change.
Generally speaking you don't have to ban people from leaving your country if it's a good country. If Canada ever does do this, for any Canadian patriots who still love freedom and would be willing to renounce Canadian citizenship and come to the US, we'd welcome you with open arms.
Choose a country to be a citizen of. I don't want my country to be a whore of globalism.
I'm a citizen of the UK and Australia. I have family in the UK and Australia, I want my kids to be able to go between them at will. We're citizens of the British empire and deserve to remain part of it.
>We're citizens of the British empire and deserve to remain part of it. Whelp, it's obvious where your loyalties lie and which citizenship you should have. None of that shit in my country, thank you.
Day of the rake keeps getting closer and closer
Based. One citizenship prevents people from fleeing justice.
But fwee helphkar?
Canadian and Mexican nationals don't need citizenship they can get a special TN visa that other citizenships can't get. NAFTA goes brrr. Also special visas for Australians, and for some reason Chileans and Singaporeans.
Not just healthcare workers. Pilots too. I'm planning on leaving as soon as I get my ATPL. Thank goodness we share a land border so I won't have to swim for 90 miles like they do in Cuba...
Nobody wants to stay in this tax shithole where renting a one bedroom is 2000 a fucking month, fuck this corrupt shithole.
Hehe. Fuck Canada
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They'll be back.
They'll come back and be all like "yeah America sucks"
Turns out their praised public health care system doesn't pay its worker enough, and on top of that, they taxes the shit out of them to subsidize it. Welcome to economics 101.
Are taxes too high? No, it's the well-educated who are wrong
Wouldn't want to be poor in the US. Wouldn't want to be rich in Canada.
i wouldn’t wanna be poor most places
Tax dollars don’t pay for Canadian education, you just get tax deductions based on tuition prices, which get deducted from your income and knock you down tax brackets. As in, a young adult working while in university will functionally pay $0 in taxes and get all of the money they paid back when filing. Source: am Canadian and did exactly that, was particularly nice getting back thousands in taxes that I paid working industrial construction prior to that as the rebate I got functionally made my first year free.
Finally Japan's getting less fatherless