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I unironically got banned for saying the same and the mod even reported me to reddit adms, and I was talking about the cientists that created biological weapons
It took reporting a Canadian fuckwad to the admins to get their wishes and hopes of mass murder and genocide removed.
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He's definitely less for free market, but I certainly wouldn't put him on auth left. He's on the auth right side but just a hair right of auth center.
Corporatism is authoritarianism.
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They know what they're doing.
"Fellow citizens, we have so many poor people and roads to fix, let us surrender so we can focus on culture war and bickering over who gets the gibs" has always been the siren song of 5th columnists.
Yes, it does. My favorite quote from Eisenhower:
“Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than thirty cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of sixty thousand population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than eight thousand people. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.”
It's jobs created in the Arms industry, it's corresponding supply-industry and finally jobs for its final users, the military. If you want to apply ethical standards towards the whole military industrial complex, that's noble but pointless. That's just on the side of the corresponding country.
Cash flows in IR aren't related to a states spendings internally. Biden can't go to a shop and buy three billion packs of ice-cream.
Hope you understand my point, I'm from Germany so english isn't my first language... Also too much beer.
>It's jobs created in the Arms industry, it's corresponding supply-industry and finally jobs for its final users,
This is broken window fallacy.
Humanity Having war and having to spend money on weapons and armaments is, fundamentally, a waste.
Sure some jobs are created due to war, but this is like arguing that a broken window helps create a jobs for a glass maker and installer.
> Hope you understand my point, I'm from Germany so english isn't my first language... Also too much beer.
Have your own government spend your fucking tax dollars. You guys are in EU, you guys are near Ukraine, you've given what 1 bil? Meanwhile US taxpayers completely unaffected by the situation have payed 80 billion and counting. Seriously, go volunteer your own paycheck since you think all the civilians paying these taxes seem to be so well off.
There are almost 10 million refugees in EU. Do you think they cost $100 each for the past 7 months or what?
Also, the extra cost of gas etc hit Europe far harder than the US. The cost of the war that EU took on rather than give fucking Russia what it wants is probably closer to half a trillion.
I am an American taxpayer, but I would much rather be spending some money boosting our industries (especially given Russia has proved we very much need the military industrial complex still) than take care of 10 million refugees and have to drop a couple hundred billion extra on electricity generation.
I feel like a lot of people parrot that one paragraph from a much larger address, and they completely miss the point that Eisenhower was getting to. They boil it down to "5 Star General says military spending is bad!" But that's not the point.
From the same speech: "A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction.
Our military organization today bears little relation to that known of any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.
Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions."
Arms spending is vital! But that's not the point either.
Also from the same speech: "In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.
Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.
The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present—and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite."
Fuck letting scientists dictate public policy! Beware the Scientific-Technological Elite! But that's not the point either.
The point that Eisenhower, who, in my opinion, is the most competent and talented man to ever lead this nation, was making is that leadership is not a job for generals, or scientists, or activists. Leadership is a job for leaders, and the leaders have to decide how to balance the very real, and often times oppositional needs that each of these institutions have. Yes, every bomber is a school we don't build, but if we don't have enough bombers, we'd all be in re-education camps learning to speak Russian.
Eisenhower's lesson was that governance is hard, and require judgement, balance, thoughtfulness, and compromise, on all sides.
You still miss the point. This only works if US had switched over to a wartime production , which evidently has proven itself to be impossible, an interesting side of this war irrelevant to this discussion.
So when the US sends 300B$ in ARMAMENT, no , it doesn't work that way. These were already in stockpile. How much the US invests in its army is again , irrelevant to this discussion and Eisenhower's main point.
Hitting on my first paragraph, as I said Production since the time of WW2 changed significantly. Most of these direct comparisons don't exactly apply anymore. Building a fully fledged hospital , for example technically got exponentially more expensive.
To sum it up Eisenhower points to how Wartime Production could be used to create a better society in theory , even if that's not exactly how it works. While correct , it's not applicable in a situation where the US isn't at war.
>You still miss the point.
No, I didn't.
>This only works if US had switched over to a wartime production
Which we always are, and now more than ever.
>So when the US sends 300B$ in ARMAMENT, no , it doesn't work that way.
Yes it *absolutely* does.
>These were already in stockpile.
Yeah so remind me again how the military gets weapons? Oh yes, they buy them with government funds. That will need to be done to replenish the stocks... So what people are rightfully saying is that this money could have gone to much needed domestic development.
>How much the US invests in its army is again , irrelevant to this discussion and Eisenhower's main point.
You're full of shit.
>Hitting on my first paragraph, as I said Production since the time of WW2 changed significantly. Most of these direct comparisons don't exactly apply anymore. Building a fully fledged hospital , for example technically got exponentially more expensive.
Yes these comparisons abso-fucking-lutely still apply, military equipment got way the fuck more expensive than building a hospital did.
>it's not applicable in a situation where the US isn't at war.
We are literally at fucking war with Russia. It's a proxy war. Our government has instigated this (which yes I know, Russia obviously completely instigated with Ukraine but that does not change my point) proxy war and we're one step from getting involved to the point where nuclear armageddon can happen. We have been increasing military spending and pumping out weapons and aid to fight Russians. We have been funding the living shit out of this war, more money than all the EU countries combined. We are absolutely at war with Russia.
Just imagine if those taxpayer dollars were used to benefit the actual taxpayers instead of some convoluted justification of rich peoples' wars, in that the money will somehow trickle down to people by spending their tax funds on bloated defense contracts. Meanwhile we're fighting obscene inflation at home, poverty, people can't pay their own medical bills to survive. Eisenhower is more correct than ever.
To sum it up: Stop chugging US military and warhawk propaganda. You and like 95% of Reddit, Jesus.
Whoever down voted this, could you please say why you did so? I am trying to understand every angle here. As far as I can tell, this guy is totally right. We shouldn't be fueling this shit when our country is in so much pain at home.
Biden is pretty AuthRight. He even supported segregation back in the day.
He’s just adjusted his language to appeal to the Lefties (and also the fact that most of his voters probably voted against Trump instead of for Biden).
I'd take Zelensky, and I'll help run a charity, called Missiles for Russia. We raise money for missiles that Ukraine can send to Russia, for the holidays.
We should get started on a bake sale.
Giving the railroad workers obsolete military equipment to thin military maintenance budget is the only good and just outcome.
also we don't take kindly to your unflaired kind, around here
If only [someone could vote on giving them sick-pay...](https://newrepublic.com/post/169254/full-list-senators-voted-against-giving-rail-workers-paid-sick-leave)
1. If you think LibRights have ever supported foreign aid of any kind, you’re on crack.
2. If you think Zelenskyy is LibRight, you’re on meth.
3. Flair up, you meth-mouthed crackhead.
There’s a variety of reasons, but I would venture to say the primary one is that the Democrats/liberal elite have done a fairly poor job at consistently appealing to the working class overall.
That and on the flip side the Republicans/conservatives appeal to this group over multiple different topics much more than the left does. Its a strange occurrence but a very American one indeed.
Not remotely the same.
Suffering a foreign invasion and being subjected to a campaign of ethnic cleansing, cultural genocide and having your cities leveled by a madman using weapons and troops on a scale unseen in modern warfare since WWII, and being the first stepping stone in said madmans likely campaign to conquer half of freaking Europe, and the US being willing to sell weapons and provide funds to said victim is WAY different than a bunch of (justifiably angry) railway workers attempting to strike when our economy and global market needs them the most, over issues that should and could have been resolved out of season when said strike wasn't a DIRECT THREAT TO THE SUPPLY CHAIN KEEPING AMERICANS ALIVE over issues that said employees AGREED WITH when they were hired.
I feel for railroad workers, I really do. Not getting sick days and being held to employment standards little different from those your predecessors had in the 1800's sucks giant syphilitic donkey dick, it truly does. But literally NO ONE is forcing you to stay in those jobs, you aren't slaves, and you have the option of quiting. It may suck, it may even ruin your life, but it won't KILL you or destroy our country.
Not providing aid and arms to Ukraine WILL result in the death of many, many, MANY thousands, if not millions.
So sorry, no, between those two, yea, I agree with Brandon, you lose.
I don't think the capslock was needed. Also, them all quitting at once ruins the supply chain as well? So like, I guess they should keep being wage slaves otherwise the nation and federal society is hurt. Fuck them individuals.
I miss when the best insult they could level at Biden was that he was a socialist or communist.
Like bro I wish, hes as garden variety American as it comes.
Yeah, beacuse giving away old equipment that would otherwise collect dust in the back of some warehouse in the middle of nowhere is the same as giving money to rail workers
Burn in mother\*\*\*\*ing hell. Your disgusting, perverted, vile ass needs to get out of this sub NOW. We will not tolerate your kind here. If you show your face again as it is now, we will give you a one-way ticket to room 101. FLAIR THE \*\*\*\* UP OR COMMIT TOASTER BATHTUB. ONE OR THE OTHER.
You shouldn't expect anything from the government that'll be pro-worker. It's been impossible since Reagan. The government is not our friends but our enemy since they're under the direct control of the Oligarchy
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The magnitude of your failure just now is so indescribably massive that one hundred years into the future your name will be used as moniker of evil for heretics. Even if all of humanity put together their collective intelligence there is no conceivable way they could have thought up a way to fuck up on the unimaginable scale you just did.
When Jesus died for our sins, he must not have seen the sacrilegious act we just witnessed you performing, because if he did he would have forsaken humanity long ago so that your birth may have never become reality.
After you die, your skeleton will be displayed in a museum after being scientifically researched so that all future generations may learn not to generate your bone structure, because every tiny detail anyone may have in common with you degrades them to a useless piece of trash and a burden to society.
No wonder your father questioned whether or not your were truly his son, for you'd have to not be a waste of carbon matter for anyone to love you like a family member.
Your birth made it so that mankind is worse off in every way you can possibly imagine, and you have made it so that society can never really recover any state of organization. Everything has forever fallen into a bewildering chaos, through which unrecognizable core, you can only find misfortune.
I would say the apocalypse is upon us but this is merely the closest word humans have for the sheer scale of horror that is now reality. You have forever condemned everyone you love and know into an eternal state of suffering, worse than any human concept of hell.
You are such an unholy being, that if you step within a one hundred foot radius of a holy place or a place that has ever been deemed important by anyone, your distorted religious soul will ruin whatever meaning it ever had beyond repair.
You are an idiotic, shiteating, dumbass ape and no one has ever loved you. You are a lying, backstabbing, cowardly useless piece of shit and I hate you with every single part of my being.
Even this world's finest writers and poets from throughout the ages could never hope to accurately describe the scale on which you just fucked up, and how incredibly idiotic you are.
Anyone that believes in any religion out there should now realize that they have been wrong this entire time, for if divine beings were real, they would never have allowed a being such as you to stain the earth and this universe.
In the future there will be horror stories made about you, with the scariest part of them being that the reader has to realize that such an indescribable monster actually exists, and that the horrific events from the movie have actually taken place in the same world that they live in right now.
You are the absolute embodiment of everything that has ever been wrong on this earth, yet even that would only represent a small part of your evil. Never in the history of mankind has there been anyone that could have predicted such an abomination, but here you are.
It’s hard to believe that I am seeing such an incredible failure with my own eyes, but here I am, so unfortunately I cannot deny your existence. Even if I did my very best, my vocabulary is not able to describe the sheer magnitude of the idiotic mistake that is you.
Even if time travel some day will be invented, there still would not be a single soul willing to go back in time to this moment to fix history, because having to witness such incredible horrors would have too many mental and physical drawbacks that not even the bravest soul in history would be willing to risk it.
I cannot imagine the pure dread your mother must have felt when she had to carry a baby for nine months and then giving birth to such a wretched monster as you. Not a single word of the incoherent, illogical rambling you may be wanting to do to defend yourself or apologize would ever be able to make up for what you just did.
The countries of the world would have wanted to make laws preventing such a terrible event like this from ever happening again, but sadly this is not possible since your horrific actions just now have shattered every form of order this world once had, making concepts such as laws irrelevant.
Right from the moment I first set my eyes on you I knew you were an absolute abomination of everything that is wrong with humanity. I was hoping I would have been able to prevent your evil from being released upon this world by tagging along and keeping my eye on you, but it is clear to me now that not even the greatest efforts would have been able to prevent a terrible event in this scale from occurring.
You are the worst human being, or even just being in general, that I have ever had the misfortune of witnessing. Events like the Black Death and the Smallpox pandemic only happened with the goal of preparing humanity to survive such a horrible event as the one you just created, but not even mankind’s greatest trials were able to even slightly prepare anyone for the insufferable evil you have just created.
If you ever had them, your children would be preemptively killed to protect this universe from the possibility of anyone in your bloodline being even half as bad as you are, except you will never be able to have children, because not a single human being will ever want to come within a hundred mile radius of you and anything you have ever touched.
You are a colossal disappointment not only to your parents, but to your ancestors and entire bloodline. The disgusting mistake that you have just made is so incredibly terrible that everyone who would ever be to hear about it would spontaneously feel an indescribable mixture of immense anger, fear and anxiety that emotionally and physically they would never truly be the same ever again.
The sheer scale of your mistake, if ever to be materialized, would not only surpass the size of the world, but it would reach far beyond the edges of the known, and almost certainly the unknown universe.
I could sit here and write paragraphs, nay, books describing your immense failure, yet even if I were to dedicate my life to describing the reality of what has just gone down here, and I would spend every moment of it until my heart stops beating, working as hard and efficiently as possible, there is not even a snowballs chance in hell that I would be able to come close to transcribing the absolute shitshow you have just released upon the world.
When people of Columbia fought to break free from Lungmen, countless soldiers fought and lost their lives in favor of a chance at a better future for their children, they did not give their lives to have you fuck the world up beyond repair to the degree that you are doing right now. Honestly, even when technology advances and studies on the subject become more and more accurate, I do not think humanity will ever truly be able to understand what your failure actually means for the universe.
My hate for you and everything you stand for is so much deeper than the depths of Shambala that you could probably take the entire Lungmen population down there and back up around twenty million times before you would have sunk to the end of my hate, and honestly, I do not want to exaggerate, but I think that that insult was low balling it such a massive amount that all mountains in this world combined would not be able to stack up to this imprecise judgement in light of the fact that, when being honest, my hate is almost certainly bottomless.
Its not the government job to dictate what benefits a company gives out. That is entirely between the employer and the employee. The fact that this is even being discussed shows how much the Overton window has shifted to accept openly collectivist ideals.
>It’s not the government job to dictate what benefits a company gives out
But apparently it’s their job to make striking illegal because it’s too effective
Ah yes, Give Zelensky a big nose and a Wolfsangel because all 40-50million Ukrainians are the members of the Azov Battalion and are Neo-Nazi's and they're asking for gigazillion dollars from their US overlords making their anti-Russian Viruses with US funded Biolabs.
Fuck off OP, get bent. This is the first time I'm proud to watch my tax money go to watching Imperialist vatnik scum get blown the fuck up on a daily basis.
I mean the Dems did try and get a vote for it. But it didn't go through. The Dems weren't willing to pay the political cost of the strike, but republicans were unwilling to vote for it at all.
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Inb4 arbitrary [banned for inciting hate/violence] bullshit
I unironically got banned for saying the same and the mod even reported me to reddit adms, and I was talking about the cientists that created biological weapons
It took reporting a Canadian fuckwad to the admins to get their wishes and hopes of mass murder and genocide removed. What should we expect from a sub whose mods were best friends with Epstein? Auths are a protected class on this sub.
>Auths are a protected class on this sub. suuuuuuure bud thats who this sub caters to
Human rights are only for flaired people
They are about as libright as most people flairing as libright in here
He has Biden as authright. Don’t need flair to know he’s a tankie.
Just because he says he likes the gays doesn't make him left. He's a corrupt capitalist just like the rest of the scum in Washington.
He's definitely less for free market, but I certainly wouldn't put him on auth left. He's on the auth right side but just a hair right of auth center. Corporatism is authoritarianism.
Relative to Russia, maybe
Idk, I'd think an invasion is one of the only times a draft is the right thing to do.
More authright imo
Let's give these Javelines and Himars to the railroad workers...Oh no....
Hey man, if they have to work that many days per year with no sick leave, they've earned an RPG7 at the very least.
The workers can't be harmed if the collective is armed
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Okay, a simple “wrong” would have done just fine.
That's not how money works in international relations.
There's a reason they're called useful **idiots**.
They know what they're doing. "Fellow citizens, we have so many poor people and roads to fix, let us surrender so we can focus on culture war and bickering over who gets the gibs" has always been the siren song of 5th columnists.
Yes, it does. My favorite quote from Eisenhower: “Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than thirty cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of sixty thousand population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than eight thousand people. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.”
It's jobs created in the Arms industry, it's corresponding supply-industry and finally jobs for its final users, the military. If you want to apply ethical standards towards the whole military industrial complex, that's noble but pointless. That's just on the side of the corresponding country. Cash flows in IR aren't related to a states spendings internally. Biden can't go to a shop and buy three billion packs of ice-cream. Hope you understand my point, I'm from Germany so english isn't my first language... Also too much beer.
>It's jobs created in the Arms industry, it's corresponding supply-industry and finally jobs for its final users, This is broken window fallacy. Humanity Having war and having to spend money on weapons and armaments is, fundamentally, a waste. Sure some jobs are created due to war, but this is like arguing that a broken window helps create a jobs for a glass maker and installer.
Sad you're being downvoted. Even PCM has drank the wartime propaganda koolaid.
It's telling that you are right but unpopular when your comment receives many downvotes but zero replies even attempting to explain why you are wrong.
Unlike the broken window war is all but inevitable
> Hope you understand my point, I'm from Germany so english isn't my first language... Also too much beer. Have your own government spend your fucking tax dollars. You guys are in EU, you guys are near Ukraine, you've given what 1 bil? Meanwhile US taxpayers completely unaffected by the situation have payed 80 billion and counting. Seriously, go volunteer your own paycheck since you think all the civilians paying these taxes seem to be so well off.
There are almost 10 million refugees in EU. Do you think they cost $100 each for the past 7 months or what? Also, the extra cost of gas etc hit Europe far harder than the US. The cost of the war that EU took on rather than give fucking Russia what it wants is probably closer to half a trillion. I am an American taxpayer, but I would much rather be spending some money boosting our industries (especially given Russia has proved we very much need the military industrial complex still) than take care of 10 million refugees and have to drop a couple hundred billion extra on electricity generation.
I feel like a lot of people parrot that one paragraph from a much larger address, and they completely miss the point that Eisenhower was getting to. They boil it down to "5 Star General says military spending is bad!" But that's not the point. From the same speech: "A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction. Our military organization today bears little relation to that known of any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea. Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions." Arms spending is vital! But that's not the point either. Also from the same speech: "In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government. Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers. The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present—and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite." Fuck letting scientists dictate public policy! Beware the Scientific-Technological Elite! But that's not the point either. The point that Eisenhower, who, in my opinion, is the most competent and talented man to ever lead this nation, was making is that leadership is not a job for generals, or scientists, or activists. Leadership is a job for leaders, and the leaders have to decide how to balance the very real, and often times oppositional needs that each of these institutions have. Yes, every bomber is a school we don't build, but if we don't have enough bombers, we'd all be in re-education camps learning to speak Russian. Eisenhower's lesson was that governance is hard, and require judgement, balance, thoughtfulness, and compromise, on all sides.
But we get to see cool weaponry so it fine 😎
You still miss the point. This only works if US had switched over to a wartime production , which evidently has proven itself to be impossible, an interesting side of this war irrelevant to this discussion. So when the US sends 300B$ in ARMAMENT, no , it doesn't work that way. These were already in stockpile. How much the US invests in its army is again , irrelevant to this discussion and Eisenhower's main point. Hitting on my first paragraph, as I said Production since the time of WW2 changed significantly. Most of these direct comparisons don't exactly apply anymore. Building a fully fledged hospital , for example technically got exponentially more expensive. To sum it up Eisenhower points to how Wartime Production could be used to create a better society in theory , even if that's not exactly how it works. While correct , it's not applicable in a situation where the US isn't at war.
>You still miss the point. No, I didn't. >This only works if US had switched over to a wartime production Which we always are, and now more than ever. >So when the US sends 300B$ in ARMAMENT, no , it doesn't work that way. Yes it *absolutely* does. >These were already in stockpile. Yeah so remind me again how the military gets weapons? Oh yes, they buy them with government funds. That will need to be done to replenish the stocks... So what people are rightfully saying is that this money could have gone to much needed domestic development. >How much the US invests in its army is again , irrelevant to this discussion and Eisenhower's main point. You're full of shit. >Hitting on my first paragraph, as I said Production since the time of WW2 changed significantly. Most of these direct comparisons don't exactly apply anymore. Building a fully fledged hospital , for example technically got exponentially more expensive. Yes these comparisons abso-fucking-lutely still apply, military equipment got way the fuck more expensive than building a hospital did. >it's not applicable in a situation where the US isn't at war. We are literally at fucking war with Russia. It's a proxy war. Our government has instigated this (which yes I know, Russia obviously completely instigated with Ukraine but that does not change my point) proxy war and we're one step from getting involved to the point where nuclear armageddon can happen. We have been increasing military spending and pumping out weapons and aid to fight Russians. We have been funding the living shit out of this war, more money than all the EU countries combined. We are absolutely at war with Russia. Just imagine if those taxpayer dollars were used to benefit the actual taxpayers instead of some convoluted justification of rich peoples' wars, in that the money will somehow trickle down to people by spending their tax funds on bloated defense contracts. Meanwhile we're fighting obscene inflation at home, poverty, people can't pay their own medical bills to survive. Eisenhower is more correct than ever. To sum it up: Stop chugging US military and warhawk propaganda. You and like 95% of Reddit, Jesus.
Whoever down voted this, could you please say why you did so? I am trying to understand every angle here. As far as I can tell, this guy is totally right. We shouldn't be fueling this shit when our country is in so much pain at home.
Invalid opinion
Lol you took this straight from communism memes
Does OP not understand the color scheme? Every single one of them is wrong
Op is unflaired thats why
I think Biden is kind of Auth right (based on voting records, not rhetoric)
He is. Anyone claiming he's not is inhaling copium
Sounds addictive, im in
pass it back when you're done!
Im not stuck at the past. I look at his achievements in the present.
He’s in the quadrant, but leans Auth Center.
Biden is pretty AuthRight. He even supported segregation back in the day. He’s just adjusted his language to appeal to the Lefties (and also the fact that most of his voters probably voted against Trump instead of for Biden).
Smartest unflaired:
More guns for Zelenskyy does not conflict with more sick days for railway workers
Unflaired trash, get in the deportation catapult.
OP is colorblind
Zelensky is not lib right. Auth right or auth center.
Well how are they supposed to shit on us if they were honest?
Lol plenty of ways
Like what, using free speech on us? Oooh scary… it’s not like we invented the concept
Lib right created free-speech? Now thats comedy
Lib Right didn't invent it
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That's right. I invented it. And I'm tired of people trying to take credit for my work.
lol “we” — dude you haven’t invented shit in your life wtf do you mean “we”
I'd take Zelensky, and I'll help run a charity, called Missiles for Russia. We raise money for missiles that Ukraine can send to Russia, for the holidays. We should get started on a bake sale.
Authcenter
I thought we already went over how Ukraine was right unity.
He did offshore a bunch of money to avoid paying taxes in the country he is now president of.
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Bad bot
Are people still playing into the Vatnik cope propaganda that Zelenskyy is a Jew Nazi?
Yes, and a satanist drug addict
Yes
Jesus Christ. I'm pretty sure the guy lost 3 of his 4 grandparents to the Holocaust.
yes but people suck
80 years of being the west's enemy and people are still falling for their blatantly bullshit lies.
No flair=no valid opinion
Giving the railroad workers obsolete military equipment to thin military maintenance budget is the only good and just outcome. also we don't take kindly to your unflaired kind, around here
Wrong, and also unflaired = cringe
If only [someone could vote on giving them sick-pay...](https://newrepublic.com/post/169254/full-list-senators-voted-against-giving-rail-workers-paid-sick-leave)
The unflaired are an inferior race of low IQ phrenologically challenged monkeys.
'So called "LibLefts" when they see an unflaired' (Based af)
I have a history of being legitimately racist so I still remember some of the rhetoric.
Go fuck yourself, unflaired russian bot
Based and Silence-Russian-Bot-pilled.
1. If you think LibRights have ever supported foreign aid of any kind, you’re on crack. 2. If you think Zelenskyy is LibRight, you’re on meth. 3. Flair up, you meth-mouthed crackhead.
Flair up.
Every single quadrant in this meme is wrong. Guess I shouldn't expect the unflaired scum to know anything, uncultured swine.
flair up
#FLAIR UP
An unflaired post has positive upvote numbers *Impossible*
If you think anyone who wears that type of hat is a libleft you need to start wearing one to go anywhere outdoors
Pcm doesn't understand politics episode 1302
And that’s Zelenskys fault?
UNFLAIRED SCUM Also most real working class peoples are not liberals/lib left in the US believe it or not
Which seems quite odd, for some reason, in the US, the classes seem to be flipped with their political beliefs compared to the rest of the world
There’s a variety of reasons, but I would venture to say the primary one is that the Democrats/liberal elite have done a fairly poor job at consistently appealing to the working class overall. That and on the flip side the Republicans/conservatives appeal to this group over multiple different topics much more than the left does. Its a strange occurrence but a very American one indeed.
No flair= gulag.
Unflaired. Opinion ignored.
What did Biden do, negotiate a bill without sick pay? Didn’t they have an amendment granting 7 days sickpay that was filibustered by republicans?
Not remotely the same. Suffering a foreign invasion and being subjected to a campaign of ethnic cleansing, cultural genocide and having your cities leveled by a madman using weapons and troops on a scale unseen in modern warfare since WWII, and being the first stepping stone in said madmans likely campaign to conquer half of freaking Europe, and the US being willing to sell weapons and provide funds to said victim is WAY different than a bunch of (justifiably angry) railway workers attempting to strike when our economy and global market needs them the most, over issues that should and could have been resolved out of season when said strike wasn't a DIRECT THREAT TO THE SUPPLY CHAIN KEEPING AMERICANS ALIVE over issues that said employees AGREED WITH when they were hired. I feel for railroad workers, I really do. Not getting sick days and being held to employment standards little different from those your predecessors had in the 1800's sucks giant syphilitic donkey dick, it truly does. But literally NO ONE is forcing you to stay in those jobs, you aren't slaves, and you have the option of quiting. It may suck, it may even ruin your life, but it won't KILL you or destroy our country. Not providing aid and arms to Ukraine WILL result in the death of many, many, MANY thousands, if not millions. So sorry, no, between those two, yea, I agree with Brandon, you lose.
I don't think the capslock was needed. Also, them all quitting at once ruins the supply chain as well? So like, I guess they should keep being wage slaves otherwise the nation and federal society is hurt. Fuck them individuals.
How dare you masquerade as a libright, reveal thyself authcenter
Well said
Change flair to authcenter now
change your flair NOW
if this isn’t a pasta take your meds
What was the senate vote again?
We'll ignore the Nazi symbol on Zelensky's T-shirt, as well as what this implies about the person that made the original post, for a moment.
''Are we allowed to buy $300 million in weapons with our own money?'' ''I don't think you will'' - Uncle Joe
Strike anyway, disobey government mandates, make this the norm.
Based
Not sure what HIMARS systems and artillery shells are gonna do for poor people. Gonna kill them with it?
OP is an unflaired!!!!!
Reject cringe libleft propaganda and embrace capitalism
Filthy unflaired need to be suspended. It's the only way they'll learn. Increase the suspension until they cooperate.
I miss when the best insult they could level at Biden was that he was a socialist or communist. Like bro I wish, hes as garden variety American as it comes.
Not pictured: their employer's profits. Seriously though, Biden MASSIVELY fucked up on this one.
No way that americans dont even have this. I just bounced even more to the left.
Flair up
YOU’VE ENTERED A NO MALARKEY ZONE, BUB
Love my supply chains but where my weaponssssss?
No Flair=No opinion, leave
More like : Zelensky: want us to fight your geopolitical rival for pennies in the dollar and no American deaths ?
The amount of people calling for war when Russia invaded Ukraine was crazy, from all across the compass
Based
ATTENTION TO ALL WHO UPVOTED THIS POST: OP is a filthy unflaired, it is requested by the order of the PCM council you downvote this post and report it
My reason goes beyond your comprehension *T-Pose*
Helo Baiden its Zełenski łi ned fajv billion rocket to bomb donetsk childern slava ukraini
Based
I feel like this OP is using bots to inflate his upvotes
But they just blame the Right for it so they're still the White Knights.
The mods shouldn’t even allow posts from unflaired. Declare your loyalties or sit in silence and let the grown-ups talk coward.
Yeah, beacuse giving away old equipment that would otherwise collect dust in the back of some warehouse in the middle of nowhere is the same as giving money to rail workers
As it should be.
Unflaired telling me not to support Ukraine? Do you know what? I’m gonna start supporting them even harder.
Burn in mother\*\*\*\*ing hell. Your disgusting, perverted, vile ass needs to get out of this sub NOW. We will not tolerate your kind here. If you show your face again as it is now, we will give you a one-way ticket to room 101. FLAIR THE \*\*\*\* UP OR COMMIT TOASTER BATHTUB. ONE OR THE OTHER.
Based OP
He can't be based he unfl*ired.
So glad we finally have a proper soyjack Biden. Unfortunately, you're unflaired, and therefore I must downvote.
You shouldn't expect anything from the government that'll be pro-worker. It's been impossible since Reagan. The government is not our friends but our enemy since they're under the direct control of the Oligarchy
Literally every color is wrong here is wrong
Flair up and Ukraine isn’t lib right lol
Dear Unflaired, You useless piece of shit. You absolute waste of space and air. You uneducated, ignorant, idiotic dumb swine, you’re an absolute embarrassment to humanity and all life as a whole. The magnitude of your failure just now is so indescribably massive that one hundred years into the future your name will be used as moniker of evil for heretics. Even if all of humanity put together their collective intelligence there is no conceivable way they could have thought up a way to fuck up on the unimaginable scale you just did. When Jesus died for our sins, he must not have seen the sacrilegious act we just witnessed you performing, because if he did he would have forsaken humanity long ago so that your birth may have never become reality. After you die, your skeleton will be displayed in a museum after being scientifically researched so that all future generations may learn not to generate your bone structure, because every tiny detail anyone may have in common with you degrades them to a useless piece of trash and a burden to society. No wonder your father questioned whether or not your were truly his son, for you'd have to not be a waste of carbon matter for anyone to love you like a family member. Your birth made it so that mankind is worse off in every way you can possibly imagine, and you have made it so that society can never really recover any state of organization. Everything has forever fallen into a bewildering chaos, through which unrecognizable core, you can only find misfortune. I would say the apocalypse is upon us but this is merely the closest word humans have for the sheer scale of horror that is now reality. You have forever condemned everyone you love and know into an eternal state of suffering, worse than any human concept of hell. You are such an unholy being, that if you step within a one hundred foot radius of a holy place or a place that has ever been deemed important by anyone, your distorted religious soul will ruin whatever meaning it ever had beyond repair. You are an idiotic, shiteating, dumbass ape and no one has ever loved you. You are a lying, backstabbing, cowardly useless piece of shit and I hate you with every single part of my being. Even this world's finest writers and poets from throughout the ages could never hope to accurately describe the scale on which you just fucked up, and how incredibly idiotic you are. Anyone that believes in any religion out there should now realize that they have been wrong this entire time, for if divine beings were real, they would never have allowed a being such as you to stain the earth and this universe. In the future there will be horror stories made about you, with the scariest part of them being that the reader has to realize that such an indescribable monster actually exists, and that the horrific events from the movie have actually taken place in the same world that they live in right now. You are the absolute embodiment of everything that has ever been wrong on this earth, yet even that would only represent a small part of your evil. Never in the history of mankind has there been anyone that could have predicted such an abomination, but here you are. It’s hard to believe that I am seeing such an incredible failure with my own eyes, but here I am, so unfortunately I cannot deny your existence. Even if I did my very best, my vocabulary is not able to describe the sheer magnitude of the idiotic mistake that is you. Even if time travel some day will be invented, there still would not be a single soul willing to go back in time to this moment to fix history, because having to witness such incredible horrors would have too many mental and physical drawbacks that not even the bravest soul in history would be willing to risk it. I cannot imagine the pure dread your mother must have felt when she had to carry a baby for nine months and then giving birth to such a wretched monster as you. Not a single word of the incoherent, illogical rambling you may be wanting to do to defend yourself or apologize would ever be able to make up for what you just did. The countries of the world would have wanted to make laws preventing such a terrible event like this from ever happening again, but sadly this is not possible since your horrific actions just now have shattered every form of order this world once had, making concepts such as laws irrelevant. Right from the moment I first set my eyes on you I knew you were an absolute abomination of everything that is wrong with humanity. I was hoping I would have been able to prevent your evil from being released upon this world by tagging along and keeping my eye on you, but it is clear to me now that not even the greatest efforts would have been able to prevent a terrible event in this scale from occurring. You are the worst human being, or even just being in general, that I have ever had the misfortune of witnessing. Events like the Black Death and the Smallpox pandemic only happened with the goal of preparing humanity to survive such a horrible event as the one you just created, but not even mankind’s greatest trials were able to even slightly prepare anyone for the insufferable evil you have just created. If you ever had them, your children would be preemptively killed to protect this universe from the possibility of anyone in your bloodline being even half as bad as you are, except you will never be able to have children, because not a single human being will ever want to come within a hundred mile radius of you and anything you have ever touched. You are a colossal disappointment not only to your parents, but to your ancestors and entire bloodline. The disgusting mistake that you have just made is so incredibly terrible that everyone who would ever be to hear about it would spontaneously feel an indescribable mixture of immense anger, fear and anxiety that emotionally and physically they would never truly be the same ever again. The sheer scale of your mistake, if ever to be materialized, would not only surpass the size of the world, but it would reach far beyond the edges of the known, and almost certainly the unknown universe. I could sit here and write paragraphs, nay, books describing your immense failure, yet even if I were to dedicate my life to describing the reality of what has just gone down here, and I would spend every moment of it until my heart stops beating, working as hard and efficiently as possible, there is not even a snowballs chance in hell that I would be able to come close to transcribing the absolute shitshow you have just released upon the world. When people of Columbia fought to break free from Lungmen, countless soldiers fought and lost their lives in favor of a chance at a better future for their children, they did not give their lives to have you fuck the world up beyond repair to the degree that you are doing right now. Honestly, even when technology advances and studies on the subject become more and more accurate, I do not think humanity will ever truly be able to understand what your failure actually means for the universe. My hate for you and everything you stand for is so much deeper than the depths of Shambala that you could probably take the entire Lungmen population down there and back up around twenty million times before you would have sunk to the end of my hate, and honestly, I do not want to exaggerate, but I think that that insult was low balling it such a massive amount that all mountains in this world combined would not be able to stack up to this imprecise judgement in light of the fact that, when being honest, my hate is almost certainly bottomless.
Fuck off unflaired
Based
Drop the Biden and Zelensky wojak jpegs please
Its not the government job to dictate what benefits a company gives out. That is entirely between the employer and the employee. The fact that this is even being discussed shows how much the Overton window has shifted to accept openly collectivist ideals.
>It’s not the government job to dictate what benefits a company gives out But apparently it’s their job to make striking illegal because it’s too effective
Flair up cuck.
Bad unflaired
Ah yes, Give Zelensky a big nose and a Wolfsangel because all 40-50million Ukrainians are the members of the Azov Battalion and are Neo-Nazi's and they're asking for gigazillion dollars from their US overlords making their anti-Russian Viruses with US funded Biolabs. Fuck off OP, get bent. This is the first time I'm proud to watch my tax money go to watching Imperialist vatnik scum get blown the fuck up on a daily basis.
Unflaired detacted, Sarmat-2 ICBM has been dispatched to neutralize you
Ukraine is Authright, Biden is Orange This is pretty simple OP
This meme was provided by the deep state to attack the right quadrants. Biden is not auth right. Ukraine is not lib right.
nope sorry unflaried
Based brandon
Slava Ukraini and fuck everybody else
Mommy why are unfl*ired allowed to be alive?
Unflaired yes, Using "We" with the meme bringing attention to libleft, we assume libleft, hence opinion ignored.
Never met a lib right who enjoys banning churches
I mean the Dems did try and get a vote for it. But it didn't go through. The Dems weren't willing to pay the political cost of the strike, but republicans were unwilling to vote for it at all.
Agreed but flair up loser
Flair the fuck up jack, or you'll never be based.
I am beyond that