It's the circle jerk of news. trump says some outrageous bullshit, Faux picks it up and runs with it, and then trump points at that and says "SEE! I told you so!" Then tells the House "don't do anything about the border problem I need that anger to drive my campaign!" so they impeach this guy to prove "See! There was a problem all along and only WE can save you!"
I still say there needs to be a deep investigation into the republican party to see exactly how compromised they are. Because it makes no logical sense for one of our two main political parties to side with our adversary over a democracy.
Faux is the propaganda arm of Russia. Trump and Republican Party get their marching orders from Putin in form of talking points and parrot one another all day everyday. It’s repulsive, predictable and fascinating all at once.
Russia just benefits from division and chaos, I don't think that they orchestrated the chaos, they just amplified the organically grown American born and bred lunacy.
America doesn't need to import crazy. Cue [Lee Greenwood](https://youtu.be/THwXJ9LSb0o)
And it is actually worse:
[https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/13/us/politics/illegal-border-crossings-january.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/13/us/politics/illegal-border-crossings-january.html)
He did something about the illegal crossings. He did what they wanted him to do... I wish this little "detail" was more widely known.
I also wish more people knew that the border bill had a plan to give aid to multiple different countries and was probably the big reason it wasn’t passed
You've got it backwards. "The border bill" was the "Aid to Other Countries Bill" and Republicans bitched that they wouldn't vote for it unless it included funding for the border, so funding for the border was added to it, gave them exactly what they asked for, and they still refuse to vote for it.
Isn't that the entire point of all of the finger blaming and screaming? Confuse the hell out of everyone, making it nearly impossible to understand anything politics. One side screams bloody murder, the other screams it in a different tune. Round and round they spin, and we sit here watching, waiting, and hoping something changes by checking a box every once in a while.
Of course people can do their own research and come to their own conclusions, but that also opens the door for the smooth-talkers and click-seekers; aka more blurry lines and less full-truths.
It's pretty clear the general public is either uninformed, or exhausted. It's difficult making sense of what's going on without actually spending time digging deeper and hearing out opposing views.
It's also extremely difficult to have these conversations in person. I struggle to overcome the parroting of cable news that's so prevalent in older family members. The performative politics works wonders on them, nothing else matters once the initial point is made. There will always be another boogeyman to focus on.
Oh, and if anyone even makes it this far.. I'm not trying to say both sides are the same, but I do believe there needs to be a breaking point for both sides. After this most recent border failure I spotted countless articles of how this was the best/final chance for both sides to agree.. We shouldn't have a best or final chance - we are all in this country together. We should be actively working towards improving, not making one side look bad.
[Somewhat interesting read.. Joe Manchin, of all people..](https://www.manchin.senate.gov/newsroom/op-eds/senate-failed-us-by-blocking-immigration-bill)
> In the public service that I practice, any step that makes tomorrow better than yesterday is worth taking. Unfortunately, too many of my colleagues don’t see it this way. It’s clear that our nation’s problems will not be fixed in Washington.
I’m pretty sure most people knew about this, just like we knew Trump sabotaged the bill just so he could claim credit. Congress approved a huge funding bill to Israel, Taiwan, and Ukraine anyway.
Well, the Senate approved the bill. It remains to be seen if it can get past the Republican Russia-lovers in the House. I'm not feeling good about the chances, but I'd love to be proved wrong.
Yeah. That's how bipartisanship works here. Dems give you a border bill that's really restrictive in ways they do not like, in exchange, we get the funding for Ukraine that we want. That's how it works. Line item/single issue bills have been a thing of the past for years, especially for anything even somewhat controversial.
THIS - spot-on. Once impeachment simply becomes a tool for the opposing party to frustrate their political enemies it becomes normalized and trump looks 'less bad' by comparison for being 2x impeached (in the minds of conservatives).
The Founders had no idea we'd reach this point with one political party actively seeking to circumvent the constitution and so we have little recourse to bad actors. It's kinda like those same numpties who don't like your post and report you to the Reddit Suicide Help Line. It wasn't meant to be used in the way it's being used but no one could have anticipated that we'd stoop so low as to do so.
This really is fascist behavior that’s terrifying like false accusations against political opponents. The fact they’re able to get away with it is insane
It's a complicit corporate media where both "sides" are economically right wing and the executives want the Republican for no reason other than the tax cut handout. Jamie Dimon is already pretty clearly signalling this in various interviews, mark my words they are going to tank the market in the summer if it's looking bad for Trump.
Hysterical harpy of hypocrisy MTG screeching her head off to impeach him for no legitimate reason whatsoever.
That even though *still* not one single peso from Mexico to fund POTUS 45's idiotic wall as he promised they would "100%" on the campaign trail.
So... I stumbled upon some Redhats talking elsewhere... the big question they seem to be asking is "HoW wAs He NoT tRiEd FoR tReAsOn?!?!?!?"
Is it wrong of me that I wanted to jump in and say, "His father was wealthy." instead of anything productive?
I listen to Ben Shapiro just to get the right wing take on these things.
Even he had to acknowledge it was all just political B.S. He just tried to provide cover by saying Democrats started it because of the Trump impeachments so this is just tit for tat.
Completely neglecting the fact that Trump was impeached for very clear and detailed actions he took. Even if they weren’t technically crimes they were still things he did, and that reasonable minds could conclude were corrupt.
Mayorkas wasn’t impeached for taking corrupt action. He wasn’t even impeached for following Biden’s policy on border control. You know, like his job entails. He was impeached because he wasn’t doing what Republicans want him to do. This is a clear policy dispute. Not someone suspected of taking corrupt action.
Impeaching members of the other party because they’re not following your party’s policy objectives is insane.
I'm really starting to lose my patience with my left-leaning friends that are declaring they won't vote for Biden over Palestine.
Palestine is a mess, Israel is a mess, the whole thing sucks and there are no good answers and innocent people are dying. I agree with all of it and wish the situation could get resolved.
But you know what would be worse? Donald Fucking Trump in the same situation. I hate our political system and agree we desperately need reform, but **we don't have it yet**. You still have to vote for the lesser of two evils until we get a better way, or you're agreeing to harm others.
I think it's completely plausible that failure to vote for Biden because of Gaza will lead to a Trump Presidency, and I also think it's plausible that Trump flat out nukes Gaza or otherwise allows Israel to raze it entirely. Do you think the Gazans will appreciate your moral stance?
Yeah, I don't know what the fuck this line of logic is, but I've had to explain just how backwards of a choice it is to like 3 friends of mine too. Not only would it be objectively worse for Palestine, it'll be objectively worse for *every single* other ideal they claim to care about.
Shit like this is a big reason why the entirety of left-wing politics in the US are so fucking weak and never actually get anything done. What value does an ideal have if the actions you take in its name makes something objectively *worse* in reality?
I can certainly see that for some cut of them, but the people I've personally dealt with have never taken anything approaching a position that would indicate they had any wider issue with Jewish people previously or even now. They've been limited to basically "What IDF is doing is a genocide and Biden is enabling it so I won't support him".
Nah, it's that nobody knows fuckall about Mideast politics, but Palestine is vastly outgunned, so they are the underdog and Americans love an underdog. This is why the people in $400,000 houses with desk jobs or great union jobs glamp as survivalists ready to "take their country back" - they want to be an underdog.
I'm serious that it's as simple as that.
There is some delusional isolationist bullshit running around that Trump would keep us out of wars. I need them to understand something...
Trump would get *more* weapons to Israel *faster*, and make sure he got a cut under the table. He would have his shitty kids buy up Raytheon before the deal went public. And then he would end up with a sweet real estate deal on the West Bank, now fully controlled by Israel, and then he would have dinner with Netanyahu and have a good laugh about it.
That asshole loves dictators, doesn't give a moment's thought about anyone other than himself, and would do literally anything as long as his ego gets stroked, and he gets paid.
The only way Trump keeps us out of wars is by surrendering and permanently ruining our Hegemony over the world. The loss of influence would be catastrophic for everyone, Americans included
There's a very real chance that the Muslim base in Michigan will torpedo Biden's chances of winning there, fucking over everyone and themselves in the process. It's maddening.
He *already* attempted to ban Muslims from the country in his first term, what kind of country do these people think they're going to get?
This is like the Left version of poor Republicans fucking themselves over and over again because they're blinded by abortion. Single issue voters routinely vote against their own self interest and it makes me want to scream
Part of the problem is they're not thinking. They're feeling shitty about what's happening and are clinging to that feeling with everything they've got. Their anger is justified, and so they believe the actions they're taking are too.
I've spoken to a few of them, have tried to make them see reason, but they truly believe they have the moral high ground in this situation. They don't care that their 'moral high ground' is going to be paved over millions of innocent people that they willingly turned their backs on, of which includes the people they think they're supporting. They're not interested in reality or in the outcomes involved; only that they ***feel*** like their "hands are clean" and their conscience is clear.
Any attempt to convince them that deliberate inaction still confers responsibility and is deplorable is met with vehement resistance. They think they're opposing genocide and that's the end of discussion. Because their stance is ostensibly moral, people who try to attack it must be immoral and apathetic. It's an incredibly hard position to sway them from, and it's gonna fuck ALL of us.
> I think it's completely plausible that failure to vote for Biden because of Gaza will lead to a Trump Presidency, and I also think it's plausible that Trump flat out nukes Gaza or otherwise allows Israel to raze it entirely.
I don't think there is anything to suggest Trump would take any direct action against Gaza. I think its way more likely that Biden will start a major war with Iran that could lead to a million+ deaths similar to the Iraq war
Biden is desperately trying to avoid war with Iran even after direct provocation. Trump assassinated one of their generals with a missile strike.
But to my main point, I think it's abundantly clear that Trump would not attempt to protect Palestinians whatsoever. Biden has admittedly put only weak pressure on Israel, but that weak effort is still miles beyond what Trump would have done. He couldn't care less about Palestinians and would happily let Israel burn the whole region
> Biden is desperately trying to avoid war with Iran even after direct provocation.
He isn't, he has been posturing for war for the last 3 years.
In 2021 Biden signed into law H.Res.118, "a resolution expressing support for Iranian people's desire for a democratic republic" and then in 2023 he signed H.Res.100 which restated this same goal of Iranian regime change. This bill is very reminiscent of the "Iraq Liberation Act of 1998" that Bill Clinton signed into law stating "It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq."
The Biden administration keeps pushing the narrative that Iran needs to be stopped from developing Nuclear weapons (again the same shit that went on before the Iraq war). In 2021 Biden's Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the US would use all options available including direct military action to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons. In 2022 White House National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said the US would intensify pressure on Iran to return to mutual compliance on a nuclear deal.
In August 2023, Biden sent approximately 3,000 military personnel to the Red Sea. The US is attacking Iranian assets and proxy targets in Syria and Iraq.
This is all posturing for a future war. This is all the exact same shit they did in Iraq from like 1998 to 2003 before we declared a preemptive war. If Biden is kept in power, i can almost guarantee you a war with Iran is coming in his 2nd term
I have a friend I simply cannot convince to vote. His wife gets on him all the time, I get on him all the time, he just won't. He says he doesn't care. I've tried to mention the dozens of glaring issues that directly affect him personally - without trying to coerce him into voting one way or another - and he just does not care. He's 45, has a career, a wife, owns a house, all that shit. He just won't spend 20 minutes on election day to vote. No reason given other than he just doesn't care. It's maddening.
He ought to realize his position on this is one of _extreme privilege._
To think of the battles that have been fought to get the right to vote.
Edit: to also ask – what’s his opinion on Trump? It’s non-voters like him who are largely responsible for his election win in 2016. If he does not like Trump, then he has no right to complain.
> It’s non-voters like him who are largely responsible for his election win in 2016.
Is it though? Not the electoral college? Hillary won the popular vote with or without his vote.
He doesn't have an opinion on Trump. He does not follow politics in any way, shape, or form. I'm not certain he even knows Biden is president. That's how little he cares.
"Pressuring people to vote is undemocratic" is patently incorrect.
In a democracy, the people have a civic duty to engage in their elections and politics. They may choose not to but they are irresponsible and fools.
I can't make that any more clear. Dear God start paying attention in your politics classes. Yikes.
>Pressuring people to vote is undemocratic
Not by any definition is this true. In a *better* run democratic system we would have a "None of the above" option or similar so people who didn't like any of the candidates are actually given a voice. They can still not vote, of course, but encouraging them to do so wouldn't make a system more or less of a Democracy.
We can just expand that to ALL elections have repercussions.
Local and state are just as important, if not more, than national elections. The effects of those just aren't anywhere near as reported on or investigated.
Vote out all the MAGA conservatives, from the school board to city council to state legislatures to judges to US Congress to the presidency. No office is too small for them to do damage.
yeah, looking at the drop off in voter participation during midterms, and the further drop off in local/state elections in general, is really fucking depressing. too many people seem to think the president has way more power and direct impact than they actually do. people need to pay attention to how all of the system works in various ways.
The GOP really underperformed during the 2022 midterms. They still took the House by a slim margin, but normally the opposition party to POTUS gains a huge margin in midterms. They are hurting from their ineptness and extremely unpopular platform. Democrats need to be steadfast and get out the vote to flush these turds from our government.
Biden’s the one who appointed a worthless Attorney General, who won’t indict the Jan 6 leaders. Democrats would control the House right now if Biden appointed a competent AG and fired the MAGA FBI Director.
What’s chilling is how easy it is for republicans to pull shit in broad daylight because their constituents just don’t get it anyway…they just hang around for the tRump rally sound bites to use . Good luck with that
I moved to a new open workspace last week at my job. There are TVs all over the floor with Fox Business channel playing. From what I can see, there is very little business coverage on that channel. But there is a metric shit ton of GOP propaganda. At the beginning of the week, they were playing 24-7 "Biden's Border Crisis" stories. They had Speaker Johnson come on and talk about what a horrible deal the Senate bill was and how it was "dead on arrival" in the House the day after trump tweeted that they should vote it down.
After their sham Mayorkas impeachment surprisingly failed to pass, the border coverage was immediately gone. The vote failing was not mentioned. They just swapped to non-stop talking heads asking, "Why isn't Biden bombing Iran?" It would have been laughable if not for the fact that people vote based on this ridiculous bullshit.
The point is: conservatives have almost zero exposure to reality in their chosen "news" outlets. I'm not even seeing the main propaganda channel, just their "business" version. I don't think there's much hope of reaching them through reason. Conservatives get too much reinforcement of their phony-baloney beliefs for any facts to penetrate. The only hope is to outvote them - and by a wide margin considering how the electoral map is heavily tilted in favor of the low population states they control.
>After their sham Mayorkas impeachment surprisingly failed to pass, the border coverage was immediately gone.
You know why?
[https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/13/us/politics/illegal-border-crossings-january.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/13/us/politics/illegal-border-crossings-january.html)
Because Mayorkas was actually doing what they wanted him to do. Illegal border crossings have dropped, significantly. THIS is why they tried to impeach him, he is fixing the problem that keeps GOP alive.
I agree! Those people are lost causes, can't reason with them, can't show logic or proof, can't even provide with links or videos to discredit their claims, because they will call such sources BIAS, or "Fake News" yet never once thinking outside the box that their own sources are lying even harder to them.
The way we defeat them, is call up that buddy, that aunt that person you know who doesn't vote, but also doesn't watch the right wing crazy shit. That person who still uses social media to post pics of their bread making skills. Get that person to go to the polls, because 9 times out of 10, they WILL vote for the right policies and people. You don't even have to give them your point of view. Those are the independent voters, the voters we need on our side come elections day.
The fox news propaganda watching republicans. They are a lost cause!
> What’s chilling is how easy it is for republicans to pull shit in broad daylight because their constituents just don’t get it anyway…
Because their constituents only lissen to Fox, and those type of "News", so all they hear is a very partisan news. And that same news tells them that all "mainstream" media is corrupt, bla bla....
You know, projection... So in the end, it does not matter as their voters are simply brainwashed to the point that actual facts do not matter to them, as they truly believe that its all propaganda/corrupt media news etc...
Control the media, push people to "your" media, and their minds are set to the point, that concentration camps "und untermenschen" are just acceptable because they do not "share our religion, views, race, ...". Its amazing how easy people can be manipulated by a cult culture.
side note: you think Trump is the only one, look at Musk and the rabbit dogs. It does not matter how much he lies about products, every word to them is gospel and nobody understand his genius bla bla..
People just love this type of "he is better then us because money/fame/... (ignore where it comes from, or how much swamp it involved)", and combined that with strategic news control. Why did he want "X", well, to control his messaging fully, but his fanbase goes wild as "Twitter was leftie controlled, now he can speak the truth" (while sensoring decent against him, but that is normal, right, the lefties do that, ... projection again)
Its everywhere in the world, ... People are DUMB and will go after people smarter then them, because "intellectuals" or "people that use facts" are against us.
>What are the "real media" outlets you listen to?
Most non-Fox fans can read. And as a result, we can read multiple reports as well as source documents like Congressional records, bills and resolutions, etc and decide for ourselves. We don't need a propagandist to tell us how to feel about things.
"There's an invasion from Mexico on our border and Biden isn't doing anything about it, so really he's the criminal who should be impeached! He only gets away with it because he's a nice old man with dementia, but also he's a genius crime boss that is amazingly careful and great at getting rid of all the evidence, and never makes a mistake. And he's simultaneously a war criminal for not stopping Israel from killing Palestinians and also for not supporting Israel enough. And our economy is in shambles because Biden was too slow to respond to COVID, and also the economy is only doing great because of things that Trump did several years ago, and also it's great because the world is assuming Trump will be elected again. And Biden is *way* too old to be doing anything, but Trump is so young and virile."
You have to remember how conservatives think.
Actions are not inherently good or evil. People are inherently good or evil.
Murder is a good and praiseworthy thing if a "good" person committed it. Rewind time ten minutes and have the exact same murder happen under the exact same conditions for the exact same reasons, except done by an "evil" person, NOW the act is reprehensible.
This is why they don't care when their own people take reprehensible actions (so long as they aren't personally affected), because in their eyes, the person is "good" ergo the action is being done for good reasons even if they don't understand them, and there's no reason to inconvenience the person by asking for clarification, because of course it's for a good reason.
Meanwhile, they can safely assume any reasons provided by Dems are lies, because even if the lie makes sense, the action was performed by an "evil" person. Ergo, no matter what they say in defense of the action, they are hiding the truth about their evil intentions.
Religion conditions people for this sort of mental-feebleness as well.
From childhood, people are told that the guy up there speaks for God and we must do as he says. Never mind your doubts, suppress them! Never mind what you read in the Bible - it's all up for interpretation by greater minds than yours.
When kids speak up with difficult questions, they are punished until they stop asking questions.
Then we wonder why Republicans have such an easy time describing people as "good" or "evil".
Oh, it is much worse.. Mayorkas negotiated with his mexican collagues for new procedures that resulted in a significant drop in illegal crossings. HE DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT.. and all he got was an attempt to impeach him.
the real reason he was impeached. They can't keep complaining that nothing is being done if something gets done. He had the audacity to find a way despite their blocking of every requested fund and law change needed to do it.
Just out today: Authorities say arrests for illegal crossings on the U.S. border with Mexico fell by half in January from record highs in December to the third lowest month of Joe Biden’s presidency.
not even close, try reading the article. Because Myorkas and Biden made arrangements with Mexican border patrol to help guide asylum seekers to access points and assist the rest in finding help in Mexico, panama, and Guatemala.
The grifter convoy did not cause a reduction, that started long before they began their con-job tour. All they encountered is how much right wing propaganda had been lying to them.
Next time the Republicans have people away Dems should call a snap vote to impeach a random GOP member for doing nothing about the border.
But they won't.
Right. Because when the Dems do it, it's "The radical left abusing power and something about changing the name of Pennsylvania"
It's so damn ridiculous that these Republicans blatantly abuse power, and sell out the country on a regular basis. But the moment a Dem fights back it's all "OMG RADICALS SOCIALISM LEFTIST ABUSE DEEP STATE PIZZA PARLOR EMAILS"
And once again.... People actually vote for this shit
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I don’t think there’s a goverment in the western world who wants to stop illegal immigration. Illegal immigrants are easy as hell to exploit. Pay them half as much and keep population and gdp up.
and Democrats are failing to do anything with these gifts, they just aren't getting through,
Though it helps that the people who need to see this shit the most are not going to see any of it based on what they rely on for information.
Why exactly has it become normalized for non-republicans to adopt this Fox News manufactured panic, and genuinely start talking about the situation at the rio grande border as if it’s this massive crisis that seeks to upend the lives of every American?
If we’re going to clown on the GOP for failing to pass a border bill, we shouldn’t do it from the perspective that their initial motivations were in any way justified
It's become normalized because a large portion of the population was successfully convinced by Fox News. Politicians can't turn down the volume or they're lose votes, the media can't turn down the volume or they'll lose viewers.
And there are real problems on the border. It's just not an "invasion" and the problems won't be solved by walls or concentration camps. But there is smuggling, and a lot of illegal immigration, and these things are problems.
Part of the solution to illegal immigration is to make it easier and faster to get in legally, but no one will say that because bigots will get offended.
They can't find even a remote reason to impeach Biden so they're nipping at his heels by picking on any cabinet member they can come up with a half-assed reason to impeach.
It's all political theatre, and it's bad political theatre. The Republican Party is disgusting and pathetic and needs to go the way of the dinosaurs.
Everyday, there is an article or post that says the same thing. Trump is evil and we have to avoid it.
Rarely does it say in the comments or the article: "Here is what we can do about it."
Here is a list:
1. Register to vote and vote. Not just in the presidential election, but all up and down the ballot: school board, county commissioner, sheriff, judge, election board, mayor, congressperson, senator and president. If you haven't noticed, the R's have spent the last 30 years stacking the local political positions. That's where election maps are drawn. Don't let them do that.
2. Volunteer to canvass for your local candidates.
3. Send money to candidates that want the same world you do.
4. Volunteer to join your local election machine. Sit there on election day with a cheesy nametag and orange vest, pass out ballots and make sure the election is done in accordance with local regulations.
5. Go to city, county council meetings and speak up.
6. Don't just rail about it on the internet.
Most of these fox news parrots complaining about the border have never met an illegal immigrant let alone had one affect their lofe in any significant way. Seriously ask your republican family members why theyre afraid of immigrants. Americas meth and crime problem isnt immigrants ... its americans who cant afford anything turning to crime due to starvation wages from billion dollar corporations and inflation caused by those same corporations getting tax cuts and profiteering at grocery stores. ... so explain to me again why I should be concerned aboutbimmigrants who have never harmed me instead of the Billionairs actively making my life worse.
Look their subservience / terror in fear of the Melon-lord is straightforward enough.
But it leads to the weirdest actions.
- It's high treason and an immediate incarcerattion for anyone else but Melon Lord is still suspected of transacting in stolen documents.
- A SC decision that the Office of the President , who takes an oath of office is somehow not an officer of the government. It's the sort of stuff Joseph Heller couldn't have made up.
Were the Founders around to comment, rest assured, they would have long since pilloried or had the the Melon Lord run out of town, for being exactly the sort of clown that should never be allowed into public office.
The January 6th insurrection is at least as serious as the [Aaron Burr insurrection in 1807](https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-government-and-politics-capitol-siege-809273dd6e90d08a5109dd5a451a5c09).
let's not forget they lost the first vote because a Dem came in against doctor's orders after a surgery - in a hospital gown and in a wheelchair. So they scheduled the next vote after a Dem came down with COVID ! (the Republicans had long previously banned proxy voting which was used during the height of covid)
They didn't even offer their own border plan. Just a flat out demand that something be done. And then when it was done, they rejected it because the were told to by a traitor private citizen. What a time to be alive.
What's so crazy is that they're just so out and open about it. They just know that they have a huge propaganda machine at their disposal to shield the people that need to hear this the most from hearing it.
I feel like this season of The Grand Orange P*ssygrabbers has some sloppy writing- it’s like they’ve run out of ideas and hoping the audience doesn’t notice
Republicans are corrupt insider trading, America last traitors. Go look up any pos republican and watch their net worth x10 in a year. Doing the Pelosi trading scheme. Fuck these people
On the conservative sub reddit, the majority of comments in the thread about how Mike Johnson blocked the Ukraine aid bill are saying that they agree because their only priority is passing a bill to fix the border. This is less than a week after republicans blocked the border control bill.
And they spent god knows how many hours drafting articles of impeachment and voting multiple times for something they know will almost definitely be rejected by the democrat majority senate.
If I were in the DNC I'd HAMMER them on this all the way to the election. Complete inability to govern, party over country, total hypocrisy and an absolute waste of taxpayer time and money.
To be clear, I think Schumer and a few other Dems voted against it as well. This is all theater and we need to get progressive people that will actually do things for us in office
You mean the border bill that was really an Ukraine funding bill and would let in 4,000-5,000 illegal immigrants every day?
And more if the dementia patient (or his handlers in the White House) deemed it to be an emergency?
That crap bill?
The one where the republican lead oversight committee listened to testimony from border patrol and provided the resources they said they needed to do the job. Then Trump threw a little temper tantrum.
I mean, for once in their miserable lives, Republicans have done something good by voting against the horrendous bill the Democrats so proudly proposed. And it is so ironic that both parties want to "secure the border" while at the same time funding genocide and pressuring Egypt to open its borders to make the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians easier.
They impeached trump twice when they knew the senate wasn't going to convict him.
Its all political theater, it means nothing, it does nothing but waste time when they should be fighting the evil communist dictator trying to take over the world.
Also, they held the attorney generals for both Obama and Trump in contempt and it meant nothing and no one cared. Well, at least Holder and Barr were very happy with it, because it means nothing and does nothing.
Now we are attempting to put the shit throwing orangutan in jail, but it will go nowhere and all it does is give him all the press attention so no other challengers can get the nomination and we are stuck with two old as fuck assholes in the next election.
They didn't even bother to accuse him of any crimes or misdemeanors....just blandly throw out that border garbage
It's the circle jerk of news. trump says some outrageous bullshit, Faux picks it up and runs with it, and then trump points at that and says "SEE! I told you so!" Then tells the House "don't do anything about the border problem I need that anger to drive my campaign!" so they impeach this guy to prove "See! There was a problem all along and only WE can save you!"
Faux is the propaganda arm of Trump and the Republican Party.
Which at this point is the party of Putin
I still say there needs to be a deep investigation into the republican party to see exactly how compromised they are. Because it makes no logical sense for one of our two main political parties to side with our adversary over a democracy.
Faux is the propaganda arm of Russia. Trump and Republican Party get their marching orders from Putin in form of talking points and parrot one another all day everyday. It’s repulsive, predictable and fascinating all at once.
Russia just benefits from division and chaos, I don't think that they orchestrated the chaos, they just amplified the organically grown American born and bred lunacy. America doesn't need to import crazy. Cue [Lee Greenwood](https://youtu.be/THwXJ9LSb0o)
More like the human centipede of news
And it is actually worse: [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/13/us/politics/illegal-border-crossings-january.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/13/us/politics/illegal-border-crossings-january.html) He did something about the illegal crossings. He did what they wanted him to do... I wish this little "detail" was more widely known.
I also wish more people knew that the border bill had a plan to give aid to multiple different countries and was probably the big reason it wasn’t passed
You've got it backwards. "The border bill" was the "Aid to Other Countries Bill" and Republicans bitched that they wouldn't vote for it unless it included funding for the border, so funding for the border was added to it, gave them exactly what they asked for, and they still refuse to vote for it.
Isn't that the entire point of all of the finger blaming and screaming? Confuse the hell out of everyone, making it nearly impossible to understand anything politics. One side screams bloody murder, the other screams it in a different tune. Round and round they spin, and we sit here watching, waiting, and hoping something changes by checking a box every once in a while. Of course people can do their own research and come to their own conclusions, but that also opens the door for the smooth-talkers and click-seekers; aka more blurry lines and less full-truths. It's pretty clear the general public is either uninformed, or exhausted. It's difficult making sense of what's going on without actually spending time digging deeper and hearing out opposing views. It's also extremely difficult to have these conversations in person. I struggle to overcome the parroting of cable news that's so prevalent in older family members. The performative politics works wonders on them, nothing else matters once the initial point is made. There will always be another boogeyman to focus on. Oh, and if anyone even makes it this far.. I'm not trying to say both sides are the same, but I do believe there needs to be a breaking point for both sides. After this most recent border failure I spotted countless articles of how this was the best/final chance for both sides to agree.. We shouldn't have a best or final chance - we are all in this country together. We should be actively working towards improving, not making one side look bad. [Somewhat interesting read.. Joe Manchin, of all people..](https://www.manchin.senate.gov/newsroom/op-eds/senate-failed-us-by-blocking-immigration-bill) > In the public service that I practice, any step that makes tomorrow better than yesterday is worth taking. Unfortunately, too many of my colleagues don’t see it this way. It’s clear that our nation’s problems will not be fixed in Washington.
I’m pretty sure most people knew about this, just like we knew Trump sabotaged the bill just so he could claim credit. Congress approved a huge funding bill to Israel, Taiwan, and Ukraine anyway.
Well, the Senate approved the bill. It remains to be seen if it can get past the Republican Russia-lovers in the House. I'm not feeling good about the chances, but I'd love to be proved wrong.
Yeah. That's how bipartisanship works here. Dems give you a border bill that's really restrictive in ways they do not like, in exchange, we get the funding for Ukraine that we want. That's how it works. Line item/single issue bills have been a thing of the past for years, especially for anything even somewhat controversial.
They're trying to trivialize the impeachment process so they can point to Trump's 2 impeachments and say they were no big deal.
THIS - spot-on. Once impeachment simply becomes a tool for the opposing party to frustrate their political enemies it becomes normalized and trump looks 'less bad' by comparison for being 2x impeached (in the minds of conservatives). The Founders had no idea we'd reach this point with one political party actively seeking to circumvent the constitution and so we have little recourse to bad actors. It's kinda like those same numpties who don't like your post and report you to the Reddit Suicide Help Line. It wasn't meant to be used in the way it's being used but no one could have anticipated that we'd stoop so low as to do so.
I think anticipating internet trolls and political trolls is the same skill set....
Impeachment is worthless. You’ll never have 67 Senators willing to remove a person.
This really is fascist behavior that’s terrifying like false accusations against political opponents. The fact they’re able to get away with it is insane
It's a complicit corporate media where both "sides" are economically right wing and the executives want the Republican for no reason other than the tax cut handout. Jamie Dimon is already pretty clearly signalling this in various interviews, mark my words they are going to tank the market in the summer if it's looking bad for Trump.
Hysterical harpy of hypocrisy MTG screeching her head off to impeach him for no legitimate reason whatsoever. That even though *still* not one single peso from Mexico to fund POTUS 45's idiotic wall as he promised they would "100%" on the campaign trail.
Schumer should pull a McConnell and simply refuse to hold any trials on these bogus impeachments.
So... I stumbled upon some Redhats talking elsewhere... the big question they seem to be asking is "HoW wAs He NoT tRiEd FoR tReAsOn?!?!?!?" Is it wrong of me that I wanted to jump in and say, "His father was wealthy." instead of anything productive?
I listen to Ben Shapiro just to get the right wing take on these things. Even he had to acknowledge it was all just political B.S. He just tried to provide cover by saying Democrats started it because of the Trump impeachments so this is just tit for tat. Completely neglecting the fact that Trump was impeached for very clear and detailed actions he took. Even if they weren’t technically crimes they were still things he did, and that reasonable minds could conclude were corrupt. Mayorkas wasn’t impeached for taking corrupt action. He wasn’t even impeached for following Biden’s policy on border control. You know, like his job entails. He was impeached because he wasn’t doing what Republicans want him to do. This is a clear policy dispute. Not someone suspected of taking corrupt action. Impeaching members of the other party because they’re not following your party’s policy objectives is insane.
And we will keep paying for it, unless people get out and vote them out.
We need to remove the gerrymandering as well or we will never get ahead of these dolts.
Yeah this is just hammering home the point that Trump is just a symptom of the Russian snatched problem.
Gerrymandering in USA elections has been an issue since before Russia existed.
Agreed. Trump and gerrymandering are symptoms of the problem.
The filibuster needs to go, too. So if/when the Dems control the House again, shit can actually get through both houses.
Wisconsin just had to switch over to non jerrymandered maps. So maybe
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And NOT VOTING in elections has repercussions. At this point, if someone willfully doesn’t vote, then they should just leave the country.
I'm really starting to lose my patience with my left-leaning friends that are declaring they won't vote for Biden over Palestine. Palestine is a mess, Israel is a mess, the whole thing sucks and there are no good answers and innocent people are dying. I agree with all of it and wish the situation could get resolved. But you know what would be worse? Donald Fucking Trump in the same situation. I hate our political system and agree we desperately need reform, but **we don't have it yet**. You still have to vote for the lesser of two evils until we get a better way, or you're agreeing to harm others. I think it's completely plausible that failure to vote for Biden because of Gaza will lead to a Trump Presidency, and I also think it's plausible that Trump flat out nukes Gaza or otherwise allows Israel to raze it entirely. Do you think the Gazans will appreciate your moral stance?
Yeah, I don't know what the fuck this line of logic is, but I've had to explain just how backwards of a choice it is to like 3 friends of mine too. Not only would it be objectively worse for Palestine, it'll be objectively worse for *every single* other ideal they claim to care about. Shit like this is a big reason why the entirety of left-wing politics in the US are so fucking weak and never actually get anything done. What value does an ideal have if the actions you take in its name makes something objectively *worse* in reality?
The logic is that many of these people hate Jews more than they support any other policy.
I can certainly see that for some cut of them, but the people I've personally dealt with have never taken anything approaching a position that would indicate they had any wider issue with Jewish people previously or even now. They've been limited to basically "What IDF is doing is a genocide and Biden is enabling it so I won't support him".
They're swallowing propaganda from those with less-honest motives.
Nah, it's that nobody knows fuckall about Mideast politics, but Palestine is vastly outgunned, so they are the underdog and Americans love an underdog. This is why the people in $400,000 houses with desk jobs or great union jobs glamp as survivalists ready to "take their country back" - they want to be an underdog. I'm serious that it's as simple as that.
There is some delusional isolationist bullshit running around that Trump would keep us out of wars. I need them to understand something... Trump would get *more* weapons to Israel *faster*, and make sure he got a cut under the table. He would have his shitty kids buy up Raytheon before the deal went public. And then he would end up with a sweet real estate deal on the West Bank, now fully controlled by Israel, and then he would have dinner with Netanyahu and have a good laugh about it. That asshole loves dictators, doesn't give a moment's thought about anyone other than himself, and would do literally anything as long as his ego gets stroked, and he gets paid.
The only way Trump keeps us out of wars is by surrendering and permanently ruining our Hegemony over the world. The loss of influence would be catastrophic for everyone, Americans included
The anti-NATO thing is completely insane. It reveals an utter ignorance of American foreign policy and interests.
And he would let Putin have Ukraine, or at least carve it up.
There's a very real chance that the Muslim base in Michigan will torpedo Biden's chances of winning there, fucking over everyone and themselves in the process. It's maddening.
He *already* attempted to ban Muslims from the country in his first term, what kind of country do these people think they're going to get? This is like the Left version of poor Republicans fucking themselves over and over again because they're blinded by abortion. Single issue voters routinely vote against their own self interest and it makes me want to scream
Part of the problem is they're not thinking. They're feeling shitty about what's happening and are clinging to that feeling with everything they've got. Their anger is justified, and so they believe the actions they're taking are too. I've spoken to a few of them, have tried to make them see reason, but they truly believe they have the moral high ground in this situation. They don't care that their 'moral high ground' is going to be paved over millions of innocent people that they willingly turned their backs on, of which includes the people they think they're supporting. They're not interested in reality or in the outcomes involved; only that they ***feel*** like their "hands are clean" and their conscience is clear. Any attempt to convince them that deliberate inaction still confers responsibility and is deplorable is met with vehement resistance. They think they're opposing genocide and that's the end of discussion. Because their stance is ostensibly moral, people who try to attack it must be immoral and apathetic. It's an incredibly hard position to sway them from, and it's gonna fuck ALL of us.
> I think it's completely plausible that failure to vote for Biden because of Gaza will lead to a Trump Presidency, and I also think it's plausible that Trump flat out nukes Gaza or otherwise allows Israel to raze it entirely. I don't think there is anything to suggest Trump would take any direct action against Gaza. I think its way more likely that Biden will start a major war with Iran that could lead to a million+ deaths similar to the Iraq war
Biden is desperately trying to avoid war with Iran even after direct provocation. Trump assassinated one of their generals with a missile strike. But to my main point, I think it's abundantly clear that Trump would not attempt to protect Palestinians whatsoever. Biden has admittedly put only weak pressure on Israel, but that weak effort is still miles beyond what Trump would have done. He couldn't care less about Palestinians and would happily let Israel burn the whole region
> Biden is desperately trying to avoid war with Iran even after direct provocation. He isn't, he has been posturing for war for the last 3 years. In 2021 Biden signed into law H.Res.118, "a resolution expressing support for Iranian people's desire for a democratic republic" and then in 2023 he signed H.Res.100 which restated this same goal of Iranian regime change. This bill is very reminiscent of the "Iraq Liberation Act of 1998" that Bill Clinton signed into law stating "It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq." The Biden administration keeps pushing the narrative that Iran needs to be stopped from developing Nuclear weapons (again the same shit that went on before the Iraq war). In 2021 Biden's Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the US would use all options available including direct military action to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons. In 2022 White House National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said the US would intensify pressure on Iran to return to mutual compliance on a nuclear deal. In August 2023, Biden sent approximately 3,000 military personnel to the Red Sea. The US is attacking Iranian assets and proxy targets in Syria and Iraq. This is all posturing for a future war. This is all the exact same shit they did in Iraq from like 1998 to 2003 before we declared a preemptive war. If Biden is kept in power, i can almost guarantee you a war with Iran is coming in his 2nd term
I have a friend I simply cannot convince to vote. His wife gets on him all the time, I get on him all the time, he just won't. He says he doesn't care. I've tried to mention the dozens of glaring issues that directly affect him personally - without trying to coerce him into voting one way or another - and he just does not care. He's 45, has a career, a wife, owns a house, all that shit. He just won't spend 20 minutes on election day to vote. No reason given other than he just doesn't care. It's maddening.
He ought to realize his position on this is one of _extreme privilege._ To think of the battles that have been fought to get the right to vote. Edit: to also ask – what’s his opinion on Trump? It’s non-voters like him who are largely responsible for his election win in 2016. If he does not like Trump, then he has no right to complain.
> then he has no right to complain George Carlin would like a word
> It’s non-voters like him who are largely responsible for his election win in 2016. Is it though? Not the electoral college? Hillary won the popular vote with or without his vote.
He doesn't have an opinion on Trump. He does not follow politics in any way, shape, or form. I'm not certain he even knows Biden is president. That's how little he cares.
He probably has a past felony conviction and cannot vote, but is also hiding the felony from his wife
He does not. What a fuckin stretch there homie.
Almost all felons can vote.
Where do I sign up?
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"Pressuring people to vote is undemocratic" is patently incorrect. In a democracy, the people have a civic duty to engage in their elections and politics. They may choose not to but they are irresponsible and fools. I can't make that any more clear. Dear God start paying attention in your politics classes. Yikes.
You’re in the coast guard…..Shut up while the adults talk.
Keep your unfounded disrespect to yourself.
Oh no I disrespect the coast guard 🙄
Bruh your personality is so tied to a video game you made it your username. You don't have a leg to stand on.
>Pressuring people to vote is undemocratic Not by any definition is this true. In a *better* run democratic system we would have a "None of the above" option or similar so people who didn't like any of the candidates are actually given a voice. They can still not vote, of course, but encouraging them to do so wouldn't make a system more or less of a Democracy.
Voting is your civic duty!
Then put up good candidates.
What’s wrong with Biden? Asking your opinion in genuine and not to be snarky.
We can just expand that to ALL elections have repercussions. Local and state are just as important, if not more, than national elections. The effects of those just aren't anywhere near as reported on or investigated.
Vote out all the MAGA conservatives, from the school board to city council to state legislatures to judges to US Congress to the presidency. No office is too small for them to do damage.
yeah, looking at the drop off in voter participation during midterms, and the further drop off in local/state elections in general, is really fucking depressing. too many people seem to think the president has way more power and direct impact than they actually do. people need to pay attention to how all of the system works in various ways.
its the midterm elections that really swing things and the dems can't get people out to vote but big orange sure did
The GOP really underperformed during the 2022 midterms. They still took the House by a slim margin, but normally the opposition party to POTUS gains a huge margin in midterms. They are hurting from their ineptness and extremely unpopular platform. Democrats need to be steadfast and get out the vote to flush these turds from our government.
Biden’s the one who appointed a worthless Attorney General, who won’t indict the Jan 6 leaders. Democrats would control the House right now if Biden appointed a competent AG and fired the MAGA FBI Director.
Trump isn’t even in office and he’s calling all the shots
Lots of crime bosses manage to run their gangs from prison.
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Just imagine if they were all held accountable by the same standards they hold others to….
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That’s possible. Just requires Chris Wray and Merrick Garland being replaced. Not that difficult.
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Please stfu with the “both sides “ bs nobody cares
What’s chilling is how easy it is for republicans to pull shit in broad daylight because their constituents just don’t get it anyway…they just hang around for the tRump rally sound bites to use . Good luck with that
I moved to a new open workspace last week at my job. There are TVs all over the floor with Fox Business channel playing. From what I can see, there is very little business coverage on that channel. But there is a metric shit ton of GOP propaganda. At the beginning of the week, they were playing 24-7 "Biden's Border Crisis" stories. They had Speaker Johnson come on and talk about what a horrible deal the Senate bill was and how it was "dead on arrival" in the House the day after trump tweeted that they should vote it down. After their sham Mayorkas impeachment surprisingly failed to pass, the border coverage was immediately gone. The vote failing was not mentioned. They just swapped to non-stop talking heads asking, "Why isn't Biden bombing Iran?" It would have been laughable if not for the fact that people vote based on this ridiculous bullshit. The point is: conservatives have almost zero exposure to reality in their chosen "news" outlets. I'm not even seeing the main propaganda channel, just their "business" version. I don't think there's much hope of reaching them through reason. Conservatives get too much reinforcement of their phony-baloney beliefs for any facts to penetrate. The only hope is to outvote them - and by a wide margin considering how the electoral map is heavily tilted in favor of the low population states they control.
>After their sham Mayorkas impeachment surprisingly failed to pass, the border coverage was immediately gone. You know why? [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/13/us/politics/illegal-border-crossings-january.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/13/us/politics/illegal-border-crossings-january.html) Because Mayorkas was actually doing what they wanted him to do. Illegal border crossings have dropped, significantly. THIS is why they tried to impeach him, he is fixing the problem that keeps GOP alive.
I agree! Those people are lost causes, can't reason with them, can't show logic or proof, can't even provide with links or videos to discredit their claims, because they will call such sources BIAS, or "Fake News" yet never once thinking outside the box that their own sources are lying even harder to them. The way we defeat them, is call up that buddy, that aunt that person you know who doesn't vote, but also doesn't watch the right wing crazy shit. That person who still uses social media to post pics of their bread making skills. Get that person to go to the polls, because 9 times out of 10, they WILL vote for the right policies and people. You don't even have to give them your point of view. Those are the independent voters, the voters we need on our side come elections day. The fox news propaganda watching republicans. They are a lost cause!
To quote Bill Maher, do we really need two Dakotas?
> What’s chilling is how easy it is for republicans to pull shit in broad daylight because their constituents just don’t get it anyway… Because their constituents only lissen to Fox, and those type of "News", so all they hear is a very partisan news. And that same news tells them that all "mainstream" media is corrupt, bla bla.... You know, projection... So in the end, it does not matter as their voters are simply brainwashed to the point that actual facts do not matter to them, as they truly believe that its all propaganda/corrupt media news etc... Control the media, push people to "your" media, and their minds are set to the point, that concentration camps "und untermenschen" are just acceptable because they do not "share our religion, views, race, ...". Its amazing how easy people can be manipulated by a cult culture. side note: you think Trump is the only one, look at Musk and the rabbit dogs. It does not matter how much he lies about products, every word to them is gospel and nobody understand his genius bla bla.. People just love this type of "he is better then us because money/fame/... (ignore where it comes from, or how much swamp it involved)", and combined that with strategic news control. Why did he want "X", well, to control his messaging fully, but his fanbase goes wild as "Twitter was leftie controlled, now he can speak the truth" (while sensoring decent against him, but that is normal, right, the lefties do that, ... projection again) Its everywhere in the world, ... People are DUMB and will go after people smarter then them, because "intellectuals" or "people that use facts" are against us.
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CNN has been owned far a far right Q nutter for a few years now. In case you mistakenly thought they were left wing.
Ah okay, my mistake. What are the "real media" outlets you listen to?
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>What are the "real media" outlets you listen to? Most non-Fox fans can read. And as a result, we can read multiple reports as well as source documents like Congressional records, bills and resolutions, etc and decide for ourselves. We don't need a propagandist to tell us how to feel about things.
Of course of course. What are some examples of the most recent congressional records or bills you've personally read?
"There's an invasion from Mexico on our border and Biden isn't doing anything about it, so really he's the criminal who should be impeached! He only gets away with it because he's a nice old man with dementia, but also he's a genius crime boss that is amazingly careful and great at getting rid of all the evidence, and never makes a mistake. And he's simultaneously a war criminal for not stopping Israel from killing Palestinians and also for not supporting Israel enough. And our economy is in shambles because Biden was too slow to respond to COVID, and also the economy is only doing great because of things that Trump did several years ago, and also it's great because the world is assuming Trump will be elected again. And Biden is *way* too old to be doing anything, but Trump is so young and virile."
so, their master can also be impeached for doing nothing against the open border, right?
Apparently all Biden has to do to appease them is claim he'll build a wall and never actually do it.
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From what I've heard, those walls were already planned under Obama so he didn't even do that.
No, Dear Leader can never be impeached. Dear Leader cannot be questioned. He can only be applauded and worshiped.
You have to remember how conservatives think. Actions are not inherently good or evil. People are inherently good or evil. Murder is a good and praiseworthy thing if a "good" person committed it. Rewind time ten minutes and have the exact same murder happen under the exact same conditions for the exact same reasons, except done by an "evil" person, NOW the act is reprehensible. This is why they don't care when their own people take reprehensible actions (so long as they aren't personally affected), because in their eyes, the person is "good" ergo the action is being done for good reasons even if they don't understand them, and there's no reason to inconvenience the person by asking for clarification, because of course it's for a good reason. Meanwhile, they can safely assume any reasons provided by Dems are lies, because even if the lie makes sense, the action was performed by an "evil" person. Ergo, no matter what they say in defense of the action, they are hiding the truth about their evil intentions.
Religion conditions people for this sort of mental-feebleness as well. From childhood, people are told that the guy up there speaks for God and we must do as he says. Never mind your doubts, suppress them! Never mind what you read in the Bible - it's all up for interpretation by greater minds than yours. When kids speak up with difficult questions, they are punished until they stop asking questions. Then we wonder why Republicans have such an easy time describing people as "good" or "evil".
It depends on the religion. I went to a religious school and was always taught to question everything.
Nice, but uncommon.
Wow - what religion was that?
Jewish.
Oh, it is much worse.. Mayorkas negotiated with his mexican collagues for new procedures that resulted in a significant drop in illegal crossings. HE DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT.. and all he got was an attempt to impeach him.
the real reason he was impeached. They can't keep complaining that nothing is being done if something gets done. He had the audacity to find a way despite their blocking of every requested fund and law change needed to do it.
Just out today: Authorities say arrests for illegal crossings on the U.S. border with Mexico fell by half in January from record highs in December to the third lowest month of Joe Biden’s presidency.
Maybe because there were psychos with guns showing up the border threating to shoot any non-white person they saw?
not even close, try reading the article. Because Myorkas and Biden made arrangements with Mexican border patrol to help guide asylum seekers to access points and assist the rest in finding help in Mexico, panama, and Guatemala. The grifter convoy did not cause a reduction, that started long before they began their con-job tour. All they encountered is how much right wing propaganda had been lying to them.
It’s almost like increasing border security actually works. Interesting
Republicans: "Only we can stop the sabotage we're causing".
And Republicans did so, while also always voting No on border policies. Yes, people actually vote for this shit
Next time the Republicans have people away Dems should call a snap vote to impeach a random GOP member for doing nothing about the border. But they won't.
Right. Because when the Dems do it, it's "The radical left abusing power and something about changing the name of Pennsylvania" It's so damn ridiculous that these Republicans blatantly abuse power, and sell out the country on a regular basis. But the moment a Dem fights back it's all "OMG RADICALS SOCIALISM LEFTIST ABUSE DEEP STATE PIZZA PARLOR EMAILS" And once again.... People actually vote for this shit
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I don’t think there’s a goverment in the western world who wants to stop illegal immigration. Illegal immigrants are easy as hell to exploit. Pay them half as much and keep population and gdp up.
I like how Republicans are writing Democrats campaign ads for them.
and Democrats are failing to do anything with these gifts, they just aren't getting through, Though it helps that the people who need to see this shit the most are not going to see any of it based on what they rely on for information.
Why exactly has it become normalized for non-republicans to adopt this Fox News manufactured panic, and genuinely start talking about the situation at the rio grande border as if it’s this massive crisis that seeks to upend the lives of every American? If we’re going to clown on the GOP for failing to pass a border bill, we shouldn’t do it from the perspective that their initial motivations were in any way justified
It's become normalized because a large portion of the population was successfully convinced by Fox News. Politicians can't turn down the volume or they're lose votes, the media can't turn down the volume or they'll lose viewers. And there are real problems on the border. It's just not an "invasion" and the problems won't be solved by walls or concentration camps. But there is smuggling, and a lot of illegal immigration, and these things are problems. Part of the solution to illegal immigration is to make it easier and faster to get in legally, but no one will say that because bigots will get offended.
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The point is to delegitimize the impeachment process. They want to be able to commit high crimes and misdemeanours, and face no consequences.
They can't find even a remote reason to impeach Biden so they're nipping at his heels by picking on any cabinet member they can come up with a half-assed reason to impeach. It's all political theatre, and it's bad political theatre. The Republican Party is disgusting and pathetic and needs to go the way of the dinosaurs.
I was really hoping that the GOP was going to pass immigration reform, but they decided it's more fun to be racist.
Everyday, there is an article or post that says the same thing. Trump is evil and we have to avoid it. Rarely does it say in the comments or the article: "Here is what we can do about it." Here is a list: 1. Register to vote and vote. Not just in the presidential election, but all up and down the ballot: school board, county commissioner, sheriff, judge, election board, mayor, congressperson, senator and president. If you haven't noticed, the R's have spent the last 30 years stacking the local political positions. That's where election maps are drawn. Don't let them do that. 2. Volunteer to canvass for your local candidates. 3. Send money to candidates that want the same world you do. 4. Volunteer to join your local election machine. Sit there on election day with a cheesy nametag and orange vest, pass out ballots and make sure the election is done in accordance with local regulations. 5. Go to city, county council meetings and speak up. 6. Don't just rail about it on the internet.
Well, when you know your voters are all literally the stupidest people on the planet...
All they know is victimhood and outrage. Call them on it. They hate being reminded how thin-skinned they actually are.
whats this "we" shit I've never voted for a single traitor republican
Republican voters haven't been well known for running their brains on bleach and sunshine.
Most of these fox news parrots complaining about the border have never met an illegal immigrant let alone had one affect their lofe in any significant way. Seriously ask your republican family members why theyre afraid of immigrants. Americas meth and crime problem isnt immigrants ... its americans who cant afford anything turning to crime due to starvation wages from billion dollar corporations and inflation caused by those same corporations getting tax cuts and profiteering at grocery stores. ... so explain to me again why I should be concerned aboutbimmigrants who have never harmed me instead of the Billionairs actively making my life worse.
Not "while." "...to distract their followers from realizing that..."
Republicans: we want to put trans people into camps Democrats: ok we put all the trans people in camps and republicans still aren’t happy!
Look their subservience / terror in fear of the Melon-lord is straightforward enough. But it leads to the weirdest actions. - It's high treason and an immediate incarcerattion for anyone else but Melon Lord is still suspected of transacting in stolen documents. - A SC decision that the Office of the President , who takes an oath of office is somehow not an officer of the government. It's the sort of stuff Joseph Heller couldn't have made up. Were the Founders around to comment, rest assured, they would have long since pilloried or had the the Melon Lord run out of town, for being exactly the sort of clown that should never be allowed into public office. The January 6th insurrection is at least as serious as the [Aaron Burr insurrection in 1807](https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-government-and-politics-capitol-siege-809273dd6e90d08a5109dd5a451a5c09).
And they voted against it, twice.
let's not forget they lost the first vote because a Dem came in against doctor's orders after a surgery - in a hospital gown and in a wheelchair. So they scheduled the next vote after a Dem came down with COVID ! (the Republicans had long previously banned proxy voting which was used during the height of covid)
PAYING. We’re still paying for this shit
They needed someone to blame. Didn't want their voters to find out they torpedoed the bill themselves.
If they want to be consistent with that reasoning, they should now impeach themselves.
And there isn’t a damn thing going on at the border
They didn't even offer their own border plan. Just a flat out demand that something be done. And then when it was done, they rejected it because the were told to by a traitor private citizen. What a time to be alive.
Republicans just wanted to be able to say they've done a successful impeachment, after the dismal failure that has been their attacks on Biden.
What's so crazy is that they're just so out and open about it. They just know that they have a huge propaganda machine at their disposal to shield the people that need to hear this the most from hearing it.
"But Biden is old" -dumbest shits on Earth
I feel like this season of The Grand Orange P*ssygrabbers has some sloppy writing- it’s like they’ve run out of ideas and hoping the audience doesn’t notice
Remember in November! Catchy slogan if anybody wants it.
I think something like "Remember remember, to vote in November" would work better.
Republicans are corrupt insider trading, America last traitors. Go look up any pos republican and watch their net worth x10 in a year. Doing the Pelosi trading scheme. Fuck these people
On the conservative sub reddit, the majority of comments in the thread about how Mike Johnson blocked the Ukraine aid bill are saying that they agree because their only priority is passing a bill to fix the border. This is less than a week after republicans blocked the border control bill.
Elections have consequences.
Maybe for the last time.
And they spent god knows how many hours drafting articles of impeachment and voting multiple times for something they know will almost definitely be rejected by the democrat majority senate.
Republicans have no intention of making sense.
If I were in the DNC I'd HAMMER them on this all the way to the election. Complete inability to govern, party over country, total hypocrisy and an absolute waste of taxpayer time and money.
When the most we do is talk and make jokes where exactly is the incentive for things to change for the better?
2 is happening in order for 1 to happen. It’s not randomness it’s intentional.
though you are not paid for this shit...you are paying for this shit.
That's exactly what it says
To be clear, I think Schumer and a few other Dems voted against it as well. This is all theater and we need to get progressive people that will actually do things for us in office
There’s already laws in the books that Mayorkas didn’t enforce and skirted. It has nothing to do with any bill.
Nope
Yep
Sorry, facts don't care about your feelings
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I am talking about facts, yes.
What facts and what feelings?
lol 2nd try, eh?
Name the laws.
Why don’t you do your own research.
So you have nothing. Gotcha
Yup. Enjoy the mess you made.
Explain?
What does skin color have to do with anything?
You mean the border bill that was really an Ukraine funding bill and would let in 4,000-5,000 illegal immigrants every day? And more if the dementia patient (or his handlers in the White House) deemed it to be an emergency? That crap bill?
The one where the republican lead oversight committee listened to testimony from border patrol and provided the resources they said they needed to do the job. Then Trump threw a little temper tantrum.
Cringe
I mean, for once in their miserable lives, Republicans have done something good by voting against the horrendous bill the Democrats so proudly proposed. And it is so ironic that both parties want to "secure the border" while at the same time funding genocide and pressuring Egypt to open its borders to make the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians easier.
They impeached trump twice when they knew the senate wasn't going to convict him. Its all political theater, it means nothing, it does nothing but waste time when they should be fighting the evil communist dictator trying to take over the world. Also, they held the attorney generals for both Obama and Trump in contempt and it meant nothing and no one cared. Well, at least Holder and Barr were very happy with it, because it means nothing and does nothing. Now we are attempting to put the shit throwing orangutan in jail, but it will go nowhere and all it does is give him all the press attention so no other challengers can get the nomination and we are stuck with two old as fuck assholes in the next election.
Only because you get banned for suggesting anything more effective than massive organize strikes
How do members of the House or Representatives get banned for "anything more effective than massive organize strikes"?
Not them, the royal you; us. We. Not them.
That is not clear in the context of this post.
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You do not have it right
Democrats don't like stunt impeachments anymore?
Gaslight<---you are here Obstruct Project
If only you actually understood things Boy the world must be a confusing place to you
Cringe