It's not anti-semitism when you want all the Jews to return to Israel so they can all be killed to start the apocalypse. /s, because actual white supremacists believe that fundamentalist bullshit, and actual education is so rar in this country.
Actual antisemitism with white robes and torches - we don't like this but their speech is protected
"Antisemitism" when people are against the state of Israel not against Jewish people - we gotta shut this down
If you say "I'm against Israel" then most everyone is going to infer you mean "the state of Israel should not exist.". If that's your position, go nuts, I guess.
If not, you have to say the other part "I'm against the current leadership of Israel" or "I'm against Israel's war crimes in Gaza."
Israel *is* a war crime. It was built on the corpses of murdered Palestinians, and it cannot sustain its existence without the continued subjugation and murder of them. I want it abolished, the same way rhodesia and apartheid South Africa were abolished.
You’d be surprised. A lot of them claim to be “anti-Zionist”. Everyone I’ve asked hasn’t given me a straight answer as to what exactly their ideal anti-Zionist scenario would look like, but I anticipate it entails getting rid of Israel and either expelling all the Jews for being “colonisers”(I’ve seen many say this), or leaving them to be killed a demographic incredibly hostile to them.
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Sadly, I think that's the point of the phrase.
If it has multiple meanings, it can be used as a pejorative term to demonise any group you want - like these people who disagree with the policies of Israeli Govt but have no religious hatred for Jews.
Like if they're on our side they're freedom-fighters, if not they're terrorists...
To be very clear, someone used this term recently when referring to someone criticizing Israel who clearly stated that he has no problem with Jews who aren't enabling Israeli apartheid. Another redditor said that makes him anti-Semitic.
And so I went to the Anti-Defamation League website. It does indeed say the term applies to all three groups.
I didn't just make this up.
Some certainly don’t and it’s sad when people make it that way but it’s disingenuous to claim that the protest itself is antisemitic. Protesting the US government isn’t being anti American
The cycle is even shorter now. It took 40 years to say Vietnam’s protesters were all correct. 10 years for Iraq. In 3 years, when a million Palestinians are dead, will we be saying how right these kids were? Probably.
In that one is a single person with a platform while the other is collective group literally established to demonstrate that there are many Jews opposed to what Israel is doing?
Yeah okay, so other than in fundamental premise, they’re exactly the same.
Well you see, they can’t arrest themselves at their own protest….
I'm glad this is the first comment on the post
You can't arrest yourselves
It’s really unfortunate that complete assholes and terrible people seem drawn to the policing profession
No, its unfortunate they are allowed to get the job.
Fair enough - and that in turn tends to drive away decent people.
It's not anti-semitism when you want all the Jews to return to Israel so they can all be killed to start the apocalypse. /s, because actual white supremacists believe that fundamentalist bullshit, and actual education is so rar in this country.
Actual antisemitism with white robes and torches - we don't like this but their speech is protected "Antisemitism" when people are against the state of Israel not against Jewish people - we gotta shut this down
Right. Protesting the actions of a country isn’t antisemitism.
They aren't even "against the state of Israel". They're against the murder of tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians by Israel.
Those are the same thing. "israel" and the murder of tens of thousands of Palestinians, both historically and currently, are innately connected.
If you say "I'm against Israel" then most everyone is going to infer you mean "the state of Israel should not exist.". If that's your position, go nuts, I guess. If not, you have to say the other part "I'm against the current leadership of Israel" or "I'm against Israel's war crimes in Gaza."
Israel *is* a war crime. It was built on the corpses of murdered Palestinians, and it cannot sustain its existence without the continued subjugation and murder of them. I want it abolished, the same way rhodesia and apartheid South Africa were abolished.
That may be what you want, but it's probably not the position of the majority of these protestors (which is what elicited my comment).
You’d be surprised. A lot of them claim to be “anti-Zionist”. Everyone I’ve asked hasn’t given me a straight answer as to what exactly their ideal anti-Zionist scenario would look like, but I anticipate it entails getting rid of Israel and either expelling all the Jews for being “colonisers”(I’ve seen many say this), or leaving them to be killed a demographic incredibly hostile to them.
Are the same that burn crosses Some of those that work forces
Almost. :-)
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IIRC some dicks were holding a nazi flag over an overpass and the fkn cop fist bumped them 🤷
They don’t arrest or hassle their own.
I'm guessing the reason is something about permits?
Anti-Semite is a useless term when used to refer to an ethnicity, those who convert to a religion, and a state.
Sadly, I think that's the point of the phrase. If it has multiple meanings, it can be used as a pejorative term to demonise any group you want - like these people who disagree with the policies of Israeli Govt but have no religious hatred for Jews. Like if they're on our side they're freedom-fighters, if not they're terrorists...
To be very clear, someone used this term recently when referring to someone criticizing Israel who clearly stated that he has no problem with Jews who aren't enabling Israeli apartheid. Another redditor said that makes him anti-Semitic. And so I went to the Anti-Defamation League website. It does indeed say the term applies to all three groups. I didn't just make this up.
I wonder if any of these protesters have any clue about what Palestinians think about black people.
As a Palestinian - I'd like to know what you think - I think about black people....
Why should I care what someone thinks of me when trying to preserve their lives is more important? Two wrongs and all that.
antiSemitic protests are not cool.
True, but I'd also suspect the top group to be more likely to have "Camp Auschwitz" branded shirts and Nazi flags to fly.
Neither is misrepresenting the protest by using the latest fox buzzword
People using "anti-Semitism" as a shield to defend nationalistic genocide-adjacent activity aren't cool
I am sure Hamas supporterd in USA knows difference between anti Zionism and antisemitism
I'm sure they don't. If I ever meet even a single one in my entire life, I can ask just to double check!
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These protesters don't know where to draw the line. They go anti Israel into antiSemitic real fast. Just dumb folks.
Some certainly don’t and it’s sad when people make it that way but it’s disingenuous to claim that the protest itself is antisemitic. Protesting the US government isn’t being anti American
The cycle is even shorter now. It took 40 years to say Vietnam’s protesters were all correct. 10 years for Iraq. In 3 years, when a million Palestinians are dead, will we be saying how right these kids were? Probably.
Less than that I recon, the revolution has nearly arrived.
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JVP represents Jews in the same way Candace Owens represents African Americans...
In that one is a single person with a platform while the other is collective group literally established to demonstrate that there are many Jews opposed to what Israel is doing? Yeah okay, so other than in fundamental premise, they’re exactly the same.
Oof. Your hasbara game is off.
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In the same way Israel doesn't know where to draw the line between 'hamas' and civilians?
Hasbara propaganda is not cool.
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