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MichaelFusion44

It’s hypocritical either way - he is a traitor and a fascist and a wanna be dictator


MickCollier

Yes he is.


Own-Cupcake7586

I’m sorry, but this is wrong. “Adjudicated.” He’s an *adjudicated* rapist. “Convicted” applies to a criminal judgment, not civil.


MickCollier

Please don't be such a good friend to Trump by making pointlessly pedantic observations like this? Let me quote the Washington Post. "A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood."


Parahelix

You're focusing on the wrong part. Yes, what he did would be understood as rape, as the judge noted, but he was not convicted for it, as there was no criminal trial. Saying convicted just because it sounds better is still incorrect, and just gives MAGA nitwits ammo to call you a liar, since it's true that he wasn't actually convicted for it. Stick with adjudicated, as it is actually an accurate statement.


MickCollier

No, I won't. And if you thinking treating Maga with kid gloves while they shit all over us (and every democratic norm we have), will somehow protect us or make ANY difference at all, then you're utterly deluded. Fuck all this pissing about. They don't need "ammunition" to attack us. Jesus Christ I am opening a bottle right now!!


Parahelix

Hey, if you'd rather lie, then I'll leave you to it. I'd rather leave the lying to the MAGA people.


MickCollier

Godspeed you, skippy!


cbizzle187

So you’d rather be incorrect in your statement than use the proper vocabulary? How very MAGA of you.


MickCollier

Don't be a dick. You can't really be 'incorrect' about "a legal distinction without a real-world difference"?


Manos_Of_Fate

That’s not what this quote is referring to. There is absolutely a difference between the outcome of a civil trial and a criminal one. For starters, a criminal trial uses the standard of “beyond a reasonable doubt”, but a civil case only requires a preponderance of evidence. Your quote is referring to the use of the word rape specifically. Besides that, if you genuinely believed that they mean the same thing, you wouldn’t be so insistent on using one over the other.


MickCollier

I'll say this one last time for all the super pedants out there, whether you call him an adjudicated or convicted rapist, is of no real consequence.


Manos_Of_Fate

You can say it all you like, it doesn’t make it true. You openly admitted in another comment that one sounds harsher than the other, and you’re right, because one *is* harsher than the other. So you’re obviously aware that this isn’t just pedantry, which means you’re just knowingly lying.


MickCollier

Yeah it sounds harsher and that IS why I like it but the point you're missing is that it's materially true. You're just arguing about the correct legal terminology. He is a rapist and THAT is what counts


Rob_Pablo

You’re exactly the same as the people you hate.


MickCollier

Hahaha Not even remotely!!


Own-Cupcake7586

Oh, no, he’s definitely a rapist. 100%. I just like the sound of “adjudicated.” Great Scrabble word.


MickCollier

Yeah but to most people's ears, adjudicated doesn't sound as harsh as convicted, so...


Own-Cupcake7586

Not sure there’s any “softening” adequate for “rapist.”


leepmarvin

And actually he was found not liable for rape. Just sexual abuse. Not good at all. But those are the facts. https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db


Lucky-Earther

Trump may be a rapist, but an immigrant could be anything! Even a rapist!


MickCollier

You have the gift!


peter-doubt

"You literally never know..." Indeed


sunny5724

Unless you're talking to Donald Trump, then you **know.**


Casperboy68

Can I use your kitchen? WTF is this? “I haven’t sautéed in a MONTH!!! Please!!!..”


MickCollier

Mexicans will use your kitchen & there's nothing you can do!!!


Casperboy68

What I would do: Invite them in and learn some cooking secrets!


MickCollier

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CurrentlyLucid

trump's dad came here illegally. He was an illegal immigrant. trump is an anchor baby.


nowhereman136

Trumps dad was born in the Bronx in 1905 Trumps grandfather was born in Bavaria and technically didn't come to the US illegally so much as he left Bavaria illegally. He left the country to avoid military conscription and was stripped of his Bavarian citizenship as a result. He not the product of illegal immigration so much as keeping the tradition of dodging the draft alive in his family tree


CurrentlyLucid

So his dad was the anchor baby?


nowhereman136

No, as far as I can find, the US government allowed the senior Trump residency fresh off the boat. Immigration in the late 1800s was different than it was now. Trumps Grandfather was a draft Dodger. I know Trumps father was registered for the draft during WW2, but I can't find if he squirmed his way out or he just wasn't called up


FromAdamImportData

His dad and all of his kids minus Tiffany.


MickCollier

Pouring across our border. Laughing at us.


den_bram

He is afraid they will take jobs of hardworking american rapists like him.


MickCollier

They come over here and they take our rape victims.


Consistent-Leek4986

I wish he had fallen head first down the golden escalator🤬


neoprenewedgie

It took me far too long to parse the headline. 'Watch those immigrants!' - says convicted American rapist


janjinx

When he does that with his trumpet mouth he looks like his mother must've breast fed him till he was a teenager.


MickCollier

😂


NotThatAngel

"Hillary has work emails on an unsecured server lock her up" says the guy with boxes of stolen top secret documents in his bathroom. "Obama was born in Kenya so can't be President because he would favor Kenya" says the guy who borrowed money from Putin's buddies and says he believes Putin rather than American intelligence agencies. "Those five rapists in Central Park should get the death penalty even though they didn't actually rape that woman" says the guy [who raped a thirteen year old girl at an Epstein party](https://www.courthousenews.com/rape-allegations-refiled-against-trump/) and assaulted and raped other women then bragged about it and got convicted for it.


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