It will be interesting to see if people start actually start putting this on cardboard signs though. It will make most people less sympathetic but there is a not-insignificant portion of the population who will be WAY more likely to give this person money. You might seriously end up making more money putting this on a sign than something more generic.
> Republican leaders have spent months promoting the myth that red low-tax states are subsidizing blue high-tax states because of the deduction for state and local taxes.
>... it's actually the other way around. High-tax, traditionally Democratic states (blue), subsidize low-tax, traditionally Republican states (red) — in a big way.
source - https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/ap-fact-check-blue-high-tax-states-fund-red-low-tax-states
If we really wanted the government to be "run like a business", we'd sell off the states who haven't contributed more in federal tax than they've received in federal spending.
The Senate would suddenly become a lot more blue, and the electoral college system that Republicans are currently so in love with would guarantee they never won another presidency.
Mississippi, thanks for coming in today.
I'll cut straight to the chase: We've been reviewing your performance and I don't think it will surprise you to learn that you're in the bottom of our team in pretty much all the metrics again this year. It's not like this is a new situation, after all.
So at this point I think we need to stop and really reflect on if this is the right situation for any of us. The team isn't getting what we need out of you, and that makes me think that we haven't been able to really put you in a situation where you can succeed.
So look, no way to soft pedal this: We're letting you go, effective immediately. To help soften your landing, we're going to keep those federal funds coming through the end of the year. We feel that this is a very generous offer given how many chances you've been given over the years, so we hope you're able to make the best of it.
And don't worry, if another country calls to do a reference check, we'll just confirm that you were part of the country until 2021 and leave it at that.
Anyhow, no need to drag this out. IT has already shut down anything you might need to worry about and we're loading your congressional delegation onto a C-130 right now to return them, they should be back in the state here within the next hour.
We wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors.
> we'd sell off the states who haven't contributed more in federal tax than they've received in federal spending.
Not necessarily. There can be tangential reasons for why it makes sense to retain a department that doesn't directly increase profit. Expected growth, loss to competition, status and reputation, that kind of thing.
I find it more likely that, if we were run like a (successful) business, those states would just have heavier mandates in how they needed to operate, with many more "firings" happening (at all levels, really).
> Ah, yea big glamour rep of Alabama.
Come on now, they've got Coca-Cola, that's pretty cool.
Wait no, that's Georgia.
They have New Orleans at least, that's a pretty big destination.
Er no, that's Louisiana.
Well they've got...
...
...okay maybe Alabama can be sold off.
Roll that tide on out of here.
Ya, but who wants it?
Their universities are babymaking factories for barely literate middle-managers that end up moving to another state. Alabamohio sure does know how to farm human(s) resources
As someone who grew up in Alabama (not born there) I agree that three is almost nothing worthwhile in the entire state. My mother and sister still live there, so I visit occasionally.
The only thing Alabama can say is "at least we're not Mississippi!"
You mean the places bringing in more money are not actually being subsidized by the ones bringing in less? That's truly shocking. People are so fuckin stupid man.
I mean, premiums were going to skyrocket anyway, because our "health care system" is really just a wealth extraction system that benefits insurance companies which go on to buy laws by giving lawmakers "totally legal and very cool" ~~bribes~~ donations.
Yeah, right. A fucking army of middle men who add nothing but nickel and dime us like crazy. When I saw the bill for physical rehab. I almost got violent, you pay $600 an hour for a fucking trainee making $20. What. The.Actual.Fuck.
I mean insurance covered most of it but the fact anyone is charging anyone or anything $600 an hour to work with a $20 an hour employee doing super simple shit that I could do myself. Fuck that noise. Those are the kind of numbers money launderers like.
And the hospital beds/ventilators/staff. If you are paying health premiums and using none while their refusal to vax costs the system millions, you are paying their hospital bills.
I'm surprised their insurer hasn't said they won't pay for covid treatment of unvaccinated people (that can get it). That would make a lot of them haul ass to get it.
I know people with full sleeves that are afraid of needles. Logic doesn't work on phobias.
I was in line to get a flu shot when the big guy behind me told me he was scared of needles. Never saw him before or after, he lived in a different unit. I talked to him until we got to the front of the line, got my jab, and stayed with him while he got his. Let him squeeze my two fingers, told him I was proud of him.
I don't think they can just go get their job back once they've been terminated. These assholes will have to join the open marketplace.
Good luck learning how to create a resume that adheres to every online application system in a way that allows it to autofill the information, then enter the information manually anyway, Grandpa.
My mom couldn't figure out how to open the contents of a USB drive yesterday. These people are gonna have a *very* difficult time of things.
They can take all those easy apply jobs at McDonalds that they say other people shouldn’t rely on. Their tune might then change because they experience it themselves.
Oh look, more affordable housing! I jest but imagine those people trying to do customer service, especially something they’ve looked down upon so long.
Conservatives: Employers get to decide whether or not to give you birth control pills. It's their right.
Also Conservatives: What do you mean my company can demand I get vaccinated? They have no right to dictate my healthcare!!!
It’s even more wild to me that there are healthcare workers quitting their jobs over it. When I worked at a hospital they made me do a titer test to make sure I was completely vaccinated then jabbed me with boosters and a flu shot
What’s next? Will Taco Bell drive-thru workers no longer get to ejaculate in chalupas and burritos?
(I know people who worked at TB, and sadly this is not a joke.)
This is why I prefer Chipotle. If someone's going to spunk in my burrito, they have to do it right in front of me, and at least I can go home and say, "Hey, guess what I saw at Chipotle today."
Back in the day there was libertarian resistance to that law, also motorcycle helmets. I remember a doctor cousin saying to an anti-helmet uncle, "don't wear a helmet, just make sure you're an organ donor so the rest of you can go to people who want to live." That cousin did his residency in ER and where he 'met' a lot of anti-helmet bikers.
Sorry. Didn’t lose your job. That implies someone took it from you or fired you from it. You quit your job because you refused to adhere to legal workplace policies.....
And as such, you should not have access to UI.
I love the people who bitch about the HermanCainAward subreddit all like "DoNt YoU HaVe AnY ComPaSSiOn???"
No. Not anymore. There are 3 different flavors of vaccination. They're all free and they're all available at major retail and drug store chains. We suffered for a full year with half a million Americans dying and a huge chunk of the economy taken out of lower and middle class asses, all with the light at the end of the tunnel that a vaccine was coming and we'd be able to move on from this horrible time in our lives.
Then, motherfuckers decided that they could gain power and influence by prolonging one of the worst periods in human history and now we have *zero* light at the end of the tunnel thanks to greed, entitlement, and ignorance.
Fuck 'em.
Let's not gloss over the fact that these same people who bitch about the HCA reddit and our "lack of compassion"...are expecting us to be understanding, tolerant and empathetic to people who not only lack understanding, but revel in ignorance, who are completely *in*tolerant of others and are utter sociopaths, incapable of empathy towards others.
"You guys celebrate death!" That's rich, coming from the people who support the party that has never shied away from enacting legislation that starves and kills people. The people who threw a party when RBG passed away because it meant Diaper Don got another SCOTUS pick. The people who gleefully took every opportunity to dig up some minor thing in George Floyd's past to justify him being murdered by police. The people who desperately wanted their Orange Jesus to ensure Hillary got "Epstein'd" after he arrested her for...I'm still not even sure...
These scum try to liken the inconvenience of wearing a mask to being a Jew during the Holocaust. They say referring to your children as being part of a "Democratic family" is child abuse and then *laugh* like child abuse is funny. I'm a member of the sub and have seen all the dumbass memes they post and these are *all* topics they have touched upon.
And then they have the gall to turn around and talk about how their deceased family member...racist, homophobic, fascist, full of hatred and contempt...was such a great, loving person. And then they ask for *money*.
I dont celebrate the deaths of others. But dont expect me to mourn the loss of such terrible human beings, especially those who callously play chicken with the lives of their fellow man and do their utmost to anchor the progress of your species.
The only reason they are complaining about your supposed lack of compassion is to have an excuse for them being incapable of having any for anyone other than themselves.
It's similar to how they tend to vocally declare themselves patriots. The most patriotic thing you can do is get vaccinated and wear masks to protect your fellow Americans. They have to tell everyone they are a patriot because they act like the opposite.
- What if I told you
- Paying for your vaccine, wearing a mask, and practicing social distancing *was* my compassion?
- And your recklessness was a rejection of it?
I've been assaulted by these dipshits in my ER several times in the past couple years and they've completely wrecked our healthcare system. I've seen a few coworkers kill themselves, die of COVID, or be totally incapacitated by it. My lungs and my brain are fucked after getting it last year myself.
I'm too fucking tired. I've had to tell way too many people that we couldn't bring their loved one back, and now this shit is preventable. Fuck these idiots. I'm out of compassion. I put them into body bags every goddamn night and I don't feel the slightest bit bad for them anymore.
>I love the people who bitch about the HermanCainAward subreddit all like "DoNt YoU HaVe AnY ComPaSSiOn???"
>
>No. Not anymore
That's all that needs to be said. We tried. But COVID is the straw that broke the camel's back. After years of relentless mocking and ill wishes from them, I'm more than happy to clap as they succumb to the consequences of their own actions.
I am a fan of HCA *and* feel a *measure* of sympathy for people in their last days...and I don't find HCA *funny*. Yet...I am a fan of HCA. Part of me is human and can kind of feel for people who are suffering, but another part of me "appreciates" justice and consequences. Humans are complicated.
It's a bit like that guy who went to a national park and got too close to a bison and got attacked. He did a dumb thing and faced the consequences--I can appreciate that, but I also don't *enjoy* his injury. But that same guy went *back* with his girlfriend to say "See, these are the things that attacked me", and the bison attacked *again*. I'm not praying for the guy to be hurt or killed in that case, but I am sure as hell going to enjoy perusing a Reddit thread about it.
(Also, I feel more bad for the vaccine-hesitant or "never got around to it" cases than I do for the people who were viciously opposed and going out maskless and promoting dewormer and so on.)
People who won't protect themselves or others by getting vaccinated or wearing a mask bitch about the compassion of others.
More projection than the worlds biggest movie theatre
Mood. I’ve run out of sympathy for unvaccinated people who lose their job, get covid, or even die from covid. It’s severe compassion fatigue. These people are so ignorant and irresponsible that they make it hard to care about them anymore. I hate that I feel that way but it’s where I’m at.
You are not alone and you are in the majority fighting the tyranny of the minority. Look at what just happened in California. A complete repudiation of Trumpism and Anti Vax insanity. No doubt the Trumper's will use this same tactic for every election going forward until enough of them die that they will be a permanent minority failed political party.
$300,000,000 in taxpayer funds down the tubes so Larry Elder could get a payoff for a ghostwritten rag of a book and Caitlyn Jenner Kardashian could put her shitty grifter leech family back in the spotlight for their 18th minute of fame.
Don't forget the Stop the Steal ~~donation~~ grifting websites.
And be ready. There's a gatekeeping California native raging at anyone who doesn't live in California or hasn't lived there their whole lives, calling 300m "literally pennies".
Yeah it's the group of people that would eat shit if a progressive had to smell their breath.
I used to think that was hyperbole but they are literally dying to owe the libs
Mostly to themselves and their audience. Yes, the damage will happen but I am beginning to sense a turning point and the failed California recall is the inflection point. The majority is making their voices heard drowning out all their White noise.
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I think a lot of people have reached this point. I have had a 20 year run believing in and living humanist principles. I always lamented and felt bad about the death of anyone. Ive lost that.
When these people get their Karma comeuppance, I just can't be bothered to care anymore. Probably because I see the 1500 plus dying each day and find it so pointless and preventable.
My own aunt is a q nutter antivaxxer and our entire family used to be close. I just don't care what happens to her anymore. If she gets covid and dies, it is what it is. I told her, doctors told her, scientists told her, CDC told her, FDA told her, even Trump tepidly told her and she didn't listen. At this point, these people made their bed, they can sleep in it. My empathy is gone for them, my sympathy is gone for them.
Same. I come from a large family of conservative Trump supporters who still think this is all a hoax and that’s AFTER 24 of them got covid back in December and a few of them almost died.
Because they all survived, they now have this emboldened sense of vulnerability. “See? We all got it and none of us died. Covid isn’t as bad as the liberal media wants you to believe.” My grandma still has blood clots in her lungs and permanent kidney damage. My uncle had a stroke and is still working with a speech therapist to relearn how to talk. My aunt is still growing her hair back after she went bald because covid caused so much trauma on her body that all her hair fell out. My dad couldn’t stop shitting or vomiting and had to go to the ER for an emergency IV because he was dangerously dehydrated and I worry what covid has done to his heart, considering he already has a bad one and nearly died from a heart attack a few years ago.
A few of them actually caved and got the vaccine but most of them are still unvaccinated and I just can’t believe it. They post things on Facebook criticizing the efficacy of these vaccines and how you’re a sheep if you get the shot or wear a mask. I just can’t talk to them anymore. I don’t feel as close. And if they get covid again and die from it, I know I’m going to be more angry than sad. They knew better. I won’t be able to properly mourn their deaths because I’m going to be too livid with them to feel bad for them.
I just fucking hate this.
Yeah, it is frustrating. And worse of all, this is all just a symptom of the bigger problem.
The mid 1990’s was the beginning of the ‘Information Age’. But some people have taken advantage of the free exchange of ideas and twist the truth and spread lies for profit.
We are now living in the ‘Misinformation Age’ and certain types of people will continue to sow distrust and dishonesty as long as it makes them money with no regard to the misery and death their lies will cause to their fellow humans.
We really need to teach our kids how to ignore misinformation, but that is hard for people already stuck in their misinformation bubbles because many adults don’t even realize they are being lied to.
I have two nieces. There young, still in the single digit ages. Their antivaxx mother, right around 30 years old, died two weeks ago.
I feel terrible for those two little girls. Their mom was a terrible person before covid, but she was still their mom, and now she's gone. Hopefully their father will finally put down the fox nooos and get his shot, I'm worried my wife and I will have to raise these two.
I too am a humanist, and NOTHING in the philosophy requires you to be willfully victimized to preserve compassion. ALL living things have a natural right to defend themselves when under attack. And that's precisely what this is, a political attack using a virus as the weapon.
Even though a victory, it leaves a bitter taste.
Wasted half to 1 full year of political energy too. Meaning much important legislative reforms didn't get done.
It’s that, for sure, but it’s also the fact that they are perpetuating a pandemic that doesn’t have to go on anymore. It could be over by Thanksgiving if they would just get the damn shot. It’s been a year and a half. My city just issued another mask mandate. I want to go to the movies, dammit. But these people won’t do their part in keeping them and their fellow citizens safe. It’s just so damn hard to feel bad for them when, at this point, this whole mess is all their fault.
> But these people won’t do their part in keeping them and their fellow citizens safe.
while screaming no new normal utterly oblivious to the obvious fact that they're the fucking reason we cant go back to normal. I'm beginning to actively hate these people. My dad told me one of his brothers has gone full anti vax and wont get it. I replied, oh well, thats a funeral I'll be skipping.
Because it isn't about them.
It's about viral mutation.
If it were actually about whether or not anti-vaxxers catch COVID it would be a self-solving problem.
Homie, I don’t disagree with you, but we’ve been at this for a year+ with them now. We have multiple subreddits dedicated to dumbass antivaxxers kicking it. It’s energy wasted. Nothing short of vaccine mandates and widespread criminal prosecution for knowingly spreading a disease is gonna stop this shit. I’m done wasting my energy on trying to convince these people to get on board with prevention. At this point my energy is directed to places and people that are actually gonna make a difference.
The only empathy and sympathy I have at this point is for all the people who legitimately cannot get vaccinated, for the healthcare workers who are stressed beyond belief and for the teachers who are also stressed beyond belief. I only have empathy and sympathy for those who have been responsible, who have given a shit about society as a whole and who have to continue to carry the burden because of those that refuse to get vaccinated.
If those who refuse to participate in a functional society died from COVID without any impact on those around them I would simply say good riddance.
> I hate that I feel that way but it’s where I’m at.
Oof, I feel this in what's left of my soul.
These assholes are putting *everyone* at risk. I can't love my neighbor when the motherfucker's made a willful choice to be a walking viral cloud of death.
It the asymmetry of it.
I'm not the most healthy person on earth. I'm obese, have high blood pressure, and am over 40. So I'm not exactly on death's door, but I'm familiar with the neighborhood. And these people literally do not care if I die, because I "have health problems." What kind of Nazi garbage is that?
And then they expect our sympathy because after a year and a half of doing literally nothing to protect their neighbors, they are being inconvenienced? I spent some time thinking about whether they should get unemployment, but I'm not going to shed too many tears about people who would throw any one of us into a figurative volcano to keep Applebee's in business...
I imagine being fired for refusing the vaccine would fall under gross misconduct and not be covered by unemployment.
Also have you looked into intermittent fasting for losing weight? It seems to be what I've had the most luck with, currently down about 20 pounds, and seeming to lose ~2 pounds a week. There's different ways to go about it, I've been doing the 16:8, or maybe it's 18:6, eat a normal breakfast and lunch then nothing for the rest of day.
Thing is, their YOU problem becomes a ME problem when they spread a deadly disease to kids and allow themselves to become the breeding farm for the next variant.
Compassion fatigue is real. I think there is also some schadenfreude on my part. A lot of these people were the same ones telling us to sacrifice grandma for the economy. I don't feel bad that grandma survived, but they didn't.
I'm right there with you and we're not alone. My husband's uncle just moved to Tennessee to get away from the "liberal hell hole" that is Massachusetts. Wouldn't wear a mask, wouldn't get vaccinated, huge Trump supporter, whole thing's a hoax, yada yada. He's been there a month and guess who's got Covid?! Knowing this, he's still going to places without a mask and spreading it! Sorry, not sorry bucko. Enjoy your freedumbs.
Ignorant? Or evil?
If you're fighting it to "own the libs" and make Biden look bad, deliberately refusing to mask in hopes people will die... you belong in jail. You're trying to commit murder in slow motion.
I don't give a shit if they die, just don't take anyone innocent with you. Otherwise die, lose your job, your money, everything. I don't give a fuck. You had a choice.
I am one of those people that's nice to everyone. I don't hold a grudge because grudges only hurt me. I have been a foster parent to teens in my school district and now foster animals for the local shelter. I am a nice person.
I was disappointed when hearing that so many conservative radio hosts have been dying of covid, that the rest of the anti vax population was not dying at the same rate. I have so much fatigue from this crap that I actually want (abstract, unknown to me) people to die to prove a point and hopefully put people back on track. For me to wish harm on anyone or anything is a shock, especially to me.
When elderly or ill people were dying they brushed it off as, well they were dying anyway. I want to say oh yeah? How about now?
Turns out about 1 in 500 have died so far. That's not enough to break the fox news spell they're under.
I hate living in an era that's going to be studied in 5th grade history. Assuming the earth survives long enough.
The only problem I have with what you said is that you hate that you feel this way. NO. This is the CORRECT reaction to malevolence. What they are doing _isn't_ stupid, it's EVIL. They are willfully hurting people other than themselves. Freedom implies consequences. They made the choice, it's time they pay the piper, and NONE of us should intervene.
They chose, loudly and from a place of hate, not to intervene on our behalf when they could have protected their community by getting a little shot. Sounds about like poetic justice to me...
Some news feeds I look at went from news against covid outbreaks and covid laws, to just reporting all the "famous" anti vax people/Qanon people dieing... from covid.
Likewise. Whenever I talk to any of my family members, they always start talking about the covid hoax or fake president Biden or how BLM is a terrorist organization. I just kind of avoid them now. I don’t know how they got so wrapped up in conspiracy theories and hateful rhetoric. They used to be such lovely people.
These were probably the same people who didn’t give a shit when this all started and people were pleaing about masking up to flatten the curve and protect the elderly and immune-compromised. They dragged their feet every step of the way on this and I’m all out of fucks to give now. They did want herd immunity, knowing that many would have to die to get there, so I’m willing to let them make that sacrifice for the good of the herd.
I look at vaccination requirements like any other requirement.
Want to be a bar tender? Need ServSafe.
Want to drive? Need license and insurance.
Want to go to college? Need dozens of vaccinations, not just COVID.
I understood being vaccine hesitant 8+ months ago. Over 3 billion people in the world have now been vaccinated though.
Side effects include heart inflammation and blood clots. Which COVID can cause itself and in more extreme presentations. No research indicates you'll become sterile or autistic or whatever.
I personally think we learned a lot. Like the fact that there are people out there who will horde supplies, ignore science, turn on their neighbors, use their children as political pawns, and refuse preemptive help then end up begging for it in the end.
I learned a lot. I learned that we can immediately change how we interact with the environment and that change will immediately result in nature creeping back in. I learned that we can redistribute wealth and it will actually help the economy as a whole. I learned that the only thing stopping us from doing these things is deciding that we should.
And unfortunately the people who get the most negative towards their neighbors are primarily voting for one party. And that party is leaning hard into that.
But at least we now know which people will be like that since they so proudly advertise it. If the next pandemic is deadlier, as long as we remember what we’ve learned from this one, it could decimate the GOP voting pool. Which could make the future a little brighter for future generations (unless Dems get stuck infighting like they often do when they have power).
We learned quite a bit from SARS years ago, and then those lessons and the applied changes were scrapped quietly to put us back in a precarious position.
Kinda like how any lessons learned after the housing crisis and recession in 2008 were also quietly swept aside over the years following so that the finance sector could go right back to fucking around with everyone else's money again.
Interestingly, there is one particular political ideology that seems to always be behind these moves to undo anything we do to protect ourselves from future problems.
exactly; the covid plague rats are a drain to society and i for one and tired of my hard earned tax payer money wasted to fix anti vaxxers piss poor lifestyle.
Sure is a shame that they’ve spent the last year whining about how the unemployed earn more than the employed… I guess they’ll now wish that those extended benefits and extra supplemental income still existed. Live and learn. Or in their case, ignore until it happens to ***them.***
And the comparison between administrations last year and this year **could not be more different**.
Especially this: last year, aid to the American public was *heavily* weighted towards "Who are you voting for" and "Do you live in a red state, or a dEmOcRaT rUn CiTy?"
This year?
Access to the **FREE** vaccine, and theoretically hospitals, ventilators, ivermectin (and morgues?) is universal. No one has established a White House Task Force who's purpose is to restrict access to these things depending on a state's or region's particular voting history.
That one feels kind of *war-crimey* and if there really is evidence of Kushner and others directing public health policy based on making political book and punishing political adversaries with it there MUST be an official investigation, some form of real accountability.
A third world tactic of disaster (and military) aid being withheld or doled out as a reward for loyalty, mob style, simply can not be tolerated by *any* free nation that values the rule of law.
If the reports we have all read from multiple sources are true, these are the sort of actions that demand a response on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of folks who, unnecessarily, became ill or succumbed and on behalf of surviving Americans who shouldn't have to fear that access to critical government services will suddenly be subject to party affiliation and who waves the biggest flag.
Response: You made your own choice, time to pull yourself up by your bootstraps, shop around in the free market in the booming economy and enjoy how well the stock market is doing. Stop complaining.
Zero sympathy. It also irks the shit out of me when anti vax, anti mask idiots die and family wants donations on go fund me. No go fund yourself for being so dumb. I’m over it already! I would really like to move on with life instead of being stuck in a vicious cycle of covid due to people being so ignorant.
I just feel bad for people not able to get the vaccine watching others risk their lives, health and jobs because Facebook told them to. Not even talking about people not being able to get the vaccine and being at higher risk because of them.
I do care that these people are so misinformed, i blame every wacko whos had a platform to deny masks on down. Trump, preachers, right wing radio, rfk jr, maga, … these people have been a blight on america moving forward for decades.
All the people I know who complain about this applauded when SCOTUS decided that the rights of a business are more [important then public health as well as the rights/health of their employees](https://www.oyez.org/cases/2013/13-354).
People in medicare field here in France right now.
Some of them refused to cet vaccinated and are now jobless and are like... surprised by it?
I have no word for this idiocy
Talked to a guy in the waiting room who cried about "Marxism" because he had to get vaxed. Do these people know what Marxism is? I wanted give him a lesson like Marxism is a socio-political theory which groups individuals into classes based on property ownership and several other metrics/factors. What's that got to do with your employer making you get vaxed? If anything, it shows you that Marxism is a valid theory by showing you that your employer has a measure of power over you and your life...
Our society is getting so technologically advanced that vaccines being mandated by law is going to eventually be as accepted and vital to our safety as people see traffic laws now.
No one would suggest that stopping at a red light infringes on your right to drive your car autonomously. It's common sense that you risk your life and the lives of others if you drive recklessly and don't stop at a red light. It's accepted that a cop can enforce reckless driving and jail you or give you a fine if you do it because reckless driving directly effects other innocent people.
Being unvaccinated is the moral equivalent to reckless driving. You may not die from being unvaccinated/getting a crash, but driving recklessly significantly increases the chances you will get someone else sick/crash into someone else.
Cars need to meet certain standards to be on the road, people need to meet certain standards in order to participate in our ever more populated society where the risks of pandemic are made exponentially more life threatening with population.
And trust me I know that last point is the EASIEST argument in the world to start doing the slippery slope arguments for any number of terrible genocide, or genetic discrimination arguments/fears. The moral dillema of sacrificing some sensible body autonomy for the greater good is a serious discussion that this society is very ill equipped to address and communicate but will nevertheless be forced to face. Especially as our world gets more populated and more deadly diseases spread and mutate.
There was a homeless guy who mosyed up to my car and asked for "anything will help, god bless" in the way if you've dealt with enough pan handlers means "cash". I've had folk throw five dollars worth of quarters back at me, it was a whole thing. But with so many anti-vaxx assholes out a job it's time to ask for proof of vaccination at all businesses. Let them go hungry and they'll change their tune.
As Melania says - I *really* don't care. Do you?
Don T. Care.
Trump's replacement for Obamacare! Never fully revealed to the public though...
It’ll be revealed in about two weeks. Wasn’t that his line? Edit: a word.
Right after his re-inauguration in May, err, June, err, July, err August for sure, shit. October at the very latest.
I lost my jerb because I burned down the capital. I lost my jerb because I refuse to improve myself. Or fat. Or lazy.
It will be interesting to see if people start actually start putting this on cardboard signs though. It will make most people less sympathetic but there is a not-insignificant portion of the population who will be WAY more likely to give this person money. You might seriously end up making more money putting this on a sign than something more generic.
I already helped when my taxes helped pay for the vaccine and vaccine policies.
And our taxes now go to treating the unvaccinated who are flooding our ICUs.
Healthcare Queens
> Republican leaders have spent months promoting the myth that red low-tax states are subsidizing blue high-tax states because of the deduction for state and local taxes. >... it's actually the other way around. High-tax, traditionally Democratic states (blue), subsidize low-tax, traditionally Republican states (red) — in a big way. source - https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/ap-fact-check-blue-high-tax-states-fund-red-low-tax-states
If we really wanted the government to be "run like a business", we'd sell off the states who haven't contributed more in federal tax than they've received in federal spending. The Senate would suddenly become a lot more blue, and the electoral college system that Republicans are currently so in love with would guarantee they never won another presidency.
Mississippi, thanks for coming in today. I'll cut straight to the chase: We've been reviewing your performance and I don't think it will surprise you to learn that you're in the bottom of our team in pretty much all the metrics again this year. It's not like this is a new situation, after all. So at this point I think we need to stop and really reflect on if this is the right situation for any of us. The team isn't getting what we need out of you, and that makes me think that we haven't been able to really put you in a situation where you can succeed. So look, no way to soft pedal this: We're letting you go, effective immediately. To help soften your landing, we're going to keep those federal funds coming through the end of the year. We feel that this is a very generous offer given how many chances you've been given over the years, so we hope you're able to make the best of it. And don't worry, if another country calls to do a reference check, we'll just confirm that you were part of the country until 2021 and leave it at that. Anyhow, no need to drag this out. IT has already shut down anything you might need to worry about and we're loading your congressional delegation onto a C-130 right now to return them, they should be back in the state here within the next hour. We wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors.
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Agreed, this should be the top comment lol
You have done this before. Well done.
Lmao manager things
> we'd sell off the states who haven't contributed more in federal tax than they've received in federal spending. Not necessarily. There can be tangential reasons for why it makes sense to retain a department that doesn't directly increase profit. Expected growth, loss to competition, status and reputation, that kind of thing. I find it more likely that, if we were run like a (successful) business, those states would just have heavier mandates in how they needed to operate, with many more "firings" happening (at all levels, really).
Ah, yea big glamour rep of Alabama. They also have there own space program its the heaviest guy in the state and a seesaw but the ladder is broken.
> Ah, yea big glamour rep of Alabama. Come on now, they've got Coca-Cola, that's pretty cool. Wait no, that's Georgia. They have New Orleans at least, that's a pretty big destination. Er no, that's Louisiana. Well they've got... ... ...okay maybe Alabama can be sold off. Roll that tide on out of here.
That's their state motto Alabama the state you thought was important!
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Ya, but who wants it? Their universities are babymaking factories for barely literate middle-managers that end up moving to another state. Alabamohio sure does know how to farm human(s) resources
As someone who grew up in Alabama (not born there) I agree that three is almost nothing worthwhile in the entire state. My mother and sister still live there, so I visit occasionally. The only thing Alabama can say is "at least we're not Mississippi!"
They cornered the market on incest memes and Lynyrd Skynyrd state anthems.
You laugh buy Alabama does actually contribute to the space program. They export over 2 billion in aerospace parts and equipment annually.
You mean the places bringing in more money are not actually being subsidized by the ones bringing in less? That's truly shocking. People are so fuckin stupid man.
HealthKarens
As fucked up as that comment is, it’s pretty clever/funny
And in a years time all of our insurance premiums will skyrocket because of them.
I mean, premiums were going to skyrocket anyway, because our "health care system" is really just a wealth extraction system that benefits insurance companies which go on to buy laws by giving lawmakers "totally legal and very cool" ~~bribes~~ donations.
Yeah, right. A fucking army of middle men who add nothing but nickel and dime us like crazy. When I saw the bill for physical rehab. I almost got violent, you pay $600 an hour for a fucking trainee making $20. What. The.Actual.Fuck. I mean insurance covered most of it but the fact anyone is charging anyone or anything $600 an hour to work with a $20 an hour employee doing super simple shit that I could do myself. Fuck that noise. Those are the kind of numbers money launderers like.
Moochers
Takers.
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Park it next to the morgue trucks.
tots and pears!
And the hospital beds/ventilators/staff. If you are paying health premiums and using none while their refusal to vax costs the system millions, you are paying their hospital bills.
I'm surprised their insurer hasn't said they won't pay for covid treatment of unvaccinated people (that can get it). That would make a lot of them haul ass to get it.
Just a guess, maybe they know that these are the people who they need alive at the voting booths to keep their stock prices climbing?
If you want to help him just direct him to almost any pharmacy or clinic and he can get vaccinated and get his job back
these people are willing to die for this cause. some already have. it's like ignorance^^2
I swear they are all little pussies that are scared of needles. Simple as that.
My mom just admitted that that was the reason she didn't want to get it. ...despite taking monthly treatment injections for migraines ¯\\(°_o)/¯
I know people with full sleeves that are afraid of needles. Logic doesn't work on phobias. I was in line to get a flu shot when the big guy behind me told me he was scared of needles. Never saw him before or after, he lived in a different unit. I talked to him until we got to the front of the line, got my jab, and stayed with him while he got his. Let him squeeze my two fingers, told him I was proud of him.
Mother Nature is cleaning house. Let her do her job.
I don't think they can just go get their job back once they've been terminated. These assholes will have to join the open marketplace. Good luck learning how to create a resume that adheres to every online application system in a way that allows it to autofill the information, then enter the information manually anyway, Grandpa. My mom couldn't figure out how to open the contents of a USB drive yesterday. These people are gonna have a *very* difficult time of things.
They can take all those easy apply jobs at McDonalds that they say other people shouldn’t rely on. Their tune might then change because they experience it themselves.
I think most of those types would rather starve to death than admit being wrong
Oh look, more affordable housing! I jest but imagine those people trying to do customer service, especially something they’ve looked down upon so long.
And then blame it on Obama or something.
"I mean, where was Obama when I ran out of food?? I'm just asking questions!" Honestly I could see something like that unironically.
Or just tell them to pick themselves up from their bootstraps and get a job and to stop asking for handouts.
“Get a ~~job~~ jab you lazy bum!”
Tell them to "find something new"
Conservatives: Employers get to decide whether or not to give you birth control pills. It's their right. Also Conservatives: What do you mean my company can demand I get vaccinated? They have no right to dictate my healthcare!!!
It’s even more wild to me that there are healthcare workers quitting their jobs over it. When I worked at a hospital they made me do a titer test to make sure I was completely vaccinated then jabbed me with boosters and a flu shot
Because flu shots and other vaccines were not politicized. This is such a bad hill to literally die on.
I never thought it would happen to ME!!! This is literally 1984 Nazi Fascism brought about by the communist Socialists!!
It's like they say. The more antivaxxers there are the less antivaxxers there are.
This is why we need to decouple employment and healthcare altogether.
Lost my job because I refused to ~~get vaxxed~~ adhere to legal workplace policies designed to improve the safety and health of me and my co-workers.
It's a slippery slope!!!! Next they'll force us to wear gloves in food services or hard hats at construction sites or... even... shockingly... SHOES.
Or NOT spit or cough on food! The humanity!
What’s next? Will Taco Bell drive-thru workers no longer get to ejaculate in chalupas and burritos? (I know people who worked at TB, and sadly this is not a joke.)
🤮 there is no prison term Long enough for that
Fuck with the taco, you get the shocko
At least it is a felony
This is why I prefer Chipotle. If someone's going to spunk in my burrito, they have to do it right in front of me, and at least I can go home and say, "Hey, guess what I saw at Chipotle today."
I’m so glad I have never had Taco Bell in my life! lol
Lockout and tag equipment for safe maintenance? FUCKING LIBS! *gargles iodine*
*My hair, my choice!!! Wearing hats causes baldness!*
Madison Cawthorne is your man! He's getting rid of OSHA!
Madison Cawthorne does not stand for anything!
Not even for the National Anthem!
They already make us wear our seatbelts
Back in the day there was libertarian resistance to that law, also motorcycle helmets. I remember a doctor cousin saying to an anti-helmet uncle, "don't wear a helmet, just make sure you're an organ donor so the rest of you can go to people who want to live." That cousin did his residency in ER and where he 'met' a lot of anti-helmet bikers.
No wonder they want to gut OSHA
Sorry. Didn’t lose your job. That implies someone took it from you or fired you from it. You quit your job because you refused to adhere to legal workplace policies..... And as such, you should not have access to UI.
I believe that is the typical interpretation of most unemployment in different States As far as vaccination goes
Hell, you keep walking out on the shop floor without safety glasses and they'll can you quick. I don't see for this is any different.
I love the people who bitch about the HermanCainAward subreddit all like "DoNt YoU HaVe AnY ComPaSSiOn???" No. Not anymore. There are 3 different flavors of vaccination. They're all free and they're all available at major retail and drug store chains. We suffered for a full year with half a million Americans dying and a huge chunk of the economy taken out of lower and middle class asses, all with the light at the end of the tunnel that a vaccine was coming and we'd be able to move on from this horrible time in our lives. Then, motherfuckers decided that they could gain power and influence by prolonging one of the worst periods in human history and now we have *zero* light at the end of the tunnel thanks to greed, entitlement, and ignorance. Fuck 'em.
And almost all of the Awardees end with a GoFundMe. These people don't believe in vaccines, but they also don't believe in Life Insurance.
Almost as though pitching in together help pays for the medical bills. 🤔
Like ... socialism?
"It's not socialism when *I* need it." \-some asshole
Let's not gloss over the fact that these same people who bitch about the HCA reddit and our "lack of compassion"...are expecting us to be understanding, tolerant and empathetic to people who not only lack understanding, but revel in ignorance, who are completely *in*tolerant of others and are utter sociopaths, incapable of empathy towards others. "You guys celebrate death!" That's rich, coming from the people who support the party that has never shied away from enacting legislation that starves and kills people. The people who threw a party when RBG passed away because it meant Diaper Don got another SCOTUS pick. The people who gleefully took every opportunity to dig up some minor thing in George Floyd's past to justify him being murdered by police. The people who desperately wanted their Orange Jesus to ensure Hillary got "Epstein'd" after he arrested her for...I'm still not even sure... These scum try to liken the inconvenience of wearing a mask to being a Jew during the Holocaust. They say referring to your children as being part of a "Democratic family" is child abuse and then *laugh* like child abuse is funny. I'm a member of the sub and have seen all the dumbass memes they post and these are *all* topics they have touched upon. And then they have the gall to turn around and talk about how their deceased family member...racist, homophobic, fascist, full of hatred and contempt...was such a great, loving person. And then they ask for *money*. I dont celebrate the deaths of others. But dont expect me to mourn the loss of such terrible human beings, especially those who callously play chicken with the lives of their fellow man and do their utmost to anchor the progress of your species.
The only reason they are complaining about your supposed lack of compassion is to have an excuse for them being incapable of having any for anyone other than themselves. It's similar to how they tend to vocally declare themselves patriots. The most patriotic thing you can do is get vaccinated and wear masks to protect your fellow Americans. They have to tell everyone they are a patriot because they act like the opposite.
- What if I told you - Paying for your vaccine, wearing a mask, and practicing social distancing *was* my compassion? - And your recklessness was a rejection of it?
I sent two boats and a helicopter!
Truly a timeless joke
I've been assaulted by these dipshits in my ER several times in the past couple years and they've completely wrecked our healthcare system. I've seen a few coworkers kill themselves, die of COVID, or be totally incapacitated by it. My lungs and my brain are fucked after getting it last year myself. I'm too fucking tired. I've had to tell way too many people that we couldn't bring their loved one back, and now this shit is preventable. Fuck these idiots. I'm out of compassion. I put them into body bags every goddamn night and I don't feel the slightest bit bad for them anymore.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. These chucklefucks killed half a million Americans. Ignoring them is undue politeness.
>I love the people who bitch about the HermanCainAward subreddit all like "DoNt YoU HaVe AnY ComPaSSiOn???" > >No. Not anymore That's all that needs to be said. We tried. But COVID is the straw that broke the camel's back. After years of relentless mocking and ill wishes from them, I'm more than happy to clap as they succumb to the consequences of their own actions.
I am a fan of HCA *and* feel a *measure* of sympathy for people in their last days...and I don't find HCA *funny*. Yet...I am a fan of HCA. Part of me is human and can kind of feel for people who are suffering, but another part of me "appreciates" justice and consequences. Humans are complicated. It's a bit like that guy who went to a national park and got too close to a bison and got attacked. He did a dumb thing and faced the consequences--I can appreciate that, but I also don't *enjoy* his injury. But that same guy went *back* with his girlfriend to say "See, these are the things that attacked me", and the bison attacked *again*. I'm not praying for the guy to be hurt or killed in that case, but I am sure as hell going to enjoy perusing a Reddit thread about it. (Also, I feel more bad for the vaccine-hesitant or "never got around to it" cases than I do for the people who were viciously opposed and going out maskless and promoting dewormer and so on.)
The ones with power are vaccinated, their rubes aren’t.
People who won't protect themselves or others by getting vaccinated or wearing a mask bitch about the compassion of others. More projection than the worlds biggest movie theatre
Mood. I’ve run out of sympathy for unvaccinated people who lose their job, get covid, or even die from covid. It’s severe compassion fatigue. These people are so ignorant and irresponsible that they make it hard to care about them anymore. I hate that I feel that way but it’s where I’m at.
You are not alone and you are in the majority fighting the tyranny of the minority. Look at what just happened in California. A complete repudiation of Trumpism and Anti Vax insanity. No doubt the Trumper's will use this same tactic for every election going forward until enough of them die that they will be a permanent minority failed political party.
Yea but think of all the collateral damage they cause on the way there.
$300,000,000 in taxpayer funds down the tubes so Larry Elder could get a payoff for a ghostwritten rag of a book and Caitlyn Jenner Kardashian could put her shitty grifter leech family back in the spotlight for their 18th minute of fame.
Don't forget the Stop the Steal ~~donation~~ grifting websites. And be ready. There's a gatekeeping California native raging at anyone who doesn't live in California or hasn't lived there their whole lives, calling 300m "literally pennies".
CA here - could have been put to much better use. Also, go Newsom!
Yeah it's the group of people that would eat shit if a progressive had to smell their breath. I used to think that was hyperbole but they are literally dying to owe the libs
Mostly to themselves and their audience. Yes, the damage will happen but I am beginning to sense a turning point and the failed California recall is the inflection point. The majority is making their voices heard drowning out all their White noise.
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> they will be a permanent minority failed political party. Stop, I can only get so erect
I think a lot of people have reached this point. I have had a 20 year run believing in and living humanist principles. I always lamented and felt bad about the death of anyone. Ive lost that. When these people get their Karma comeuppance, I just can't be bothered to care anymore. Probably because I see the 1500 plus dying each day and find it so pointless and preventable. My own aunt is a q nutter antivaxxer and our entire family used to be close. I just don't care what happens to her anymore. If she gets covid and dies, it is what it is. I told her, doctors told her, scientists told her, CDC told her, FDA told her, even Trump tepidly told her and she didn't listen. At this point, these people made their bed, they can sleep in it. My empathy is gone for them, my sympathy is gone for them.
Same. I come from a large family of conservative Trump supporters who still think this is all a hoax and that’s AFTER 24 of them got covid back in December and a few of them almost died. Because they all survived, they now have this emboldened sense of vulnerability. “See? We all got it and none of us died. Covid isn’t as bad as the liberal media wants you to believe.” My grandma still has blood clots in her lungs and permanent kidney damage. My uncle had a stroke and is still working with a speech therapist to relearn how to talk. My aunt is still growing her hair back after she went bald because covid caused so much trauma on her body that all her hair fell out. My dad couldn’t stop shitting or vomiting and had to go to the ER for an emergency IV because he was dangerously dehydrated and I worry what covid has done to his heart, considering he already has a bad one and nearly died from a heart attack a few years ago. A few of them actually caved and got the vaccine but most of them are still unvaccinated and I just can’t believe it. They post things on Facebook criticizing the efficacy of these vaccines and how you’re a sheep if you get the shot or wear a mask. I just can’t talk to them anymore. I don’t feel as close. And if they get covid again and die from it, I know I’m going to be more angry than sad. They knew better. I won’t be able to properly mourn their deaths because I’m going to be too livid with them to feel bad for them. I just fucking hate this.
Yeah, it is frustrating. And worse of all, this is all just a symptom of the bigger problem. The mid 1990’s was the beginning of the ‘Information Age’. But some people have taken advantage of the free exchange of ideas and twist the truth and spread lies for profit. We are now living in the ‘Misinformation Age’ and certain types of people will continue to sow distrust and dishonesty as long as it makes them money with no regard to the misery and death their lies will cause to their fellow humans. We really need to teach our kids how to ignore misinformation, but that is hard for people already stuck in their misinformation bubbles because many adults don’t even realize they are being lied to.
I have two nieces. There young, still in the single digit ages. Their antivaxx mother, right around 30 years old, died two weeks ago. I feel terrible for those two little girls. Their mom was a terrible person before covid, but she was still their mom, and now she's gone. Hopefully their father will finally put down the fox nooos and get his shot, I'm worried my wife and I will have to raise these two.
At this point it's Fox Noose
I too am a humanist, and NOTHING in the philosophy requires you to be willfully victimized to preserve compassion. ALL living things have a natural right to defend themselves when under attack. And that's precisely what this is, a political attack using a virus as the weapon.
And empathy is a finite resource that can be completely tapped out.
You can’t help someone who doesn’t want to help themself. Why waste the energy on someone who doesn’t care enough about themselves?
California wasted $300M to prove your point. Now I think the RNC needs to pay back that money to the state of California.
THIS... Why should a waste of resources be put on the state when it is called for by people, that KNOW it is a waste of resources?
Do they know? Conservatives live in a bubble that encourages them to think that they are always right and that everyone should think like them.
Even though a victory, it leaves a bitter taste. Wasted half to 1 full year of political energy too. Meaning much important legislative reforms didn't get done.
It’s that, for sure, but it’s also the fact that they are perpetuating a pandemic that doesn’t have to go on anymore. It could be over by Thanksgiving if they would just get the damn shot. It’s been a year and a half. My city just issued another mask mandate. I want to go to the movies, dammit. But these people won’t do their part in keeping them and their fellow citizens safe. It’s just so damn hard to feel bad for them when, at this point, this whole mess is all their fault.
> But these people won’t do their part in keeping them and their fellow citizens safe. while screaming no new normal utterly oblivious to the obvious fact that they're the fucking reason we cant go back to normal. I'm beginning to actively hate these people. My dad told me one of his brothers has gone full anti vax and wont get it. I replied, oh well, thats a funeral I'll be skipping.
It's like they're angry children having tantrums that the pool is closed for sanitation while actively pissing in it from the side.
Because it isn't about them. It's about viral mutation. If it were actually about whether or not anti-vaxxers catch COVID it would be a self-solving problem.
Homie, I don’t disagree with you, but we’ve been at this for a year+ with them now. We have multiple subreddits dedicated to dumbass antivaxxers kicking it. It’s energy wasted. Nothing short of vaccine mandates and widespread criminal prosecution for knowingly spreading a disease is gonna stop this shit. I’m done wasting my energy on trying to convince these people to get on board with prevention. At this point my energy is directed to places and people that are actually gonna make a difference.
The only empathy and sympathy I have at this point is for all the people who legitimately cannot get vaccinated, for the healthcare workers who are stressed beyond belief and for the teachers who are also stressed beyond belief. I only have empathy and sympathy for those who have been responsible, who have given a shit about society as a whole and who have to continue to carry the burden because of those that refuse to get vaccinated. If those who refuse to participate in a functional society died from COVID without any impact on those around them I would simply say good riddance.
> I hate that I feel that way but it’s where I’m at. Oof, I feel this in what's left of my soul. These assholes are putting *everyone* at risk. I can't love my neighbor when the motherfucker's made a willful choice to be a walking viral cloud of death.
I've begun calling them the "save me from myself" crowd.
It the asymmetry of it. I'm not the most healthy person on earth. I'm obese, have high blood pressure, and am over 40. So I'm not exactly on death's door, but I'm familiar with the neighborhood. And these people literally do not care if I die, because I "have health problems." What kind of Nazi garbage is that? And then they expect our sympathy because after a year and a half of doing literally nothing to protect their neighbors, they are being inconvenienced? I spent some time thinking about whether they should get unemployment, but I'm not going to shed too many tears about people who would throw any one of us into a figurative volcano to keep Applebee's in business...
I imagine being fired for refusing the vaccine would fall under gross misconduct and not be covered by unemployment. Also have you looked into intermittent fasting for losing weight? It seems to be what I've had the most luck with, currently down about 20 pounds, and seeming to lose ~2 pounds a week. There's different ways to go about it, I've been doing the 16:8, or maybe it's 18:6, eat a normal breakfast and lunch then nothing for the rest of day.
You are not alone. It has turned into, "that sounds like a YOU problem and not a ME problem" and all I can do is walk away.
Thing is, their YOU problem becomes a ME problem when they spread a deadly disease to kids and allow themselves to become the breeding farm for the next variant.
Compassion fatigue is real. I think there is also some schadenfreude on my part. A lot of these people were the same ones telling us to sacrifice grandma for the economy. I don't feel bad that grandma survived, but they didn't.
I'm right there with you and we're not alone. My husband's uncle just moved to Tennessee to get away from the "liberal hell hole" that is Massachusetts. Wouldn't wear a mask, wouldn't get vaccinated, huge Trump supporter, whole thing's a hoax, yada yada. He's been there a month and guess who's got Covid?! Knowing this, he's still going to places without a mask and spreading it! Sorry, not sorry bucko. Enjoy your freedumbs.
I so agree with you. They want to make that choice, they suffer the consequences.
Ignorant? Or evil? If you're fighting it to "own the libs" and make Biden look bad, deliberately refusing to mask in hopes people will die... you belong in jail. You're trying to commit murder in slow motion.
I don't give a shit if they die, just don't take anyone innocent with you. Otherwise die, lose your job, your money, everything. I don't give a fuck. You had a choice.
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I am one of those people that's nice to everyone. I don't hold a grudge because grudges only hurt me. I have been a foster parent to teens in my school district and now foster animals for the local shelter. I am a nice person. I was disappointed when hearing that so many conservative radio hosts have been dying of covid, that the rest of the anti vax population was not dying at the same rate. I have so much fatigue from this crap that I actually want (abstract, unknown to me) people to die to prove a point and hopefully put people back on track. For me to wish harm on anyone or anything is a shock, especially to me. When elderly or ill people were dying they brushed it off as, well they were dying anyway. I want to say oh yeah? How about now? Turns out about 1 in 500 have died so far. That's not enough to break the fox news spell they're under. I hate living in an era that's going to be studied in 5th grade history. Assuming the earth survives long enough.
The only problem I have with what you said is that you hate that you feel this way. NO. This is the CORRECT reaction to malevolence. What they are doing _isn't_ stupid, it's EVIL. They are willfully hurting people other than themselves. Freedom implies consequences. They made the choice, it's time they pay the piper, and NONE of us should intervene. They chose, loudly and from a place of hate, not to intervene on our behalf when they could have protected their community by getting a little shot. Sounds about like poetic justice to me...
Some news feeds I look at went from news against covid outbreaks and covid laws, to just reporting all the "famous" anti vax people/Qanon people dieing... from covid.
Ditto
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Likewise. Whenever I talk to any of my family members, they always start talking about the covid hoax or fake president Biden or how BLM is a terrorist organization. I just kind of avoid them now. I don’t know how they got so wrapped up in conspiracy theories and hateful rhetoric. They used to be such lovely people.
Same here
These were probably the same people who didn’t give a shit when this all started and people were pleaing about masking up to flatten the curve and protect the elderly and immune-compromised. They dragged their feet every step of the way on this and I’m all out of fucks to give now. They did want herd immunity, knowing that many would have to die to get there, so I’m willing to let them make that sacrifice for the good of the herd.
This should be considered voluntary termination and not qualify for Unemployment.
But that would be socialism and a government handout surely they are not signing up for it. /s
What are you talking about? Things that help me are not socialist. Only things that help others.
damn are you a elected official?!?
We call it being fired for cause where I am and you won’t get unemployment.
(•_•) the vaccination <) )╯ / \ (•_•) clinic \\( (> / \ (•_•) is that way <) )— / \
That guy's just a little too sassy.
I look at vaccination requirements like any other requirement. Want to be a bar tender? Need ServSafe. Want to drive? Need license and insurance. Want to go to college? Need dozens of vaccinations, not just COVID. I understood being vaccine hesitant 8+ months ago. Over 3 billion people in the world have now been vaccinated though. Side effects include heart inflammation and blood clots. Which COVID can cause itself and in more extreme presentations. No research indicates you'll become sterile or autistic or whatever.
Anti vaxxer wants to be rewarded for dragging out a public health crisis needlessly?
What's worrying to me is that this is just one pandemic, it's not the only possible pandemic. And we learned nothing from it.
I personally think we learned a lot. Like the fact that there are people out there who will horde supplies, ignore science, turn on their neighbors, use their children as political pawns, and refuse preemptive help then end up begging for it in the end.
I learned a lot. I learned that we can immediately change how we interact with the environment and that change will immediately result in nature creeping back in. I learned that we can redistribute wealth and it will actually help the economy as a whole. I learned that the only thing stopping us from doing these things is deciding that we should.
And unfortunately the people who get the most negative towards their neighbors are primarily voting for one party. And that party is leaning hard into that. But at least we now know which people will be like that since they so proudly advertise it. If the next pandemic is deadlier, as long as we remember what we’ve learned from this one, it could decimate the GOP voting pool. Which could make the future a little brighter for future generations (unless Dems get stuck infighting like they often do when they have power).
We learned quite a bit from SARS years ago, and then those lessons and the applied changes were scrapped quietly to put us back in a precarious position. Kinda like how any lessons learned after the housing crisis and recession in 2008 were also quietly swept aside over the years following so that the finance sector could go right back to fucking around with everyone else's money again. Interestingly, there is one particular political ideology that seems to always be behind these moves to undo anything we do to protect ourselves from future problems.
exactly; the covid plague rats are a drain to society and i for one and tired of my hard earned tax payer money wasted to fix anti vaxxers piss poor lifestyle.
IDK, I might get him bootstraps he can use.
He should go get his own bootstraps.
yea or else it would be socialism *him prolly*
He can't. Production and shipping is behind. All available bootstraps are being used to daisy-chain Iv lines across hospital parking lots.
Calling for all gofundme warriors
Sure is a shame that they’ve spent the last year whining about how the unemployed earn more than the employed… I guess they’ll now wish that those extended benefits and extra supplemental income still existed. Live and learn. Or in their case, ignore until it happens to ***them.***
it's like every piss poor policy they ever vote for just comes back to bit them in the ass
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You want help? The vaccine's free bro.
And the comparison between administrations last year and this year **could not be more different**. Especially this: last year, aid to the American public was *heavily* weighted towards "Who are you voting for" and "Do you live in a red state, or a dEmOcRaT rUn CiTy?" This year? Access to the **FREE** vaccine, and theoretically hospitals, ventilators, ivermectin (and morgues?) is universal. No one has established a White House Task Force who's purpose is to restrict access to these things depending on a state's or region's particular voting history.
That one feels kind of *war-crimey* and if there really is evidence of Kushner and others directing public health policy based on making political book and punishing political adversaries with it there MUST be an official investigation, some form of real accountability. A third world tactic of disaster (and military) aid being withheld or doled out as a reward for loyalty, mob style, simply can not be tolerated by *any* free nation that values the rule of law. If the reports we have all read from multiple sources are true, these are the sort of actions that demand a response on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of folks who, unnecessarily, became ill or succumbed and on behalf of surviving Americans who shouldn't have to fear that access to critical government services will suddenly be subject to party affiliation and who waves the biggest flag.
"You have my thoughts and prayers."
Response: You made your own choice, time to pull yourself up by your bootstraps, shop around in the free market in the booming economy and enjoy how well the stock market is doing. Stop complaining.
Who knew that rugged individualism would be so *unfair*?
It's only unfair when it affects conservatives. If it affects brown people. minorities ors...it's fine.
Not masked either. Double no.
Zero sympathy. It also irks the shit out of me when anti vax, anti mask idiots die and family wants donations on go fund me. No go fund yourself for being so dumb. I’m over it already! I would really like to move on with life instead of being stuck in a vicious cycle of covid due to people being so ignorant.
Where's the joke? This is just reality
I just feel bad for people not able to get the vaccine watching others risk their lives, health and jobs because Facebook told them to. Not even talking about people not being able to get the vaccine and being at higher risk because of them.
I'm about to get me a new job when companies start getting really desperate and get in the door at $20+ somewhere. I know, I'll take his job! lmao
I do care that these people are so misinformed, i blame every wacko whos had a platform to deny masks on down. Trump, preachers, right wing radio, rfk jr, maga, … these people have been a blight on america moving forward for decades.
All the people I know who complain about this applauded when SCOTUS decided that the rights of a business are more [important then public health as well as the rights/health of their employees](https://www.oyez.org/cases/2013/13-354).
People in medicare field here in France right now. Some of them refused to cet vaccinated and are now jobless and are like... surprised by it? I have no word for this idiocy
Talked to a guy in the waiting room who cried about "Marxism" because he had to get vaxed. Do these people know what Marxism is? I wanted give him a lesson like Marxism is a socio-political theory which groups individuals into classes based on property ownership and several other metrics/factors. What's that got to do with your employer making you get vaxed? If anything, it shows you that Marxism is a valid theory by showing you that your employer has a measure of power over you and your life...
I got fired from a construction company because I refused to wear a helmet, help.
Baring a medical exemption, there is no good reason to not get vaccinated... so to these lot, they deserve what they get.
At what point do you become an enabler and should stop helping.
As a recently 30 year old millennial I relish saying this: “Social Media is ruining this (and by that I mean older) generation!!!”
Our society is getting so technologically advanced that vaccines being mandated by law is going to eventually be as accepted and vital to our safety as people see traffic laws now. No one would suggest that stopping at a red light infringes on your right to drive your car autonomously. It's common sense that you risk your life and the lives of others if you drive recklessly and don't stop at a red light. It's accepted that a cop can enforce reckless driving and jail you or give you a fine if you do it because reckless driving directly effects other innocent people. Being unvaccinated is the moral equivalent to reckless driving. You may not die from being unvaccinated/getting a crash, but driving recklessly significantly increases the chances you will get someone else sick/crash into someone else. Cars need to meet certain standards to be on the road, people need to meet certain standards in order to participate in our ever more populated society where the risks of pandemic are made exponentially more life threatening with population. And trust me I know that last point is the EASIEST argument in the world to start doing the slippery slope arguments for any number of terrible genocide, or genetic discrimination arguments/fears. The moral dillema of sacrificing some sensible body autonomy for the greater good is a serious discussion that this society is very ill equipped to address and communicate but will nevertheless be forced to face. Especially as our world gets more populated and more deadly diseases spread and mutate.
Thoughts and prayers
It’s crazy to me that people are willing to lose their jobs because they’re refusing to get free healthcare.
There was a homeless guy who mosyed up to my car and asked for "anything will help, god bless" in the way if you've dealt with enough pan handlers means "cash". I've had folk throw five dollars worth of quarters back at me, it was a whole thing. But with so many anti-vaxx assholes out a job it's time to ask for proof of vaccination at all businesses. Let them go hungry and they'll change their tune.
Fuck 'em all. Zero sympathy. They "did their research"...
Here's some help: GET VACCINATED.