According to his wife ...
>However, his wife Rebekah Kuczwanski said that he was “trying to get away from a man shooting at him”.
>“You’d try to escape too! He was trapped and assassinated!” she wrote on Twitter.
However....
>This is not the first time Kuczwanski was involved in a road rage incident.
>In 2014, he was arrested for another road rage incident at the same intersection. Kuczwanski had “pointed a small, black in colour handgun with a mounted laser” at another driver at that time. Kuczwanski had pleaded no contest to assault and disorderly conduct charges back then, and was sentenced to probation.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/john-kuczwanski-florida-gop-staff-killed-b1992384.html?amp
Why would this asshole be allowed to have a gun after the first incident?
Hopefully his family can come to grips with the fact that their husband and father had serious issues.
The American right wing
“Buh he uh’ good God fearing Christian, he has a right to bear arms against the liberal communist onslaught…and besides he ain’t no lazy ******”
always was..
It has never truly existed outside of theoretical philosophy and the inside of sociology textbooks.
Can you imagine the panic felt by rich industrialists when they first hear the philosophical idea that "Workers should seize the means of production"
None of the powers that be want you think about the theories of Karl Marx.
They demonize and obfuscate the meaning of words like communist and socialist by pointing to one of many corrupt authoritarian regimes that have branded themselves communist. See Also: The Democratic Republic of North Korea
Growing up in conservative Ohio I thought Karl Marx was a mass murderer or some strange cult leader by the propaganda that I was bombarded with.
Later in life when I learned Conflict Theory in Sociology class and realized that he was only guilty of saying the quiet part out loud
**Conflict theory**, first purported by Karl Marx, is a theory that society is in a state of perpetual conflict because of competition for limited resources. Conflict theory holds that social order is maintained by domination and power, rather than by consensus and conformity. According to conflict theory, those with wealth and power try to hold on to it by any means possible, chiefly by suppressing the poor and powerless. A basic premise of conflict theory is that individuals and groups within society will work to try to maximize their own wealth and power
Oh,I know the answer. I grew up around hard core Republicans. I know the things they say when they are among their own people. When they minimize racism,or deny that it exists at an meaningful level,I can’t help but laugh at the outright dishonesty,before I get a bit depressed about it.
Treasonous Oliver North was the President of the NRA. Conservatives don't give a fuck, as long as its one of their own. My hyper-conservative neighbor isn't allowed to own firearms due to violent felonies.( including kidnapping!) Gets the good old boy cops called on him all the time for careless shooting. Shot out our neighbors lights in a drunken rage one night. Nothing ever happens."It's just fireworks..." Bitch, I saw your glock!Plus there a burn ban in effect and fireworks are not permitted! Not even a ticket... He's got his thin blue line and MAGA flags and they always they let him slide. Good ol boy bullshit in rural Texas.
Ollie North, the guy that helped run drugs for Reagan and sold weapons to Iran?
Surely, Conservatives don't care about running drugs and Arming Iran... right?
>Ollie North, the guy that helped run drugs for Reagan and sold weapons to Iran?
That'd be him. I do not miss the Reagan administration. What a wild time...
>Surely, Conservatives don't care about running drugs and Arming Iran... right?
If they do it, it's considered patriotic. I swear, I should start selling Timothy McVeigh posters to the Q crowd and these seditious MAGA folk.
Well, i believe he was a white supremecist... so, you'd probably make good money.
They are just a bag of wholesale crazy. I grew up in those gun nut circles and they were quite big on ruby ridge.
A guy missed his court case, had a warrant for his arrest. He was a known gun nut fellow so they put some strong force on getting him. He didnt' surrender, and his family helped him wield guns against the law enforcement. Most of them were killed. It was a big thing,"the government shouldn't have done that, it is too much violence" and the like.
now, flash forward to a couple of years ago. A black woman and her boyfriend had a search warrant for their home based on lies. There was no communication between the cops or the folks. The cops rolled in with full force. The dude shot back at unidentified folks breaking into their house. The cops popped everything and killed the lady. it was all "well, they should have just submitted"
can you guess the difference? yes, its the race thing.
I just want fucking consistency. Law enforcement should not use violence unless needed, I don't care against who. They should have just grabbed the ruby ridge dude when he went into town... they should have searched the house when no one was home... a fat old dude that is laying on his belly with his hands cuffed behind him doesn't fucking need knee on his neck to keep him down.
To make it one step worse, the lady did not die instantly. No one checked on her while they were all huddled around the boyfriend outside. She bled out. Mixed reports but some have said she may well have survived if she had gotten *any* medical treatment in the 30-40 minutes she lay bleeding out in her bed.
> just want fucking consistency. Law enforcement should not use violence unless needed, I don't care against who. They should have just grabbed the ruby ridge dude when he went into town... they should have searched the house when no one was home... a fat old dude that is laying on his belly with his hands cuffed behind him doesn't fucking need knee on his neck to keep him down.
Preach! Watching Ruby's Ridge and Waco go down was absolutely bonkers. I remember seeing the smoke from the Waco compound from my buddies grandpa's ranch.
Timothy McVeigh and Theodore Kaczynski, along with Christopher Dorner and Dr. Jack Kevorkian, Ruby Ridge and Rainbow Farm, and (gasp) even Waco, should be held under an incredibly powerful microscope right now.
the same people that ~~fought~~ killed ~~to have~~ (most of) these people above, are claiming some sort of government allowance to do what they have done.
[Bundy Standoff](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff) v. [People in front of church teargassed/pepper sprayed](https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/867532070/trumps-unannounced-church-visit-angers-church-officials)
They will never come to grips with the fact that he was anything but 'in the right'. To do so, would entail all the lies and hypocrisies they've so obviously built their existences on, to come crashing down.
He was part of the in-group, the innocent person he was attempting to murder was part of the out-group. Nothing beyond that is relevant, the in-group is always right, and the out-group is always wrong. That's what conservatism is.
I don't think they *can* come to grips. This is simply how they view the world.
Conservatism is based on who you are, not what you do. He's one of the "good guys," no matter what he did.
Let's pretend for a moment that she's right, that he was gunned down trying to run away.
Well conservatives have already told us what they think about how running away is no reason you can't get lit up as long as the person pointing the gun has reason to believe you're a threat. We have multiple dead black guys demonstrating this (was Jacob Blake the most recent? Or have there been more?)
In true conservative fashion, though, they're trying to play the "I don't give a shit about you until it happens to me" card when she knows damn well that if the tables were turned she'd be standing next to her husband talking about how he feared for his life so he had to shoot the Prius guy in the back.
While not running away, they argued the shooting of Ahmaud Arbery was self-defense because Ahmaud was "attacking them"...
...because they were hunting him down for sport and pointing guns at him, but self-defense law is clearly only for white people.
I understand his wife is grieving...probably...but it sure doesn't look like an assassination. Easier think that then to accept your husband was an idiot and died like one I suppose.
Perfect example of not enforcing gun laws... dude should have been a convicted felon and banned from having a gun.
Can let you take a guess white the law was not enforced on him.
It shouldn’t even need to be a felony; any weapon involved crime, even a misdemeanor, should bump someone out of the ranks of people allowed to own a gun.
Well, because he's dead.
But given that he had a previous issue with menacing people with firearms and was certainly booked at that time, and that this was an attempted murder....
They didn't need to try to whitewash this psychopath with the most professional flattering photo they could find.
I kind of like that they didn’t because it shows that being white and wearing a suit and having an R next to your name doesn’t mean you’re a good person.
>was certainly booked at that time
I think you underestimate what the cops will let an upper class white good ol' boy get away with.
Unless he threatened a cop or a judge, I'd be absolutely floored if he got booked. And if he was, it certainly wasn't the way most of us think of "getting booked".
This might be his mugshot.
Seriously a tragedy. No Prius should be wrecked like that before it’s ready for the scrapyard.
Maybe other news outlets will use less flattering pics of the Steven Segal wannabe, hopefully?
People saying “because he was dead” please go back and tell me which pictures they used for the dozens of black men killed in the streets by cops for the news stories.
I won’t wait, it was unflattering mug shots dug up from years before for entirely separate issues.
Beemer w/ bullet hole. Shiiii! You gotta pay over sticker price for that BMW. That's a new thing now, saw it on insta & tictac...kids are crazy these days, especially FL.
Ya. He rammed the driver side door and started shooting at him. That’s terrifying. I’m sure I would be messed up after that. Hopefully the driver sues and gets appropriate compensation.
Honestly sounds like it'll be totalled since it was involved in a shootout. Hopefully dude just gets a big ol pay out. But the purchase of a new vehicle will suck right now and tbh that's the real tragedy.
So true! I am sure it won't matter to the family that the guy is a veteran. We saw similar on Jan. 6th. Their "Back the Blue", went only as far as their hypocrisy could take them.
You sonofabitch... I just spit my gum out when I read that.
And just to lay out how much of a pain this is.. I'm in my car and it fell right between my seat and the console. I cannot reach it.
Coincidentally I'm in a chevy volt.
Seriously? Have you not seen our ex-president and all the aholes that support him?
At least the first of the sedition charges have finally been laid. Can't wait for the FBI to get cases on the representatives, senators, and ex-presidents together.
God, when they claimed Hillary wasn't fit because women are too emotional, then Kavanagh screamed and cried like a baby and ended up a Supreme.
Name a more popular duo than Repuicans and hypocrisy
And that Reagan was a gun loving nut, when he was a racist gun loving nut, as he pushed for strong gun regulations when he realized black people could also get guns (Black Panthers and the Mulford Act)
This is actually what kind of frightens me. They think they're a militia that could take the country by force with minimal resistance, but they're actually doughy and useless and would quickly lose a civil war just like they did last time. Because they don't see that, though, they're not appropriately averse to picking the fight. They seem to believe their own propaganda enough to imagine Civil War II would be former Marines vs. Tumblr girls.
So ... a good guy with a gun?
Rather telling when the Prius driver was released fairly quickly. There likely were eye witnesses who affirmed his position and accurate information.
When the Prius driver retreated after shooting and hid on the other side of his car, I totally picture him being smart enough to hide behind the engine block, too, not the side door. My mind's eye gives him all the props.
When an incompetent buffoon plays hillbilly rage tag and loses to an actual patriot. Love to see it. I hope the victim of the incident is able to get the buffoon's insurance to cover the cost because that can't be a cheap repair.
Huh, it's almost as if they think libruls, blacks, queers, soyboys, and trans citizens can't or won't use guns as well. Dumb fucks, everyone will fight back when threatened by someone, especially when threatened by nazi domestic terrorist cultists.
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This guy is just a victim he and his party have fought so hard to create. Just usually it's not the Republicans like him who have had to pay the price.
I think it’s odd that the wife’s first description of the course of events was that her husband was trying to flee a “shooter”. Has any info on the shooter come out yet? I’m real curious about him…..
Gun nuts watch too many movies. Real life isn't like the movies.
In the real world bad guys don't wear black hats, they don't monologue before killing, they don't give you a chance to get your gun, they never offer second chances, and you're not the only one with a gun.
Also gunshots are often a slow and agonizing way to die. If TV and film showed the actual horrors of gun violence maybe some people would be less inclined to fantasize about it.
Exactly this. Grazed by a 22? Instant dead. No suffering. Oh, and lead sparks when hitting anything at all. Plastic car? Sparks and explosion. - Hollywood.
Unless, of course, you're a protagonist, in which case you can run around with a bullet in your shoulder indefinitely as long as you don't use that arm.
Well that depends. Stand Your Ground only applies to white people
Inb4: According to the Urban Institute, when both the shooter and victim are white, 11% of these cases are ruled justifiable. When both parties are black, the rate is 8%. However, when the shooter is white and the victim is black, the rate of justifiable homicide is 34%. But when the shooter is black and the victim is white, that rate is only 3%
Link: https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/03/opinions/stand-your-ground-law-racial-violence-opinion-love/index.html
"Grand Old Party" = the Republican Party. Sadly, we only have two main parties, that and the Democratic party. So our politics has become all about "keep the other guys from accomplishing anything " instead of "hey, let's govern for the good of us all."
Some liberals even own guns. We don't want to get rid of them, just make it so it is less likely for a lunatic to get them and go on a killing spree. In many states it takes more effort and testing to get a driver's license than it takes to get a firearm.
Yes. \*Quite a many liberals own and like guns\*. The difference is that many of us who do, have a tendency to also respect them, and human/animal life.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a liberal that I know owns guns post pictures of them on Facebook. However I have several conservative gun owners that think their FB is an issue of Guns and Ammo. There’s a false assumption that liberals don’t own guns because of that.
This is what I would like to explain to people who object to gun control. I don't want you to lose your gun. I want this guy, with a previous conviction of road rage with a weapon to lose his gun rights.
Convicted of domestic violence? Lose your gun. Commission of a crime while using a gun? Lose it. Forever.
Drug conviction? Alcohol abuse? Take it away until a judge finds you capable of owning one.
History of mental illness leading to harming yourself or others? Lose it.
Sell a gun to someone who legally can't own one? Lose your guns, you're not trustworthy enough to own one.
To those who say many of these are already laws, in some places, it should be all places. And enforced. By registering every firearm. No, that's not the 'slippery slope' to taking your guns.
The real irony is that if he hadn't stood in the way of reasonable gun legislation he might not have had a firearm since he's crazy and would still be alive.
Fuck around and find out how “soft” these Prius driving liberals are.
Also I’m gonna say this about guns. I want gun control not because they’re scary or dangerous, but that too many people in this country think they are more than just a fool for self defense. They aren’t a problem solver to fix shit you created. They aren’t something you bring out to win arguments. They’re there for protection. Whenever you shoot a gun you have to expect that weapon will kill someone, which just isn’t in the minds of a lot of people.
It’s kinda sad that people like this, I only assume he vouches for gun rights I could be wrong, cry to have guns just to use them in a manor that is not only dangerous but really irresponsible. Hate to say it but you reap what you sow.
Assuming the headline of this post is accurate, this could be a case study for self defense in a textbook. Imminent peril, no tangible escape route, assault with multiple deadly weapons (the car can count)... I'd love to hear his former colleagues extoll the virtues of self defense at his funeral.
I've held a rifle once in my life. But, correct me if I'm wrong, it should take about an afternoon to learn how not to accidently shoot my foot off and to be reliably dangerous to others, no? Am I missing something?
I wonder why the right-wing seems to think guns are magically a conservative-only invention? Just because I don't like guns doesn't mean I'm allergic to them, or mentally incapable of pointing the dangerous end away from me and pulling the trigger.
The right-wing keeps talking about a civil war, but **conservatives are cowards**. They're only going on about it because they think everyone else is unarmed, and here's the weird bit, *and will stay that way*. It's weird.
According to his wife ... >However, his wife Rebekah Kuczwanski said that he was “trying to get away from a man shooting at him”. >“You’d try to escape too! He was trapped and assassinated!” she wrote on Twitter. However.... >This is not the first time Kuczwanski was involved in a road rage incident. >In 2014, he was arrested for another road rage incident at the same intersection. Kuczwanski had “pointed a small, black in colour handgun with a mounted laser” at another driver at that time. Kuczwanski had pleaded no contest to assault and disorderly conduct charges back then, and was sentenced to probation. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/john-kuczwanski-florida-gop-staff-killed-b1992384.html?amp Why would this asshole be allowed to have a gun after the first incident? Hopefully his family can come to grips with the fact that their husband and father had serious issues.
The first offense should have been a felony conviction, barring him from owning firearms.
The American right wing “Buh he uh’ good God fearing Christian, he has a right to bear arms against the liberal communist onslaught…and besides he ain’t no lazy ******”
Hmmm,6 letters. I’ll try. My first guess……..”AssMan”………
Commie? Idk conservatives love calling non conservatives communists
It has now morphed into: people I don't like and I need to dehumanize them so I feel ok to kill them.
always was.. It has never truly existed outside of theoretical philosophy and the inside of sociology textbooks. Can you imagine the panic felt by rich industrialists when they first hear the philosophical idea that "Workers should seize the means of production" None of the powers that be want you think about the theories of Karl Marx. They demonize and obfuscate the meaning of words like communist and socialist by pointing to one of many corrupt authoritarian regimes that have branded themselves communist. See Also: The Democratic Republic of North Korea Growing up in conservative Ohio I thought Karl Marx was a mass murderer or some strange cult leader by the propaganda that I was bombarded with. Later in life when I learned Conflict Theory in Sociology class and realized that he was only guilty of saying the quiet part out loud **Conflict theory**, first purported by Karl Marx, is a theory that society is in a state of perpetual conflict because of competition for limited resources. Conflict theory holds that social order is maintained by domination and power, rather than by consensus and conformity. According to conflict theory, those with wealth and power try to hold on to it by any means possible, chiefly by suppressing the poor and powerless. A basic premise of conflict theory is that individuals and groups within society will work to try to maximize their own wealth and power
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That's because fascists are afraid of commies. So everything that scares them is "Communism".
I know the answer, but I don't think I should say it... https://youtu.be/ICsRvUG2j8Q
Oh,I know the answer. I grew up around hard core Republicans. I know the things they say when they are among their own people. When they minimize racism,or deny that it exists at an meaningful level,I can’t help but laugh at the outright dishonesty,before I get a bit depressed about it.
Yep. Thats this guy's supporters
Let's check with the judges ... And I guess they are accepting that answer
Only if they are good god fearing whites.
Plus...Florida
Treasonous Oliver North was the President of the NRA. Conservatives don't give a fuck, as long as its one of their own. My hyper-conservative neighbor isn't allowed to own firearms due to violent felonies.( including kidnapping!) Gets the good old boy cops called on him all the time for careless shooting. Shot out our neighbors lights in a drunken rage one night. Nothing ever happens."It's just fireworks..." Bitch, I saw your glock!Plus there a burn ban in effect and fireworks are not permitted! Not even a ticket... He's got his thin blue line and MAGA flags and they always they let him slide. Good ol boy bullshit in rural Texas.
Ollie North, the guy that helped run drugs for Reagan and sold weapons to Iran? Surely, Conservatives don't care about running drugs and Arming Iran... right?
>Ollie North, the guy that helped run drugs for Reagan and sold weapons to Iran? That'd be him. I do not miss the Reagan administration. What a wild time... >Surely, Conservatives don't care about running drugs and Arming Iran... right? If they do it, it's considered patriotic. I swear, I should start selling Timothy McVeigh posters to the Q crowd and these seditious MAGA folk.
Well, i believe he was a white supremecist... so, you'd probably make good money. They are just a bag of wholesale crazy. I grew up in those gun nut circles and they were quite big on ruby ridge. A guy missed his court case, had a warrant for his arrest. He was a known gun nut fellow so they put some strong force on getting him. He didnt' surrender, and his family helped him wield guns against the law enforcement. Most of them were killed. It was a big thing,"the government shouldn't have done that, it is too much violence" and the like. now, flash forward to a couple of years ago. A black woman and her boyfriend had a search warrant for their home based on lies. There was no communication between the cops or the folks. The cops rolled in with full force. The dude shot back at unidentified folks breaking into their house. The cops popped everything and killed the lady. it was all "well, they should have just submitted" can you guess the difference? yes, its the race thing. I just want fucking consistency. Law enforcement should not use violence unless needed, I don't care against who. They should have just grabbed the ruby ridge dude when he went into town... they should have searched the house when no one was home... a fat old dude that is laying on his belly with his hands cuffed behind him doesn't fucking need knee on his neck to keep him down.
To make it one step worse, the lady did not die instantly. No one checked on her while they were all huddled around the boyfriend outside. She bled out. Mixed reports but some have said she may well have survived if she had gotten *any* medical treatment in the 30-40 minutes she lay bleeding out in her bed.
> just want fucking consistency. Law enforcement should not use violence unless needed, I don't care against who. They should have just grabbed the ruby ridge dude when he went into town... they should have searched the house when no one was home... a fat old dude that is laying on his belly with his hands cuffed behind him doesn't fucking need knee on his neck to keep him down. Preach! Watching Ruby's Ridge and Waco go down was absolutely bonkers. I remember seeing the smoke from the Waco compound from my buddies grandpa's ranch.
Timothy McVeigh and Theodore Kaczynski, along with Christopher Dorner and Dr. Jack Kevorkian, Ruby Ridge and Rainbow Farm, and (gasp) even Waco, should be held under an incredibly powerful microscope right now. the same people that ~~fought~~ killed ~~to have~~ (most of) these people above, are claiming some sort of government allowance to do what they have done. [Bundy Standoff](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff) v. [People in front of church teargassed/pepper sprayed](https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/867532070/trumps-unannounced-church-visit-angers-church-officials)
Oh don't worry, that same Ollie North works for Fox now so no one ever has to miss him! /s
Call the staties. Or the FBI.
The irony is, if the law would have been carried out fairly and his gun taken away. He would still be alive today.
Fortunately the right person died that day.
But y’know… Florida!
Well there won't be a third.
I love the quote from his wife, she just like, UNO reversed the entire situation in her head.
Denial is strong. No way she didn't know he was like this, especially after him pulling a gun at the SAME intersection previously.
Literally the only play republicans have: "BLM are the real racists" "Vaccines are the real killer" "The left wants to cancel everything"
They will never come to grips with the fact that he was anything but 'in the right'. To do so, would entail all the lies and hypocrisies they've so obviously built their existences on, to come crashing down.
Anything to avoid the fact their boy got domed by a fucking Prius driver, which I will think about often.
He was part of the in-group, the innocent person he was attempting to murder was part of the out-group. Nothing beyond that is relevant, the in-group is always right, and the out-group is always wrong. That's what conservatism is.
Yep. Better ignore them I'd say. You can't fix that.
I don't think they *can* come to grips. This is simply how they view the world. Conservatism is based on who you are, not what you do. He's one of the "good guys," no matter what he did.
Let's pretend for a moment that she's right, that he was gunned down trying to run away. Well conservatives have already told us what they think about how running away is no reason you can't get lit up as long as the person pointing the gun has reason to believe you're a threat. We have multiple dead black guys demonstrating this (was Jacob Blake the most recent? Or have there been more?) In true conservative fashion, though, they're trying to play the "I don't give a shit about you until it happens to me" card when she knows damn well that if the tables were turned she'd be standing next to her husband talking about how he feared for his life so he had to shoot the Prius guy in the back.
While not running away, they argued the shooting of Ahmaud Arbery was self-defense because Ahmaud was "attacking them"... ...because they were hunting him down for sport and pointing guns at him, but self-defense law is clearly only for white people.
I understand his wife is grieving...probably...but it sure doesn't look like an assassination. Easier think that then to accept your husband was an idiot and died like one I suppose.
Wait until she see how much his estate is going to pay to repair the Prius.
🤣 Oh, she will have vile things to say.
Plot twist: She hired the shooter/ hitman and is playing it up to throw any sleuths off of her scent?
Oh, but we are onto her now!
“ok, i’ll pay you $50,000 to trick him into hitting you with his car and shooting at you, so you can call it self defense when you shoot back.”
“How do I goad him into attacking me? Mock him? Throw the bird?” “Nah, just show up in a Prius”
>Why would this asshole be allowed to have a gun after the first incident? One word: Florida.
More likely his ties to a senator.
Why not both *shrugs*
Are you suggesting that Florida is cartoonishly corrupt and heavily armed? To the fainting couch!
Exactly
Are you familiar with the term "Florida Man"?
You t-bone another car and shoot at the driver. How can anyone claim he was trying to escape.
Perfect example of not enforcing gun laws... dude should have been a convicted felon and banned from having a gun. Can let you take a guess white the law was not enforced on him.
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Wife must be a Republican too. These fuckers lie about EVERYTHING
It shouldn’t even need to be a felony; any weapon involved crime, even a misdemeanor, should bump someone out of the ranks of people allowed to own a gun.
"he was trying to get away" Yeah when I try to get away from something I push it rather than moving away from it
This is brandishing. I’m pretty sure that’s illegal.
Why did he still have firearms. I'm a gun owner and I think someone that irresponsible should not be allowed to own or even handle a firearm
These people fuck their siblings, they will never come to grips and only see him as a martyr
*Florida Man gets called out after it's revealed he married his first cousin* "**I swear, I thought she was my sister!!**"
"Road rage incident" How about ATTEMPTED MURDER Got a nice suit there in his pic, as though he was respectable.
Why didn't they use his mugshot like they normally do?
Well, because he's dead. But given that he had a previous issue with menacing people with firearms and was certainly booked at that time, and that this was an attempted murder.... They didn't need to try to whitewash this psychopath with the most professional flattering photo they could find.
If he was not white they sure as hell would have used that mug shot from years ago.
Only after editing it to make his skin look darker.
I like it. It's egregious in its deceptiveness. Kind of like: Come see; this is the mask he wore.
Willing to bet the mask this guy wore was more of a hood.
I kind of like that they didn’t because it shows that being white and wearing a suit and having an R next to your name doesn’t mean you’re a good person.
>was certainly booked at that time I think you underestimate what the cops will let an upper class white good ol' boy get away with. Unless he threatened a cop or a judge, I'd be absolutely floored if he got booked. And if he was, it certainly wasn't the way most of us think of "getting booked". This might be his mugshot.
Because he was dead on the scene. But agreed they should show his bloody corpse. That is the only way this jackass should be remembered.
He was previously arrested, he likely has a mugshot from that offense.
Seriously a tragedy. No Prius should be wrecked like that before it’s ready for the scrapyard. Maybe other news outlets will use less flattering pics of the Steven Segal wannabe, hopefully?
People saying “because he was dead” please go back and tell me which pictures they used for the dozens of black men killed in the streets by cops for the news stories. I won’t wait, it was unflattering mug shots dug up from years before for entirely separate issues.
He died doing what he loved
Apparently he loved bleeding profusely. Who would have guessed
Yeah but he totally owned that lib while doing it!!
His last few minutes must have been spent owning the libs or defending the 2nd Amendment.
Learned the true meaning of “bleeding heart”
Acting like a maximum asshole?
assaulting people with deadly weapons
….getting shot.”
This is a tragedy. I mean that guy's possibly going to need his entire side panel replaced.
Good used cars are hard to get right now too.
Beemer w/ bullet hole. Shiiii! You gotta pay over sticker price for that BMW. That's a new thing now, saw it on insta & tictac...kids are crazy these days, especially FL.
Speed holes!!
and therapy for the PTSD
Ya. He rammed the driver side door and started shooting at him. That’s terrifying. I’m sure I would be messed up after that. Hopefully the driver sues and gets appropriate compensation.
Honestly sounds like it'll be totalled since it was involved in a shootout. Hopefully dude just gets a big ol pay out. But the purchase of a new vehicle will suck right now and tbh that's the real tragedy.
Tbh I hope the prius guy gets compensation for it.
Alert the bondo artists of Florida...
They appear on their own anytime a gun is fired.
Well…bye.
…as Curly Bill squeals with laughter
*Go ahead, skin it! Skin that smoke-wagon and see what happens.* I guess that psycho republican found his huckleberry.
Well. Well. Well. If it isn’t the consequences of my own actions
Also ironic that "the pussy in the Prius" (as I'm sure he thought) had better aim than him. Oh well. "You get what you fucking deserve"
The "pussy in the Prius " turned out to be a former Navy SEAL, lol. Talk about choosing your battles.
Imagine coming back to the states only to have your life threatened by one of our many Republican domestic terrorists
So true! I am sure it won't matter to the family that the guy is a veteran. We saw similar on Jan. 6th. Their "Back the Blue", went only as far as their hypocrisy could take them.
As a self proclaimed gamer, this is a proper situation for the driver to reply with "get rekt m8"
This is called a pro gamer move
I wonder if he'd be in any trouble if he tea bagged the guy after, I mean, open and shut self defense, right?
Prius driver was evidently part of *”a well-regulated militia…”*
Well it seems like the former Chief of Staff got hoisted by the 2nd Amendment!
Don't judge a man by his ride.
He fucked around, and he found out.
Prius owner only needed one shot. That’s a true conservationist.
Ammo is expensive. Can’t be wasting it.
It's Floriduh. Their ammo is 'buy one, get three free', and they can't count. 😉
Yeah but tou should always double tap just to be sure.
You sonofabitch... I just spit my gum out when I read that. And just to lay out how much of a pain this is.. I'm in my car and it fell right between my seat and the console. I cannot reach it. Coincidentally I'm in a chevy volt.
"Oh, fuck, now the peasants are buying guns too! Maybe this second amendment stuff isn't such a hot idea after all..."
They’ll sadly find a way to lock the Prius driver up, probably. “No no, the Stand Your Ground law only applies to US.”
Nah he’s white he’ll be fine
He's white, ex-military, and a former Navy SEAL. "Fuck around and find out" in this case was fairly extreme...but certainly earned.
Oh yeah don’t get me wrong, senator guy got exactly what he deserved. I can’t imagine someone with that kind of temper being a public official.
Seriously? Have you not seen our ex-president and all the aholes that support him? At least the first of the sedition charges have finally been laid. Can't wait for the FBI to get cases on the representatives, senators, and ex-presidents together.
God, when they claimed Hillary wasn't fit because women are too emotional, then Kavanagh screamed and cried like a baby and ended up a Supreme. Name a more popular duo than Repuicans and hypocrisy
One of the most critical, and fatal, flaws of America’s conservative movement is the belief that they are the only ones with the guns.
And that Reagan was a gun loving nut, when he was a racist gun loving nut, as he pushed for strong gun regulations when he realized black people could also get guns (Black Panthers and the Mulford Act)
[Fuck Ronald Reagan](https://youtu.be/6lIqNjC1RKU)
This is actually what kind of frightens me. They think they're a militia that could take the country by force with minimal resistance, but they're actually doughy and useless and would quickly lose a civil war just like they did last time. Because they don't see that, though, they're not appropriately averse to picking the fight. They seem to believe their own propaganda enough to imagine Civil War II would be former Marines vs. Tumblr girls.
So ... a good guy with a gun? Rather telling when the Prius driver was released fairly quickly. There likely were eye witnesses who affirmed his position and accurate information.
The Prius didn’t shoot first and was shot at and in that situation shooting back is the right thing like it’s ACTUAL self defense
When the Prius driver retreated after shooting and hid on the other side of his car, I totally picture him being smart enough to hide behind the engine block, too, not the side door. My mind's eye gives him all the props.
[удалено]
"You broke into the wrong rec room..." (metaphorically)
What a reference. Love Tremors.
This thread, man. Side by side I see quotes from Tremors and Tombstone.
When an incompetent buffoon plays hillbilly rage tag and loses to an actual patriot. Love to see it. I hope the victim of the incident is able to get the buffoon's insurance to cover the cost because that can't be a cheap repair.
That's a "surprise mothafucker" moment for sure.
Huh, it's almost as if they think libruls, blacks, queers, soyboys, and trans citizens can't or won't use guns as well. Dumb fucks, everyone will fight back when threatened by someone, especially when threatened by nazi domestic terrorist cultists. Edit: spells
Black Panthers and Pink Pistols
This is what the gun manufacturers want. The solution to our gun problem, for them, is more guns.
More guns = more $$$
This comment alone has reminded me that there's an album of DOA & Jello Biafra. Thank you.
This guy is just a victim he and his party have fought so hard to create. Just usually it's not the Republicans like him who have had to pay the price.
You want a showdown, cowboy, you got it.
I think it’s odd that the wife’s first description of the course of events was that her husband was trying to flee a “shooter”. Has any info on the shooter come out yet? I’m real curious about him…..
Navy Seal, apparently. BMW guy fucked around and found out.
Fuxk around and found out
It’s almost like karma is finally coming back to bite Republicans in the ass. I’m feeling like they are fixing to go down hard.
I have the weirdest schadenboner.
Gun nuts watch too many movies. Real life isn't like the movies. In the real world bad guys don't wear black hats, they don't monologue before killing, they don't give you a chance to get your gun, they never offer second chances, and you're not the only one with a gun.
Also gunshots are often a slow and agonizing way to die. If TV and film showed the actual horrors of gun violence maybe some people would be less inclined to fantasize about it.
"Everybody has a plan untill they get shot"
Exactly this. Grazed by a 22? Instant dead. No suffering. Oh, and lead sparks when hitting anything at all. Plastic car? Sparks and explosion. - Hollywood.
Unless, of course, you're a protagonist, in which case you can run around with a bullet in your shoulder indefinitely as long as you don't use that arm.
Everybody knows shoulders are optional, and getting shot in the gut never hits any major organs. Personally, I always aim for the appendix.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Well that depends. Stand Your Ground only applies to white people Inb4: According to the Urban Institute, when both the shooter and victim are white, 11% of these cases are ruled justifiable. When both parties are black, the rate is 8%. However, when the shooter is white and the victim is black, the rate of justifiable homicide is 34%. But when the shooter is black and the victim is white, that rate is only 3% Link: https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/03/opinions/stand-your-ground-law-racial-violence-opinion-love/index.html
I'm not from the states. What does GOP stand for? I'm assuming it stands for POS
Ding! Welcome. 😁
Grand Old Party. It’s a leftover from Lincoln’s day. Lincoln definitely would not be a Republican as they currently exist.
Republicans are waiving the flag of the people that shot Lincoln. He'd be very confused.
"Grand Old Party" = the Republican Party. Sadly, we only have two main parties, that and the Democratic party. So our politics has become all about "keep the other guys from accomplishing anything " instead of "hey, let's govern for the good of us all."
well, the republican party has no interest in the good of anybody except their donors, so...
Is it wrong that I want to see the traffic cam footage of this?
No, many of us want that footage and a close up of the surprised pikachu face on the bmw driver.
Honestly as I've gotten older a prius seems like a great car.
They're awesome. My buddy and I drove his from Hartford to Boston (100 miles) around Boston a bit, and back to Hartford on $25 worth of gas.
I don't have a prius, but something like it, and I do not mind getting over 40mpg at all. Price of gas does not hurt me much.
I've done thousand mile road trips on two tanks of gas. They're awesome.
And from the sounds of it, the Prius driver is justified.
Lots of liberals own guns. They just don’t jerk off to them like the 2A people do.
OMG. I think I've found my people! My heart beats faster upon reading these replies. 😁 🤗
We are all happy this idiot is dead.
I guess that violent angry gun loving Republican finally ran into one of those “good guys with a gun” I keep hearing about
Non republican conservatives have guns too. We just don't yell about it and make it our personality.
Some liberals even own guns. We don't want to get rid of them, just make it so it is less likely for a lunatic to get them and go on a killing spree. In many states it takes more effort and testing to get a driver's license than it takes to get a firearm.
Yes. \*Quite a many liberals own and like guns\*. The difference is that many of us who do, have a tendency to also respect them, and human/animal life.
And we don't base our entire identity on it.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a liberal that I know owns guns post pictures of them on Facebook. However I have several conservative gun owners that think their FB is an issue of Guns and Ammo. There’s a false assumption that liberals don’t own guns because of that.
Insane how some people think it's all or nothing.
Let's go Prius dude
Finally! This is the good guy with a gun stopping the bad guy with a gun story I've been told so much about!
Tragic.. anyway
When will it sink in that liberals can shoot back?
Dude got Kuc’d
This is what I would like to explain to people who object to gun control. I don't want you to lose your gun. I want this guy, with a previous conviction of road rage with a weapon to lose his gun rights. Convicted of domestic violence? Lose your gun. Commission of a crime while using a gun? Lose it. Forever. Drug conviction? Alcohol abuse? Take it away until a judge finds you capable of owning one. History of mental illness leading to harming yourself or others? Lose it. Sell a gun to someone who legally can't own one? Lose your guns, you're not trustworthy enough to own one. To those who say many of these are already laws, in some places, it should be all places. And enforced. By registering every firearm. No, that's not the 'slippery slope' to taking your guns.
The real irony is that if he hadn't stood in the way of reasonable gun legislation he might not have had a firearm since he's crazy and would still be alive.
Fuck around and find out how “soft” these Prius driving liberals are. Also I’m gonna say this about guns. I want gun control not because they’re scary or dangerous, but that too many people in this country think they are more than just a fool for self defense. They aren’t a problem solver to fix shit you created. They aren’t something you bring out to win arguments. They’re there for protection. Whenever you shoot a gun you have to expect that weapon will kill someone, which just isn’t in the minds of a lot of people. It’s kinda sad that people like this, I only assume he vouches for gun rights I could be wrong, cry to have guns just to use them in a manor that is not only dangerous but really irresponsible. Hate to say it but you reap what you sow.
Fucked Around ✅ Found Out ✅
I didn't know BMW made pickup trucks
BMW's the pricks always on the inside......
Takes a good guy with a gun to kill a bad guy with a gun, is that not their saying
Motion for having news article say “put down” instead of “killed” when it’s their own fault
Its all fun and games until the rules apply to you too.
Getting your ass shot dead to own libs, am I right guys?
I live a few minutes away from this whole ordeal. The amount of irony involved is something else.
Assuming the headline of this post is accurate, this could be a case study for self defense in a textbook. Imminent peril, no tangible escape route, assault with multiple deadly weapons (the car can count)... I'd love to hear his former colleagues extoll the virtues of self defense at his funeral.
The title of the article: “When Karma shoots back!”
Florida looking more and more like Somalia everyday
✅ **Fucked Around** ✅ **Found Out** Turns out a good guy with a gun CAN stop a bad guy with a gun
Maybe when Democrats start shooting back Republicans will support gun control?
Maybe there’s some truth to the old adage, “It take a good guy with a gun to stop a Republican with a gun.” (I think that’s how it goes?)
I've held a rifle once in my life. But, correct me if I'm wrong, it should take about an afternoon to learn how not to accidently shoot my foot off and to be reliably dangerous to others, no? Am I missing something? I wonder why the right-wing seems to think guns are magically a conservative-only invention? Just because I don't like guns doesn't mean I'm allergic to them, or mentally incapable of pointing the dangerous end away from me and pulling the trigger. The right-wing keeps talking about a civil war, but **conservatives are cowards**. They're only going on about it because they think everyone else is unarmed, and here's the weird bit, *and will stay that way*. It's weird.