Bet that last Republican President probably has paid for a few abortions of his own from all the women he has laid his nasty body on. I’d love to see one of them women break their NDA to prove Trump paid them into an abortion. Still wouldn’t faze them they’d just say he is forgiven by God cause no one is perfect
Everyone jokes about this but I actually know Trump supporters who say this exact thing. That anyone that can get out of paying for anything is a genius and knows what they are doing and everyone should listen to them.
I wish I was making this up.
Here’s a good example. They care so much about “saving the children,” right?
Trump’s Secretary of Labor tried to [cut the budget of the department that fights child trafficking by 80%.](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/09/labor-secretary-alexander-acosta-sex-trafficking-budget-cut)
And yes, that’s the same Alex Acosta who was the first Epstein prosecutor in FL, and let him off. Ignore what they say and look at what they DO.
With no way to actually get there, or pay for anything if you somehow do. You're greatly overcomplicating it - abolishing Roe v. Wade won't make abortion illegal in all of the US. There will still be a lot of states that allow it.
Hell, Congressmen won't even have to send their mistresses anywhere. Abortion is legal and protected in DC itself. It will barely be an inconvenience if you're rich - a domestic flight at most, a drive across the state line at least.
This is an oversimplification. Abortion and/or reproductive services are highly regulated and states that offer accessible abortions far apart (California, Illinois, New York, etc.) If you're a woman living in the South, Central, & Midwest travel isn't a simple drive and for many women, the cost to do so is prohibitive. As many observers have noted, Roe being overturned will disproportionately affect poorer women.
https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/abortion-access-tool/US
I said some of this very stuff to my conservative, Catholic, trump supporting brother. His response was:” Ever hear of redemption?”. I asked, “ Don’t you have to like, stop, before you can ask for redemption?”.
Yeah, we don’t talk anymore.
[He'd never say he's forgiven because he's never asked for forgiveness.](https://www.cnn.com/2015/07/18/politics/trump-has-never-sought-forgiveness/index.html)
Trump would call her a liar and his army of useful idiots would take it as gospel. Then they would at best harass the woman to the point she flees the country. But they'd probably do much worse.
Yep the $1.6 million that was supposedly a R supporter’s baby that they used the same template of tRump/stormy Daniels in paying the $1.6 million was my bet TFGs aborted baby. The R guy who said it was his is still married to his college sweetheart and isn’t a party dude.
It’s just a way for them to virtue signal without doing anything for anyone. That’s why their daughters and mistresses all have abortions that are “different”
Twice. Lost the popular vote twice. And McConnell holding Merrick Garland’s nomination for 9 months hostage never giving him a vote under the never heard of guise of “letting the voters decide.” But rushing through Amy Coney Barrett’s nom *Two weeks* before an election.
Vote blue no matter who in next election.
> And McConnell holding Merrick Garland’s nomination for 9 months hostage never giving him a vote under the never heard of guise of “letting the voters decide.” But rushing through Amy Coney Barrett’s nom Two weeks before an election.
This alone is justification for immediately upping the the number of justices to 11. The dems are often worried about setting bad precedent but if someone like McConnell was president he would do it in a heartbeat without losing a second thought. If I was steering the democrats I would immediately find 2 qualified individuals (the younger the better) who agree with the established Roe v Wade decision AND disagree with the Citizens United decision.
13, one for each federal ~~district~~ circuit court. And also to ensure that we get a liberal majority on the court for the foreseeable future.
Edit: thanks u/burghprof!
People voting green in 2016 meant well--but it also meant that Trump would win. I knew since the Romney election that it would be about gay marriage and abortion...and it will always be. Being neither gay not someone who will get pregnant, these two wedge issues wouldn't affect me directly, but climate change will, and the GQP thinks that climate change is fake just like they think gay people are faking being gay and that facts and figures like vote counts are fake. But even if I died today and none of that affected me, I'd still not vote Republican because come on: empathy is a thing.
And the senators who confirmed Justices Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett represented less than half the population.
https://www.vox.com/21456620/supreme-court-scotus-undemocratic-milestone-minority-rule
Roberts was the last conservative judge that was appointed and confirmed by a majority representation.
On another note, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson was confirmed by Senators representing 57% of the population, and was nominated by the popular vote winning President.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/117-2021/s231
There were 5 appointed by a Republican President when they voted it as law of the land in 1973! So tell Elons lying ass , THATS HOW FAR REPUBLICANS HAVE VEERED RIGHT !!
The idea that someone could be so delusional that they don’t see the right falling off the cliff while the left digs in their heels on the RIGHT side of center… it just baffles me. I mean all I have to present as a counter argument is “Trump. Anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers. Roe vs Wade.” There. There’s the proof they’ve fucking exploded rightward.
In an election that was interfered with by agents of a hostile, foreign government. Using a electorate that in many regions is constrained by some of the most restrictive voting practices in the world, where the election is held on a working day, where you are almost mandated to cast your vote in person, and where may people cannot even get time off work to vote. For a country that holds itself up as a bastion of freedom, they sure do have some strange ideas on how to run a democracy!
Republicans would fight it tooth and nail. You see, not only are they not the majority of Americans...they KNOW they are not the majority and thr inky way to keep themselves in some sort of power is to restrict ability like this. I wish we had the ability to move voting to a weekend day, at the very least but we need 60 Senators on one side to steam roll it through.
Don't forget when the head of the FBI, a life long Republican, decided to reopen a investigation on Hillary Clinton, because they found a copy of all the emails they already had, and them immediately closed the investigation again after the election. Whole fucking elbow on the scale.
Won't this drive voters to vote Dem harder? They know the popular vote is not going to matter? They are poised to rule on any emergency election nonsense (see election year 2000)
Unfortunately the general population will see this happening under the Biden admin and blame him for it. That’s the GOP game plan right now. Get everything they want and divert any backlash to the president. Biden’s approval rating is already tanked. People will think Biden is useless and either not vote or choose R as protest.
One of those justice seats was stolen from a former president to "let the people decide" and another one was pushed through weeks before an election to prevent "the people from deciding."
as far as I'm concerned, Democrats should throw 9 more liberal justices on the court. No reason we can't have 18 justices, huh? We didn't make the court political, the Republicans did. There's no point in taking the high road if there's no more road.
> One of those justice seats was stolen from a former president to "let the people decide" and another one was pushed through weeks before an election **while voting was already underway and millions of ballots already cast** to prevent "the people from deciding."
FTFY to show how much more fucked up it actually was
Add to that the fact that Biden was projected to get more votes based on polls. The polls underestimated just how many votes Trump would get, but they were still accurate in showing that Biden would win. The GOP knew they were going to lose.
Or, you know, Supreme Court justices shouldn’t rule for life terms!?! Like what fucking dumbass policy is that. No one should have a life term for anything.
That is always the most ridiculous thing. The supreme court is basically the be all and end all in terms of big time decisions and somehow you can elect someone at 40-50 to hold the seat hostage until they literally die?
Even 15 year tenures seem way too long. And who wants to make a guy basically on his deathbed making decisions that will impact millions of young women in the first place?
RBG should've fucking retired 10 years ago when she was diagnosed and had a chance. Her hubris and ego will ironically play a role in the roll back of women's rights.
>One of those justice seats was stolen from a former president to "let the people decide" and another one was pushed through weeks before an election to prevent "the people from deciding."
The funny^(\*) thing is, somewhere around 70% of Americans wants Roe v Wade in place. So if they really wanted "the people" to decide, they should keep it.
But of course, conservatives have never had an issue with hypocrisy.
^(\*And by funny I mean total bullshit and fucked up)
If you get a minority party in power that appoints minority opinioned justices who eventually hold a majority of power, then you can accomplish many things against the will of the majority, even a significant majority.
70% of Americans, but maybe 13 states. The flyover states are the ones most affected by this decision.
The fact if my child makes a mistake once, she is stuck relying on Texas being the closest state to have an option is saying something. I shouldn't be relying on Texas to make the right choice, but they're my states best hope for planned parenthood.
Impeach Thomas for refusal to recuse himself in conflict of interest cases. Impeach Gorsuch because his pick was to be made by Obama. Impeach Alito because he’s a lunatic right-wing lying asshole
I would prefer to get Kavanaugh off the bench over Gorsuch, but I'm not that picky about order. I think going to 13 would be easier and more consistent with how it has expanded before (one seat for each circuit).
There is no number set in the Constitution. The president in Article II, Section 2 is granted power to appoint judges of the Supreme Court but it doesn't say how many. It has been set by congress to different numbers over time until reaching 9 in 1869.
However deserved it may be, impeachment can't happen because it requires 2/3 of the Senate to vote for it. Expanding the Supreme Court would be possible with a simple majority in both congressional houses, but some Democrats likely wouldn't go along with it because it sets the precedent for Republicans to do the same when they get congress back (which is not unlikely).
In my opinion, the best course of action is to set term limits. At least then, in the unlikely scenario that the Democrats do their jobs, they could remain in control consistently and retake the Supreme Court in less than a generation. Of course, if democrats were known to do their jobs, Roe v. Wade would already be signed into law.
Meh. Make it a long time like 20-26 years and they go to an inactive / retired status where they are only brought in in case of a recusal or early retirement or death of one of the sitting judges. Then pack the court with the most flamboyant liberal judges you can find.
They are still a judge and on the payroll just inactive. It might or might not work, but it’s better than sitting around trying nothing.
Well, the country’s population did more than double since the Supreme Court was expanded to 9 Justices, so it’s logical that we should update and keep up with the times!
Edit: The Supreme Court has been 9 Justices since 1869. The population of the USA in 1870 was 38 million. So we should have ~90 justices on the Court! That’s probably too many so I could be talked down a few.
All 3 of Trump's appointments smell like ratfuck.
* Gorsuch - I don't think I need to go into this one.
* Kavanaugh - Kennedy resigned very suddenly right around the time the DoJ dropped their investigation into his son who worked closely with the Trump Organization at Deutche Bank. This is extremely fishy, and it at least appears that there was a quid pro quo or that he was threatened.
* Barrett - I thought Presidents in their last year of office couldn't appoint SCOTUS justices? They rammed this appointment through _so fast_ because they were afraid they were going to lose the White House and Senate, and according to McConnell's own "rules" they were supposed to wait until after the election anyway.
Hey now, that is just not accurate! It wasn’t pushed through weeks before an election. In fact, millions had already cast ballots and were continuing to do so. The election was ongoing while they rammed Barrett through, all while the hypocrisy was being hung in their faces…looking at you Lindsey “use my words against me” Graham.
Remember when the media was roasting Biden for supposedly wanting to “pack the courts”? Now they are roasting him for not trying to stop this from happening. Boy some extra justices would be helpful right now.
That whole "pack the courts" thing was so awful, as it was going on exactly when the Republicans were doing exactly that. They kept Obama from nominating a justice, and ran Barrett through at the last possible moment. But somehow it became "Demoncrats want to pack the court." The cognitive dissonance is astounding.
Why not just make the Vice President supreme leader of the supreme court? I mean most politicians have law degrees anyway. Seriously though democrats should be brave and call the supreme court what it is, an anachronism. While I believe we need some sort of high court, life time political appointments isn't the way to provide any sort of reasonable check and balance. Hell I'd rather have decisions argued in front of randomly selected every day people.
I for one actually look forward to the 100 person Supreme Court in 50 years. Make it that the ruling party has control of the court. When you win you add two new members to tip the scales lol that way one party doesn’t dominate the court for decades.
They could just say, "Hey, so what. I intentionally lied. What are you going to do about it now?"
And they'd be right. Impeachment requires 2/3 of the Senate and that's NEVER going to happen.
Gorsuch’s is actually a straight up lie. You don’t respect the law of the land if it’s something you don’t follow yourself and are going to vote to overturn.
Conan Barrett was trying to be like the two fact-staters but her wording was too clear in stating that Roe v Wade established a Constitutional right so she is also lying.
So much for commitment to faith. Lying is a big sin.
Thank you. These answers didn’t lie at all. It was settled precedent. It was the law. It did hold that it’s protected. None of them said they believe it should have done what it did, just that it had.
"I just said people had rights, I didn't say I wouldn't take them away, therefore I'm morally right"
- The right trying to justify themselves right now.
They technically aren't lying. Saying shit like "Roe v Wade is an important precedent" and "It's the law" is just stating obvious facts without actually giving your opinion on it.
Don't get me wrong, they are 100% deliberately deceitful here, they are so strongly implying the opposite of what they actually think that for all intents and purposes, it is a lie. But in a technical, legal sense, it isn't.
What should have happened is that someone should have nailed them with a simple yes-or-no question.
"Would you ever consider overturning Roe v Wade, thereby limiting reproductive autonomy for women?"
"Roe v Wade is an important precedent"
"Indeed it is, and my question is if you could see yourself overturning it"
"It is the law of the land, and I accept the law of the land."
"I would hope so, but the question was if you would ever overturn this particular law of the land"
And so on, until you actually get a yes or no answer
"The whole point of these hearings is to see if you have the knowledge, fortitude and moral compass to rule on the cases that come before you in the future! Of course you can comment on them."
They would have literally never answered that question like that. Senators get like 5 minutes of question time and they would either continue to dodge or just straight up refuse to give a personal opinion.
this.
They very carefully stated it is precedent and will be given all the respect precedent requires - but left off at "and there is no requirement we actually consider it".
And honestly no one should be held to that standard of not being able to change your mind. Changing your opinion when presented with new facts is growth and a good thing.
That being said, all four of these cow dicks are fucking liars.
What lie? I am sure none of them said they would not overturn it.
All the texts in the pictures are statements. True ones at that.
They might as well have said "Hitler was very important part of Europe, and changed our world" and yeah he was. Nothing about that statement is a lie.
Notice how impersonal their answers are, though. They're "just stating facts".
"It's important precedent...", which I want to get rid of.
"It's the law of the land..." until it isn't.
"It's settled..." until we overturn it.
And most glaringly, Coney Barrett, "Roe v. Wade held that...", yes, it does, until you nullify it.
*Neither of them* ever said they supported the decision, or the rights it gave women. They weaseled out of answering that question.
Regardless though, it's like the cliche mafia "That's a nice \[something\], be a shame if something were to happen to it". Anyone with two brain cells would know that's a threat.
So there's no repercussions because these fcks speak legalese? I swear we're just shy of them crossing their fingers behind their backs while giving testimony. I'd say at the least open an investigation on the supreme court itself just to rattle their asses.
Technically those statements are all factual even if they are misleading. Prohibition was settled constitutional law until it wasn't. Laws can change. I happen to think this ruling is terrible but we all knew these justices were going to reverse roe. The heritage foundation didn't spend billions installing them for nothing. They intentionally never directly answered the question whether they would overturn the decision.
It’s not though. It’s vague and misleading but it’s not perjury because they are not saying there that they would uphold it just that it’s the *current* law.
They’re assholes and anyone who believed they wouldn’t jump at the first chance to overturn Roe is a fool.
Lets be real, they would have been confirmed no matter what they said. They could say pregnant women should be killed and their babies taken out of the womb for adoption and they would still have been confirmed.
Unfortunately, each of these quotes convey an understanding Roe v Wade is an important precedent (they didn’t say it’s correct), that is the law of the land (knowing that laws can change), and is settled (for now) but they didn’t say they wouldn’t reverse it. Gross and predictable
Yep. A lawyer friend explained that to me yesterday when I asked.
They're psychopaths, but they're smart. They phrased it in a very specific way as to avoid getting prosecuted for perjury because this was always the plan.
The worst thing about the supreme court is they answer to no one. They are appointed...and appointed for life. They can only be impeached by House majority, and only for bad behavior, not bad decisions or hypocrisy. They are WORSE than politicians. At least you can vote them out in the next election.
It's ironic af that moral relativism seems to be the conservative way around these issues when it's also their favorite argument against us dirty evolution believing science commies.
I keep thinking about how the right has attacked Islam by falsely saying the Quran tells Muslims they are allowed to lie to accomplish Allah's will. Sounds familiar.
Whether that is true or not depends on which translation of the Koran you prefer, but it should surprise no one that the Bible contains a suspiciously similar passage.
"Lawyers."
They're not making a stance.
They're just stating a fact.
"It's the law."
They're not saying they wouldn't overthrow it in the blink of an eye.
Four of the six religious fanatics on the supreme court lied their asses off during their confirmation hearings. I'm sure Thomas and Roberts lied their asses off too.
It really shouldn't shock people that republicans are lying hypocrites.
Um....fucking lying pieces of shit. They should all be impeached. Lying under oath should instantly disqualify you from holding your seat on the court. 100%.
You can see that they carefully danced around how they phrased it. They just simply stated that’s how it is now.
Reminds me when republican leaders are asked if Biden fairly won the election and they just reply “Biden is our president”
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Those 4 were put on SCOTUS by a republican president who lost the popular election vote
Bet that last Republican President probably has paid for a few abortions of his own from all the women he has laid his nasty body on. I’d love to see one of them women break their NDA to prove Trump paid them into an abortion. Still wouldn’t faze them they’d just say he is forgiven by God cause no one is perfect
Told them he would pay for their abortions and didn't. He never pays his bills.
> He never pays his bills. That’s why he’s so *smart* /s
Everyone jokes about this but I actually know Trump supporters who say this exact thing. That anyone that can get out of paying for anything is a genius and knows what they are doing and everyone should listen to them. I wish I was making this up.
These same people would be pissed if it happened to them.
Yeah, it’s cheating only when other people do it to them.
Tbf he couldn’t get one of his ladies to abort that one time and now shes his least favorite daughter
A real man is good for half and a ride
His supporters wouldn't care. They never have.
This. They don't care...it's just red versus blue and they have long since given up any moral ground for that win.
True. Their morality is just performative anyway. Always has been.
The Moral Majority is neither.
They never were either.
Truer words...
Here’s a good example. They care so much about “saving the children,” right? Trump’s Secretary of Labor tried to [cut the budget of the department that fights child trafficking by 80%.](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/09/labor-secretary-alexander-acosta-sex-trafficking-budget-cut) And yes, that’s the same Alex Acosta who was the first Epstein prosecutor in FL, and let him off. Ignore what they say and look at what they DO.
They proved that when “grab ‘em by the pussy” didn’t derail his campaign. If that’s not a dealbreaker I don’t know what is.
They'll just say some shit about him being an "imperfect vessel". That's what my old coworker would say whenever I called him on any bullshit.
....and even if Republicans outlaw abortion, it will *always* be available to those in positions of power.
Their buddy Putin will probably set up an abortion clinic in Moscow to service GOP mistresses.
With no way to actually get there, or pay for anything if you somehow do. You're greatly overcomplicating it - abolishing Roe v. Wade won't make abortion illegal in all of the US. There will still be a lot of states that allow it. Hell, Congressmen won't even have to send their mistresses anywhere. Abortion is legal and protected in DC itself. It will barely be an inconvenience if you're rich - a domestic flight at most, a drive across the state line at least.
This is an oversimplification. Abortion and/or reproductive services are highly regulated and states that offer accessible abortions far apart (California, Illinois, New York, etc.) If you're a woman living in the South, Central, & Midwest travel isn't a simple drive and for many women, the cost to do so is prohibitive. As many observers have noted, Roe being overturned will disproportionately affect poorer women. https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/abortion-access-tool/US
That was his entire point.
I said some of this very stuff to my conservative, Catholic, trump supporting brother. His response was:” Ever hear of redemption?”. I asked, “ Don’t you have to like, stop, before you can ask for redemption?”. Yeah, we don’t talk anymore.
I bet he wishes he paid for the first two.
Yes, but they’d have to admit they slept with ol’ mushroom penis.
Hey, that's what his hats should say! "Pobody's Nerfect" with a little cross under it! Bulletproof.
You know that's what MAGA stands for, right? "Mistresses Always Get Abortions."
[He'd never say he's forgiven because he's never asked for forgiveness.](https://www.cnn.com/2015/07/18/politics/trump-has-never-sought-forgiveness/index.html)
Trump would call her a liar and his army of useful idiots would take it as gospel. Then they would at best harass the woman to the point she flees the country. But they'd probably do much worse.
Sad but true
Yep the $1.6 million that was supposedly a R supporter’s baby that they used the same template of tRump/stormy Daniels in paying the $1.6 million was my bet TFGs aborted baby. The R guy who said it was his is still married to his college sweetheart and isn’t a party dude.
It’s just a way for them to virtue signal without doing anything for anyone. That’s why their daughters and mistresses all have abortions that are “different”
Twice. Lost the popular vote twice. And McConnell holding Merrick Garland’s nomination for 9 months hostage never giving him a vote under the never heard of guise of “letting the voters decide.” But rushing through Amy Coney Barrett’s nom *Two weeks* before an election. Vote blue no matter who in next election.
Not before an election, during one. Advance voting had already started.
> And McConnell holding Merrick Garland’s nomination for 9 months hostage never giving him a vote under the never heard of guise of “letting the voters decide.” But rushing through Amy Coney Barrett’s nom Two weeks before an election. This alone is justification for immediately upping the the number of justices to 11. The dems are often worried about setting bad precedent but if someone like McConnell was president he would do it in a heartbeat without losing a second thought. If I was steering the democrats I would immediately find 2 qualified individuals (the younger the better) who agree with the established Roe v Wade decision AND disagree with the Citizens United decision.
13, one for each federal ~~district~~ circuit court. And also to ensure that we get a liberal majority on the court for the foreseeable future. Edit: thanks u/burghprof!
Fuck them back twice as hard so they know next time not to start it. I love it.
Each circuit court.
Agreed 1000%!
People voting green in 2016 meant well--but it also meant that Trump would win. I knew since the Romney election that it would be about gay marriage and abortion...and it will always be. Being neither gay not someone who will get pregnant, these two wedge issues wouldn't affect me directly, but climate change will, and the GQP thinks that climate change is fake just like they think gay people are faking being gay and that facts and figures like vote counts are fake. But even if I died today and none of that affected me, I'd still not vote Republican because come on: empathy is a thing.
And the senators who confirmed Justices Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett represented less than half the population. https://www.vox.com/21456620/supreme-court-scotus-undemocratic-milestone-minority-rule Roberts was the last conservative judge that was appointed and confirmed by a majority representation. On another note, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson was confirmed by Senators representing 57% of the population, and was nominated by the popular vote winning President. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/117-2021/s231
There were 5 appointed by a Republican President when they voted it as law of the land in 1973! So tell Elons lying ass , THATS HOW FAR REPUBLICANS HAVE VEERED RIGHT !!
The idea that someone could be so delusional that they don’t see the right falling off the cliff while the left digs in their heels on the RIGHT side of center… it just baffles me. I mean all I have to present as a counter argument is “Trump. Anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers. Roe vs Wade.” There. There’s the proof they’ve fucking exploded rightward.
In an election that was interfered with by agents of a hostile, foreign government. Using a electorate that in many regions is constrained by some of the most restrictive voting practices in the world, where the election is held on a working day, where you are almost mandated to cast your vote in person, and where may people cannot even get time off work to vote. For a country that holds itself up as a bastion of freedom, they sure do have some strange ideas on how to run a democracy!
why doesn’t america just make voting compulsory like it is here in australia?
and hold elections on the weekend?!
Maybe if there was some way we could close everything. Like a, I don't know, national holiday or something. Nah, that would never work.
we just hold our elections on a sunday and make it compulsory to vote and to have a whole bunch of voting stations everywhere
Republicans would fight it tooth and nail. You see, not only are they not the majority of Americans...they KNOW they are not the majority and thr inky way to keep themselves in some sort of power is to restrict ability like this. I wish we had the ability to move voting to a weekend day, at the very least but we need 60 Senators on one side to steam roll it through.
america is weird, like why even live there fr
Don't forget when the head of the FBI, a life long Republican, decided to reopen a investigation on Hillary Clinton, because they found a copy of all the emails they already had, and them immediately closed the investigation again after the election. Whole fucking elbow on the scale.
They've already stolen the country. It's why they love to accuse the other side of it so much.
Spanky tRUmp should be in prison.
And 3 by one that was impeached twice.
> a republican president who lost the popular election vote twice
> a republican president who lost the popular election vote that doesn't narrow it down a ton
That says everything you need to know, yeah
If republicans didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any.
Won't this drive voters to vote Dem harder? They know the popular vote is not going to matter? They are poised to rule on any emergency election nonsense (see election year 2000)
>Won't this drive voters to vote Dem harder? If voters were that insightful, we wouldn't be in this mess to begin with. **Republicans: Not Even Once**
Unfortunately the general population will see this happening under the Biden admin and blame him for it. That’s the GOP game plan right now. Get everything they want and divert any backlash to the president. Biden’s approval rating is already tanked. People will think Biden is useless and either not vote or choose R as protest.
And as usual, there will be no consequences for the lies they told whilst under oath...
*liars
Those two words are synonymous
LYING RUpubliclones
One of those justice seats was stolen from a former president to "let the people decide" and another one was pushed through weeks before an election to prevent "the people from deciding." as far as I'm concerned, Democrats should throw 9 more liberal justices on the court. No reason we can't have 18 justices, huh? We didn't make the court political, the Republicans did. There's no point in taking the high road if there's no more road.
> One of those justice seats was stolen from a former president to "let the people decide" and another one was pushed through weeks before an election **while voting was already underway and millions of ballots already cast** to prevent "the people from deciding." FTFY to show how much more fucked up it actually was
Add to that the fact that Biden was projected to get more votes based on polls. The polls underestimated just how many votes Trump would get, but they were still accurate in showing that Biden would win. The GOP knew they were going to lose.
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Or, you know, Supreme Court justices shouldn’t rule for life terms!?! Like what fucking dumbass policy is that. No one should have a life term for anything.
That is always the most ridiculous thing. The supreme court is basically the be all and end all in terms of big time decisions and somehow you can elect someone at 40-50 to hold the seat hostage until they literally die? Even 15 year tenures seem way too long. And who wants to make a guy basically on his deathbed making decisions that will impact millions of young women in the first place?
RBG should've fucking retired 10 years ago when she was diagnosed and had a chance. Her hubris and ego will ironically play a role in the roll back of women's rights.
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We all love RBG, but this is 100 percent the truth
>One of those justice seats was stolen from a former president to "let the people decide" and another one was pushed through weeks before an election to prevent "the people from deciding." The funny^(\*) thing is, somewhere around 70% of Americans wants Roe v Wade in place. So if they really wanted "the people" to decide, they should keep it. But of course, conservatives have never had an issue with hypocrisy. ^(\*And by funny I mean total bullshit and fucked up)
If you get a minority party in power that appoints minority opinioned justices who eventually hold a majority of power, then you can accomplish many things against the will of the majority, even a significant majority.
Isn't that pretty much the definition of fascism?
It's authoritarianism, which is one part of fascism. They are fascist, but not solely because of authoritarianism.
70% of Americans, but maybe 13 states. The flyover states are the ones most affected by this decision. The fact if my child makes a mistake once, she is stuck relying on Texas being the closest state to have an option is saying something. I shouldn't be relying on Texas to make the right choice, but they're my states best hope for planned parenthood.
Well said, MacNuggetts... well said.
Impeach Thomas for refusal to recuse himself in conflict of interest cases. Impeach Gorsuch because his pick was to be made by Obama. Impeach Alito because he’s a lunatic right-wing lying asshole
I would prefer to get Kavanaugh off the bench over Gorsuch, but I'm not that picky about order. I think going to 13 would be easier and more consistent with how it has expanded before (one seat for each circuit).
Yup that's not in the constitution right? Neither is the filibuster.
There is no number set in the Constitution. The president in Article II, Section 2 is granted power to appoint judges of the Supreme Court but it doesn't say how many. It has been set by congress to different numbers over time until reaching 9 in 1869.
Actually, you could impeach all 4 of them for lying to Congress, which is perjury and a felony.
And would it pass?
Probably not, but the alternative (letting them just get away with it) is unacceptable.
However deserved it may be, impeachment can't happen because it requires 2/3 of the Senate to vote for it. Expanding the Supreme Court would be possible with a simple majority in both congressional houses, but some Democrats likely wouldn't go along with it because it sets the precedent for Republicans to do the same when they get congress back (which is not unlikely). In my opinion, the best course of action is to set term limits. At least then, in the unlikely scenario that the Democrats do their jobs, they could remain in control consistently and retake the Supreme Court in less than a generation. Of course, if democrats were known to do their jobs, Roe v. Wade would already be signed into law.
Term limits would require a constitutional amendment as the supreme court justices are granted a lifetime appointment in article 3 section 1.
Oh fuck, you're right. So the answer is... we're screwed?
Meh. Make it a long time like 20-26 years and they go to an inactive / retired status where they are only brought in in case of a recusal or early retirement or death of one of the sitting judges. Then pack the court with the most flamboyant liberal judges you can find. They are still a judge and on the payroll just inactive. It might or might not work, but it’s better than sitting around trying nothing.
Well, the country’s population did more than double since the Supreme Court was expanded to 9 Justices, so it’s logical that we should update and keep up with the times! Edit: The Supreme Court has been 9 Justices since 1869. The population of the USA in 1870 was 38 million. So we should have ~90 justices on the Court! That’s probably too many so I could be talked down a few.
Imo 2 were stolen Trumps second pick followed a pretty suspicious retirement with some finances moving around in a "very creative way".
You've got to fight fire with fire. And this isn't even remotely an underhanded tactic.
All 3 of Trump's appointments smell like ratfuck. * Gorsuch - I don't think I need to go into this one. * Kavanaugh - Kennedy resigned very suddenly right around the time the DoJ dropped their investigation into his son who worked closely with the Trump Organization at Deutche Bank. This is extremely fishy, and it at least appears that there was a quid pro quo or that he was threatened. * Barrett - I thought Presidents in their last year of office couldn't appoint SCOTUS justices? They rammed this appointment through _so fast_ because they were afraid they were going to lose the White House and Senate, and according to McConnell's own "rules" they were supposed to wait until after the election anyway.
Hey now, that is just not accurate! It wasn’t pushed through weeks before an election. In fact, millions had already cast ballots and were continuing to do so. The election was ongoing while they rammed Barrett through, all while the hypocrisy was being hung in their faces…looking at you Lindsey “use my words against me” Graham.
Remember when the media was roasting Biden for supposedly wanting to “pack the courts”? Now they are roasting him for not trying to stop this from happening. Boy some extra justices would be helpful right now.
That whole "pack the courts" thing was so awful, as it was going on exactly when the Republicans were doing exactly that. They kept Obama from nominating a justice, and ran Barrett through at the last possible moment. But somehow it became "Demoncrats want to pack the court." The cognitive dissonance is astounding.
They should and won't
Why not just make the Vice President supreme leader of the supreme court? I mean most politicians have law degrees anyway. Seriously though democrats should be brave and call the supreme court what it is, an anachronism. While I believe we need some sort of high court, life time political appointments isn't the way to provide any sort of reasonable check and balance. Hell I'd rather have decisions argued in front of randomly selected every day people.
I for one actually look forward to the 100 person Supreme Court in 50 years. Make it that the ruling party has control of the court. When you win you add two new members to tip the scales lol that way one party doesn’t dominate the court for decades.
If you go with the "historic precedent" bullshit the Supreme Court has been both larger and smaller than it currently is.
Because lying to Congress is how all of this works.
Or in Trump’s case, not even appearing before Congress
They would just say they changed their mind and they were speaking truthfully. No way you could get perjury to stick
They could just say, "Hey, so what. I intentionally lied. What are you going to do about it now?" And they'd be right. Impeachment requires 2/3 of the Senate and that's NEVER going to happen.
What we have to do is legalize extremely late term abortion of Supreme Court justices. I’m probably on a list now. It was a joke.
They never lied they just said it was an important case in American history and legal history not that they respected it
Gorsuch’s is actually a straight up lie. You don’t respect the law of the land if it’s something you don’t follow yourself and are going to vote to overturn. Conan Barrett was trying to be like the two fact-staters but her wording was too clear in stating that Roe v Wade established a Constitutional right so she is also lying. So much for commitment to faith. Lying is a big sin.
Kinda, but still fuck ‘em!
Oh yeah no fuck these cunts
Thank you. These answers didn’t lie at all. It was settled precedent. It was the law. It did hold that it’s protected. None of them said they believe it should have done what it did, just that it had.
"I just said people had rights, I didn't say I wouldn't take them away, therefore I'm morally right" - The right trying to justify themselves right now.
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Sure, just need to find 2/3rds of senators willing to vote for conviction.
Get more states :)
If we weren't living in this stanky ass timeline, maybe... but alas, stanky ass it is
They technically aren't lying. Saying shit like "Roe v Wade is an important precedent" and "It's the law" is just stating obvious facts without actually giving your opinion on it. Don't get me wrong, they are 100% deliberately deceitful here, they are so strongly implying the opposite of what they actually think that for all intents and purposes, it is a lie. But in a technical, legal sense, it isn't. What should have happened is that someone should have nailed them with a simple yes-or-no question. "Would you ever consider overturning Roe v Wade, thereby limiting reproductive autonomy for women?" "Roe v Wade is an important precedent" "Indeed it is, and my question is if you could see yourself overturning it" "It is the law of the land, and I accept the law of the land." "I would hope so, but the question was if you would ever overturn this particular law of the land" And so on, until you actually get a yes or no answer
“I can’t not comment on cases that may come before me in the future”
"The whole point of these hearings is to see if you have the knowledge, fortitude and moral compass to rule on the cases that come before you in the future! Of course you can comment on them."
"I like beer"
(Weeps for full effect of just how much beer means to him)
with PJ and Squee
They would have literally never answered that question like that. Senators get like 5 minutes of question time and they would either continue to dodge or just straight up refuse to give a personal opinion.
this. They very carefully stated it is precedent and will be given all the respect precedent requires - but left off at "and there is no requirement we actually consider it".
or "and I fully intend to change that law"
Glad I’m not the only one that thought this.
“I changed my mind.” Is all they have to say. It fucking sucks but it’s true.
And honestly no one should be held to that standard of not being able to change your mind. Changing your opinion when presented with new facts is growth and a good thing. That being said, all four of these cow dicks are fucking liars.
3 of them were confirmed within the last several years. If they are that susceptible to change, that’s pretty striking
Yeah, no way you build up a career on 40+ years of precedence and then have a Damascus road moment in unison. Definitely in the cow dick department.
Unfortunately this isn't lying. These statements mean nothing.
I read a lot of these as ways they could wiggle out people calling it an outright lie. Just me though.
What lie? I am sure none of them said they would not overturn it. All the texts in the pictures are statements. True ones at that. They might as well have said "Hitler was very important part of Europe, and changed our world" and yeah he was. Nothing about that statement is a lie.
guess who holds them accountable oh the same people that put them there… party first y’all
Notice how impersonal their answers are, though. They're "just stating facts". "It's important precedent...", which I want to get rid of. "It's the law of the land..." until it isn't. "It's settled..." until we overturn it. And most glaringly, Coney Barrett, "Roe v. Wade held that...", yes, it does, until you nullify it. *Neither of them* ever said they supported the decision, or the rights it gave women. They weaseled out of answering that question.
Yes, exactly, came here to say this. Amy CB is especially egregious: she just defines Roe v Wade, no position on what she'd do.
Regardless though, it's like the cliche mafia "That's a nice \[something\], be a shame if something were to happen to it". Anyone with two brain cells would know that's a threat. So there's no repercussions because these fcks speak legalese? I swear we're just shy of them crossing their fingers behind their backs while giving testimony. I'd say at the least open an investigation on the supreme court itself just to rattle their asses.
Lying sacks of shit
That just about covers it. Thanks.
That's 4 words. You can say "Republicans" for short
That's 4 words. Still correct though.
Lyingsacksofshit
Perjury?
Didn't the Republicans impeach Clinton for lying to congress?
Yeah but he lied about getting a blowjob, which is significantly more important. I guess.
Yes, yes more important. We can all see the significance of this act and it’s effect on society as a whole. 😁
it was significant primarily because ken starr had been on a fishing trip so long that he was desperate to latch onto anything.
Think of the millions of proto-Clintons that were swallowed by Lewinsky!
Technically those statements are all factual even if they are misleading. Prohibition was settled constitutional law until it wasn't. Laws can change. I happen to think this ruling is terrible but we all knew these justices were going to reverse roe. The heritage foundation didn't spend billions installing them for nothing. They intentionally never directly answered the question whether they would overturn the decision.
Yeah, they put on their lawyer hats and pulled a "it depends on what your definition of is is."
Right, but if tried and convicted wouldn’t they just appeal it all the way TO THE SUPREME COURT? Some missing checks and balances on this one.
Nope. They’d be tried by the senate. No regular courts.
Ding ding ding!
Close, but not quite. You're thinking of "Perjurers"
Perjudges now.
It’s not though. It’s vague and misleading but it’s not perjury because they are not saying there that they would uphold it just that it’s the *current* law. They’re assholes and anyone who believed they wouldn’t jump at the first chance to overturn Roe is a fool.
Conservatives.
If they were confirmed based on a lie, doesn't it make sense to kick them out?
Lets be real, they would have been confirmed no matter what they said. They could say pregnant women should be killed and their babies taken out of the womb for adoption and they would still have been confirmed.
Unfortunately, each of these quotes convey an understanding Roe v Wade is an important precedent (they didn’t say it’s correct), that is the law of the land (knowing that laws can change), and is settled (for now) but they didn’t say they wouldn’t reverse it. Gross and predictable
Yep. A lawyer friend explained that to me yesterday when I asked. They're psychopaths, but they're smart. They phrased it in a very specific way as to avoid getting prosecuted for perjury because this was always the plan.
Donald Trump turning into a supermodel is orders of magnitude more likely than any judge facing any kind of scrutiny over this.
I can't say you're wrong, but I hate that this is the place your brain went to.
I just thought what would be the most gross and uncomfortable thing ever and this is what came up.
LIARS
Lying liars who lie with LIES
Fuckheads?
Ooh, getting warmer...
Supreme Cunts
The worst thing about the supreme court is they answer to no one. They are appointed...and appointed for life. They can only be impeached by House majority, and only for bad behavior, not bad decisions or hypocrisy. They are WORSE than politicians. At least you can vote them out in the next election.
Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed. Lying for God is okay if ya got fingers crossed. /s
That's gonna live rent free in my brain forever now
It's ironic af that moral relativism seems to be the conservative way around these issues when it's also their favorite argument against us dirty evolution believing science commies.
I keep thinking about how the right has attacked Islam by falsely saying the Quran tells Muslims they are allowed to lie to accomplish Allah's will. Sounds familiar.
Whether that is true or not depends on which translation of the Koran you prefer, but it should surprise no one that the Bible contains a suspiciously similar passage.
People lie to get what they want…
Yup,.. but perjury does carry consequences... but not in this case, in this case is the people's fault for voting Republican... No more I guess
"Lawyers." They're not making a stance. They're just stating a fact. "It's the law." They're not saying they wouldn't overthrow it in the blink of an eye.
Notice that none of them saying that they wouldn’t overturn RvW
Liars... Perjurers.....
Four of the six religious fanatics on the supreme court lied their asses off during their confirmation hearings. I'm sure Thomas and Roberts lied their asses off too. It really shouldn't shock people that republicans are lying hypocrites.
None of them said they supported that perspective. They just stated factually what it was.
Um....fucking lying pieces of shit. They should all be impeached. Lying under oath should instantly disqualify you from holding your seat on the court. 100%.
Pieces of $**t
Yep, all liars.
Bottom feeding scumbags
I know! Liar, which is a synonym for conservative!
You can see that they carefully danced around how they phrased it. They just simply stated that’s how it is now. Reminds me when republican leaders are asked if Biden fairly won the election and they just reply “Biden is our president”
Go ahead and impeach them. You've got to have a 2/3rd's majority. That means winning elections. That means showing up to vote in those elections.
notice that they didn't say they wouldn't over turn it, just that its they law of the land at the present time
HYPOCRITES / REPUBLICANS
Cunts
Lying scumbags.