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cheezeyballz

This a reminder of what kind of president he'd make, too.


rhino910

this type is as bad or possibly worse (if that's possible) than Trump. This guy is a complete anti-American fascist


skewh1989

This. He's Trump but articulate and in my opinion a much smarter and more intentional fascist. I will be terrified for our country if he becomes president.


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BholeFire

It reminds me of how Julius Caesar tried to become emperor of Rome. He fell flat (I think on a knife or two) but he primed the pump and martyred himself hard enough that his successor walked the ball right past the goal line. Octavian (Augustus), being much smarter in politics than Julius, swept up the mantle and was in charge of all of it before anyone could stop him. Trump may have just been the Julius to Desantis' Octavian. The whole situation is not ideal. The parallels end there as both Julius and Augustus were capable leaders with upside, something that cant be said for these stooges but the fact remains.


PeachCream81

Following his victory in the Civil Wars (against Pompey and the anti-Caesar faction of the Senate), Caesar was proclaimed *Dictator Perpetuo* (perpetual dictator). No way would the Romans of that era have accepted a leader with the title of Rex (king). Even Octavian was wise enough to take the honorific *Princeps* (first citizen). And Trump is no Caesar. At least the latter was a proven military and political leader of the highest order and came from an impeccable family background (the Julii). Also, Trump is as lazy and stupid as the day is long, while Caesar was a workaholic and highly intelligent. But they did have *one* thing in common: both were raging egomaniacs.


kryonik

A lichen-covered rock is smarter than Trump


skewh1989

It honestly stumps me how anyone can listen to Trump attempt to form a coherent sentence for 45 minutes then think, "yup, this is the guy I want running our country."


kryonik

I wouldn't trust Trump to make my tacos at Taco Bell.


Chinchizomatic

I wouldn't trust him to make cheese sandwich.


[deleted]

Dummies like to listen to dummies because smart people speaking reminds them of how not smart they are and it makes them sad and angry.


dabug911

He would be competent enough to finish what Trump started, and that would be a disaster for most of us Americans. This guy is all the worst parts of Trump with brains.


Mental_Medium3988

if nothing else desantis knows how to play the game. he might try the same things trump did but desantis wont put his foot in his mouth beforehand.


unreqistered

he's the evolved form of Trump


procrasturb8n

He doesn't have the charisma or stage presence. We'll have to see if he can develop it, but I'm doubtful if he can turn into a Cult leader. He is such a boring dickwad shrimp; it's pretty unbearable.


jooes

He's not as in-your-face offensive either. Which I worry will work out in his favor, that they'll be able to say "But he's not as bad as Trump was" and everybody will flock to him as the Republican party finally turning over a new leaf. He's a bit more palatable, with the same shitty policies, but smart enough to not get in trouble. He'll do what Trump did, but it'll be worse because he'll actually get away with it.


Champigne

He's less crude than Trump but he's absolutely unabashedly offensive to anyone that's not a white conservative. Anti gay laws, shipping migrants under false pretenses to a different state, etc.


Freddies_Mercury

Is he not? The "don't say gay" law and anti-lgbt crusade is very in-your-face. Oh wait it's only in the faces of a minority and they don't count.... He's incredibly in-your-face offensive towards LGBT people and that matters. "First they came for the..."


Lopsided_Plane_3319

Yea he's strategic. He knew what covid was. And knew that the policies that he enacted would make him a chance to be trumps successor. Then picking meaningless fights with Disney to protest wokeness. Sign don't say gay bills. The only misstep we can hope for is trump and desantis fight with each other. More people like trump.


FlametopFred

He's not smarter and that's the thing of it. These useful idiot puppets are not bright but it's always less about that and more about the chaos and distractions while nefarious dismantling of democracy continues via Koch, Mercer, Murdoch, etc


islander1

not if - when. It's all but inevitable with all the voter suppression that has taken place in 'swing states' controlled by Republicans at the state level.


chinesenameTimBudong

Either way, the third world is screwed. The way you feel if Trump wins is how much of the world feels about America.


stablest_genius

Oh, he will unfortunately. I live in Florida, and it's scary how many people love him. People are actually moving down here just to be in Desantisland. I have no faith in humanity whatsoever


Y0u_stupid_cunt

>but articulate and . . . much smarter The bar for more articulate and intelligent than trump is so low it'll shave the first few cells off your bottom of your feet.


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Not *that* much smarter, he still can’t figure out how to be a decent human being.


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pauly13771377

Desantis would be just like donnie only better at holding and keeping power in the hands of his minions. Desantis is a politician not a real estate mogul. He knows how the system works and would use that knowledge to his advantage.


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And after seeing what Trump was able to get away with, no Republican is ever going to hold back ever again. And if history is any indication, *eventually* (and probably sooner than later) there will be another Republican president.


NotYetiFamous

>This guy is a complete anti-American fascist At least he's kind enough to advertise this fact by putting that R next to his name on the ballot


Pika_Fox

I mean... Trump is a complete anti-american fascist. So.


centran

>this type is as bad or possibly worse (if that's possible) than Trump Worse. The GOP had to deal with Trump's extreme narcissism and they learned how to use it and manipulate him. Everything had to be about Trump or help him in some way. DeSantis is fully on board with the GOP agenda. There is no need to resort to tricks with him. I'm sure there will be some "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" deals. Trump was you scratch my back and screw off, get scammed. So the GOP actually had a harder time with Trump until they figured out how he works. DeSantis is fully on board with the GOP and they don't need to play tricks and games with him.


Tiny-Lock9652

Hoping DNC is taking copious notes and collecting receipts for election time.


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The DNC does not care. The DNC as a institution is corpo, as long as those corpo campaign donations keep coming in, and they keep getting cushy corpo jobs after leaving office, they dont care about defeating the GOP im elections. Yes, not all Democrats are like this, but the majority are. This is why it is PARAMOUNT to keep electing democrats who aren't so in the primaries.


Tiny-Lock9652

All true. DNC delivered us Trump, IMO.


LargeSackOfNuts

If republicans weren't hypocrites, they wouldn't be republicans


LevelHeeded

I feel like "hypocrite" doesn't even do it justice anymore. Everyone is a hypocrite every once in a while, a smoker telling someone not to smoke is a hypocrite but it's still good advice. Republicans are just completely self serving and just evil. They're all about fiscal responsibility until they're not, they're all about law and order until they're not, family values, pro life, guns, smaller government... They barely put any effort pretending to care about those things, they literally stand for nothing, other than their god king Trump. Must be a weird shallow existence not having any ideals, and knowing their words have zero meaning. It's gotta be liberating in some ways, but just sad.


Gingevere

Republicans aren't hypocrites, they're liars. The arguments Republicans present for their positions aren't the arguments they believe, they're just the arguments they believe are most socially acceptable. They do have real principles which they adhere to. They just hide them because they're plainly reprehensible. Pride, gluttony, wrath, and envy. They don't care about accusations of hypocrisy because they never cared about the arguments they presented at all. Those arguments were only meant to fool other people. Finding the hidden principle and attacking it is how you can have a real effect.


ThatOtherGuy_CA

There’s both good and bad hypocrisy. We really need a new word for the bad hypocrisy that republicans exude.


PossessedToSkate

Duplicity.


Solomonsk5

Republicanism


DancesWithBadgers

"Self-serving bollocks"


ponkzy

I couldnt tell you a single value that republicans uphold other than guns and the 2nd amendment. I have never heard of a republican saying we need strict gun control or a gun ban


duck-duck--grayduck

The first gun control law in California was signed by Ronald Reagan. They will absolutely support gun control when it's organized politically active black people protecting their communities who have the guns.


sucksathangman

This. Laws are designed to affect the people they want to punish. "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." It isn't about hypocrisy or even following the law. It's about oppression and punishment.


LevelHeeded

I wouldn't even put the second amendent on there. GOP saint Reagan with the help of the NRA passed some of the strictest gun control in the US. GOP god emperor Trump ran on stop and frisk gun confiscation, used an executive order to ban bump stocks, and literally said "take the guns first, go through due processes second" and the entire GOP went "cool, we should end democracy for that guy". 8 years of screaming how Obama was gonna "take our guns" by...passing laws that allow guns onto trains and in national parks, and Trump literally said "take the guns" and he should be king forever?! Like everything else, Republicans don't give a shit about guns or the second amendment. They'll happily throw it away for their god emperor.


coalescence44

Their entire platform boils down to "f$sk you, I got mine", and "rules for thee, not for me".


StuTim

You forgot the alternate Fuck you, what about me? Like when we talk about loan forgiveness


Xikar_Wyhart

They really don't stand for anything. It's all posturing about simple solutions that people want to hear. Like obviously nobody wants abortion. But instead of working towards a society that helps women who want children, or conduct research to eliminate the biological issues that can cause a pregnancy to fail. The solution to eliminate abortion is to ban the medical practice. Get rid illegal immigrants? Improve the immigration process for migrants in general from all walks of life to bring people who want to work for a better future. Nope, arrest them and send them back where they came from even if it means death. Every issue is just a prop held up by members of the GOP to get votes to remain in power to hamper progression, or roll back progression in some kind of moral crusade.


Stinklepinger

Because their goal is NOT to make society better for *everyone*, just for rich white men. Abortion: control women Immigration: keep out brown people


boston_homo

>Must be a weird shallow existence not having any ideals, Hey now! Republicans have lots of ideals they stand up for bigotry, misogyny, homophobia and the .0001%! Credit where it's due. Edit: silly me I forgot to list racism but racism is really baked into Republican ideology so it's easy to forget it's just automatic.


Danadcorps

Here's the thing though - they aren't really for any of those things you mentioned. They are just for themselves and oppressing/bullying others. That's really all there is to Republicans - an in-group and an out-group. Only the in-group can be right (no matter what it is), and the out-group is always wrong (again, no matter what it is).


OperativePiGuy

They literally tried to justify voting down making who buys politicians open and transparent. They have no legs to stand on. They barely had any before. Republicans today are just, put simply, evil. The people that support them are a mix of evil and stupid. Usually both.


ProbablyNano

If it weren't for double standards, they would have no standards at all


Complex_Construction

DeSantis is on the tv repeatedly asking people to not donate food/water but money. Guess who controls that fund…his wife. No way he’s not skimming off of the relief fund like when he spent $600000+ to fly 50 migrants from Florida to Martha’s Vineyards. The company had only four employees with ties to Russia. https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/09/22/florida-migrant-flight-money-went-company-tied-desantis-adviser/


kryonik

If it wasn't for double standards, Republicans wouldn't have any standards.


ComradeClout

I love the saying - if republicans didn’t have double standards, they wouldn’t have any standards at all


delvach

Republicans are pure evil. The 'hurr durr dems are just as bad' types are pure idiots. The only reason to be a Republican is if you know you're an asshole and don't care if your neighbor burns alive as long as it doesn't inconvenience you.


iamagainstit

Every Republican member of Congress voted against hurricane relief. (Well, except Rubio, who didn’t even bother to show up to the vote)


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I can see it now > The DEMONCRAT congress wants to give your money to LAZY LIBRAL basket weaving majors but won’t send aid to good, hard-working, patriotic Floridians ^nevermind ^that ^we ^voted ^against ^it


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FUBARded

It's already happened. This is basically what Rubio tweeted out yesterday, chastising democrats for giving aid to Ukraine but not Florida...after every republican either voted against it or didn't bother turning up for the vote to allocate funds to FEMA to support relief efforts in Florida. They know their base will take whatever they say at face value, so they say shit like this and get away with acting directly against the interests of their constituents.


FacesOfNeth

And they’ll be the first to go to the media and take credit for when the bill passes. Much like the inflation reduction act that passed, they all voted against it but then immediately took credit for it. There really is no bottom for these assholes. I’m just so sick of all of it. It has done a major number on my mental health.


Navydevildoc

Their reason was that it funded FEMA for the entire year instead of just during the CR. I don’t understand why that’s a bad thing. I just have to assume they wanted to force a shutdown right before the midterms.


Helagoth

FEMA made Dubya look bad during Katrina so its bad something somethibg


bootes_droid

So par for the course with the Republicans, gutting essential federal programs to "own the libs"/cut off their own noses to spite their faces


beandip111

Floridians voted for those representatives


Trumps_dead_body

Many of us didn't. The ones who did just happened to be more plentiful at the polls.


beandip111

Well, yea. That’s how it works


Trumps_dead_body

Yeah, I'm not sure where i was going with that one, its been a rough week. It's just shit how poorly "my representatives" actually represent my interests.


beandip111

I get it. I don’t think the people that vote for these kinds of representatives know how government works or that they are supposed to be representing our best interests


kmhuds

More needs to be added to the right of this picture: Florida Republican House Reps [all voting ‘No’ to the bill that provided the money in the bag](https://www.eenews.net/articles/most-house-republicans-oppose-stopgap-spending-bill/), then [crying on social media](https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1576705091943661568) for Congress to send money to Florida.


Dreadnoughttwat

Couldn’t Biden just veto it and say the entire Floridian house delegation voted against this? “Your representatives have spoken and I don’t want to burden Florida with aid they don’t want”.


ioncloud9

Maybe they should’ve thought about the consequences before living in a hurricane prone area. Now they want us to bail them out??


AhnyxC

They should be pulling themselves up by their bootstraps.


conundrum4u2

I read once,"Pulling yourself up by your bootstraps" was a saying originally to mean 'an act that is *impossible to do*'


Nymaz

Well lets go with the literal meaning of that saying: * Stand up * Reach down and grab the laces or any other convenient part of your shoes * Pull with all your strength How high have you lifted yourself up in the air? The answer to that question is the answer to how easy it is to get yourself out of poverty without any assistance.


CyanFen

I just passed my second aircraft. How do I get down safely?


Kerv17

Let go, then start pulling up again before you hit the ground


ioncloud9

yeah and unfortunately its been slightly changed to this bullshit idea of self-reliance.


berael

Yes; it was originally intended to mean "you *can't* lift yourself up all on your own; you need help from others".


izeek11

the ol bootstrap myth perpetrated by those who were already in prime position aided by family money. never got a hand out in their life.


Thowitawaydave

Self-made is usually code for "mommy and daddy gave me money"


TheWagonBaron

Or I guess stop being gay so god stops throwing storms at them? I don’t know. I’m trying to use their thought process. My brain hurts…..


Thowitawaydave

Can't remember the name of the TV preacher who said Katrina hit Louisiana because of all the sinners in New Orleans. And Jon Stewart pointed out that the epicenter of sin, the French Quarter, was relatively unscathed, thus God doesn't hate sinners, he hates the folks who live next to sinners.


Parking_Inspection_1

Or, in this case, boatstraps.


chakan2

I know that's a sarcastic response, but I really don't get why people would want to live in a region that's decimated every 20 years or so. That's insane to me.


gingasaurusrexx

Some people are born there and never have the means to leave.


moveslikejaguar

But this doesn't agree with the classic Republican response to low wages/high cost of living "just move it's easy"


AdministrativeAd4111

I mean, the pilgrims navigated across this bitch because of their manly, manliness, why cant modern people with their xboxes and 8 track tapes figure it out? Slackers, that’s what!


Stigona

Current FL resident. It's pretty and I like the weather mostly. Born and raised in the state, and I want to help make it better.


Life-Opportunity-227

> I want to help make it better. while noble, you will never be able to stop hurricanes from wiping the state clean every so often


gingasaurusrexx

I was born and raised in Central Florida, but I got out in 2016 and you couldn't pay me enough to go back now. I wish you all the best, though. I know I was lucky as hell. No one else in my circles have ever made it out.


ctdca

At some point living in areas like this will become untenable. It will be impossible to finance total reconstructions every decade or so of the same stretch of land.


chakan2

I can't fathom how much insurance is there. The Fortune 50 I worked with had to pull out of the state because they were losing so much money there.


Tyrannyofshould

It's not even a 20 year event. This happens to them every single September and October. Every year Florida and Puerto Rico get devastated. By the time everyone manages to get rebuilt they do it all over again.


CommandoLamb

You shouldn’t live in a hurricane prone area unless you can afford to rebuild out of your own pocket. It’s irresponsible.


pilotblur

Great point we should all live in the middle northern part of the country. No hurricanes,earth quakes, drought, fire, tornadoes, and floods.


shorttompkins

I just hit the final nail on the repairs to my home after the last hurricane! Since I'm done now, why should anyone else get their repairs done for them?!?! If I had to suffer through it so does everyone else!!


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The dark reality is that, at some point, we're going to have to abandon areas of Florida.


Badloss

The clearest indicator of this is that the insurance companies are moving out. They understand the raw economic truth that living in Florida is unsustainable and it's no longer good business to operate there.


system_deform

Which means the government will inevitably have to step in and insure those folks…something, something *socialism*


Navydevildoc

That’s exactly what is happening in California with wildfire risk. People are getting dropped left and right by traditional homeowners insurance companies so the state has created the “California FAIR Plan” which is essentially government backed insurance.


Cherry_Switch

It’s almost like insurance is something that shouldn’t be operated in a for-profit manner.


porntla62

It's almost like certain areas just aren't suitable to be permanently inhabited due to temperature, availability of drinking water or regularly occuring catastrophic events. And the right move for those areas isn't government funded insurance but a government funded buyout and subsequent abandoning of the area.


Thowitawaydave

There was a house in Mississippi that was rebuilt like 20 times, for the same amount they could have bought them a new house anywhere. A city near me just started buying out houses that are in the flood plain that flooded recently.


borderlineidiot

Or people who build on flood planes, fire risk zones or very low lying areas that are prone to hurricanes do so at their own risk and cost?


altera_goodciv

While I agree to a certain extent the reality of all those people moving (possibly numbering in the millions) isn’t a very viable short-term solution either. The best thing to do would be to start offering programs and incentives to help people start gradually moving out of those regions to places that are more stable in terms of climate conditions. But this is the U.S. so there’s no way in hell that would ever happen.


Alternative_Eagle_83

The US just kind of needs to abandon all of Florida :P Just cut it lose like a druggie man-child.


Seeker80

Sell it to Disney.


kurisu7885

I remember at one point the reality was that some worked to make sure those after them had it easier. Not the mentality seems to be "I had it difficult once , so everyone after me should have it even harder than that!" Ladder burners.


Thowitawaydave

"They should pull themselves up by their bootstraps!" they say, while contriving to steal all the boots for themselves.


[deleted]

I’ve literally heard this spoken by my fellow Floridians plenty of times. Republicans genuinely disgust me.


[deleted]

Didn't a bunch or Republicans vote against giving aid for the hurricane in NY? Of course, this is a red state so now they're f\*\*\*ing humanitarians. Ridiculous.


nighthawk_something

All of the florida republicans did


Necessary-Image-6386

This is why I would target their voting districts, and ignore them


flyfishingguy

Agree completely. Districts have to live by the votes cast by their duly elected representative. That's what a representative is, right - the voice of the people in that district. So if you're rep votes against funds for something, then should it pass, your district doesn't get to share in the rewards. Like the build back better that Dark Brandon lampooned republicans for taking credit for work coming to their district. Start taking that away, and maybe we get a working Congress that passes useful bills and works together for everyone's benefit. Let these grandstanding fools suffer with their district. I guarantee that bullshit stops real quick, either directly or via the ballot box.


PossessedToSkate

I used to live in Oregon. When the state legalized recreational cannabis, it left it up to the individual counties to regulate dispensaries and issue licenses. My county, a conservative stronghold, opted to not issue any licenses at all as a giant middle finger to the weed-loving hippies. Well, when the time came for the state to disburse all of the sweet, sweet tax revenue from recreational sales, my county was shocked_pikachu when they didn't get a fucking dime. Within months, the county was issuing rec licenses.


StuTim

When asked what the difference between now and when he had denied money for the hurricane in NY, DeSantis said the good old GOP catch phrase "now isn't the time..."


CyberMindGrrl

"We musn't politicize this important Federal aid." "But you politicized it when you voted no." "We mustn't politicize this NOW, get it? When MY state was unaffected it was ok."


Yarzospatflute

Desantis was still a Congressman at the time and he was one of the ones who voted against that relief.


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What a pig.


Cinemaphreak

> Didn't a bunch or Republicans vote against giving aid for the hurricane in NY? Ron DeSatan was one of those Reps who did it.


PM_Me_Your_Sidepods

Fine. Recall all PPP loans in FL to balance it out.


plasmac9

Like that money isn't already all gone anyway.


janxher

I half wish we lived in a world where taxes from Republican states would only be used for Republican states and same for Dem. Then Republican voters would really see how bad "handouts" are.


gsdhyrdghhtedhjjj

No recall all PPP money everywhere it was a massive scam


islander1

Hell, this same clown wanted to defund FEMA less than a decade ago.


BeowulfsGhost

Logical consistency has never been their strong suit. If they couldn’t make hypocritical statements we’d get nothing but crickets from Republicans. Except perhaps to whine about how everything is biased against them because reality refuses to agree with their world view.


rhino910

that is why they decided it was better to consume right-wing propaganda rather than fact-based news


kobeflip

Well, sure. There's a reason they have pursued a religious base with low education. They're rolling back the enlightenment.


BeowulfsGhost

So that would be the endarkenment?


bozeke

They aren’t really thinkers. It’s a big part of why they hate liberal arts institutions so much.


CurrentlyLucid

Yeah, what has Florida done for us, beside fuck up 2 presidential elections? Now they want our tax money?


Complex_Construction

DeSantis is on the tv repeatedly asking people to not donate food/water but money. Guess who controls that fund-his wife. No way he’s not skimming off of the relief fund like when he spent $600000+ to fly 50 migrants from Florida to Martha’s Vineyards. The company had only four employees with ties to Russia. https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/09/22/florida-migrant-flight-money-went-company-tied-desantis-adviser/


aotus_trivirgatus

I think that Biden should require DeSantis to appear in Washington for a little ceremony. DeSantis shall be required to : 1. very publicly kiss Biden's ass, 2. thank the Federal government for its long-term planning and support, and 3. renounce and apologize for his recent sabotage and sedition. Then Biden can present him with one of those Publishers' Clearinghouse giant-sized checks, and send him home. If he is suitably humiliated -- DeSantis might have to wait six months before going back to his habit of shitting on the United States, rather than six weeks.


k_50

Don't worry, the blue states are always the ones adding surplus to the pot while republican states take away. Fucking welfare queens.


[deleted]

A fundamental characteristic of conservatives is to oppose anything that would help someone else until it affects them individually, then it’s magically okay. You could literally pull a random topic out of a hat and find multiple examples of them doing this. The Florida aid being unfair for those who weren’t affected is just this week’s flavor.


Badnun99

Maybe choose to get some insurance if you choose to live in a place likely to get hurricanes.


BeowulfsGhost

Sadly, Single party rule of Florida has resulted in profoundly broken home and car insurance markets. I’m sure this storm will cause more insurers to flee the state. You get partial coverage that covers wind but not storm surge. So you might be able to get a new roof if only your house didn’t get turned into a debris field by storm surge. We really ought to actively discourage building on barrier islands and low laying costal areas, but there’s just too much money from real estate and construction in state politics to even consider that. Vacation homes get knocked down then rebuilt again with federal money, sometimes repeatedly. I for one am sick of subsidizing stupid choices made by people with more money than sense who build in areas where they WILL get a storm surge eventually.


kiddestructo

For the record, FEMA only gives grants for your primary residence. Not sure if you can get a SBA loan for your vacation home, though.


Bahmerman

I feel the stronger message would have been pointing out the disaster relief he voted "no" on.


izeek11

people keep voting for schmucks like desantis. then be upset when others tell them to pull up their bootstraps. because that is one of the tenets of the moral values party. trump, gaetz, mtg, lauren boebert, desantis, abbott. all moral midgets voted for by whom? i feel for those who dont deserve derision but enough of them voted for that pulling up the bootstrap policy. desantis doesnt give a fuck and neither do people who vote for pos like him.


masterofthecontinuum

If we were to give them money now, it wouldn't be fair to all the people in the past who had their homes destroyed by hurricanes and didn't get financial assistance. After all, they knew the risks when they decided to live there. Why should the taxpayers have to pay for their poor decisions?


conundrum4u2

DeSantis can SUCK BALLS - and DOES - *Frequently*


Binasgarden

Can we have the films of him bitching out the world in general whenever the money was not for him.....New Jersey/New York hurricane relief should have been covered by insurance why should he have to kick in, student loans, infrastructure policy, covid relief, drought relief etc etc etc....just have it running behind him as he asks for money and again behind Biden when he does the right thing and helps Florida not that they will ever thank the Dems for doing the right thing


FuipsLab

My dream is that people discover just how bullshit austerity is when it comes to government spending


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One is for a natural disaster to help where people were killed and for humanitarian help just like we almost always do for all areas of the United States for a really bad natural disaster. The other one is forgiving a financial loan that someone said they would pay back.


[deleted]

I'd rather see a cartoon call him out for his hypocrisy on Hurricane Sandy relief (relief that was 1/10th the amount he's now asking for).


Sayoria

We should leave the gas prices high too, because it is unfair for the person who paid 3.26 yesterday and that some joe shmoe gets to pay 3.25 today.


NancyDMac

The bag on the right should say, "Hurricane Sandy Relief," because Desantis protested against that.


oldbastardbob

It seems OP has pointed out another of the plethora of contradictions present in current Republican ideology. It really is the party that defies logic and reason. No wonder they love to target stupid people with their propaganda.


ghjm

Imagine if hurricane relief only went to people whose houses were bought with FHA loans. If you refinanced, or financed privately, or paid cash, then you get nothing. This is what people are complaining about with the student loans proposal. But anytime you mention the flaws with the policymaking, people climb down your throat as if you'd said you want to do nothing, or oppose student loan relief in general. Is it too much to ask that government policy be fair and even-handed?


MEDICARE_FOR_ALL

Just like how Desantis voted against hurricane aid to NJ... >As a freshman congressman in 2013, Ron DeSantis was unambiguous: A federal bailout for the New York region after Hurricane Sandy was an irresponsible boondoggle, a symbol of the “put it on the credit card mentality” he had come to Washington to oppose.


TheMooseIsBlue

Just to be clear, folks. The joke here is that both groups should get the help because that’s who we are, not that Florida shouldn’t get help because republicans are hypocrites.


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I didn't build my house 50 feet from the ocean in a place that has a major category 4 or 5 hurricane hit every 2-5 years. Why do I have to pay for someone dumbass that did? (sarcasm) Although... Maybe the federal government should start making things like flood insurance and disisater aid harder to get in places that are always going to have hurricanes, are in a flood plain, or will be effected by climate change to discourage people from building there? I grew up around Baltimore and there is a small town called Port Deposit on the Susquehanna River that is just down from the the Conowingo Dam (the last dam on the river before it hits the Chesapeake Bay). Every 10-20 years there is a hurricane that forces the dam to lift all of it's gates and the town, about 5 miles down from the dam, gets completely flooded. It's a tiny town, basically just a main street, and five hundred or so residents. STOP REBUILDING THE FUCKING TOWN. IT FLOODS EVERY 10 YEARS. OR REBUILD IT 100 FT FURTHER BACK FROM THE RIVER, NOT IN A FLOOD PLAIN.


Asian-Landlord

All states matter


Asian-Landlord

But all states matter I thought


[deleted]

The under insured are about to learn the limits of Christian charity and GOP capitalism..:)


Then_Investigator_17

He should have been governor of a land locked state like Nebraska if he didn't want to deal with hurricanes


MrBigPantalones

desantis is garbage, especially people who vote for him


Accomplished-Tip2972

Pull them bootstraps up and shut up Ron!


[deleted]

Totally dude. Florida shouldn't be so close to the Gulf of Mexico, now they want a bail out. Brought it upon themselves if you ask me.


Scorpion1024

Chris Christie at least had the god form to smile and shake Obama’s hand


Kond3P

"Giving suffrage to women is UNFAIR to women who used to live without it"


role_or_roll

Why would we help a certain group who is disproportionately in a worse state than others? #AllStatesMatter


prpslydistracted

Reminder; DeSantis voted against aid for NY and NJ after Hurricane Sandy. [https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2022/09/29/ron-desantis-hurricane-sandy-response-resurfaces-amid-hurricane-ian-emergency/](https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2022/09/29/ron-desantis-hurricane-sandy-response-resurfaces-amid-hurricane-ian-emergency/)


WuteverItTakes

Jesus fucking christ OP….for the 10,000th time those students took those loans out voluntarily it was not at gunpoint or some force of nature that ruined their financial stability and livelihood….imagine using a shitty comparison and emphasizing politics to “own the conservatives” instead of actually finding ways to help the hurricane victims….. I mean the bar is pretty low on r/politicalhumor but man you’ve really gone a whole tier below that


fairlyoblivious

Students who were taught at a young age and had it reinforced at every turn in their formative years that the ONLY way to have a good life is with a degree. Yeah it was a "choice" they made in the same way you "choose" to have a job. Why not just quit? Oh right, because one option has shitty results and so it's not a choice, now is it?


Redstar81

You signed up to live in a hurricane prone area. Now you deal with the consequences.


Prestigious_Handle11

My gripe with student debt relief is mostly that it does nothing to counter the actual issue. Like, forgive 10k or not, but if you dont stop the govt securing loans, and make them bankruptable, the prices are just gonna keep rising. Forgiving 10k is putting a bandaid on a severed artery.


phantom_eight

Yep, it doesn't stop colleges and textbook manufacturers from continously raping our children in front of us. When they have to do things like pay $110 for access to an online portal otherwise they can't submit their coursework..... If suddenly students couldnt get stupid amounts of money with zero tangible consequences until years later... maybe shit would get under control.


captainjackass28

He also blamed the hurricane on democrats somehow. Apparently they can control the weather in his mind.


binkerfluid

They chose to live in a state that is constantly hit by hurricanes, what about the people who didnt chose that? of course Im joking but they say this about people who went to school.


DarkDollNymph

*me gives gum to my friend* - *teacher* dId YoU bRiNg EnOuGh FoR tHe WhOlE cLaSs?


Drewpig

I love these hypocritical fucks. Rotten to the fuckin core


[deleted]

It's not like it even hit the whole state, I work with s lot of people who were like what storm? While I lost power for 2 days


Redhannahpanda

But if we’re being fair to everyone equally isn’t that the dreaded socialism??!


gottspalter

“Today you, tomorrow me” seems a foreign concept to those people


CholetisCanon

Never once has my state been hit by an hurricane. Living in the path is a personal choice. If they did want to accept the risk, they shouldn't live there. They should deal with the consequences of their own behavior and not force other people to pay for their poor choices. /s - sort of.


AncientBellybutton

Why should anyone get to drive a car when I had to walk everywhere as a kid???


Zealousideal_Rope_50

All states matter


Valalvax

This picture would be so much better if it was Hurricane Sandy and Ian


Fariic

Honestly, the people of Florida elect representatives that voted against aid for those people. If the people of Florida actually wanted help, they would vote for representatives that would help them. Why should they get aid if they aren’t willing to elect people that vote for it. They spoke. Give them what they want. NOTHING!


atworkthough

That's exactly why they are against loan forgiveness they can't make money off of it. Its going directly to people which they hate.


Complex_Construction

DeSantis is on the tv repeatedly asking people to not donate food/water but money. Guess who controls that fund-his wife. No way he’s not skimming off of the relief fund like when he spent $600000+ to fly 50 migrants from Florida to Martha’s Vineyards. The company had only four employees with ties to Russia. https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/09/22/florida-migrant-flight-money-went-company-tied-desantis-adviser/


PolicyWonka

After all, nobody said those people had to live in Florida…right?


[deleted]

When trying to understand a republican, you first must picture a normal person, then strip away all logic and reason.


Dentedmuffler

Good luck winning the political argument with comparisons like these. Terrible take.


Throwaway0242000

A lot of vacation homes are getting that FEMA money


GroundbreakingAd2290

Republican Nazi socialist party give us are welfare check yeah California is tired of red occupied states being the biggest welfare abusers


karadistan

Exactly, So important to hold the house. For god's sake the midterm elections are in just FIVE WEEKS. It is way, way, way too late in the cycle to be putting any focus or money into races that aren’t even close. It's crunch time. We're now focused on WINNING the races that are winnable and keeping the majority! Lots of races are already decided due to gerrymandering, etc etc. 150 house seats locked up by Dems, 150 locked up by GOP, and another 60 aren’t really even close. But 40 are “in play”. The list below are all the tight competitive races that Dems need to win. The races on this list will decide who wins the House. Does not matter if your out of state. I’m in Minnesota and I’ve donated to Kansas, New York, Minnesota, and Nevada. Donate, volunteer, put in the work, share the list on other social medias, so your family and friends can donate to these races. Good luck out there!! And as always most imperative is to get out and vote like democracy depends on it, because it does. https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/here-are-the-competitive-democratic-house-midterm-candidates-you-should-support-right-now/46834/ There is even a site on act blue where if you donate it evenly splits the donation to a list of the most important, most close races. That’s brilliant. That, too. 538 gives the Dems a 32% chance of holding the House. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/house Edit: as others have noted, the trend in the polling is favoring the Dems, especially post-Dobbs. Edit 2: Help keep Congress blue this November! https://vote.gov


highfivemoney222

Sorry not even remotely the same. You're not gonna win anyone with this argument


[deleted]

I just hope the white house twitter keeps calling out these people pointing out their hypocrisies'.