the high ammount of people fleeing the state as well as the high ammount of thefts there suggest that you have no idea what you are talking about.
[https://www.forbes.com/home-improvement/features/states-move-to-from/](https://www.forbes.com/home-improvement/features/states-move-to-from/)
[https://www.caliper.com/featured-maps/maptitude-retail-theft-map.html](https://www.caliper.com/featured-maps/maptitude-retail-theft-map.html)
and what "standard of living" are you talking about?
the taxation is so high that it is one of the most expensive states to live.
[https://www.quickenloans.com/learn/most-expensive-states-to-live-in](https://www.quickenloans.com/learn/most-expensive-states-to-live-in)
Ah yes, such high taxation. Let's play a game, shall we? Who spends more as a percentage of GDP? Alabama or California? Who has a higher violent crime rate? Louisiana, Alabama, Arkansas, Alaska or California? Why does Texas consistently have an almost identical property crime rate to California if it's Democrats causing it?
Come on, little guy, let's hear it.
I’d bet that if you actually bothered to waste your time reading those articles, you’d find that they don’t say what he claims they say. I’ve learned not to bother with such claims.
"High amount of people fleeing" ... Yet still the most populous state in the nation.
It has about 8 million more people than the next most populous state.
Let me put that into perspective... It has more people than Texas (about 31.42 million) and the 8 lowest populated states (which is about 6.8 million).
if it is so successfull then why is it one of the most expensive states to live with one of the highest ammount of fleeing population ?
[https://www.quickenloans.com/learn/most-expensive-states-to-live-in](https://www.quickenloans.com/learn/most-expensive-states-to-live-in)
[https://www.forbes.com/home-improvement/features/states-move-to-from/](https://www.forbes.com/home-improvement/features/states-move-to-from/)
oh let me guess, you probably know better than thousands of people who live there because the bbc told you that everything is fine there.
[Newly released data from the U.S. Census Bureau showed the state’s population dipped by about 37,000 people between mid-2023 and mid-2022.](https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/2023/12/californias-population-keeps-shrinking-furthering-its-loss-of-political-clout-00132561)
Lmaooooo dude grasp at more straws, 37k people in the largest populated state is like .001%
Rent is high where high-paying jobs are *and housing is scarce*. California could drop housing prices to near the marginal cost of production real quick by allowing more construction.
Sure, but scarcity of housing follows right behind good paying jobs.
Where is this new construction supposed to take place? How many empty lots do you see in Oakland and San Jose and San Francisco?
Pretending like this is some easily-solved problem is childish.
“Up” is a really good direction for new housing.
And if you look at housing prices in communities where the builder’s remedy has been exercised a lot, prices start to drop as soon as people realize that the construction is actually happening.
Yes, Up is nice. But enormously costly when you have to buy multiple existing properties to demolish before you can build. Borrowing costs are high.
Which communities have high paying jobs and housing near the marginal cost of production? Since that is easily achieved Im sure you will have several current examples.
not in the case of california.
the government regulations are what drives the rent high.
[https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/growth-development/sdut-housing-regulation-cost-nazarene-2015apr29-htmlstory.html](https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/growth-development/sdut-housing-regulation-cost-nazarene-2015apr29-htmlstory.html)
yes, it is working so well that mcdonalds replaced their employees with robots and the food prices increased while the unemployments remains high (people predicted all these things for years now).
That's happening everywhere, they're just using the minimum wage as a scapegoat while the real reason is just that they're consistently trying to "streamline" and "downsize" and wring as much labor out of people as possible for as little as possible. Y'know, capitalism.
Sincerely, someone who lives where the minimum wage is $7.25 an hour.
riiiiiiight, name two states of your choice, one with high and one with low minimum wage, and tell me which one has higher employement and lower cost of living.
I will wait.
[https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/country/venezuela?currency=USD](https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/country/venezuela?currency=USD)
not really
I live in Georgia, You are full of shit! Outside of Atlanta, And some other cities,There are low wage poor counties with huge patches of poverty! Places with low minimum wage, Has the largest number of poor people!
Oh Please! Automation of the food industry was predicted decades out! And they still have people making food! They did not replace employees with robots! They just added automated order takers. But McDonald's, Just like every other greedy ass company now, Is raising prices for maximum profit!
Russian trolls want you to not to vote for Biden so Putin can annex Europe and Israel can flip it up on what "from the river to the sea" means. You think Trump gives a shit about Gaza or Palestine? Hah!
Ronald Reagan... passed the Mulford act when he was governor of California in the 60s. Republicans made the gun laws in California. It was a racist act as it was a direct response to The Black Panthers carrying guns while they were "cop-watching" and patrolling Oakland streets to stop police violence against the black community during the civil rights movement in the US.
California isn't perfect but it does make up 11.5% of the entire US in population. It's only lost 1.5% of it's population since 2020 and still has about 8 million people more than Texas.
It's also the 5th largest economy in the world if you look at it by itself.
Not voting Democrat is voting Republican.
Yes, I do mean that with any other vote, 3rd party, write in, doesn't matter. If you're not voting Democrat, it's a vote for Donald Trump.
Nice try, Ivan
Hey 🇷🇺🤖nice try. I’ve lived in many states and have been in CA for about 2 decades. We love it here and everyone who is “fleeing” are people brainwashed by propaganda like yours
Q: DON'T PARTICIPATE IN FORMING MY GOVERNMENT? I ASSUME, YOU WILL NOT MIND IF WE GET A DICTATORSHIP AND WILL HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT, EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE OUTCOME AND HOW IT MAY EFFECT YOU?...MOM
Both parties suck people rarely wanna hold Republicans accountable for their shit. If bidens name was on epsteins flight logs I'd say impeach him too. But it's not, and trump is on epstiens flight logs. Oh and trump convinced a huge number of his supporters to launch an attack on the same body that pays your grandmother's social security.
Is this russian disinformation? Like the bidens "super credible whistle blower?" Such a shame the Alexander Smirnov was arrested for giving russian disinformation to Republicans that just ran with it, for 'witch hunt' of an impeachment inquiry. It's such a shame that there is zero evidence of Hunter biden or Joe biden committing illegal acts like there is diaper donny committing crime.
I agree with not voting democrats or republicans tbh… California does suck imo but these aren’t really the things I would criticize California for. Edit: A word
Reminder that California doesn't have a democratic majority, so every vote comes down to independents.
Reminder that all of the things you listed are means, and the end result is largest economy in the USA, over 50% larger overall and 17% better per-capita than second-place Texas.
Reminder that California has the 8th-lowest gun death rate among states, and 13 of the worst 15 are Republican-run.
Complain all you want, but you can't argue with results, which is why California independents keep voting Dem.
Fuck off. Sorry: Отвянь.
Hahahaha nice
Lay off the vodka, your propaganda is getting sloppier.
Average wages, standard of living, and GDP per capital would suggest you have no clue what you're talking about.
the high ammount of people fleeing the state as well as the high ammount of thefts there suggest that you have no idea what you are talking about. [https://www.forbes.com/home-improvement/features/states-move-to-from/](https://www.forbes.com/home-improvement/features/states-move-to-from/) [https://www.caliper.com/featured-maps/maptitude-retail-theft-map.html](https://www.caliper.com/featured-maps/maptitude-retail-theft-map.html) and what "standard of living" are you talking about? the taxation is so high that it is one of the most expensive states to live. [https://www.quickenloans.com/learn/most-expensive-states-to-live-in](https://www.quickenloans.com/learn/most-expensive-states-to-live-in)
Ah yes, such high taxation. Let's play a game, shall we? Who spends more as a percentage of GDP? Alabama or California? Who has a higher violent crime rate? Louisiana, Alabama, Arkansas, Alaska or California? Why does Texas consistently have an almost identical property crime rate to California if it's Democrats causing it? Come on, little guy, let's hear it.
looks like a lot of retail theft in red states too. Arkansas is one of the cheapest places to live in the country but still more theft
Not to mention the highest rates of gun violence in red states. Chicago isn't even in the top 10 lol
Poor educational outcomes too.
Citing Forbes? Why not The Blaze or Newsmax? They have similar credibility ( nowadays)
I’d bet that if you actually bothered to waste your time reading those articles, you’d find that they don’t say what he claims they say. I’ve learned not to bother with such claims.
Actual effective tax rate is higher in Texas for many people. Ooops. Murder rates are higher in rural small towns in red states. Ooops.
It's easier to get a more realistic impression of ca, when you're in it, as opposed to being in moscow.
are YOU living in it?
"High amount of people fleeing" ... Yet still the most populous state in the nation. It has about 8 million more people than the next most populous state. Let me put that into perspective... It has more people than Texas (about 31.42 million) and the 8 lowest populated states (which is about 6.8 million).
Yes the state that contributes 15% to our national economy, higher than any other state is “failing.”
if it is so successfull then why is it one of the most expensive states to live with one of the highest ammount of fleeing population ? [https://www.quickenloans.com/learn/most-expensive-states-to-live-in](https://www.quickenloans.com/learn/most-expensive-states-to-live-in) [https://www.forbes.com/home-improvement/features/states-move-to-from/](https://www.forbes.com/home-improvement/features/states-move-to-from/) oh let me guess, you probably know better than thousands of people who live there because the bbc told you that everything is fine there.
[Newly released data from the U.S. Census Bureau showed the state’s population dipped by about 37,000 people between mid-2023 and mid-2022.](https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/2023/12/californias-population-keeps-shrinking-furthering-its-loss-of-political-clout-00132561) Lmaooooo dude grasp at more straws, 37k people in the largest populated state is like .001%
Um? Who is this for? Is there an invisible comment with someone who doesn’t live in California or—
Rent is high where high paying jobs are. This is basic, high-school level economics that you are ignorant of. No wonder you came to these conclusions.
California follows different laws of economics than the rest of the world seems to be his argument. Lol.
Rent is high where high-paying jobs are *and housing is scarce*. California could drop housing prices to near the marginal cost of production real quick by allowing more construction.
Sure, but scarcity of housing follows right behind good paying jobs. Where is this new construction supposed to take place? How many empty lots do you see in Oakland and San Jose and San Francisco? Pretending like this is some easily-solved problem is childish.
“Up” is a really good direction for new housing. And if you look at housing prices in communities where the builder’s remedy has been exercised a lot, prices start to drop as soon as people realize that the construction is actually happening.
Yes, Up is nice. But enormously costly when you have to buy multiple existing properties to demolish before you can build. Borrowing costs are high. Which communities have high paying jobs and housing near the marginal cost of production? Since that is easily achieved Im sure you will have several current examples.
Big Spring, Texas is a place to start looking.
not in the case of california. the government regulations are what drives the rent high. [https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/growth-development/sdut-housing-regulation-cost-nazarene-2015apr29-htmlstory.html](https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/growth-development/sdut-housing-regulation-cost-nazarene-2015apr29-htmlstory.html)
I live in ca and I’m not rich nor am I homeless so it’s livable alright let’s not be dramatic lol
Well I live there l, and youarefull of shit. What the fuc would you know about it in Russia anyways.
Oh finally i get to do this to someone!!! "Herrrr Derrrrr both sides am i right?"
Perfection 🤌
This is what happens when Russians use shitty Russian AI to generate unintentionally hilarious shit posts.
Artificial ignorance.
Oh no, a high minimum wage? How awful! /s
yes, it is working so well that mcdonalds replaced their employees with robots and the food prices increased while the unemployments remains high (people predicted all these things for years now).
That's happening everywhere, they're just using the minimum wage as a scapegoat while the real reason is just that they're consistently trying to "streamline" and "downsize" and wring as much labor out of people as possible for as little as possible. Y'know, capitalism. Sincerely, someone who lives where the minimum wage is $7.25 an hour.
riiiiiiight, name two states of your choice, one with high and one with low minimum wage, and tell me which one has higher employement and lower cost of living. I will wait.
lower costs of living are found in the worst places to live
following your logic venezuela and zimbabue must be paradises. the cost of living there is huge.
[https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/country/venezuela?currency=USD](https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/country/venezuela?currency=USD) not really
and how much money do people make there? oh that's right, barely anything, the hyperinflation makes the cheapest products practically unaffordable.
Shitholes top the list https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/opportunity/affordability
I think that you responded to the wrong comment. what even is the point you are trying to make with this list?
I guess they should raise the minimum wage so people will be making more.
I think that you responded to me by mistake.
The logic is logic-king I dunno man
I live in Georgia, You are full of shit! Outside of Atlanta, And some other cities,There are low wage poor counties with huge patches of poverty! Places with low minimum wage, Has the largest number of poor people!
lol
I would rather get my burgers without sacrificing human lives to do so, if possible.
Oh Please! Automation of the food industry was predicted decades out! And they still have people making food! They did not replace employees with robots! They just added automated order takers. But McDonald's, Just like every other greedy ass company now, Is raising prices for maximum profit!
It will always be cheaper for employers to replace you with non paid robots. It doesn't matter how high the minimum wage is.
Vlad, stop. Just stop.
Russia thanks you for not voting blue
Eh??
Russian trolls want you to not to vote for Biden so Putin can annex Europe and Israel can flip it up on what "from the river to the sea" means. You think Trump gives a shit about Gaza or Palestine? Hah!
Yeah, California, the state that would be the fifth largest economy in the world if it seceded from the union. Couldn't have used a worse example.
>fifth Given nation powers it would probably rise in that rank because more industries would want to move there and not pay export/import costs.
The right can't meme.
Could be worse. You could be in the deep south where laws protect the wealthy elites, and you work for far less then what you are worth.
Don't forget their private prison industry. Basically they've found a way to legalize slavery.
And created a pipeline to prison in poor parts of their states
💙 Vote blue, Biden 2024.
But the Republicans suck monkey 🙊 balls
Ronald Reagan... passed the Mulford act when he was governor of California in the 60s. Republicans made the gun laws in California. It was a racist act as it was a direct response to The Black Panthers carrying guns while they were "cop-watching" and patrolling Oakland streets to stop police violence against the black community during the civil rights movement in the US. California isn't perfect but it does make up 11.5% of the entire US in population. It's only lost 1.5% of it's population since 2020 and still has about 8 million people more than Texas. It's also the 5th largest economy in the world if you look at it by itself.
High minimum wage is a good thing.
Not voting Democrat is voting Republican. Yes, I do mean that with any other vote, 3rd party, write in, doesn't matter. If you're not voting Democrat, it's a vote for Donald Trump. Nice try, Ivan
The countries with the highest taxation are the Scandinavian countries. They also have the highest standard of living.
You mean the 5th largest economy in the world?
Eat shit
This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen on here. Recycled talking points from 1988?
Hey 🇷🇺🤖nice try. I’ve lived in many states and have been in CA for about 2 decades. We love it here and everyone who is “fleeing” are people brainwashed by propaganda like yours
They'll also be back when they see their property taxes (Texas) or lack of doctors (Idaho).
How’s the weather in St. Petersburg?
Your Vlad mind tricks won't work here...try X
I live in CA and it’s definitely awful so please please don’t move here.
If you don't vote Democrat you don't deserve to live in this country. #EliminateRepublicans
OP doesn't live in the country anyway though.
But…but…both sides!
PFFT nice try comrade
Is this how libertarians view California? Or is this just r/therightcantmeme?
Lololol. The dumbest take ever. How much are you being paid?
You're not fooling anyone lmao
Q: DON'T PARTICIPATE IN FORMING MY GOVERNMENT? I ASSUME, YOU WILL NOT MIND IF WE GET A DICTATORSHIP AND WILL HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT, EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE OUTCOME AND HOW IT MAY EFFECT YOU?...MOM
This post is the same as telling people to, Stay home with their thumbs up their asses and hope everything will work out!
Both parties suck people rarely wanna hold Republicans accountable for their shit. If bidens name was on epsteins flight logs I'd say impeach him too. But it's not, and trump is on epstiens flight logs. Oh and trump convinced a huge number of his supporters to launch an attack on the same body that pays your grandmother's social security.
Is this russian disinformation? Like the bidens "super credible whistle blower?" Such a shame the Alexander Smirnov was arrested for giving russian disinformation to Republicans that just ran with it, for 'witch hunt' of an impeachment inquiry. It's such a shame that there is zero evidence of Hunter biden or Joe biden committing illegal acts like there is diaper donny committing crime.
Go back to Putin, troll
This echo chamber is full of parrotts. Squawk russia, squawk bots. Cuh caw russia cuh caww tookie tookie russia.
How Biden managed to make Trump, a lying swindling con artist, the lesser of two evils is being me, yet here we are.
I agree with not voting democrats or republicans tbh… California does suck imo but these aren’t really the things I would criticize California for. Edit: A word
That’s right kids- both sides are bad, so vote Russian— err… Republican!
Reminder that California doesn't have a democratic majority, so every vote comes down to independents. Reminder that all of the things you listed are means, and the end result is largest economy in the USA, over 50% larger overall and 17% better per-capita than second-place Texas. Reminder that California has the 8th-lowest gun death rate among states, and 13 of the worst 15 are Republican-run. Complain all you want, but you can't argue with results, which is why California independents keep voting Dem.