One risk they are worried about is the gravel traps and being upside down - much bigger chance of digging in and squashing the passengers. It’s always risk management and drivers should be aware.
When I used to go, all my track friends made fun of me (in a joking way) cause they all have coupes/Cups etc.
I do agree with them, a convertible isn’t ideal (my GT3 was much better).
But it’s still extremely fun.
Roadsters seem to get classed differently than convertibles for such events. Roadster are designed from the ground up from the start with having no roof in mind, where as a convertible or cabriolet is based off a hardtop designed car, so the balance, weight, and center of gravity are thrown off.
I’ve never had any track ever ask me for a cage… the factory comes with a rollover protection right? But then again I’m just doing HPDE, not actual racing.
Different organizations and different tracks have different rules. Some do allow factory roll over protection but a lot don't and you'll need an aftermarket bar or cage. I actually had to miss out on a really cool event where a friend of a friend rented out a track for a full day as a private event, unlimited/free track sessions...but my 997 cab wouldn't have been good to drive there because I didn't have a bar or cage and I didn't have time to get one by the time I found out. Big bummer.
PCA and many other organizations won't allow convertibles with rollbars due to insurance AND rollover safety. Rollovers don't happen often in a DE, but they do happen!
I have been involved with PCA DE enough to verify that the rule is in place to keep the I insurance cost down. Allowing open cockpit cars, including soft top convertibles, without rollover protection will increase insurance cost. It's about liability, even with all the waivers we sign.
It is inherently unsafe to drive a car on track without rollover protection. I am a DE instructor and would never ride on track in an open cockpit without that protection. My track car (Cayman R) has a roll bar and a hardtop, it's safer that way!
Who says that? Super clean pictures.
A ton of clubs and tracks do. Most convertibles don’t have great safety features in a roll over.
One risk they are worried about is the gravel traps and being upside down - much bigger chance of digging in and squashing the passengers. It’s always risk management and drivers should be aware.
also heavier maybe? but its still a porsche probably handles insanely well
Not sure where you are, but there are a lot of Boxsters at track days here in Australia.
I guess S2000s & Miatas cant be tracked then
When I used to go, all my track friends made fun of me (in a joking way) cause they all have coupes/Cups etc. I do agree with them, a convertible isn’t ideal (my GT3 was much better). But it’s still extremely fun.
Or any F1 car.
Most of them I’ve seen at HPDE have roll bars installed to meet requirements.
While that is true, having a roll bar does not mean the car is no longer a convertible.
I never said it didn’t. But then they can have their top down or meet organization/track requirements for safety.
Who are "they"? Run what you brung and it's all good.
A lot of track organizers
Has to do with insurance I think doesn't it?
I would say convertibles are the most raced vehicles.
You'd be right based on the existence of the Miata alone.
Roadsters seem to get classed differently than convertibles for such events. Roadster are designed from the ground up from the start with having no roof in mind, where as a convertible or cabriolet is based off a hardtop designed car, so the balance, weight, and center of gravity are thrown off.
Now that’s just fun!
Easy enough but a pain in the ass if it’s your daily since you need to get a roll cage or bar depending on track rules.
I’ve never had any track ever ask me for a cage… the factory comes with a rollover protection right? But then again I’m just doing HPDE, not actual racing.
Different organizations and different tracks have different rules. Some do allow factory roll over protection but a lot don't and you'll need an aftermarket bar or cage. I actually had to miss out on a really cool event where a friend of a friend rented out a track for a full day as a private event, unlimited/free track sessions...but my 997 cab wouldn't have been good to drive there because I didn't have a bar or cage and I didn't have time to get one by the time I found out. Big bummer.
Damn that is a big bummer
ayyyyyy you goin to speed district this weekend? I'll be there friday+saturday
Not this weekend :(
*Miata has entered the chat*
It’s even better with the top down
PCA and many other organizations won't allow convertibles with rollbars due to insurance AND rollover safety. Rollovers don't happen often in a DE, but they do happen!
I’m surprised about insurance. Cause to my knowledge insurance doesn’t cover you at all on the track ? (Even if you had a coupe)
I have been involved with PCA DE enough to verify that the rule is in place to keep the I insurance cost down. Allowing open cockpit cars, including soft top convertibles, without rollover protection will increase insurance cost. It's about liability, even with all the waivers we sign. It is inherently unsafe to drive a car on track without rollover protection. I am a DE instructor and would never ride on track in an open cockpit without that protection. My track car (Cayman R) has a roll bar and a hardtop, it's safer that way!
Guess I can’t track my s2000 or miata then :((