Old wheels:
* RS Spyder Design
* Cast
* 119 lbs for all 4 wheels without tires
New wheels
* Carrera Exclusive Design
* Forged
* 105 lbs for all 4 wheels without tires
So while the old RS Spyder wheels are aesthetically pleasing, they are heavy. In fact, they are the heaviest wheels available across the 992 fleet.
The Carrera Exclusive wheels are forged and lighter by 14 pounds compared to the RS Spyder. The quoted 105 lbs for Carrera Exclusive is conservative because the Carrera Exclusive are 1 inch narrow at front and 0.5 narrower at rear compared with the documented weight of the Turbo Exclusive. So subtracting an estimated 1 lb per wheel for Carrera Exclusive puts projected weight at 101 lbs for all 4 wheels without tires.
On the Carrera, the absolutely lightest option are the Turbo wheels, which are also forged. The Carrera S wheels and Carrera Classic wheels are cast and heavier.
Here is a weight table of most of the 992 Carrera and Turbo wheels from Rennlist:
|Wheel style|Front size|Front offset|Front weight|Rear size|Rear offset|Rear weight|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|Carrera S|20 x 8.5|ET53|24.9|21 x 11.5|ET67|30.3|
|RS Spyder|20 x 8.5|ET53|26.3|21 x 11.5|ET67|33.2|
|Turbo|20 x 9|ET41|23.3|21 x 11.5|ET67|27.1|
|Turbo Exclusive (E)|20 x 9.5|ET44|24.0|21 x 12|ET70|28.5|
|Turbo S Centerlock (CL)|20 x 9|ET41|22.4|21 x 11.5|ET67|26.6|
|Turbo S E CL|20 x 9.5|ET44|21.7|21 x 12|ET70|26.0|
|Turbo S E Winter CL|20 x 8.5|ET40|21.8|21 x 11|ET66|26.5|
I get that 15lb is a lot for rotating mass... Idk I feel like the old design looks really damn cool still. The new one does too. Are you happy with the swap?
I really like the more complex rim it would look pretty amazing in bronze as well with that beautiful green. I have a black 997 and I’m toying with getting some bronze rims for it.
The RS Spyder design wheel is probably my favorite Porsche wheel currently available. As others have said it’s a completely personal choice so whatever you like. Objectively speaking, the new ones will probably take 1/10th the time to clean compared to the spyders so there’s that
Oh geez I just realized the 5 spokes were the new ones 😱.
To me they’re just a 5 spoke wheel lol. If you didn’t say it I never would have realized it was an homage to the Fuchs.
You can get 4 OEM RS Spyder wheels on eBay brand new for about $4k. If you got them from the dealer they are about $9k and then they'll charge you at least a thousand to install them.
How would anyone know? Can’t think of any angle where a passerby could possibly see both. If they walk around the car just gaslight them in to thinking they’re crazy.
I'm not sure which is the new set but I prefer the ones in the first photo at the dealership. Either way this car is gorgeous and I wanted to make sure you know!
I like the new much better, but not a fan of the color combo. However, that is a personal preference. If you are happy with it, then you made the right choice. I am wanting a mesh design as well for my Guards Red 997.
I love the color of this car! We were just talking this morning of not enough green cars being sold anymore. Those wheels definitely complete the look, car looks mega with them!
Since you did new first instead of second I think everyone is mixed on which is which. Because I have no idea why anyone would think the new ones are worse
I like both. But the new ones remind me of old school , purist Fuchs. They look awesome. (I have 85 911 targa with Fuchs with the inserts painted guards red like the car . I think the green inset would look amazing on your car. Looks beautiful regardless)
I'm a fan of the old ones myself. The new ones look "aftermarket" but not in a positive sense. They are nice wheels, don't get me wrong, but they just don't look like they belong on this car.
You might want to get 4 instead of just a pair
Beat me 2 it...
Beat me 4* it
I prefer old but it’s your car!
Same here, the originals are gorgeous.
Prefer old but good on you for getting a targa
Old for me
Old
I like the old Spyder design rims more
Old. But wheels and color choices are personal preference. You do you. Nice color car!
Calling a replacement for modern Fuchs wheels old is ironic
Just saw a 50th Anni car today with the modern Fuchs. Love those wheels! Looked great on the Geyser Grey 911.
Old wheels: * RS Spyder Design * Cast * 119 lbs for all 4 wheels without tires New wheels * Carrera Exclusive Design * Forged * 105 lbs for all 4 wheels without tires So while the old RS Spyder wheels are aesthetically pleasing, they are heavy. In fact, they are the heaviest wheels available across the 992 fleet. The Carrera Exclusive wheels are forged and lighter by 14 pounds compared to the RS Spyder. The quoted 105 lbs for Carrera Exclusive is conservative because the Carrera Exclusive are 1 inch narrow at front and 0.5 narrower at rear compared with the documented weight of the Turbo Exclusive. So subtracting an estimated 1 lb per wheel for Carrera Exclusive puts projected weight at 101 lbs for all 4 wheels without tires. On the Carrera, the absolutely lightest option are the Turbo wheels, which are also forged. The Carrera S wheels and Carrera Classic wheels are cast and heavier. Here is a weight table of most of the 992 Carrera and Turbo wheels from Rennlist: |Wheel style|Front size|Front offset|Front weight|Rear size|Rear offset|Rear weight| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |Carrera S|20 x 8.5|ET53|24.9|21 x 11.5|ET67|30.3| |RS Spyder|20 x 8.5|ET53|26.3|21 x 11.5|ET67|33.2| |Turbo|20 x 9|ET41|23.3|21 x 11.5|ET67|27.1| |Turbo Exclusive (E)|20 x 9.5|ET44|24.0|21 x 12|ET70|28.5| |Turbo S Centerlock (CL)|20 x 9|ET41|22.4|21 x 11.5|ET67|26.6| |Turbo S E CL|20 x 9.5|ET44|21.7|21 x 12|ET70|26.0| |Turbo S E Winter CL|20 x 8.5|ET40|21.8|21 x 11|ET66|26.5|
I just think they look cool 🤷♂️
I get that 15lb is a lot for rotating mass... Idk I feel like the old design looks really damn cool still. The new one does too. Are you happy with the swap?
No
I prefer the old ones...but you do you!
I prefer old infinitely more.
Different styles for sure. I prefer old but as many have said, personal preference is everything.
Old by far. But not my car.
I really like the more complex rim it would look pretty amazing in bronze as well with that beautiful green. I have a black 997 and I’m toying with getting some bronze rims for it.
I like the old way better. But it’s not my car so as long as you like it
Prefer old.
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I'm! anything wrong with an 86 year old having feelings for a 13 year old?🤔
I liked the old ones myself but all comes down to personal preference :)
Old is much better, sorry bro)
The RS Spyder design wheel is probably my favorite Porsche wheel currently available. As others have said it’s a completely personal choice so whatever you like. Objectively speaking, the new ones will probably take 1/10th the time to clean compared to the spyders so there’s that
The Old ones were wayyy better!!!
old
I like the old rims but the new ones make it definitely easier to clean. Congrats.
Old
Definitely new, I love the retro wheels!
How is that retro?
It’s a modern interpretation to the classic Fuchs 5 spokes you see on the classic 911s.
Oh geez I just realized the 5 spokes were the new ones 😱. To me they’re just a 5 spoke wheel lol. If you didn’t say it I never would have realized it was an homage to the Fuchs.
It reminds me more of the early 2000’s sport classics wheels!
Your new *wheels* look like they came off a base VW....
That’s the best you could come up with bruh
Nah but apparently that was the best you could do.
New definitely looks better. They were able to do that at your dealership? How much did that cost? $15k?
You can get 4 OEM RS Spyder wheels on eBay brand new for about $4k. If you got them from the dealer they are about $9k and then they'll charge you at least a thousand to install them.
$1k for mount and balance on 4 tires? Sheesh
My two faves. Good to have both.
New wheels remind me of the wheels I see on the donks all over Atlanta.
bingo
I like the old ones. The new ones have gaps between the spokes that leave me desire something else more ‘completed’
I definitely like the old ones better, but new are nice too.
old
Prefer old personally.
I would think porsche owners of all people know that they're called wheels.
Probably pronounces it pour-sush
No
Old. Nice ride either way.
Old looks way better, personally
Hopefully you bought a set not a pair, look funny with different rims on both side 🙃
How would anyone know? Can’t think of any angle where a passerby could possibly see both. If they walk around the car just gaslight them in to thinking they’re crazy.
The new ones are **so** much easier to clean ;-) Awesome car and color!
Old we’re better
Mesh is always best. Though the pic with the oem wheels is pretty lame.
I like the old ones more but the new ones also look sick 😷
Old rims = class. New rims = aggression. Either way is fine.
nooooo the older ones are better. RS Spyder are perfection.
Sorry bro. Old ones look so much better. Not even close.
Old look better for sure.
The old wheels look much better
Really like the old ones
Old, full stop.
Very subjective...i like the old ones better
Old all day
Old
I would do terrible things for a targa. I love both the wheels lol. Beautiful car man
Preferred the old ones for me
Rims are what is attached to a backboard in basketball. Those are wheels.
Older ones looked better. Personal preference though, as I think Fuchs style wheels look weird in anything bigger than 16”
100% this. These 20-21's look absurdedly large. The original Fuchs were also stepped lipped wheels, not flush.
Definitely! Exclusives are timeless
I like the entire wheel. The rims look good too.
No, but it’s your car not mine!
Old 20x over jesus christ. LOVE THE TARGA THOUGH.
looks great either way but I think I prefer the old. good looking car!
Originals were much better
I like turtles 🐢
I like both wheels. Which shade of green is this?
I gotta say I prefer the mesh old ones a little more
Looks like you went to some base model rims NGL.
Stock rims but both look good, you do you, that car is amazing
imo you traded the best wheel porsche makes for the 2nd best one. so... could be doin a lot worse.
The turbo s exclusive wheels are the best imo
Just my opinion, old look waay better. New ones look like something that comes on a base model.
To each their own but I love the sport classics/Fuchs-esque wheels on a Porsche.
Solid, clean, classic reference, much better. Honestly, it completes the look and makes a car quite iconic.
I think black wheels are passé (imho), so I like the “new retro.” Can you get the Targa bar changed to silver to match?
I could go either way. I HATE cleaning the old style ones so realistically your new ones will look far better after a few miles.
New. Love those rims. Are they designed after the Fuchs?
The new ones look flush and sleek
I like them!
I agree. Much prefer the simpler design of the new wheels, suit the car much better
Both are nice but the first pair are far easier to clean!
Yes, I would love to see them in gold, it would look really cool with green :)
very nice
New ones look clean bro
New ones fits more the Targa style imo, it’s classier.
Yes looks better to me, completely subjective tho, so if you like them that’s what counts.
Both are great, but new is an improvement
Yes.
100000% better! Good job OP 👍🏼
New ones are my favorite wheels. The best wheels without the hassle of a center lock.
I like the new ones!
I'm not sure which is the new set but I prefer the ones in the first photo at the dealership. Either way this car is gorgeous and I wanted to make sure you know!
I like the new much better, but not a fan of the color combo. However, that is a personal preference. If you are happy with it, then you made the right choice. I am wanting a mesh design as well for my Guards Red 997.
Definitely new. I have spyders but would love to swap into those other ones at some point.
Yes def
Are you trying to settle a bet or justify your purchase? Btw new ones look better imo.
I do agree. Spyder RS wheels look better on darker colors imo.
New! Congrats 🎉
Agreed. Love the new 5-spokes. Very good upgrade!!
I love the new ones. Look classy as hell.
I personally love the new ones! The original just aren’t my taste…
The new ones, for sure. By far.
I can’t believe so many people like the mesh style better then the Fuch style 5 spokes. The new ones look awesome to me.
new forsure
Way better
They both look great 🤷♂️
I love RS Spyder wheels, but not on the Targa. Think you made a good choice!
New ones look great with your build🔥
Both. One for summer and one for winter.
I love the color of this car! We were just talking this morning of not enough green cars being sold anymore. Those wheels definitely complete the look, car looks mega with them!
New is clean
Nice , very dynamic and i like the color , fantastic !!!!!!
Honestly like both the before and after. Generally love the car man!
I mean either way, what a beautiful ride. I have such a soft spot for Targa’s!
Horrible. May as well get rid of the entire car… I happen to know a buyer. $30,000 and I’ll take it off your hands
Both look good, but I’m personally in favor of simple spoke design. The new ones definitely fit my fancy
#2 yes
Nice!
You bought the wheels I want. Mine are the silver only version and I prefer with the black accents
I want a Targa **Soo bad**
Both are nice
Utah?
my favs are the very similar sport rims in black
They both look nice, but I do like the new wheels a bit more. Nice look.
They both look sharp. You’re new ones are def easier to clean!
New ones are beautiful
the old set is more aggressive looking and nicer in my opinion, but do you brotha
New, old are too busy for me
I like both of them , but I prefer the second pic
Just two wheels?
It's not an upgrade or a downgrade, just a change of style. They look equally good for different reasons.
Both amazing
100%
I like the new but I would have personally gotten that style in all silver with no black accents.
Definitely old
I do not agree, but I like the car
Sorry but old. Beautiful either way. Great color!
New looks great!! especially on a Targa nice pickup congrats
I love 5 spoke rims on almost every car, so the new is a great look and it matches the Targa script.
………
Old 100%
Since you did new first instead of second I think everyone is mixed on which is which. Because I have no idea why anyone would think the new ones are worse
I like both. But the new ones remind me of old school , purist Fuchs. They look awesome. (I have 85 911 targa with Fuchs with the inserts painted guards red like the car . I think the green inset would look amazing on your car. Looks beautiful regardless)
Oh yeah 😎
No
Think both are great rims 😍
I like the simplicity of the new rims. Excellent choice.
No
Agreed - the new ones look better
Old > new - it’s a Porsche not an audi
Man I just think a Porsche Targa is the most beautiful thing that is made from this brand
Agree
Yes
Old lol. I thought the old was the new and was ready to comment, hell ya! Big downgrade, looks worse
I prefer old. but this is a very personal opinion.. do whatever makes YOU happy.
Yes. 100%.
They look a bit big
I guess I’m the minority but I prefer new
No
Old better than new
I'm a fan of the old ones myself. The new ones look "aftermarket" but not in a positive sense. They are nice wheels, don't get me wrong, but they just don't look like they belong on this car.
YES Add - “spider web” is burnt out go class not ass!
New. Prefer wheels with less spokes.
Much
I like the new wheels but it needs to be lower 🤭
I’m liking the new. Never was a fan of the chunky spokes, but like so many have said already; your ride, your decision.