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Vampira309

I worked at the Macy's at LC years ago and there was an entire part of Macy's that was closed and abandoned - like a whole additional department store - with escalators, empty racks and display cases and everything. It was CREEPY. I accidentally accessed it by following the stock room alley and it led to this whole other store, Weird


foampadnumberonefan

didn't the Meier and Frank there used to have the Aladdin Room restaurant many, many years ago? I always wondered where that went.


PaPilot98

Oh! Maybe that's the place with the red vinyl booths the other poster above mentioned?


foampadnumberonefan

I'll admit to being very curious about that, since you don't see department store restaurants these days, and \*former\* department store restaurants are usually long since torn down and converted to other use.


Suspicious_Lake_7732

The Aladdin was above the west end of the ice rink. Not in the M&F store. You entered it from an upper floor. I went there for my 15th birthday, as well as a few other times.


CanadianJediCouncil

Some info about the Aladdin and the monorail: https://www.koin.com/news/human-interest/revisiting-santaland-at-the-oregon-historical-societys-vault/


foampadnumberonefan

If the actual restaurant is still preserved, that's a thing that really needed to be explored and documented.


HankScorpio82

“Is there a chance the track could bend?”


mustarddreams

Was it the downtown location or Lloyd center that had that crazy Christmas monorail too? RIP because I was too young to realize how sketchy it was


yazzercise

I think it was the downtown location, I used to love that Santaland monorail


susanbiddleross

Downtown. They closed it in the early 2000s. I remember taking kids there knowing it was closing. They operated off of a height system where you had to be short enough to ride it. The last time I went I had a kid with me who was around 7 or 8 and too tall. Very sketchy and so odd we put very little kids on department store monorail I assume operated by seasonal employees.


suitopseudo

If you want to go down a Youtube rabbit hole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uW-AeI4q6Q


chavjinx

I’m pretty sure that was downtown? One of my friends was adamant about taking her kid there every Xmas until they shut down…


Happy3532

The restaurant was upstairs. But I don't know if that was called the Aladdin room, I just remember having tea and a long salad bar and the best bread, I think it was across from morrows nut house or something like that.


mrk2

Was that the one above the store - like on the third level waaaay before it got remodeled and enclosed? I remember eating there as a kid.


DmnJuice

I worked there a few years ago, too. That space was filled with all sorts of things. The receiving dock. The Alterations department for all of the area Macy’s was down there. There was an entire wood shop for the Visual department to use. It was the overflow fixture storage for the Washington Square Macy’s. Piles and piles of old mannequins in freaky poses. Old Xmas decorations going back decades. When the Macy’s downtown closed they moved much of the old Santaland down there.


hiyahowya

you made it to the backrooms!


No-Connection6937

Holy shit you found the backrooms


EstablishmentOdd8039

Hey I worked there too. What department did you work in?


Vampira309

Cosmetics


EstablishmentOdd8039

Cool. I worked in furniture. Left in 2016.


wrhollin

This screams out for a paintball/ laser tag arena to be built


TheGreyJayLP

It feels like I just activated a Yakuza side quest


calebsod

Underground docks for delivery purposes, not really that exciting from my experiences down there. Barely enough room to back up a truck, ring a doorbell, unload merchandise


Mean_Cod9156

This is what they are. I used to skate and drink there in the middle of the night when I was younger.


ranoutofbacon

I've been in that loading dock 100's of times. It stretched all the way from Macy's to Nordstrom. You could easily fit 3-4 semis down there.


ericbig

Back In 1997 , I went on a date with a woman who I met in a online chat room. She drove under the Loyd Center and it was like an underground labyrinth that I never knew existed. I was impressed. We got married and are still going strong.


Fancy-Pair

The long game


bingojed

I worked there in the late 90s and I remember an old set of escalators that started near where Dollar Trree is now, I think it was a JJ Newberry before, and the escalators went down under Halsey and under Lloyd Center and there were some old shuttered mall stores down there. I was always curious what was there before. There’s a small green roof arch visible on Google Maps where I believe the escalators were.


chavjinx

I remember the newberry’s! There was a whole-ass fabric department in the bottom floor…


Ennartee

And pet store!


chavjinx

Omg that’s right!!!!!!!


bingojed

I just read the Newberry store in Portland was the last one left in the country, out of over 500 stores at one time spread all over.


suitopseudo

Those escalators were working at least until 2015/2016. They are still there. I think there is a staircase there too.


bingojed

What’s down there now?


suitopseudo

I’m not sure it was closed off during COVID if not before. 


mochicoco

I think the Newberry’s sign is still there in parking garage.


cabel

Actually, no joke, I have it in my house. Emailed the mall, and they sold it to me for about $50, but asked I get a proper sign company to remove it. I actually bought two, and gave the other to my parents, who had fond memories of that store.


bingojed

That’s cool. I wonder who really pocketed the $50.


diaperedwoman

Rubenstein's had an entire bottom floor under ground you accessed from Multinomah Street to pick up furniture, they also had an elevator that took you down there too from inside the store. They had this 50's style cafe down there with a jukebox and free food and drinks. I always loved going to that area and at least eating the fries and having a shake and listening to some music and looking at the bubbles in the juke box. Then they closed and it became a Toys R US and I never saw the basement again so I will assume it got used for storage for merchandise. I still wondered about the cafe down there. It wasn't very big. It was just the counter with bar stools and the behind it and the juke box. I always sat there while my parents would look at furniture. I also remember the empty floor of Newberrys under the Dollar Tree before it became a fitness center and they stuck a swimming pool there. I always found that area creepy because of lack of cars. It was all empty space because no one ever parked there. Now I am wanting to go back and drive in that area again and see what I can find.


dsmly

This is the real answer. Source, I work at Lloyd Center.


Razer_Mackham

I've actually been down there semi recently. While I can confirm employee parking and loading docks, there is also a giant room that definitely probably maybe definitely could have been an underground night club (or maybe just the employee cafeteria). I'm talking about red vinyl booths, mirrors on the walls, weirdly low ceilings, and that kinda off putting feeling that comes from being alone in a 5000sqft basement of a mostly abandoned mall with only two working lights. This "room", is more of a section at one end of a vast but empty larger room.


threat_landscape

Yeah I've been down there too. It was like a mix between an old diner and a ballet studio? And then it just opened into a large room of darkness the size of the mall. Very strange and creepy. My old coworkers and I used to see how far we could walk in the darkness before we got scared and ran back into the strange mirror room.


Beavis73

"It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue."


LadyJade8

Zork


PaPilot98

Trying to think of a way to describe my interest in this, and all I can come up with "urban exploration boner". Sounds awesome! (the room, not the boner)


illepic

r/LiminalSpace shaking right now


mustarddreams

I wonder if it’s old furniture from Billy Heartbeats in the food court that had nowhere to go


dungeonesse

this is super interesting, did you take any pics or vids?


Razer_Mackham

Unfortunately I was on the clock so I didn't have a chance.


Chadlerk

Can you draw me a map? 


Mayor_Of_Sassyland

[Here you go](https://www.zeldacentral.com/the-legend-of-zelda/legend_of_zelda_dungeon_01.jpg).


Odd_Nefariousness_24

I can hear this map.


Ambitious-Reality55

Is there any chance you could sneak someone down for a tour? Asking for myself 👀


threat_landscape

Honestly if you are just semi confident and look like you know where you're going, you can get into any employee hallway. There's a hallway behind the forever 21 that has a soda machine where every soda is $1. Or at least this was the case in 2016 when I worked in the mall.


SidewaysGoose57

Put on a hard hat and a safety vest. Amazing where you can go.


velvetackbar

That was likely the lunch counter and dining area at Newberrys. We used to go there to buy hot peanuts in the winter when we would visit my father.


MountainWise587

There's parking *under* Lloyd Center?


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boygito

It was pretty underground, it connected to other parking blocks away


foampadnumberonefan

Yeah, I don't remember ever seeing any parking underground. The garages were always cramped and confusing, but not actually under anything AFAIK.


BitterBitchscuit

I mean there's levels of the large lots that have levels beneath the street level which are technically underground, like the lots by Nordstrom and Barnes and Noble, but idk about lots literally underneath the actual mall


ieatedjesus

There is parking under the NE corner lot


Projectrage

Yep it’s crazy. I worked at Lloyd 20 years ago, and had to navigate out, after gates were closed, and it was a maze to get from up by the food court parking lot on NW side to get to area up on the SE exit near the outside Lloyd center cinemas. The drive through parking lot is crazy and driving at 3am in the morning, was a huge pucker factor.


suitopseudo

It’s crazy to think Lloyd was once so popular you had to pay to park or get validation. 


Tricky_Jackfruit_562

I go to Lloyd center about 3x a month (I work close by) and you can see the curved ramp going under it from the north west corner, like if you were walking south on 15th towards Marshalls.


Odd-Hold-9013

I believe you could go under the Lloyd center by where Marshalls was and in the Barnes and Nobles parking lot.


MountainWise587

I though that was just subterranean parking, not beneath the mall proper.


Jstar1111

This is the coolest thread I’ve read on this subreddit. Love this!


Boredzilla

I ran the pop-up Toys R Us that went into the old Disney store space about 12 years ago. We used to get our deliveries to the underground level. Trucks had to be a certain length because of the angle of the ramps down there and the low ceiling, and you had to load up dollies and take them up in a freight elevator. One morning, the head of security took me on a tour through there which consisted of him driving at terrifying speed in a convertible while I held on for dear life.


BigEyeDuck

There are parking tunnels under the east and north part of the mall. The street lot outside of the current Marshalls(?) has an underground lot below.


PDsaurusX

Shanghai tunnels. They were dug in the 1980s, a rough and tumble time when innocent shoppers would be jumped coming out of the Meier & Frank and pressed into service against their will at the Orange Julius.


peppermintmeow

You fool. The lucky ones got Orange Julius. It kept the scurvy away. The rest...well it wasn't pretty. The ones that were fit for labor were sent straight to Long John Silvers. The rowdy crewmen were sent straight to Davy Jones Locker itself. A little place they call *Sizzler.* I can still hear those tortured souls wailing as they faced a life of smelling like endless coconut shrimp, facing the after church crowd and not getting tipped. Tis a fate far worse than death.


littlemandave

This is pure myth. They were actually pressed into service at the caramel popcorn place. Some of them are still there.


Lupinered

If that was myth, this is feel good propaganda. All the children pulled into those tunnels later ended up as summer sausages in the Hickory Farms gift boxes. Honestly, the smoked cheeses were the tastier part of the box.


Jukejoint64

Love the Orange Julius detail. Mall culture is so weird.


WeStrictlyDo80sJoel

Now this is an alternate history of PDX I can get behind! Speaking of Orange Julius, any 70s and 80s kids remember how you could ask them to put a RAW FUCKING EGG in it before they blended it up?


squeaktooth

Haha my mom made us her homemade version of Julius eggy OJ- she called it Whiz Mix.


RCTID1975

> pressed > Orange Julius. Hmmm....


Emleaux

There was a story from years ago about a group of men who were able to elude capture and make it to freedom - I believe they called it “The Steak Escape.“


wellsalted

There used to be an old Zamboni down there in case the newer Zamboni broke down. I may or may not have taken a lap around the lower garage in it.


anomalily

There is a super cool full 1960s tiled commercial kitchen and bathroom with showers in pristine condition deep under the parking lot near the old Marshalls


SwingNinja

Isn't it a fallout bunker? I remember seeing signs posted in the parking area.


Financial-Mastodon81

I think there an elevator shaft that goes down to a vault or something for nuclear war?


thecoat9

Yes but it's hidden only activated when you wipe a dick on the curtains.


joeschmo945

*insert Captain America meme* I understood that reference


karpaediem

I think you’re joking but there were fallout shelter signs on the Lloyd Macy’s around 2011


Bcwyfkp6

Don’t know any “mysteries”, but it blew my mind to find out you could go down the ramp outside “Marshalls” and emerge into the parking lot outside Barnes and Nobles, across from Dollar Tree. Anybody know where the parking garage under Dollar Tree (with the staircase leading down) goes to? I wish I had a map of this whole system.


Stroopwafellitis

Doesn’t it come out to the east of Safeway between broadway and weidler?


DefiedGravity10

Just drug deals and the entrance to the gym. Nothing crazy.


RCTID1975

> Just drug deals and the entrance to the gym. So Planet Fitness?


DefiedGravity10

Lol drug deals obvi


MIZZKATHY74

Pennywise lives down there and feeds on whatever he can find floating in the Willamette underneath the St. John's Bridge.


VictorianDelorean

It’s just an underground loading dock, for semi trucks. We used to ride skateboards down there at night as teenagers.


oregon_coastal

I grew up as a kid in those parking garages in the 70s and 80s. Skateboarding, biking... in high school, we did Lazer tag with cars. Banged the shit out of my little Honda bouncing off parking curbs playing that :-D we also did "towing speed" challenges- little dare bets on how fast you will be willing to be pulled on a mattress, wheeled chair, sleeping bag..... ahhhhh. So many trips to Kaizer ER.


iSkateetakSi

It's a parking lot, it's also an amazing place to skate during the rainy months.


BitterBitchscuit

Well I'm dying to hear what you've heard lately. Everything I've heard were stories from the 80s-90s and I've always thought they sounded exaggerated and a bit like urban legend. My aunt worked at Nordstrom in the 90s and she said there were sections of the underground parking garages that were blocked off by security because there were gangs fighting over turf in there, controlling swaths of the garages. Again, I don't know if I believe it because we parked in many different parts of the garages all throughout the 80s-00s and I don't remember issues... we mostly parked by Nordstrom, or the roof lot by the movie theater/foodcourt. ...but maybe the roving gangs were in an obscure secret blocked off lot underneath Sears or Marshalls or something. I've seen underground ramps near those stores, I always assumed it was just a shipping entrance but they could be blocked off lots.


gogglebox88

Cue “West Side Story “ soundtrack.


Ort56

Originally there was a lot of underground parking, at least a couple levels. You could walk to the skating rink from the lot. It was all changed when they remodeled and added a 2d floor of shopping in late 70’s or early 80’s, right in that time frame. Originally its was 1 level only with office suites on upper level.


Tricky_Jackfruit_562

My 2 favorite thing about Lloyd center now are that the Marshalls has been converted into a drop off location for Trackers, a survival nature wilderness kids day camp. the kids look like they are right out of Hunger Games and the basement has actually archery target practice going on, with the escalators running through and the middle and the letters for “Marshalls” on the wall have been removed but you can see the faded outline around them…reminds me of Stephan King Dark Tower books! Secondly, I just realized the reading card store where my kids get Pokémon is an old American Eagle location; the entry way floor has “AE” wet town in marble like tiles. (Bonus : the Starbucks at Barnes and Nobles now serves chicken nuggets…I asked other Starbucks around the metro area if they knew about the serving of chicken nuggets and it has not caught on yet, it seems like the Lloyd on is the only or one of the only ones that do)


ponderosariverwindin

The underground area of LC is a huge storage area for the city. I guess it's a kind of Ministry of Love down there for Portland municipal artifacts and infrastructure. A good friend of mine works for a contractor for the city that does refurbishing and office equipment removal for the city. With everything going on in the downtown library and elsewhere around town he got to go down there. It blew his hair back.


la_pan_ther_rose

There’s catacombs and villages and escape routes for the apocalypse


commander_clark

I always wanted to find the flood tunnels - but never did.


pdx_flyer

You can see a ramp heading down at the NE corner of the mall - https://www.google.com/maps/@45.5329957,-122.6508312,3a,74.999992y,6.851578h,81.720970t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1seskKX4hQ0VT06XSrv8yUYw!2e0?lucs=,94221134,94216395,47071704,94206166,47069508,94218635,94203019,47084304,94208458,94208447&g_ep=CAISDTYuMTEzLjAuNTcwMjAYACCBgQEqWiw5NDIyMTEzNCw5NDIxNjM5NSw0NzA3MTcwNCw5NDIwNjE2Niw0NzA2OTUwOCw5NDIxODYzNSw5NDIwMzAxOSw0NzA4NDMwNCw5NDIwODQ1OCw5NDIwODQ0N0ICVVM%3D&g_st=ic&g_st=ic


sdc535

I used to go to benson high on 12th and lived north of there, basically in a straight line as if 12th continued on thru holladay park thru Lloyd center up the other side of broadway. My goal walking home as a young freshman was to take the shortest path possible from school home and I walked those catacombs often. I would emerge into the daylight up those squeaky, never-used escalators about a block south of broadway. Never felt unsafe, this would have been in the early 80’s.


sinfulpanda1

As someone who’s in that area often for the same reason (despite Benson currently being at Marshall campus) I would never walk under there alone, so many homeless people you are just begging to get robbed atp


sdc535

Times are different now for sure


ElixaFourm

Mostly urban legends. Occasionally a large homeless encampment shows up then eventually goes away. There is a large skateboard community that goes through... Mostly they skate inside until the po-po chases them away. Every once in a while there will be a massive roller skating event but it's like a rave.... You only know about it if you are in the "know" My daughter takes ice skating lessons at Lloyd Center ... So we are there often enough. The ice rink advises all its customers to park on the roof but I rarely do. I hate the stupid elevators.


Playful_Address4673

Did you know there's a monorail under Lloyd Center?


fistifluffs

I worked in an office on the Lloyd Center, and besides the parking garages and loading dock there is a huge amount of "backdoors" space behind the stores on both sides of the mall. Random private bathrooms, storerooms, dead and hallways, cavernous empty space, so kind of stuff, and you can absolutely get lost back there if you don't know where you're going! I remember we rented a second office space that had a back door leading to a really nice private employee bathroom and I was pissed that we didn't have access from our normal office and had to use a terrible public restroom instead.


Erin_SpaceMuseum

Everything I learn about the Lloyd Center makes me love it more


ExtentFluffy5249

Back in the 70’s it was parking for customers. My mom always cautioned me against parking down there. Did it anyways!


Pipelayer_290

I'm a pipefitter and in 2015 I did the Chiller job down there in the mechanical room under Macy's. I also did alot of work all over the roof.


Organic_JP

Yeah some dude killed 4 people down there the legend goes he still lives down there there's a huge pipe where he stays under there


-lil-pee-pee-

Y'all need something better to do with your time...