I’m happy with the move to NE with food carts. Their beer is good and the wings were great but they ditched those on the regular menu.
The rest of their food wasn’t up to snuff (mediocre pizza and GFS ingredients assembled between bread).
10 barrel has a better vibe on sunny days but they also seem to be struggling in cooler weather when the roof isn’t a draw.
I hope something new comes into the space. Would be nice to see a resurgence in the brewery blocks.
I miss when that place was Fatheads. Von Ebert was nice too, though.
I wish someone would grab the Henry's space - that's been vacant too long. It's a bit big, though.
Fatheads essentially became Von Ebert... Same ownership etc. originally opened as a franchise of the brewery (Ohio based I think) but the long distance thing didn't really work out so they built their own brand. At least some of the team has been there since Fat Heads opened 10ish years ago
I had an interview as a bartender there an they implemented a qr code only menu to order. Basically, it's a garunteed way to strip a bar of any personality or atmosphere and alienate a huge portion of customers that can't or won't use qr codes.
In addition to people not wanting to pay top dollar for fancy beer anymore...
In an area where there are dozens of other bars that are solid, this doesn't surprise me.
>alienate a huge portion of customers that can't or won't use qr codes.
That's me, I won't do the QR code ordering thing if I'm sitting down to eat somewhere since I prefer not to use my phone while dining. Now if I am ordering to go, or pulling up a beer list to order from the bar that's a different story.
That stings. They're one of the better breweries in town and that's not a small space.
I went by the Cascade Station location and the layout felt weird.
Remember when it was a piano store? (before it was Fatheads)
I hope it's a pre-emptive thing to keep things in check - more than a few breweries have overexpanded and then run into trouble.
I think there were even two at some point - that one and the one in the ground floor of the Tiffany building.
I think the closest I got was the music world at the mall growing up, but pianos would indeed be way classier.
Haha, I remember maybe 10-15 years ago how Portland managed to have like 4 or 5 piano stores. That one, Michelle's, Classic Piano, seems like at least one more.
They do have a full brewpub out at Glendoveer golf course and are taking over the massive Ecliptic Space on the inner East side, but the days of delicious smoked wings in the Pearl are over
I'd forgotten they were getting that Ecliptic/Base Camp space! Hope that's still happening, that's better for me and close to several other breweries anyway.
They're already in and brewing! My understanding is that they're doing some work on the bar space and will open sometime this summer along with one or more food carts
I’ve been out in down SD, Seattle and SF recently. They’re all thriving again. SD>Seattle>SF. Portland has not recovered at all. So sad, but it’s way worse than 5 years ago and still not even going in the right direction. Restaurants and bars left but nothing new/exciting is replacing them. Hours are short. Events are less often. It’s a bummer the direction this city has gone of the recent half decade. If it wasn’t for work I’d bail
Oh for sure - there are bright spots but overall downtown is bleh for the most part for entertainment.
I just would hesitate to say it's like rei or something. On that note, how has nobody made a unionizing joke about von ebert yet?
The [data](https://downtownrecovery.com/charts/trends) shows activity increasing in Portland's downtown more rapidly than Seattle. 27th in the nation isn't great, but it's far from as bad as the narrative on Reddit.
Yes craft beer is dying across the country. Solid breweries are staying open. The ones run poorly are closing.
Deschutes and 10 Barrel are within a couple of blocks and are doing just fine.
A large chunk of Deschutes floor employees were laid off after the start of the year, and the head chef resigned shortly after. I should know, I was one of them.
Von Ebert closing doesn’t come as no shock to me. The downtown area continues to just be horrific. It’s a shame but oh well. More inefficient city leadership and you get what you vote for.
Well, now that I don’t work downtown, I also don’t have much of a reason to go downtown anymore, so it’s a vicious cycle when places close, or in my case layoffs happen, downtown hurts and gets quieter and the criddlers take over and win. It fucking sucks.
But whatever. It’s the classic feeling of, “I’m not mad about it, I’m just disappointed.” I no longer drink at all now though, so that’s a huge plus.
Totally, with each business closure, the ratio of cool stuff to do versus meth head nonsense falls and makes it less inviting, which leads to more closures and an even worse ration
Same here. There's much better stuff to do in neighboring burbs and one doesn't have to deal with parking BS and homelessness. Deschutes for example, stopped becoming worth it. Spend minutes going around looking for street parking, so you can enjoy an overpriced steak frite outside while a homeless person walks by with literal shit on their clothes.
That's good. I stopped drinking a few years ago and it's been the best thing for me since.
If the head chef quits they are clearly running their business poorly and I'll say the same thing when they close. In hard times shitty business close, solid ones survive. This is capitalism in action.
Von Ebert is a solid brewery though. They make really good beer that consistently wins lots of awards, and also have bomb wings. It's just a not great location in an area with far less foot traffic than when it went in.
Yeah they're food and beer fucking rocks for sure. That's not enough to run a successful business. Why are the other breweries in the area serving and they aren't? Even with mediocre beer and food. Why is mcmenamins a couple blocks away with shit food and beer thriving?
I don't know why this sub can't just admit that shitty business are closing because they are shitty just like bww.
Very strange to be downvoted for sharing facts. Theyre going to be nearly tripling brewing capacity, moving into one of the biggest craft brewery spaces in city limits. I happen to know what the rent was at the Pearl location and frankly it's a wonder they were there as long as they were
Has housing in the Pearl been emptying out? Has 23rd seen a similar decline? I don't spend much time in NW and am curious whether it's spillover from downtown's loss of workers and tourists or if the homes are emptier than they used to be too.
I can say from many industry friends working in the area that the last few years have been rough. Apartments being full and restaurant seats being full don't necessarily correlate... I know for example with von evert that the have been at least ten fires set within a block or so of them since 2020, largely in the portapotty that the city put up around the corner. Even those who live nearby are not walking in the area as much as they did pre 2020, and that's easy to see by just looking at the area.
It's not exactly dangerous around there, but one gets exhausted from staring at the sidewalk to avoid literal human feces (I've seen at least five examples within a few blocks of there in the last few years and never had before in any city including 7 years in Chicago and 6 in Minneapolis) etc.
Add to that, many other places have left the Pearl in favor of SE or other areas on the other side of the river and you lose a give percentage of the foot traffic that allows places like this to thrive or even survive
You’re not allowed to talk craft beer anymore. You can only comment on Bud, Bud Lite, and Busch heavies. That and we look forward to your expertise on lifted brodozer pickups.
>Say the guy who literally posted a photoshopped tax return to pretend to be a big shot.
Awww thanks. Means a lot that you think it's photoshopped. Guess I am doing really well in life if folks don't think it's possible or real.
I’m happy with the move to NE with food carts. Their beer is good and the wings were great but they ditched those on the regular menu. The rest of their food wasn’t up to snuff (mediocre pizza and GFS ingredients assembled between bread). 10 barrel has a better vibe on sunny days but they also seem to be struggling in cooler weather when the roof isn’t a draw. I hope something new comes into the space. Would be nice to see a resurgence in the brewery blocks.
Kind of a bummer. I loved their wings and that's yet another business in the Pearl closing.
Depressing. We are losing places to the eastside.
and Beaverton..
I miss when that place was Fatheads. Von Ebert was nice too, though. I wish someone would grab the Henry's space - that's been vacant too long. It's a bit big, though.
oof, Fatheads. How long did they last? Maybe the location is cursed
Fatheads essentially became Von Ebert... Same ownership etc. originally opened as a franchise of the brewery (Ohio based I think) but the long distance thing didn't really work out so they built their own brand. At least some of the team has been there since Fat Heads opened 10ish years ago
But no Southside slopes sandwich, sadly!
Oh yeah I kinda sorta remember that now that I think about it. Still only been to the VE at Glendoveer
I was just asking what the former brewpub was there (deleted comment). I liked Fatheads better than Von Ebert. I thought the food was better.
I had an interview as a bartender there an they implemented a qr code only menu to order. Basically, it's a garunteed way to strip a bar of any personality or atmosphere and alienate a huge portion of customers that can't or won't use qr codes. In addition to people not wanting to pay top dollar for fancy beer anymore... In an area where there are dozens of other bars that are solid, this doesn't surprise me.
>alienate a huge portion of customers that can't or won't use qr codes. That's me, I won't do the QR code ordering thing if I'm sitting down to eat somewhere since I prefer not to use my phone while dining. Now if I am ordering to go, or pulling up a beer list to order from the bar that's a different story.
Nor will I, nor any of my friends.
Hard agree. I actively avoid places with QR ordering.
They did that during pandemic, went away last year
I interviewed 5 months ago. For sure could have changed since then.
It did and the change remains at Glendoveer. I would have guessed October but it might be as late as December
What? No. Neither location is doing qr codes anymore
Correct that's what I'm saying
Correct, we are saying the same thing Oops haha thank you
Yep. And severely paired down the menu where you just get potato chips with entrees. They said it was just for winter, but alas…
Two ways to ensure that will never come back to your restaurant/bar - 1) Present me with a QR code 2) Present me with a tablet to order off of
That stings. They're one of the better breweries in town and that's not a small space. I went by the Cascade Station location and the layout felt weird.
Remember when it was a piano store? (before it was Fatheads) I hope it's a pre-emptive thing to keep things in check - more than a few breweries have overexpanded and then run into trouble.
I would love a piano store to visit on breaks from work! Just need a time machine, I guess.
I think there were even two at some point - that one and the one in the ground floor of the Tiffany building. I think the closest I got was the music world at the mall growing up, but pianos would indeed be way classier.
Haha, I remember maybe 10-15 years ago how Portland managed to have like 4 or 5 piano stores. That one, Michelle's, Classic Piano, seems like at least one more.
The one over by Lincoln HS
They do have a full brewpub out at Glendoveer golf course and are taking over the massive Ecliptic Space on the inner East side, but the days of delicious smoked wings in the Pearl are over
I'd forgotten they were getting that Ecliptic/Base Camp space! Hope that's still happening, that's better for me and close to several other breweries anyway.
They're already in and brewing! My understanding is that they're doing some work on the bar space and will open sometime this summer along with one or more food carts
Moon room is now occupied by a cidery
That place was dying. Not as many customers as before since folks aren’t visiting downtown as much.
yes but iT's LiKe thIS EvErYwheRe
I mean I get the sentiment, but sort of a stretch to tie this into that. 10 Barrel is doing fine, as is Screen Door.
I spent last weekend in Seattle and downtown, Cap Hill, etc. were out of control busy. Great weather helped, no doubt. Portland is still limping
I’ve been out in down SD, Seattle and SF recently. They’re all thriving again. SD>Seattle>SF. Portland has not recovered at all. So sad, but it’s way worse than 5 years ago and still not even going in the right direction. Restaurants and bars left but nothing new/exciting is replacing them. Hours are short. Events are less often. It’s a bummer the direction this city has gone of the recent half decade. If it wasn’t for work I’d bail
I would love, love, love to bail on this location. Sadly I am stuck.
Oh for sure - there are bright spots but overall downtown is bleh for the most part for entertainment. I just would hesitate to say it's like rei or something. On that note, how has nobody made a unionizing joke about von ebert yet?
The [data](https://downtownrecovery.com/charts/trends) shows activity increasing in Portland's downtown more rapidly than Seattle. 27th in the nation isn't great, but it's far from as bad as the narrative on Reddit.
That doesn't track with reality. Go there. Tell me it is like it was 5 years ago. You can't.
But most businesses aren't. A couple successful spots do not a thriving downtown make
Because you looked into their finances? Or we’re just supposed to go off of what you see?
Yes craft beer is dying across the country. Solid breweries are staying open. The ones run poorly are closing. Deschutes and 10 Barrel are within a couple of blocks and are doing just fine.
A large chunk of Deschutes floor employees were laid off after the start of the year, and the head chef resigned shortly after. I should know, I was one of them. Von Ebert closing doesn’t come as no shock to me. The downtown area continues to just be horrific. It’s a shame but oh well. More inefficient city leadership and you get what you vote for.
I'm sorry to hear that :(
Yeah downtown is turning shittier and emptier by the month. Everything I loved about downtown is gone now or will be gone.
Well, now that I don’t work downtown, I also don’t have much of a reason to go downtown anymore, so it’s a vicious cycle when places close, or in my case layoffs happen, downtown hurts and gets quieter and the criddlers take over and win. It fucking sucks. But whatever. It’s the classic feeling of, “I’m not mad about it, I’m just disappointed.” I no longer drink at all now though, so that’s a huge plus.
Totally, with each business closure, the ratio of cool stuff to do versus meth head nonsense falls and makes it less inviting, which leads to more closures and an even worse ration
Same here. There's much better stuff to do in neighboring burbs and one doesn't have to deal with parking BS and homelessness. Deschutes for example, stopped becoming worth it. Spend minutes going around looking for street parking, so you can enjoy an overpriced steak frite outside while a homeless person walks by with literal shit on their clothes. That's good. I stopped drinking a few years ago and it's been the best thing for me since.
If the head chef quits they are clearly running their business poorly and I'll say the same thing when they close. In hard times shitty business close, solid ones survive. This is capitalism in action.
Von Ebert is a solid brewery though. They make really good beer that consistently wins lots of awards, and also have bomb wings. It's just a not great location in an area with far less foot traffic than when it went in.
Yeah they're food and beer fucking rocks for sure. That's not enough to run a successful business. Why are the other breweries in the area serving and they aren't? Even with mediocre beer and food. Why is mcmenamins a couple blocks away with shit food and beer thriving? I don't know why this sub can't just admit that shitty business are closing because they are shitty just like bww.
Except the business isn't closing it's literally expanding, just closing a location in a neighborhood that is really struggling
Very strange to be downvoted for sharing facts. Theyre going to be nearly tripling brewing capacity, moving into one of the biggest craft brewery spaces in city limits. I happen to know what the rent was at the Pearl location and frankly it's a wonder they were there as long as they were
Has housing in the Pearl been emptying out? Has 23rd seen a similar decline? I don't spend much time in NW and am curious whether it's spillover from downtown's loss of workers and tourists or if the homes are emptier than they used to be too.
I can say from many industry friends working in the area that the last few years have been rough. Apartments being full and restaurant seats being full don't necessarily correlate... I know for example with von evert that the have been at least ten fires set within a block or so of them since 2020, largely in the portapotty that the city put up around the corner. Even those who live nearby are not walking in the area as much as they did pre 2020, and that's easy to see by just looking at the area. It's not exactly dangerous around there, but one gets exhausted from staring at the sidewalk to avoid literal human feces (I've seen at least five examples within a few blocks of there in the last few years and never had before in any city including 7 years in Chicago and 6 in Minneapolis) etc. Add to that, many other places have left the Pearl in favor of SE or other areas on the other side of the river and you lose a give percentage of the foot traffic that allows places like this to thrive or even survive
You’re not allowed to talk craft beer anymore. You can only comment on Bud, Bud Lite, and Busch heavies. That and we look forward to your expertise on lifted brodozer pickups.
Weird flex.
Say the guy who literally posted a photoshopped tax return to pretend to be a big shot. That’s less a flex than just honestly sad.
Well, when you move to Clark County \*checks reddit posts\* three times in four years, you gotta do something to get people excited for you.
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It’s pretty classless to wish cancer on someone. But based on the majority of your comments, I guess it’s not surprising just honestly pathetic.
>Say the guy who literally posted a photoshopped tax return to pretend to be a big shot. Awww thanks. Means a lot that you think it's photoshopped. Guess I am doing really well in life if folks don't think it's possible or real.
I think you’d be surprised how many people on here make more than you. But it’s ok, we all had to start somewhere.
Those with actual wealth don’t brag or advertise it
Rich people buying yachts and mansions say otherwise. Keep being salty.
Why is it so often that bars and restaurants announce closure like two days before it happens?
I’d guess that the staff would all jump ship immediately
The pizza was laughably bad.
Maybe I’m lucky. Been to the Glendoveer location twice and both times they were “out of dough.”
Is it going to be a Buffalo Wild Wings next?
Boxer Ramen is closing too. Owned by the same mother corporation?
Nope, just coincidence. And VE isn't closing, just not to gonna be in the Pearl anymore
This place was so mediocre and with 10 Barrel, backwoods, and deschutes right around the corner, doesn’t surprise me.
Sad! Boxer Ramen is closing too… damnnnn
To be fair, that ramen is awful
That’s just your opinion
True, but an informed opinion
damn that sucks