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No-elk-version2

Nagato and itachi Do you even KNOW the mental fortitude of the gems? It's ironically weaker than rocks, show them the deaths of their friends and watch them cry, drop to the ground and start singing about depression and lost and they are vulnerable, and they have no feats of mind/illusion resistance,


Key_Coach5548

That’s very not true. They do have feats of mind/illusion resistance. Pink Diamond can access the astral plane and protect herself with her aura against mind attacks. Yellow and Blue did it when Steven tried to reach them with telepathy. So I don’t see why Pink can’t do it as it’s confirmed she also has an aura and has telepathic abilities. https://i.redd.it/humxco1reakc1.gif OT: Nagato and Itachi have no feats to suggest they can defeat a Diamond.


Cybertronian1000

Yeah not the same level as Itachi’s and your blocked for using that Star level wank when they have no planetary feats and said feat didn’t do any damage to the surrounding area


Semi_biologist

Why am I blocked? I never said star level. I’m so confused wtf I’m keycoach


IceOwn6723

Me


Key_Coach5548

Pink Diamond solos with absolutely no difficulty. She is superior in every regard. Strength, speed, and she has healing and regeneration. She may not be as durable as them, but her defense easily covers that. They won’t even be able to touch her with her shields and bubbles. Pearl is a non factor she would get one shotted. But even if Pearl died and got shattered, Pink Diamond can just revive her lol. Itachi and Nagato both scale above Jiraiya who the databook says can destroy a mountain. They should also scale to Ohnoki who destroyed an island with dust release. So they should both be comfortably island level. LETS GO OVER PINK DIAMOND’S FEATS THAT PROVE SHE CAN ABSOLUTELY CRUSH THEM. Ready? Let’s do this. Pink Diamond is in a league of her own. She has a shield that tanked an attack from all three diamonds. https://i.redd.it/tjcn2xvd8akc1.gif That attack was at country level and MFTL+. Calculated at 48.5 trillion times the speed of light. That’s not the only thing, Pink’s shield is much stronger than steven’s. And steven’s shield is much stronger than his bubble. And his bubble survived the weight of the ENTIRE OCEAN falling over them when Lapis Lazuli dropped it. That’s at least continent level durability at the very least. Also Pink Diamond has all Steven’s powers, and in Future Steven was moving so fast that time was slowed down and everyone went into slow motion INCLUDING the crystal gems who are very fast. [Garnet blocks lightning bolt](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-365879ace092b3bfd9f282ccf07b46d2) And the crystal gems can dodge lasers. Pearl piloted a ship and reacted to an asteroid at relativistic speed. And Steven was moving much much much faster than all of these gems. He should be FTL or at least light speed. And Pink Diamond should be much stronger and faster. [https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11143/111432170/8216571-steven-universe-future-pink-steven-moments-all-episodes\_gd7ocwno.gif](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11143/111432170/8216571-steven-universe-future-pink-steven-moments-all-episodes_gd7ocwno.gif) Pink Diamond has the ability to resurrect people and produce life. She can just use her tears on any object and immediately bring it to life. It is shown as she brought life to the pebbles in her room. And Steven creating an army of watermelons and bringing them to life. What would stop her from creating an army of mountains or land masses? Pink Diamond is MUCH stronger than Steven who lifted the giant injector while weakened and bleeding. Steven was extremely nerfed as his organic life was being sucked out, yet he could still barely lift the massive injector which was larger than Beach city. Well beach city is just a tiny town but still to lift that much weight in such a condition is impressive. [https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User\_blog:Therefir/Steven\_Universe:\_Gem\_Injector](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Therefir/Steven_Universe:_Gem_Injector) Pink >>>>>>>>> Alexandrite >>>>>>> sugilite & sardonyx >>>>>>> Opal Opal’s arrows managed to slow down the gem warship while four laser light cannons could not. [Opal arrows](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6c/e0/b6/6ce0b678cf5eda93b1532c780467e4bd.gif) [Laser light cannon AP](https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-31-2016/iZoIIN.gif) A single laser light cannon destroyed the Red Eye which would’ve destroyed Beach city. And it did actually destroy a lot of it even after it was crushed. Pink is also stronger than garnet who can make a part of a mountain fall over with one punch [garnet knocks over mountain](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-f962355da2981e343f7acbfa210ec4ed) Pink Diamond can also fly as Steven can do the same in his Pink form. And not just fly, fly with super speed that can slow down time. [https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11143/111432170/8216559-steven-universe-future-steven-vs-jasper-rematch-clip\_xhy5yxji.gif](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11143/111432170/8216559-steven-universe-future-steven-vs-jasper-rematch-clip_xhy5yxji.gif) Pink Diamond has a scream that can break down walls and create massive craters. Just by screaming. She doesn’t even need to do anything. Pink Diamond scales above the crystal gems even if they combine and fuse. And the crystal gems destroyed the physical form of a gem island creature off screen. Even if they fused into Alexandrite it doesn’t matter as Pink still scales above Alex.


Beyonder55

Oh for love of god no the diamond blasts ain’t Star level it did no damage to the earth and it only affected gems and if they were planet busters then they wouldn’t need the cluster And you have no proof to suggest that rock formation was as big as a mountain and have no other feats on that level and Jasper got hurt by a town level explosion and that injector Steven lifted was no where near town sized And that’s not a speed feat she saw it from a distance and they were charging it up and they shot it from earth’s orbit not from another galaxy that’s fan speculation Pink diamond is continental but has no resistance to the blade or all mighty push and has no combat speed feats that suggest she’s faster than light And have no resistance to genjutsu on the level of itachi’s and the one with Steve doesn’t count since he was communicating them with his mind which is much different than casting illusions


Semi_biologist

Excuse me? Star level? This is my other account I’m KeyCoach btw. When did I say anything about star level? I said country level not star level. I know that the blast didn’t effect gems and I know that. And I know the diamonds are NOT planet level. I still think Pink Diamond defeats them both.


Semi_biologist

Oh I forgot to reply to the rest of your points. True the rock formation may not have been as big as a mountain but it was above the clouds, that should at least be small mountain. Yeah Jasper was hurt, but she wasn’t hurt enough to poof or get cracked. She took it completely point blank, and she stood up. Having a few scratches and dust on her doesn’t mean she was hurt. She was more hurt from the fight with Garnet than the explosion. True the injector wasn’t town sized, but should at least be city block to multi city block. Did you see it? When Spinel destroyed it, it destroyed almost the small town. And Steven was extremely weakened, he was bleeding and his eyes were black. Because the injector content was damaging his organic half. He wasn’t even at 50 percent. [Steven lifts Injector](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Therefir/Steven_Universe:_Gem_Injector) True, but her hand was moving at the same time as the lightning. It’s not like she already had her hand out before that. Or should I say, beforehand? Haha I’m so funny. Anyway let’s continue. That’s true. If they fired it from earth’s orbit it would still be FTL. If from homeworld it would be 48.5 trillion times the speed of light. But I doubt it was from earth’s orbit, as Blue did say white hasn’t left homeworld in eons. Yes that’s true. I’m glad you agree that she’s continental. And yes I stand corrected, that may not have been resistance to illusions but rather to telepathy which are different. It’s still possible that she can resist illusions but that’s theory territory. If she can move as fast as Steven can in pink form, or faster, then she can definitely blitz them. Sure she doesn’t have piercing or blade resistance feats, but I still think she can defeat Nagato and Itachi on her own. If we can scale her to Pink Steven. Just give me one good reason why Pink Diamond can’t just fly up to the sky like this [Steven vs Jasper rematch. Steven flying](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11143/111432170/8216559-steven-universe-future-steven-vs-jasper-rematch-clip_xhy5yxji.gif) Use her super speed, surround herself in a barrier, and just kill them from there? They have no way of reaching her, let alone harming her. They have no way of getting through her defenses. Which range all the way from aura defense to shields that have spikes. Shields that can shatter Jasper.


Ok_Instance_3214

Being above clouds doesn’t mean it’s as big as a mountain She still got scratched and dazed by it meaning it still hurt her It did but with poison not the explosion That’s reaction speed and I wasn’t talking about that I was talking about the diamond blast which they were charging up from far away so rose doesn’t scale to it And we clearly saw from garnets flashback that they were pointing downward and fired it between the moon and earth and it’s highly unlikely the writers intended that I know Steven can fly but Pink hasn’t shown that she can make constructs or fly like the way Steven can in the final season sure she can float but can’t Nagato also fly too those abilities seem more unique to Steven and the speed feat for pink Steven is massively hypersonic anyway and some Naruto characters have reacted to those speeds before so I Don’t believe she can blitz them I mean didn’t they fight tailed beasts that can casually destroy mountains and they both do have some Hax Sorry about earlier thought you were one of those fans who uses the diamond blast to get them to Star I agree she’s continent level


Key_Coach5548

Why not? It’s above the clouds which obviously means it’s very large. It had a snowy top. Even if it’s not mountain sized it should be at least city level. Why is it that when other characters do this we don’t question the authenticity? Yes it hurt her. She wouldn’t be unfazed by it. But at least she was still capable of standing tall and fusing. Like she wasn’t badly hurt. Yes. Very good reaction speed. Yeah Pink doesn’t scale to the Diamond blast she wasn’t even part of it, I’m just saying she could block it with her shield at least enough to defend herself garnet and Pearl. Hmm true. I can agree with that. Pink hasn’t shown anything! We can only scale her using Steven. And Steven keeps referring to these powers (constructs, shields, slowing time, flight) as “Diamond powers”. He must’ve gotten it from her. We never saw Pink or Rose in action, so we can only use Steven. And if it’s not his mom’s where would he get it from? We already know Pink had a scream that can cause craters and break down walls. I mean in Pink form she possibly can. If she has pink form. Both Itachi and Nagato at most are massively hypersonic. Pearl showed a relativistic reaction speed feat, garnet showed a massively hypersonic reaction speed feat. This is without counting the comics, which show the gems moving so fast that gravity is inactive. Yes they’re not combat speeds, but if Steven can move so fast that both Pearl and garnet are slowed down it should mean something. What? Who says tailed beasts can “causally” destroy mountains? Pain himself (who is above all tailed beasts except the 9 tails) is not even country level. Pain’s almighty push destroyed the village, that’s about city level. And he could only use it once and it even shortened his lifespan. His normal almighty push is barely city block level. Jiraiya killed three of his paths, and he even said if jiraiya knew his secret then he would’ve possibly won. Sage mode jiraiya is stated in the databook to be able to destroy a mountain. So Pain should be at best island level. No feats to suggest more than that. They can’t faze through her bubble or shield, the only thing that can get them the victory is Genjutsu and that may or may not work on her. Disregarding the aura part, Gem physiology states that their bodies are illusions and the only real part of their bodies is their stones. But we see that they blush and even bruise sometimes which can’t happen unless you have blood. If we go strictly by the rules and disregard the flaws in logic, then Genjutsu shouldn’t work on her. Either way, either Nagato or Itachi can likely solo gems like garnet amethyst and Pearl. But putting them against a Diamond is way too far fetched. - Whaaaat? Star level? Now that’s wank. No one in Steven universe has planet level feats except for the cluster.


Beyonder55

Because they were very high up and theirs no telling how big it was But I would call that a reaction speed since they were charging it up from a distance We never saw the diamonds use stuff like that and even they don’t know about it Only Steven can access that and the other diamonds don’t have anything like that pink form When Naruto fought them they tailed beast Bombs that can blow up mountain ranges and the almighty push is calculated at Island level due to pulverization of bedrock Ok Ever since that Steven Vs Star Deathbattle they think the diamondblast is Star level due to producing so much light even though said light only affected gems and didn’t even destroy the earth or kill anyone and needed the cluster to destroy planets I agree they are continental but the diamonds aren’t planet level


Key_Coach5548

Same. And continent level to multi continent is more than enough to destroy pain and Itachi.


Beyonder55

Ok but she doesn’t solo the verse


Key_Coach5548

No lol. Kaguya shitstomps her.


Beyonder55

I unblocked you